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of the researches and scientists all over the world are in a race against time. they are peers and rivals with one daring goals to help smart nature. the more likes watching it on youtube dw documentary hello and welcome to a special edition of the same as the savior present. i'm your host, christine, with the with 80 k thing. that's true. it's a straight debates we bid into kind of call and say in northern kenya, that is a region that has been severely impacted by climate change. it hasn't rained it so more than 2 years now and have a listen to what the people have to kind of who depend on land for the survival and
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livelihood towards my pony. it just came on me this week on the 77 percent street debate about it and i know we were living in the world if we die from hunger nowadays. where will the government get the support? but they usually get from us. video we dropped is obviously a front and center issue here. and you can see that he is already having real consequences. this is a very big the bid to the best of these communities we, we almost defeats the conversations around global climate issues on the climate change is not a few minutes. conversation is really something that needs community to sit together, create localized solutions to their own problems. hello and welcome back to the 77 percent in his 1st in will grow international address.
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candice president william brutal vowed the climate change would be central to this government. well, we're here into kinda in the north of kenya to find out what challenges lay ahead of him for this problem is, and i have some lovely people here to try and explain what exactly is happening in this region. i'd like to start to see a cause an a good nomic engineer, but just to give us an overview of the payment profile of this area, what is the nature of the, of the weather patterns and how has that changed over time? so this is a code to which is an additive to me added area and the communities of labor which is highly affected by the climate change. because when we have the change in with the buttons, that means that we look visitation cover for them like stroke. we also have challenges with water because for crop production we relate a lot of knob of hose that useful in addition. and when we have a extreme with the conditions, that means that the alternative was also go down. well, thank you so much for that summary and i want to come now to mama here who lives in
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this area because i need to have to kind of women and they just want to find out for me my, my, what have you seen changing over the years when way you planting, when was it raining and how has that changed since the one you can e and what was the a. yep i'm, we've been having a serious drought that has killed a live stock. but the people are hungry, especially women and children. and they're only living by the grace of god. you guys go, i'm very, you know, look like you can. can she remember a time when there was no drought when it was absolutely ok, the rings were predictable. there was still able to find a little bit around what are the amalgam is allowed to go now and i'm in our group that on the now the la sometime back, but it rained once in a while. we even practice agriculture. i p growing some slow going out using rain water, not the but the last 6 years. we've not been receiving enough rain. got very good.
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so i'll farms have dried up to what. and now the way i'm left with nothing. probably not. and i know about the email probably so dropped is obviously a front on center issue here. and you can see that he is already having real consequences. this, by the way, being the 5th consecutive failed rainy season. the this region of the great honda of africa is experiencing. so come and someone to come to you because you're the ranking member from the ministry of environment in this region. how bad is the situation statistically talking about if it goes, how many people are sleeping hungry going without water? because of what we're discussing here clement's interest really took into account since 1969. the temperature in took on account of increased by 2 degrees. this is a purely bused to at least county 70 percent of the people in this county depends on livestock production and then the remaining 15 to 20 percent of fish. i'm intrigued us on the bay part. it's like you've got to see is done. why do
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you up to know? we've got experience engineering. so these they'll have to claim that info. and i'll tell you to come to the county as compared to 15 years ago. so kimberly, let me come to you because you a radio host team this region. are you hearing the impact of what's, you know, what we're talking about food and security, lack of a rains, even flooding in some cases. how is that affecting the social structure of the area? we have visited some areas and actually i've seen the impact just like 50. let me just from here, like 3 weeks ago we went and made people a group of people group of 50 age people who will age because these overcome me. yeah, yeah. and it really affected them because now they ended up with issues of the area for me to an old. i tend to in you, you, you, you wonder why you people 18 these kind of food. and then they'll tell you that
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these little foods we look right to look left and we cannot find anything to do. but i'm just trying to figure out, you know, looking around it might be difficult for somebody to imagine how do you survive in this environment on why stay in this environment if it's so harsh, i think, uh, we, as post stories came here and we saw. yeah, and that's the way of living for our side of so we can move from maybe here too late or to k. no, because the does pick defines that good deal. so you're talking about conflict because of grazing. yeah. can you expound on that, please? yeah, the conflict between the, the videos community into kind of so that aspect of insecurity things of food and security because there's no food. this is a good can mean. so because it, then there's no pasta, there's no water. so they must go and take it from there. okay,
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so you brought up something really important, which is one of the impacts of climate change being conflict. but i want to come to you dominic because there's another phenomenon which is a climate migration. and i know parts of your family have been forced to move from one of these areas into another one in such of literally greener pastures. the moment we are talking about busted, at least moving from kenya, closing the border to get an up. let's go look over the insights for busta, and this is what is causing the conflicts we're hearing about. yeah, exactly, this is what is causing the conflict. because when you go there, of course you'll find people. so when the, when the, when one of the community that's going to come in to do now that is moving, that is moving to, to that place, insights for busta. it creates a situation that whereby they, they want to, to, where are the ones? what of the animals, the ones, the bus to away the same community? also ones the same. so i mean, it creates a it's good, some conflict. okay vicki, let me come to you. we've been quite on the side for a little bit of the, the women and how they're affected. because yesterday, as we were walking around in this homestead behind,
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we had that the main one knocked around because they've gone to look for pastor elsewhere. and so the women have been left by themselves. what is that doing to the women of this community, such stream uh, community has been pushed through since time immemorial. and one thing that uh, this uh, issue of climate change on the frequent migrations in such a pasta. and what the hows, really contributed to, uh, uh, pulling up my somebody just and also i've sent to them of buttons in their children, sleep on june the hotel, to fix the most of the development of children. as a lovely additional bundrum. you find most of the possible bustle group that is now the indigenous women don't even get to go to school because we believe that in our community it is the father, the discipline, to the baby. so it's really brings about 4 months of a lack of development community development, because uh, if we look uh adequate to then going to school and we don't get further good. the,
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you know, houses because the men can go up to 3 months that can go up to 6 months cuz he's gonna take him even particular with us to me. the next one you're talking about very important issues here, including how dry it is and the difficult you to get food and water. and i want to ask why my like today if you wanted to get to what uh, where do you go and find it? how far is it and what do you do on a daily basis to sustain yourself to feed yourself and your family when it was done in college, one of the, you know, by the, my god, when we get water from far away, women as low as the this fluid has no more ton of the drinking water from the pool, about 10 kilometers away from here. and once we fetch the water, we go looking for wild fruits in the bush along the tucker river. i'd be glad. at the moment, we're only eating food from a local palm tree, that'd be cool angle at the only and loading of the at the make choose from it and mix it with mayflower. does it mean?
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well, that could be what happens when we did. that's how we survive the diet. we used to have other fruits, but they dried up and i'm no longer there. i think the you, you put to the company that bought on at the dap our new. although not though, would you, you better be known as why i'm up on top of that would be one reason. finally, we're coming to hear your voice. we're hearing some very dark things on the other side. but these, for the security to mon nutrition that may be under nutrition, possibly young girl is getting married off early because the basics you don't have any other choices. so i guess my question is, where do we even begin to resolve this? where and you are busy saying, but perhaps looking at contemporary solutions like i tease the way forward, but can we even do that yet? it's a good question. i think the debate to the climate change has not done any good to our local communities. they've been to the climate change. sometimes i say it's
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a professionally bit that's on least have the needs of a few clink of people who aims to gain and profit from these kinds of a bit. because if this debate was meaningful, then this the bit would it be translated into the local people's lives because he is way or is but, but to bidding all of these, then what we left, we were on the left with innovations. how do we ensure that we create, you know, verify ideas that we have to get them to benefit the young people of the present generation. because the young people of the present generation of the 100 percent population of multi generation. and so if we don't do something to the present generation, then there's nothing we have talking about the presto, and you see me is getting into like a, we shall not be speaking over you and then explain to us if special investment change, he's made a very important point present that's local and indigenous communities. i left out of some of these benefits i left out of the conversations regarding them. do you
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think this is true and how do we remedy that? i work in the pots most the quote, the for them. and one of the challenges that to key or the evidence is the fact that even when we come up with solutions, bennett, community center. so you come up to a place and then you're like, okay, this, this place may be, they needs that they need food and then you're like, okay, well we, we to establish problems. but you're not keen or not what start to just can you use in the distributions come from the community. so communities have to be involved right from the scratch. so i want to ask him about because i, yeah, there was a charge me that we're not asking being didn't those people would the really want. so i need to ask you, if you what the president of this country, what do you think you would give the people of to kind of, to try and solve this problem of climate change that i am on. but i don't have any, i know you around the heart of many, i had a mini navigating for. so if i was the president and i had the resources,
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i would help the people because leaders are elected to help this village and the entire country needs help in terms of what to food and other things come up with that. that's why we elect leaders. i could be, i could not be even, and now you're kind of them on a couple of neat little when you get a, a young american with the one i want to ask the people who was sitting at the back then maybe you can help me. i can they remember the last time a locally that came a set of them about climate change? if they couldn't remember, just resent hands. me put up. no, no, no, no. oh they, she actually looks disgusted, i guess because of the state of leadership. so coming to have to come back to this, so many policies, these, even the beautiful climate change, acton does county, and yet people are still feeling disconnected from the leadership. how is that possible initially didn't of 3 months in place?
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so we need to have structures which would include up to communicate with the public, to the masses, or let us do the clement to introduce events and the additional not even loading. and that's why i was the local government to go to go to the took on the we, so we saw. so we, we thought it was very necessary for us to come up with the policies act on even clements in to find a glacial. the county government came up with this most and formed even the communities this community, the world clements is going to give me said the, this low a positive, nothing left to you know up to about november please. so if i have formed a bunch of communities, we have kind of lead training the community so that they understand. because one of them under it is to subsidize the community 12 meetings at the local level. and i'm sure they told me to come and meet these community in the future. so let me ask present and then i'm going to come to you because he was speaking, you will actually laughing as of what he was saying was fiction. well why, why is that? no, no, i was because i am one person was also participated in one of the climate change
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initiatives by the come to government. the truth of the month is a lot of investment is being invested into the climate change initiatives, especially by the ministry of environment of this cody. and some of us have been privileged to be part of that conversation. the question which we shouldn't be asking ourselves will add the right people to really participate in such kind of conversations. you see those or can speak english and be invited. it'll be cortez to discuss clement issues. or is it the read people down on the ground or should be the majority of the participants in such conversations? and as either before, even this issue is not just about the country, government is about the or approach how the climate change conversations is happening. this note at the national level, the national level of the international level. and this is vickie mentioned at the beginning. drew kind of cone to is really last is really big. that not enough
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resources to reach everybody. so the truth of the month, the easiest conversation was happening, but also decided reality is we are not reaching everybody, but something is happening. so let me ask the question, because of young people, isn't that our responsibility to be that bridge between the older generation? i may be the ones when not speaking the language as we're speaking boardrooms and you know, being that go between why is not happening. what do you have? i don't know. making sure that the information to get from that uh the, the many things that the lawn from schools to hold a bit about the climate change are supposed to be that's supposed to put it in the local context unexplained to, to the people. but you see the young people, we have a vision, so we of course is that we use to locate, we used to do a lot of things. we also need to stop what we need to support in terms of logistics in terms of transportation, in terms of the capacity to come and talk to the people. let me come back to kimberly then, because you did bring up the media when you're discussing these issues,
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it's probably in the local dialect. are we speaking boardroom language to people who should, who already know the issues in a different time? the knowledge. okay, that's one big challenge. most of the time we try and get uh, expertise. uh to be somebody who knows and who can translate it. i know way that they come on 19 to come into a central because no, we live late getting sent to the mixed. we have locals from other counties. so we mix swahili and the, the local dialect so that to please everyone can kind of get to understand what we're trying to see. maybe just adding something, it's important to know that even the impact of climate change in itself, in that community participation take on example of what mama was saying. she has to wake up at 6. she has to face what she has to go look for for the conversations around global climate issues. and the climate change is not top
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a few minutes conversation is what it is, something that needs community to see together. take the time, create localized solutions to their own problems. that is the time you're talking about. and that is the most important time, especially for plus the least a pesto need somebody to us to look at the 50 kilometer. i was looking for what i looking for, but it does take me so limited for this community is just not even engaging on such kind of conversation. so what is actually working? can you give me examples of adaptation and mutation? things that are being done, which are actually working, that we are not the cause of this climate change, the global know the costs. we have self funding of hopefully con countries on specifically took into account. we've experienced the clement sense for us to adopting these clemency conditions. while most of the official onto the city is and that's why the county budgets almost 8 percent of the country budget is that'll kit it was clements. it's a definition. how come to government is doing what a project?
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for example, we haven't really over 1000 united boards just to christmas lives to ensure that people are getting water waived the main things clements most likely cut. so we are going program so and improve improvement of beats. so that kind of clement was seen incompletes and took on the county, and so many of the visual mm. but you gotta be okay, so let's see what we've had, what government is doing. but when you look at the countries like egypt and as well, you get the sense that we could be doing so much more. a good cause for production, especially in the northern part of the country. you request a lot of interest in talking of because we have over 1004 who's us data to had mentioned both those really big partners both in those 2 by the code to government dealing a boy who is a huge, huge investment because you have to do you have to be quick entity? so said that so many of these bull who's cutting to the do not have as much as
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a cut into these a lot. we had been bored as puts us in the code to government. our efforts to actually diminished because like, what more can we do right now? other than having my disagree responses, we're hearing a lot about money and investments, and rightfully so, where do we go from here? if the international community does not contribute and we don't have enough money, where do we go next? yeah, that's they, they decided part of this conversation that this economy politics. i'm the, the read realities on the ground. is the major going to be a test of the problems we are facing today? unfortunately, i the ones data holding the live, just a waste of money and resources that we need. and so it's a balance between lifting this money go according to what we believe and what we gain so much into. so there's no hardness going about stations out on funding issues around climate change ones because people are afraid to move the tradition of the source of power of money in a g at all of these things. but again,
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coming look on this. so many conflicting interests that needs to be met, that the governments have grappling with that they come into government is coupling with, for example. now what do you do as a co, into government, for example, for a contractor to come? do you go for me to get to commit shows or do you go for a little less thing solutions that we just have to model? so these are the issues that people at any company with i'm that difficult to edwards. i said that we would end up with solutions and i know some of you already doing things within your various spheres of influence to try and change the situation. let's say your solutions, please, as if we meant can be involved in the entire conversation, even in providing solutions in every household that we have a woman in our family, we have 3 women. if we blocked the 3 cheese using the available, what are the useful domestics use really at the end of 3 years and we have more
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trees in our home. and this will help in improving the photos to cover the number 2 . on using the construction. there is a level of construction the construction offenses using these indigenous feet that takes over 2 years for it to mature on. there is a lot of the board especially taking place contributed by man because the one to the best selling these things to also help you. substituting the households because the, the, the, the customer lives. yeah, because bustle zoom is no longer practiced or is going next thing because of the defense economic conditions we have. so if we can have other methods of a good name that is by using a cutting of the indigenous tools that are providing for the scrubbing to come back on to. and i think this will help. let me close this conversation by hearing mama's views. i just want to hear from you, and you said earlier, what you would do as a leader, but what do you want from, from the people of can now what do you want as
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a whole money to kinda uh and what can be done by the world to help alleviate the situation that you're in because of climate change, your global 9. 0 yeah. they do go to a lot of them. they threw up on that of them. when you the jago, you're going to let the money with the little apple. i the we have a thing here. but if a daughter feels hungry and the father is one providing for her, she'll cry when she's hungry, people in what they told the government would help us did. when all animals have died, people are hungry and want to know if we die from hunger. where will the government get the support and they usually get from us getting that are because of where i'm going to do. you know that i'm not gonna go by the end. i know when i will in the now the young and at it we need, i don't know, but in a video we do gonna like to wrap this up. so if there's anybody who has some solutions for me, this is the moment dominique, let's hear from you. we'll have less comments, i'm um, i think one of the things that people need to do is to move these discussions from
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new york and a voice bro, since this is a very big debate to the bus, but at least i mean, it is we, we almost hit by the drought. this discussion shouldn't be discussing much somebody to do. uh oh, even very sir, because uh, it is not just livelihoods that affect it. is it is these, these a huge cultural significance at that time. that's got to have to that you're going to people who did this of molly, people say create that creative people. yeah. so i mean if these uh, if they something that a fix that livelihood, then they're kind of sorry. i mean, this is a very, very big problem. so it is a big debate to we are we appealing to the, to the, to the, to the wildly does have to bring this discussion home to where the problem is really, this was never going to be an easy conversation. it's not an easy one globally, it's not an easy one locally. but one thing has come up pretty clearly from my panel here that we need to do more talking and more talking to each other and look at each other. i think the local guys here who joined us today, i think the panel for breathing,
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the heat and especially thank you for watching the and i'm sure you've got the message to but i heard the paper officer kind of saying that the conversation about climate change needs to be brought to the people most impacted by this and on. and that is such a new pull to walgreens is who as pop, 27 in egypt agreed to establish a funds to assist venerable countries who wants to be impacted by climate change. now we wait to see if communities like that to upon and others will benefit from the loss and damage fund. well, thanks for watching. i'll see you next time. well, maybe with some music now, by the way,
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