in 16 minutes on the details of the world in progress of pop calls to everyone who wants to know more about this topic, that concerned about this story is beyond the headline world in progress. the w cuts cost hello and welcome to the special edition of the 77 percent. i'm your host, christine, where do i the what dated k thing, let's show it to a straight to pay it. so we did into kind of call and say in northern kenya, that is a region that has been severely impacted by climate change. it hasn't rained it so more than 2 years now and have a listen to what the people still kind of who depend on land for their survival and

livelihood poles. my funny, it is carolina this week on the 77 percent street debate. by the end of the week, i will use the if we dive from hunger with nowadays, where will the government get the support? but they usually get from us. i believe you will need a drought is obviously a front and center issue here and you can see that he is already having real consequences. this is a very big to get to the bus to at least competitive we, we almost hit the conversations around global climate issues and the climate change is not tough. a few minutes conversation is really something that needs community to sit together, create localized solutions to their own problems. hello, and welcome back to the 77 percent. each is 1st, you know,

grow international address can as president william, brutal about the climate change would be central to this government. well, we're here into kinda in the north of kenya to find out what challenges lay ahead of him for this problem is, and i have some lovely people here to try and explain what exactly is happening in this region. i'd like to start to see a, his, an, a good nomic engineer, but just to give us an overview of the claimant profile of this area, what is the nature of the, of the weather patterns and how has that changed over time? so this is a code to which is an added did send me an area and the communities were of labor which is highly affected by the climate change. because when we have the change in with the buttons, that means that we look visitation cover for them like stroke. we also have challenges with water because for crow production we really like a lot or now was that useful? eat addition. and when we have a extreme with the conditions, that means that the alternative was also good. don't. well, thank you so much for that summary. and i want to come now to

a moment here who lives in this area. she's a native to kind of woman and i just want to find out from you mama, what have you seen changing over the years when where you planting? when was it raining and how has that changed since i'm on the one you can me another because the a. yep. i mean we've been having a serious drought that has killed a live stuck with the people on the hungry, especially women and children. and they're only living by the grace of god. you guys go, i'm very, you know, look like you can. can she remember a time when there was no drought when it was absolutely okay. the rains were predictable. there was still able to form a little bit around what are the amalgam is what i would do. but now that i'm in our group that on the now the la sometime back, but it rained once in a while. we even practice agriculture. i keep growing some smoke about using rain water, but the last 6 years we've not been receiving enough rain. got very good. so i'll

farms have dried up to what and now the pool and left was nothing in the in the email probably. so dropped is obviously a front and center issue here and you can see that he is already having real consequences. this, by the way, being the 5th consecutive failed rainy season. the this region of the great honda of africa is experiencing. so come and someone to come to you because you're the ranking member from the minister of environment in this region. how bad is the situation statistically talking about if it goes, how many people are sleeping hungry going without water? because of what we're discussing here clement's interest really took into account since 1969 the temperature in took on account of increased by 2 degrees news. a few of the possibilities. county 70 percent of the people in this county depends on livestock production. and then the remaining 15 to 20 percent of fish. i'm intrigued us under the bug just like you've got to see is done. why do

you up to now? we've got experience innovation. so these a lot to clean the info and i'll tell you to kinda come to you as compared to 15 years ago. so kimberly, let me come to you because you a radio host team this region. are you hearing the impact of what's, you know, what we're talking about food and security, lack of a rains, even flooding in some cases. how is that affecting the social structure of the area? we have visited some areas and actually i've seen the impact just like 50 kilometers from here. like 3 weeks ago we went and made people a group of people, a group of 50 age people who will age because he's overcome me. yeah. yeah. and it really affected them because now they ended up with issues of the area for me to an old. i tend to in you, you, you, you wonder why you people 18 these kind of food. and then they'll tell you that

these little foods we look right to look left and we cannot find anything to do that. i'm just trying to figure out, you know, looking around it might be difficult for somebody to imagine how do surviving this environment and why stay in this environment. if it's so harsh, i think, uh, we are supposed to raise game here and we saw. yeah. and that is a way of living for our side of so we can move from maybe here too late or to k. no, because the does pick defines that could do it. so you're talking about conflict because of grazing. yeah. can you expand on that please? yeah. the coughing between the, the videos community into kind of so that aspect of in security things of, uh, a folding security because if there's no food, this is a good campaign. so because of that, there's no pasta. there's no water so they mustn't go and take it from there. okay,

so you brought up something really important, which is one of the impacts of climate change being conflict. but i want to come to your dominique because there's another phenomenon which is a climate migration. and i know parts of your family have been forced to move from one of these areas into another one in such of literally greener pastures. at the moment we are talking about the bus or at least moving from kenya of closing the border to ground up. let's go look over the insightful pasta. and this is what is causing the conflict we are hearing about. yeah, exactly. this is what is causing the conflict, because when you go there, of course you'll find people. so when the, when the, when, when is the community that's going to community now that is moving, that is moving to, to that place inside for busta. it creates a situation that whereby they, they want to where the $1.00 to $1.00 of the animals, the one plus to away the same community also ones the same. so i mean, it creates a, it's got some conflict. ok, vicki? let me come to you. we've been quite on the side for a little bit of the, the women and how they're affected. because yesterday, as we were walking around in this homestead behind,

we had that the men when knocked around because they've gone to look for pastor elsewhere. and so the women have been left by themselves. what is that doing to the women of this community? such stream uh, community has been pluses, since time immemorial. and one thing that uh, this issue of climate change on the frequent migration in such a pasta in water has really contributed to, uh, uh, pulling up most marriages. and also i've sent to them of buttons in their children, sleep on june the hotel to fix the most one of the development of children, as well as the additional bundrum. you find most of the possible bustle grew. that is no, the indigenous women don't even get to go to school because we believe that in our community it is the father that disciplines the baby. so it's really a ring. so both so much i a lack of development community development because uh if we uh, adequate to them going to school and we don't get the further the good the,

you know, houses because the men can go up to 3 months that can go up to 6 months because it's gonna take you even particular with us to me. the next board you're talking about very important issues here, including how dry it isn't that difficult to to get food and water. and i want to ask why my like today, if you wanted to get to what, uh, where do you go and find it? how far is it? and what do you do on a daily basis to sustain yourself to feed yourself and your family when it was done in college, one of the, you know, wasn't my god when we get water from far away, women as low as the this fluid has no more ton of who the drinking water from the pool, about 10 kilometers away from here. and once we fetch the water, we go looking for wild foods in the bush along the truck while river. well i'd be good. at the moment, we're only eating food from a local palm tree, that'd be cool angle at the only and letting a b as we make choose from it and mix it with mayflower. well,

and that could be wherever than we did. that's how we survived the diet. we used to have other fruits, but they dried up and i'm no longer there. i think the you, you put to the company that bought on at the down the telephone. although not though, we do it up, you know, meanwhile i'm up on top of that would be one reason. finally, we're coming to hear your voice. we're hearing some very dark things on the other side. but these, for the security to mon nutrition that may be under nutrition, possibly young girl is getting married off early because the basics you don't have any other choices. so i guess my question is, where do we even begin to resolve this? where and you are busy saying, but perhaps looking at contemporary solutions like i tease a way for but can we even do that yet? it's a good question. i think the debate to the climate change has not done any good to our local communities. they debates on climate change, sometimes i say it's

a professionally bit that's on least have the needs of a few clink of people or, or ames to gain and profit from these kinds of a bit. because if this debate was meaningful, then this debate would it be translated into the local people's lives? because he is way or is that's what you're getting all these then what we left, we were on the left with innovations. how do we ensure that we create, you know, verify, diaz, that will get the benefit of the young people of the present generation. because the young people of the present generation of the 100 percent population of multi generation. and so if we don't do something to the present generation, then there's nothing we have talking about the presto, and you see me is getting into like a, we shall not be speaking over you and then explain to us if special investment change, he's made a very important point present that's local and indigenous communities. i left out of some of these benefits. i left out of conversations regarding them. do you think

this is true and how do we remedy that? i work in the pots most the quote, the for them. and one of the challenges that to key or that to evidence is the fact that even when we come up with solutions, then the community center. so you come up to a place and then you're like, ok this, this place may be, they needs that they need food and then you're like, okay, well we will establish problems, but you're not keen or not what start to just can you use in the distributions come from the community, so communities have to be involved right from dispatch. so i want to ask him about because i, yeah, there was a charge me that we're not asking vantage enough people what they really want. so i need to ask you, if you were the president of this country, what do you think you would give the people of to kind of to try and solve this problem of climate change that i am on. but i don't have any, i know you down the heart of many yeah, i met a navigating for. so if i was the president and i had the resources,

i would help the people because leaders are elected to help this village and the entire country needs help in terms of water, food, and other things to come up with that, that's why we elect leaders. i could be, i'll come on saturday even. yeah. you cut them on a couple of nice and then when you get a, a young american with the one i want to ask the people who was sitting at the back then maybe you can help me. i can they remember the last time a locally that came a suck with them about climate change is because remember, just resent hands who put up. no, no, no, no. oh they, she actually looks disgusted, i guess because of the state of leadership. so coming to have to come back to this, so many policies, these even the beautiful climate change act and this county. and yet people are still feeling disconnected from the leadership. how is that possible? and you said we didn't of what's in place,

so we need to have structures which would include up to communicate to the public, to the masses. or let us do the climate centrally. sealants ended up dish will not even loading. and that's why as a local government to go to go into the took on the we, so we saw that we don't, it was very necessary for us to come up with the policies act and even clements in to find a glitch on the account. and government came up with this most and formed event the committees this committee, the award clements is going to give each of the, this low a post inductor left to, you know, up until the november police sofa formed a bunch of communities. we have kind of lead training the committee so that they understand because one of them, and that is to sensitize the community 12 meetings at the local level, and i'm sure they told me to come and meet these community in the future. so let me ask a present and then i'm going to come to you because he was speaking, you will actually laughing as of what he was saying was fiction. well, why, why is that? no, no, i was sad because i am one person was also participated in one of the climate

change initiatives by the come to government. the truth of the matter is a lot of investment is being invested into the climate change initiatives, especially by the ministry of environment of this cody. and some of us have been privileged to be part of that conversation. the question which we shouldn't be asking ourselves. well, the right people to really participate in such kind of conversations as you see those or can speak english and to be invited. it'll be cortez to discuss clement issues. or is it the read people down on the ground or should be the majority of the participants in such conversations? and as i said before, even this issue is not just the contra government is about the or approach how the climate change conversations is happening. this note that the national, the national level and the international level. and this is vicky mentioned at the beginning to kind of county is really last is

a really big that not enough resources to reach everybody. so the truth of the month, the easiest conversation was happening, but also the sudden reality is we are not reaching everybody, but something is happening. so let me ask the question, because of the young people, isn't that our responsibility to be that bridge between the older generation that may be the ones were not speaking the language as we're speaking boardrooms and you know, being that go between wise and that happening. what do you have, i don't know, making sure that the information to get from that uh the, the many things that the line from schools to hold a bit about the climate change are supposed to be that's supposed to put it in the local context unexplained to to the people, but you'll see the young people, we have a vision, so we have questions that we use to locate. we used to do a lot of things. we also need to stop what we need to support in terms of logistics in terms of transportation, in terms of the capacity to come and talk to the people. let me come back to kimberly then, because you did bring up the media when you're discussing these issues,

it's probably in the local dialect. are we speaking boardroom language to people who should, who already know the issues in a different time in knowledge. ok, 8. that's one big challenge. most of the time we try and get uh, expertise, uh to be somebody who knows and who can translate it. i know way that they come on 19 to kinda understand so because no, we live late getting sent to the mixed. we have locals from other counties, so we mix swahili and the, the local that like so that to at least everyone can kind of get to understand what we're trying to see. maybe just adding something, it's important to know that even the impact of climate change in itself, he does community participation. take on example of what my my was saying. she has to wake up at 6. she has to face what she has to, but look for for the conversations around global climate issues. and the climate

change is not top a few minutes conversation is what it is, something that needs community to see together. take the time, create localized solutions to their own problems. that is the time you're talking about. and that is the most important time, especially for a pass to list a pesto need some good. let's talk about the 50 kilometer i was looking for what looking for bus doesn't take me. so limited to for this community is just not even engaging on such kind of conversation. so what is actually working? can you give me examples of adaptation and mutation? things that are being done, which actually working we are not the cause of this climate change. the global know about the course, we have self funding of hopefully con countries on specifically and took into account. we've experienced the clement sense for us to adopting these clement to conditions on the mode on the petition to the slaves. and that's why the county budget, almost 8 percent of going to budget is that'll kit it was clements. in addition,

how the cost of government is doing what type of addict, for example, we've dreamed of $1100.00 boards. just a courtesy is to ensure that people are getting water waived the main things clements most likely cut. so we are in the program so and improve improvement of beats so that we cannot clement traditional integrates interconnect, county. and so many of the visual and, but you gotta be okay, so let's see how we've had what government is doing. but when you look at countries like egypt and as well, you get the sense that we could be doing so much more. a good cause for production, especially in the northern part of the country. you request a lot of investment talking of because we have over 1000 for who's estimated to had mentioned both those really putting us both in those do by the code to government dealing a boy who is a huge, huge investment because you have to do you have to be quick entity. so said that so many of this boy who's cut into the do not have to as much as a cut into these

a lot we are doing. but as puts us in the code to government, our efforts to actually diminished because like, what more can we do right now other than having my dis, series parties, we're hearing a lot about money and investment and rightfully so. where do we go from here? if the international community does not contribute and we don't have enough money, where do we go next? yeah, that's they, they decided part of this conversation that these economy politics. i'm the, the re, re entities or the account in the mid you're going to be with us of the problems we are facing today. unfortunately, the ones that are holding the light just a way of money and resources that we need. and so it's a balance between lifting this money go according to what we believe and what we gain so much into. so there's no hardness born investigations that allowed funding issues around climate change ones because people are afraid to move the traditional

source of power of money in a g, a or these things. but a good coming look on this. so many conflicting interests that needs to be meant that the governments have grappling with that account. the government is coupling with flip sampling. now what do you do us a call into government for example, for our contractor to come. do you go for me to get to commit shows or do you go for a little less thing solutions that we just have to model? so these are the issues that the part in the company with i'm that difficult to edwards. earlier i said that we would end up with solutions and i know some of you already doing things. we've been your various spheres of influence to try and change the situation. let's say your solutions please, as if we meant to be involved in the entire conversation, even in providing solutions in every household that we have a woman in our family, we have 3 women. if we blocked, if the 3 cheese using the available, what a dr. useful domestic, choose lou at the end of 3 years,

we have more trees in the home, and this will help in improving the photos to cover the number 2. on using the construction. there is a lot of construction of construction fences using these indigenous feet that takes over 2 years 40 to my tour. and there is a lot of deforestation taking place, contributed by man. because the don't with us selling these things to also help you ah, substituting the households because the customer lives. yeah. because the bus one zoom is no longer practiced or is going extinct because of the defense economic conditions we have. so if we come have uh other methods of goodness that is by using a cutting of the indigenous fees that are providing for us covering to come accounting . and i think this will help. let me close this conversation by hearing mama as views. i just want to hear from you, and you said earlier, what you would do as a leader, but what do you want from, from the people of can now what do you want as

a whole money to kinda uh and what can be done by the world to help alleviate the situation that you're in because of climate change, your quote with the have a lot of them they threw up on that of them. when you the jago you're going to let the money with the little apple. i think we have a thing here, but if adult feels hungry and the father is one providing for her, she'll cry when she's hungry. you blame for the government would help us didn't want all animals have died. all people are hungry and want to know if we die from hunger and where will the government get the support and they usually get from us getting that are because of where i'm going to do. you know that i'm not gonna worry about it and i know when i will in the now the young at it we need, i don't know. but in a video we do, gonna like to wrap this up. so if there's anybody who has some solutions for me, this is the moment dominique, let's hear from you. we'll have less comments. um, um i think uh,

one of the things that people need to do is to move these discussions from new york and the voice of both ends. this is a very big debate to the bus to release committed this. we a, we almost hit by the drought. this discussion shouldn't be discussed in march. somebody to do, uh oh, even very so. uh because uh it is not just livelihoods. the fact it is, it is these, these a huge cultural significant at that time. that's got to have to that kind of people who do this. somebody people say creative, creative people. yeah. so i mean if these uh, if they something that affects their livelihood, then they're kind of sorry, i mean, this is a very, very big problem. so it is a big debate to we are we appealing to the, to the, to the, to the wildly does have to bring this discussion home to where the problem is really, this was never going to be an easy conversation. it's not an easy one globally, it's not an easy one locally. but one thing has come up pretty clearly from my panel here that we need to do more talking and more talking to each other and looked at each other. i think the local guys here who joined us today,

i think the panel for breathing, the heat. and i especially thank you for watching the and i'm sure you got the message to but i heard the people also kind of saying that the conversation about climate change needs to be brought to the people most impacted by the phenomenon that is such a new pull to walk ages, who as pop, 27 in egypt agreed to establish a funds to assist the venerable country is lots of a impact. so by climate change. now we wait to see if communities are likely to apply and others will benefit from the loss and damage fund. well, thanks for watching. i'll see you next time. maybe with some music now, by the way

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