tv The 77 Percent Deutsche Welle October 28, 2023 7:30pm-8:00pm CEST
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to shannon with c, w plus or emphasizing the award winning offer is available worldwide. every language level learning jasmine has never been since hello and welcome to the special edition of the 77 percent. i'm your host proceeding with the with a k thing this year with to a straight to pay it. so we did into kind of call and say in northern kenya, that is a region that has been severely impacted by climate change. it hasn't rained it so more than 2 years now and have a listen to what the people have to kind of who depend on land for their survival and livelihood towards my pony. it is commodity this week
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on the 77 percent street debate. by the end of the week. i mean the, if we die from hunger and it with nowadays, where will the government get the support? but they usually get from us as it relates to we dropped as obviously a front and center issue here. and you can see that he is already having real consequences. this is a very big to get to the bus to at least competitive we, we almost defeats the conversations around global climate issues on the climate change is not tough. a few minutes conversation is really something that needs community to sit together, create localized solutions to their own problems. hello and welcome back to the 77 percent in his 1st no grow international address can as president william brutal vote, the club may change would be central to this government. well,
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we're here into cannot the most of can you have to find out what challenges lay ahead of him for this problem is, and i have some lovely people here to try and explain what exactly is happening in this region. i'd like to start to see if she's in a good know, make engineer, but just to give us an overview of the claimant profile of this area, what is the nature of the, of the weather patterns and how has that changed over time? so this is a code to which is an additive to me, an area, and the communities of life, which is highly affected by the climate change. because when we have the change in with the buttons, that means that we look visitation cover for them like stroke. we also have challenges with water because for crop production we rely alerts on the hose that useful eat addition. and when we have a extreme with the conditions, that means that the water levels also go down. well, thank you so much for that summer. yeah, and i want to come now to mama here who lives in this area. she's a native to kind of woman,
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and i just want to find out for muma. what have you seen changing over the years when way you planting? when was it raining and how has that changed since the one you can? me and i hope all is the a. yep. i mean we've been having a serious drought that has killed a live stock. but the people are hungry, especially women and children. and they're only living by the grace of god. you guys go, i'm very, you know, look like you can. can she remember a time when there was no drought when it was absolutely ok, the rings were predictable. there was still able to form a little bit around what are the amalgam is allowed to go now and i'm in our group that on the now the la sometime back, but it rained once in a while. we even practice agriculture. i p growing some slow going out using rain water, not the but the last 6 years. we've not been receiving enough rain. got very good. so i'll farms have dried up to what and now the pool and left was nothing in the
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about any email, probably. so dropped is obviously a front on center issue here and you can see that he is already having real consequences. this, by the way, being the 5th consecutive failed rainy season. the this region of the great honda of africa is experiencing. so come and i want to come to you because you're the ranking member from the minister of environment in this region. how bad is the situation statistically talking about if it goes how many people are sleeping hungry going without water? because of what we're discussing here, clement tension squealing took into account. since 1969, the temperature in took on account of increased by 2 degrees. this is a purely bust to at least county 70 percent of the people in this county depends on livestock production and then the remaining 15 to 20 percent of fish. i'm intrigued us under the parties like you've got to see is done. why the up to now?
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we've got experience engineering. so these a lot to kind of info, and i'll tell you to kind of county as compared to 15 years ago. so kimberly, let me come to you because you a radio steam this region. are you hearing the impact of what's, you know, what we're talking about food and security, lack of a range, even flooding in some cases. how is that affecting the social structure of the area? we have visited some areas and actually i've seen the impact just like 50. let me just from here, like 3 weeks ago we went and met people, a group of people group of 50 age people who will age because he's overcome me. yeah. yeah. and it really affected them because now they ended up with issues of the area for me to an old. i tend to in you, you, you, you wonder why you people 18 these kind of food. and then they'll tell you that these little foods we look right to look left and we cannot find anything to do
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that. i'm just trying to figure out, you know, looking around it might be difficult for somebody to imagine how do you survive in this environment on why stay in this environment if it's so harsh, i think, uh, we, i was post stories came here and we saw. yeah. and that's the, the way of living for our side of so we can move from maybe here too late or to k. no, because the does pick defines that good deal. so you're talking about conflict because of grazing. yeah. can you expound on that, please? yeah, the conflict between the community into kind of so that aspect of in security things of uh, of food and security. because if there's no food they insecure to kimmy. so because it then there's no pasta, there's no water. so they must go and take it from there. okay, so you brought up something really important, which is one of the impacts of climate change being conflict. but i want to come to
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you dominic because there's another phenomenon which is a climate migration. and i know parts of your family have been forced to move from one of these areas into another one and such of literally green a pastor or at the moment. or other thing about the best of at least moving from kenya, causing the border to get into a place called at the insights for busta. and this is what is causing the conflicts we're hearing about. yeah, exactly, this is what is causing the conflict. because when you go there, of course you'll find people. so when the, when the, when, when did the community do it's going to community now that is moving, that is moving to, to that place, insights for busta. it creates a situation that whereby they, they want to where are the ones, whatever the animal is, the one plus to away the same community. also ones the same. so i mean, it creates, it's good, some conflict. okay, vicki, let me come to you. we've been quite on the side for a little bit of the, the women and how they're affected. because yesterday, as we were walking around in this homestead behind, we had that the men will knocked around because they've gone to look for pastor
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elsewhere. and so the women have been left by themselves. what is that doing to the women of this community such stream uh, community has been processed since time immemorial. and one thing that uh, this uh, issue of climate change and the frequent migration in such a pasta in order has really contributed to uh, pulling up most mortgages. and also i've sent to them of buttons in their children, sleep on june the hotel to fix the most of the development of children. as they left the kitchen or bedroom, you find most of the possible bustle group that is now the indigenous women don't even get to go to school because we believe that in our community it is the father, the discipline, to the baby. so it's really when it's about 4 months of lack of development, community development, because if we look a adequate to them going to school and we don't get the father, the good the you know, houses because the men can go up to 3 months. they can go up to 6 months cuz he's
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gonna take him even particularly with us to be the next one. you're talking about very important issues here, including how dry it is and the difficulty to get food and water. and i want to ask why my like today, if you wanted to get to watch a, where do you go and find it? how far is it? and what do you do on a daily basis to sustain yourself to feed yourself and your family when it was done in college, one of the, you know, by the america, when we get water from far away, women as well as the this fluid has no more ton of the drinking water from the pool, about 10 kilometers away from here. and once we fetch the water, we go looking for wild foods in the bush along the truck or river. i'd be good. at the moment, we're only eating food from a local palm tree, that'd be cool angle at the only. and i'm wondering if we have to make choose from it and mix it with mayflower. does it mean? well, and that could be rather than we did. that's how we survive at the diet. we used to
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have other foods, but they dried up and i'm no longer there. anybody you put to the company that bought on at the down the telephone. although not though we do it up, you know. meanwhile, i'm up on top of that would be one reason. finally, we're coming to hear your voice. we're hearing some very dark things on the other side. but these for the security to mon nutrition and maybe under nutrition, possibly young girl is getting married off early because the basics you don't have any other choices. so i guess my question is, where do we even begin to resolve this? where and you're busy saying, but perhaps looking at contemporary solutions like i tease the way forward, but can we even do that yet? uh, good question. i think the bid to the climate change has not done any good to our local communities. they've been to the climate change. sometimes i say it's a professionally bit that's on least have the needs of
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a few clink of people who aims to gain and profit from this kind of a bit. because if this debate was meaningful, then this debate would it be translated into the local people's lives? because he is way or is that's about to bidding all of these, then what we left, we were on the left with innovations. how do we ensure that we create, you know, verify ideas that we have to get them to benefit the young people of the present generation. because the young people of the present generation of the 100 percent population of multi generation. and so if we don't do something to the present generation, then there's nothing we have talking about the presto, and you see me is getting into like a, we shall not be speaking over you and then explain to us if special investment change, he's made a very important point present that local ended in those communities. i left out of some of these benefits. i left out of conversations regarding them. do you think this is through and how do we remedy that? i work in the pots most the quote,
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the for them. and one of the challenges that to key or the evidence is the fact that even when we come up with solutions, then the community center. so you come up to a place and then you're like, okay, this, this place may be, they needs that they need food and then you're like, okay, well we, we to establish problems, but you're not keen or not what start to just get new use in the distributions come from the community, so communities have to be involved right from the start. so i want to ask about because i, yeah, there was a charge me that we're not asking being didn't as people what they really want. so i need to ask you, if you what the president of this country, what do you think you would give the people of to kind of, to try and solve this problem of climate change that i am on. but i don't have any, i know you around the heart of any yeah, i really the navigating for. so if i was the president and i had the resources,
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i would help the people because leaders are elected to help this village and the entire country needs help in terms of what to food and other things. so that's why we elect leaders. i could be, i could, we can not be even yeah, you cut them on a couple of nice and then when you get a, a young american with the one i want to ask the people who was sitting at the back then maybe you can help me i can they remember the last time a locally that came a suck with them about climate change is because remember, just resent hands for the mob. no, no. oh they, she actually looks disgusted, i guess because of the state of leadership. so coming to have to come back to this, so many policies, these even a beautiful climate change act and this county. and yet people are still feeling disconnected from the leadership. how is that possible? you shouldn't need to have frameworks in place. so we need to have structures which would include up to communicate with the public to the masses,
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or am i to screw the clements introducing the official not even loading. and that's why i was the local government to go to go to the took on the we, so we saw. so we don't do those very necessary for us to come up with the policies act on even clements in front of commercial. the counting government came up with this most and formed even the communities this community, the world clements is going to give me a shout on this low a past and nothing left to, you know, up to about november we saw 5 from the budget committees. we have kind of lead training the committee so that they understand because one of them under it is to subsidize the community 12 meetings at the local level. and i'm sure they told me to come and meet these community in the future. so let me ask present and then i'm going to come to you because he was speaking, you will actually laughing as to what he was saying was fiction. well why, why is that? no, no, i was sad because i am one person was also participated in one of the climate change initiatives by the come to government. the truth of the month is
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a lot of investment is being invested into the climate change initiatives, especially by the ministry of environment of this cody. and some of us have been privileged to be part of that conversation. the question which we shouldn't be asking ourselves will add the right people to really participate in such kind of conversations. as you see those open speak english and be invited, it'll be cortez to discuss clement issues. or is it the read people down on the ground, or should be the majority of the participant in such conversations? and as i left before, even this issue, it's not just about the contra government is about the or approach how the climate change conversations is happening. this note that the national, the national level of the international level, and this is, vicky mentioned at the beginning to kind of county is really vast, is really big that not enough resources to reach everybody. so the truth of the
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month is yes. all of our stations are happening, but also the said reality is we are not reaching everybody, but something is happening. so let me ask the question, because of young people, isn't that our responsibility to be that bridge between the older generation and maybe the ones when not speaking, the language is with speaking boardrooms and you know, being that go between wise and that happening. what do you have, i don't know, making sure that the information they get from that uh the, the many things that the line from schools to hold a bit about the climate change as opposed to do decibels, to put it in the local context unexplained to, to the people, but you see the young people, we have a vision, so we have questions that we use to locate. we used to do a lot of things. we also need to stop what we need support in terms of logistics in terms of transportation, in terms of the capacity to come and talk to the people. let me come back to kimberly then, because you did bring up the media when you're discussing these issues. it's probably in the local dialect. are we speaking boardroom language to people who
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should, who already know the issues in a different time in knowledge. okay, that's one big challenge. most of the time, we try and get uh, expertise. uh to be somebody who knows. and who can translate it? i know way that they come on 19 to kinda understand so because no, we live late getting sent to the mixed. we have locals from other counties. so we make swahili and the, the local that like so that to at least everyone can kind of get to understand what we're trying to see. maybe just adding something, it's important to know that even the impact of climate change in itself, he does community participation. take on example of what mama was saying. she has to wake up at 6. she has to face what she has to go look for for the conversations around global climate issues. and the climate change is not tough. a few minutes conversation is what it is, something that needs community to see together. take the time,
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create localized solutions to their own problems. that is the time you're talking about and that is the most important time, especially for presto list. i post only somebody to us to look at the 50 kilometer i was looking for what looking for bus doesn't take me so limited of what this community is to stop even engaging and such kind of conversation. so what is actually working? can you give me examples of adaptation invitation things that are being done, which are actually working we are not the cause of this climate change. the global know about the course. we have self funding of hopefully con countries on specifically and took into account you've experienced the clement sense for us to adapting these clement to conditions while i'm out on the petition onto the city is and that's why the county budgets almost 8 percent of the country budget is i look at it was clemence, a definition. how to come to government is doing what up would you like for example,
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we've dreamed of 1100 boards just to christmas williams to ensure that people are getting water wave domain things clements most likely cut. so we can program so and improve improvement of beats so that we cannot claim it was still incomplete and took on the county and so many of the individual and budgeting. okay, so let's see how we've had what government is doing. but when you look at countries like egypt and as well, you get the sense that we could be doing so much more. a good cause for production, especially in the northern part of the country. you request a lot of investment talking of because we have over 1000 for who's estimated to had mentioned both those really big partners both in those 2 by the code to government dealing a boy who is a huge, huge investment because you have to do you have to be quick entity. so said that so many of these bull who's cut into the do not have as much as a cut into these a lot. we are doing both as puts us in the code to government. our efforts to
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actually diminished because like what, what can we do right now other than how they might just say responses. we're hearing a lot about money and investment and rightfully so, where do we go from here? if the international community does not contribute and we don't have enough money, where do we go next? yeah, that's they, they decided part of this conversation that this economy politics. i'm the, the re, re entities or the account. are the major going to be with us of the problems we are facing today? unfortunately, either one speed holding that light, just a way of money and resources that we need. and so it's a balance between lifting this money go according to what we believe and what we gain so much into. so there's no holding this board invest ations that allowed funding issues around climate change ones because people are afraid to move that traditional source of power of money in a g on all these things. but again, coming look on this. so many conflicting interests that needs to be met,
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that the governments have grappling with that account. the government is coupling with flip sampling. now what do you do us a call into government for example, for our co intellectual crime or do you go for me to get to commissions or do you go for long lasting solutions that we just have to model? so these are the issues that people are in the company with. i'm that difficult to address the test moment. i know who you're interested in a 2 and a half a year, but i know who didn't attend the best of both, at least one, even filling some construction with the but the short of it must be the 1st week of the war. we have been boats of all who live for selling the enemy in the family. the only condition in increasing intervals, often number to be able to, that's meant to assess the soldiers and allow them to come in to the cost of transforming adults with a steel to idaho literate. as many of their abilities, we've kept plenty of their leaders. it's well the shovel go home fighting in the
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college, they will be hard and complicated when we already have them. all right, well it, it will, it finds that only to protect our homeland friend by a bush shockley with a lot of you. they do charge me the little side. i look of something. let me look out. can you look him some all directions including underground will and we will win and we will prevail on the whole ship. sheila, how are you? i'm of it. this is the world sort of line against darkness or life against the nape . um we're setting united, it's more than ever. so we've been, you know, you invite show. so you know, by just for the right to fight which protect ourselves. we should put on. i need to put in this loan file in your behalf. what is the price for the bed for the lives of the safety of our soldiers, your bill? so new to the tom bas kit, to the issue. uh well that did it. it's a whole and you all have you love him, we will fight together then up there and we will win together.
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this was these really prime minister and now the defense semester you, i've got and just taking his tough place and to quote him as well. say so i highlights on sort of home in coyote sazia buy um they buy up a shot because they're the citizens and our soldiers spread all over our borders in the see if now in air and on the ground. are we supposed to support all? then of course members, the image of the rich families. if you have to you, they have the model of a club. my most, most of all the whole name was lost, their loved ones in the recent weeks. and of course, the weeks the families of the hostages in any wholesale value and the guy hard sheep, gosh, yeah, that'd be by the score. if you sure what the deal can be your, in my hearts, in my mind every moment. and then every decision we make regarding the operation,
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we will not forget you when about taking our steps out further. she life, excuse me, carlo is because those are really the my bill to a 1000. and the last 24 hours. we've changed phases, quoted most chicago from us, not even mazda of us. go the heavy bombardment. it's unprecedented. it's nothing that from us ever since before, most other devonte will forgive them all fell from us. life, as all idea of soldiers are operating, we talk loud and hitting how much targets view underground and on the ground on the area from most and a full from seaford model most construct mailed should only have the most done. you see from us getting ok. never before the middle of the look, see the mouth avila is in the family has met today with some of the soldiers look the med smart, the air force market on the ground. the cool, cool, working together then with intelligence available to us,
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to give back up to our soldiers, to allow them to maneuver a new wherever they need to go in god, no results must go out. mailed shut off of this is born. it's called marshal. see my cohort. it allows them all of precision is liam 1 o'clock and the very strong power in there. actually, let's all have complete professional confidence level. i mean, you know, soldiers and officers will shut, buckled down the shop and the heads of fishing beds on the show. and the massage you all called molly said that'd be the whole together, the whole security apparatus of israel and the book there is going to work on the she my little know how me but in order to deter my gum, austin, which is your limits on i'm sure together we will make it to the victory gum bite, those all. it's all over the whole. exult a lots of thoughts. i'm just cause the at the same time we are the see if it's i mean and spread over including the northern border for the think mosquito acrylic
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a thought make a whole lot of these really air force. there's a lot of cork, in full capacities. if it, i'll say that they have more capacity for other missions, they are required so much somebody to come to a new make. i mean gum mama to crush will be muff as amc color. oh, if i is lucky, in addition to your net for it, we have also visited the supporting the civilians be hi, allow me laurie. and the fact which i did that, barbara society, those the silver service, the value most, and their families in the ship when we bought them, of course, was skim bundle. so many families evicted from their houses along the borders in the north and the south. and this is a main goal for us as well. but come, i'm the name on the self up with the few words about the hostages, including mama may not last. she's the hub to feed level because the law is alton. we're taking any efforts needed to bring them home. it's you should have done above. it's an extremely complex situation we have never encountered before.
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any blush, we are determined to do whatever it takes me see mummies need, let me see. miles by the cross you boot and you'll know the sales it is not a minor mission of a home visit that the prime test for us that the me the that's funny but we have to keep in mind we're dealing with a motorist organization, so i'm not gonna switch those kids to she build purpose, legal heart. it's not the, it's all this money in it and live stream and the atrocities. but to me, to the families of the robot cups, the people and i'll do my best not have any illusions. they are not looking for humanitarian solutions. it's not hard for me to come up or they have bottom line upon themselves. so you have a pressure of the water. well, not much control over those because he avoided the effort to bring back the cost, which is the main effort level. it's like some very important one for shipping. well, it's much irish vicki, of course, in the case of discussion, cashier stuff, i'm us. call the harder we hit a mazda, hot or sure, and what's on the ground is boiler scheme. the idea,
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the better chances are to get on know how much to increase the solutions and we'll bring back the hospitalized fully up to you in the oven. so we can see our beloved ones and families because we are needing this little thing for me to come up. so before we end, this is not going to be a shortage. so there's a provision that has a long war limitation for smoking, their fish, and a lot of the favoring. yeah. and how go as leadership, as people, as a nation, go what, that'd be the whole and of course the secuity forces. let me, if i'm out of, by the time at the end, but at all we are fighting for our i don't live here. this is our house, this is me the or then will be the most that meet the whole lot of committed. so i like to leave the security system all the way to the victory over how much that is really defense minister, are you off, gallant to now the war cabinet minister, former idea of chief of staff, any constance taking his place. her blue eyes slightly helps us,
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so the lean brookdale, caesar society has enjoyed its biggest catastrophe. really. i mean the, which leads us to understand your and 5 together. beneficial about how you are doing it to determine nation but then responsibility might use. so in order to change their reality alongside in board and completely, it's um, doing, keeping in mind and the poor commitment to this and never again, don't show a video before the 100 thoughts. yes, the north, a missile. we are determined to work on all fronts, to send a message to her enemies wherever they are. it's called us when by the even shooting team does uh, by the name of dish, call mama. we're doing every effort needed to bring back the hostages, and it will actually be every 2 members needed can hook up i'm all, i have got great besides how about i'm assuming that most of the ground operation
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and we've got more like a demo done. got along other um channels can help us bring them down. we'll show them shut off. so it will be to hold all of us together. the prime minister of defense minister unit, i'm the war cabinet. fix tend to come in at 2, hooked up because maybe leadership go the shop about how you tied these are. we all understand that the gravity of the moment, the historic moment we are facing. now the issue with that is, you're also feeling the pain, which is lice, and the expectations of the people of israel girlfriend, you shoot me, gosh, games for what the swing by the mean. but i have met with families on and i want to get ahold of you and i'm available for them and whatever i can in, in the issue. i mean, quickbook does she, i sure will, but not want him to go down and i promise there's nothing. we will stop that in order to bring them home. she will then have a good.
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