the goals we say they're about never giving up every weekend on d w. the high finish panagerie's. welcome to day on the program, the following 3 stories about the east, around how mos full, un secretary general and tony a good time. it saves the situation in gaza. he's going, desperate end of the number of civilians killed and injured is totally unacceptable . we looked at how the water is still contentions, and from from the united states, between jewish and protestant and communities tend

a detailed look at the ministry holes in united states. explain in the conflict but 1st, a long and difficult to pull that poses really prime minister benjamin netanyahu was wanting over the weekend, as he declared a new stage and operations against hum us isabel has conducted a series of ground incursions into goes up. israel is really pre, has released the video of adult and control tanks, infantry, an opportunity operating inside the finest intended tree. the monitoring saves. it struck more than $450.00 ton of target and the rates were thomas also reporting heavy fighting with ease, rarely troops in northern does a according to there, is there any defense forces? it's only the beginning as they might not even not. we increase the injury of audi, of forces into gaza to join the forces already the 4th with gradually expanding the grand activities and the extent of our forces as well as i'm sure so. so the idea

of signaling gradually expanding ground activities as opposed to an old loud ground invasion. here's ministry on this mike martin with mall on israel strategy and goals. it's quite a difficult thing to do to move into an oven area and to try and, you know, israel said they want to destroy hama, that's a very difficult thing to do. and so what we've seen so far is israel is crossed into the gaza strip, hasn't gone into the oven area, but is securing some areas outside of gauze, the city itself. these sorts of was unconventional was always and with the political settlement. so they come be sol, militarily. and so the question is, riley is okay, it's going to go in the, it will take hours and how much time on the tunnels. it will kill some of the leadership very unlikely to destroy have us. and then what they've then still got the same problem that they started with, but that will be tens of thousands of palestinians that and probably thousands of

israelis as well. and so the question is, what is the political strategy that wraps around this minute you activity at the moment i see none, but the ministry still continue to add civilians and does have to head south for their own safety. this, even as the u. n. is wanting of a breakdown of public order. i made widespread shortages of water, fuel and medicine. over the weekend, the thousands of cousins broke into you on warehouses grabbing flaw and other supplies. a deliveries have slow to trickle into these will begin bombing does a, after the hum mazda rest attack on the 7th of october. you are in chief and doing their good. that is, once again, sounding the alarm situation. and i think that the balls supported by the international community

and for the care of the picture, it'll take your mind at that in crisis unfolding. and because of my colleague teddy martin spoke to toby frick a spokesperson for the united nations children's fund unit stuff. yeah, that's right. he says, hasn't seen on the ground in the gulf strip. uh, we lost communications around 24 hours and thankfully, yesterday we were in such down the saw the site is that the situation is really great. you have a nice mother who has a full year old 7 year old girl. and she was telling us about how to find the full year old who has been your results. it is a cell home, really stretching a size because she's in such the traumas affected so much, but at the same time this drug is get access to. so essentially, the lights are staples that i be 3 d, so t was in now for around 10 days. and her children are been saying here, what have you seen motorcycles or again, regular goals? so situation is ready for every child inside the gaza strip. i now. so there's

a lot of concerns heavy about what's happening in gaza city, particularly at the a sofa and l codes. hospitals. what can you tell us about the situation there? yeah, well i think the hospitals have been on the massive strain. i mean, even before this installation, uh, the results of the whole. well, let me see i as, as a manager, suffice seal. and nowadays escalation of the situation is really very personal, that treating people when the children have wounded in, you know, size. but they're also treating people, it's likely jodi, i need some new balls and inconveniences, and office the diseases and regular issues that happened all the time. and that we, you know, we exchanged some profile over here about the situation you on the international humanitarian. well, let's not forget health care facilities offered texas, and that's actually pretty cool at the side of the world health organization and other say you're moving a lot from a hospital is essentially a this sense. but you,

in general, assembly resolution has called for an immediate cease fire that's among growing demands for a humanitarian pause in the fighting. do you believe that we will see the opening of humanitarian court oars any time sir? slow is very much low so that we'll see increased humanitarian access, say unimpeded access. not it's not just wild deliveries, but it's the same. we really need to scale up the amount of live, say supplies that can come in, solve that problem in. but it's a certainly by no means and not given the immense needs that are inside the golf strip. and that's why you sent us whether you had 60 general p going for an immediate humanitarian. the saw so that you might interior and safely move supplies around us. we'll get them in and then move them around to reach people who are in such a need at this time. the focus of your organization, of course, is children. you described to us an anecdote from one of one of your employees on

the ground there. how are children in general being affected by this war? because i understand the number of casualties among children is very high. yeah, i mean the number of casualties is terrific. oh you more than 3300 children, the reports of the big kill you. i'm not uh more than 6300 is the easy w. these mountains are immense and terrific. so 1st of all, what people are trying to do is protect the lives of the children. go to the saw member. i spoke about this not she's been the 1st parties to protect her children's lives on the side of the goals. but she's also trying to do the job, humanitarian job, to support other children, to support other families who are also having massive, massive needs. most of the situation just real quick and then, and then this the access to services. yes. the health services. so essentially it's with us, i looked at that and spoke about, it's so critical to keep children in line, and that's where we're at. it's very,

a bound, lifesaving what the impact of the conflict between isabel on her mazda is extending beyond regional board as the out in europe. for instance, the vall, hospitalized opinion, both for israel and for palestine. fonts, which are some of the largest and most of them in jewish populations in western europe, has seen opposing demonstrations and also reported a rise in anti semitic incidents. i'm, it's this tom on one integrated group is hoping to be an example of tolerance, a haven of peace amidst the world in turmoil. this great coal to united believe us peace was set top 20 years ago. it aims to show that people from different religions come live in harmony even in times of crisis. the method is to work together on a common project. this garden is toby's cit. dental. it's great to have this place where we can all meet us, all muslims, jews, protestants, catholics,

to work together and exchange views. he shows e. so to feel is all the b. c. we gather here to show that human life was still has great value of good, even if it's put at risk elsewhere in the world. it was more in me on the pleasant do, say, proceed with this just goes to show that you can get along, even if you don't agree on everything, or mendecy only for the course of 2 the, when it comes to the current conflict in the middle east they, they prefer to keep them use private for now. they feel times of tens, especially in the country home towards are among the largest jewish and muslim population in western unit. you won't be able to physically to know that was fear is emotionally charged. more people have a tendency in times of crisis to take sides of the 6th and look for the 2nd divide on level 2. we took it so instead of being soaked up by our belief that only talking to people who agree with us. the reason why people who should try to establish a connection with other people in order. so start and helps it. that'd be so it's

like another planet, you know, we can forget about all the wars out there that you develop. well, it's really cool for you to move, but not all parts of france, i'll say come, that has been numerous demonstrations in favor of israel and pro palestinian gatherings over the past weeks. the government says that almost $600.00 and to submit to acts have been registered in france since the current conflict. brent called this research assess, it's not the 1st time unrest that has led to tensions here. well no these uh, during the 2nd intifada between 200-2006, the number of anti semitic acts went up considerably. and most lives in france were also reporting that they were being discriminated against it. we don't know yet. if the recent stabbing death of a teacher and what is believe to be in this logic, terrorist attack was linked to the warren israel. but this event reinforces

distrusts towards the almost funds, even if there are no way linked to this and pay this, i might get more for a back in black. the group plans to organize discussions on the wall in the middle east. this afternoon though, they in that meeting with a message of hope from american baptist minister and political activist, martin luther king. then you is on your phone and the lion and the lamb shall lie down together. and every man she'll sit under his own vine and fig. tree and none, she'll be a friend at all. so we try to be mindful and respectful towards others and accept our difference. also. they believe faith should force to piece a message. they hope will resonate the young people there and friends and also in the part of the united states jewish and putting an american communities on edge experts. a warning of a rise in anti semitism and slumber for the demonstration of both sides of the

conflict of broken out across the country, especially on college campuses. dw is e s bull has spoken to jo version financing and americans in the capital, washington, dc. note on drafting has never been this worried walking around campus at georgetown university. the past couple of weeks you seen protests which launched into hateful tyrants. it's extremely unsettling to see the calls for one state with no jews. and it does even walk right by and right in front of jews on campus. it takes it to all, but you have to show up and you have to do what you have to do otherwise they, when it's what nolan has done is co phoned, georgetown law scientists, this fellow jewish student. the group wants to take a stand against what they describe as growing antisemitic. and anti is ro rather raked in the us. the fear is mon, doing them on the palestinian american community to chicago. this little boy was

killed and then the alleged hate crime authorities said 6 year old idea all for you me was a tag for be muslim. and the tensions over the conflict in the middle east lead to the killing beer ramadan. she now we worked as an educational consultant in the palestinian american community. she would only talk to us in the park that she fears her office may become a target. the 6 year old boy who was working in the chicago area from my home town house calls a lot of anxiety and a lot of here and parents who are making sure that their kids are being safe as well. my daughter, she text me from work and she was like, mom, i feel anxious. i don't know why. and we talked about it and it was about everything it was going on. and she said she feels paranoid about going out tensions in the us or so high that presidential biden has spoken out what's to address the issue with most without equivocation denounced and i semitism. we must

also, without equivocation denounced as lemma phobia. and all you heard, i hear you heard, i want you to know. i see you belong. am it growing divisions? some groups are aiming to foster dialogue between jews and arabs. this randy was organized by jewish voice for peace. a group that's critical of is really policy and i need to say something i need to do something. we've been the victims of genocide before. and i can sit by and watch my people now do that to others. so hoping to be here and hoping collectively we can send a powerful message as a jew, it's important to me that my grease not be weaponized in this moment. it's a beautiful thing that there are so many jews because i think it's a very appropriate representation of what it's like back all the people like us as well. it's not really about the religion at the end of the day. it's about humanity . it doesn't matter what you believe and it doesn't matter what you look like. it

doesn't matter where you're from. and let's get more of this story from the the phone to william, joe cross we just based on what he saw in is report there. talk to us a bit about what the relations between jewish and palestine and communities have traditionally been like in the united states. and if the most at techs have changed in any significant way. and i think what we heard from you is report, there is a very good understanding that these groups, like all groups are not model. that's right. you have a variety of political opinions. you have a variety of demographics veterans forming those opinions and we hear that, you know, you have in all groups you have, you know, f know nationalists who are happy to lean into these kinds of fears and, and hatred and anger towards other groups. and then you also have seen, especially in last reason we groups calling for peace groups calling for co existence groups calling for the end of war groups looking to sit, you know,

to sympathize with the other. i think if there are 2 broad things that, that jews and palestinians in the united states specifically do have in common is one, they're both. they ask for rich groups, right. they're both groups that are largely, you know, a diaspora. the palestinians, of course, standing from the next $48.00 founding of israel, and the displacement that happened as a result. and you is going back, you know, basically the entire history of the jewish people. you can look at the inquisition, you can look at, of course, in more modern times, the holocaust pushing and spreading and forcing people all around the world. and that means that in addition to the geo political and geostrategic importance of the region, when things like this in israel and with the policy has happened, you also have very personal connection to this region. due to that, i asked for a situation in that causes, as we've seen in this report, you know, anger, fear, worries to be, to run very, very hot. nonetheless, what we saw on october 7th isn't anything particularly new in terms of relations.

but when these things happen, when these awful incidents of violence of terrorism of war happens, what we see is, of course, these sorts of issues coming more to the 4, they're always there. but in these moments of crisis, they're just that much more present. and you also have president biden, having said that the us stands with is rarely in addition to sending ministry support to is around how i found a stay near and then the wider out of the communities. and the us interpreting that support as the us is always in a tricky situation when it comes to israel. in particular, right, i want to have the us as an iron clad commitments to israel, to defend the state of visual, to defend the existence of israel and to its defence right. against the many threats that israel se system has spaced over the years. but at the same time, of course, the arab world cannot be ignored. the other side of things cannot be ignored. the united states has security interest as economic interest in parts of the world,

but see things very differently. and so you do have this very difficult, a balancing act that the united states over successive governments, regardless of who's president, regardless of what party is in power, to show its commitment to israel while the same time, at least trying to appear what they liked to call themselves as a neutral broker, of course, that's questionable if united states really can be a neutral broker when you're such a large and influential superpower in the world. and you have your own interest that you are trying to protect. but nonetheless, we've seen this since the attacks with the us, while giving israel quite a bit of latitude to defend itself in the way it sees fit at the same time raining it in, by reminding it of its commitments to international law. and it actually is, as we've been hearing from reports, you know, a lot of collaboration in court communication between is rarely and united states military establishment to sort of shape and guide exactly how israel's military response and gaza is going to go out. so we see the united states trying to walk

that fine line. and also in, for example, the hostage is working with comp are for example, to try to get some of at least the american hostage. so this is, this is that the delicate political balance at the us always spaces and these kinds of moments. and it's particularly that a military role that i'd like to discuss with you further. let me read just like to stay on the line because we just need to 1st look at what the us has recently said on this particular aspect. because speaking to the program, 60 minutes on us new outlet, cbs vice president cumberland, hardy, said, and i quote, we have absolutely no intention, nor do we have any plans to send to come back to troops into is around, oh, gods, a period. so we have, we also looked at security issues for data, and we just talked little bit about the united states. sees as it's really pre roll in the cut into conflict. right. and that quote from pamela harris. combat troops is the important term here. the us, of course, has a presence in many parts of the world. uh, it just depends how you define presence,

right? maybe not in a combat role, but certainly in training, in support for it's many weapon systems itself. and you see that it is where it was . well, there is some american presence in israel, just given the sheer amount of american weaponry and equipment in israel tickets sold and given to israel every year. you do have american supports for that, and we have seen it, especially since how mazda is attacks. we see increased coordination and collaboration, at least from the reporting. we're hearing what the defense department, united states is saying between israel and the united states. but campbell harris does make the point. there will be no boots on the ground as they say, just like we've heard a new crane rights full support for ukraine, just like full support for israel, but no direct intervention. nonetheless, the us of course, maintains a massive military presence all around the world, especially in the middle east to defend what it sees as its interest. especially these a v, a b ron, right. we saw those strikes in syria against targets from the ronnie and back

groups. this was, as they said, in response to a tax against us personnel in rock. so it's a very delicate balance to, as the, as, as the white house is said, deterrence, without exacerbating or widening the conflict between them, dubious the instances also show that the us is itself a target for meeting and proxies. and if so, is that a danger, for instance, of the us enters into a direct conflict with it on are right. the danger is always there. and of course the united states as a long history of some very bloody attacks and everything about 11 on, for example, in the 1980s the, the us personnel that, that came under attack there. so the us is certainly not, no stranger to a being directly attacked by iran proxies and by other uh, you know, opponents in the regents of the united states. right now what we're seeing is, as i said, united states wants to defend its interest, wants to set a send a message to a,

to the ron and to it's affiliated groups around the region. not to get involved, not to escalate. but at the same time, the us doesn't want to escalate itself. i think the us at the last thing wants to do, especially, was trying to re negotiate a nuclear deal with the wrong is to have yet another major war in the middle east forever. jo biding by getting out of afghanistan wants to get away from this whole region. he wants to focus on china and russia and not get bogged down in the middle east as united states did for the 20 years after 911 with very little positive effect. and just devastating consequences for the region and real, no real security games for the united states. and i think that's what the by the administration is looking at trying to look at that recent history and not go down that road again. well, the same time b as the united states needs to decide it's interest. still showing that it is, it has the assets to do so without further attacking ation, antagonist ation. but the question is also, how far will the us actually go when it comes to supporting ease of alameda telling

me, i mean, what does that consist of that support? right. and is the us already since the most amount of for an aide, and most of it is military age to is rather any other country in the world. it has now since the existence of israel headset the billions and billions and billions of dollars worth of mostly military israel. so that's that partnership that support for israel specially is defense is already there. we've already seen um you know, promises and actually deliveries of new munitions, especially when it comes to the iron. don't the iron down which is where it was famous for this missile defense isn't this highly effective against homos rocket attacks is actually a us weapon system, right. this was developed by rates you on by lockheed martin major american military contractors. and so there's been promises to send more to israel, but we have to remember the us is also trying to supply ukraine's trying to supply taiwan. and we are officially any weights, any piece, time production situation,

right? we are, we're not like in a world where to situation where the entire economy has been turned over to producing to fight a war. so there are supply chain issues, right? just the ukraine alone, the united states and its european allies have had trouble getting the weapons and the ammunition that ukraine is asked for and has been promised to actually get into the field. so whether they can be better or faster, they're just certain, some just certain physical constraints that the united states spaces in. now keeping of it's renewed commitments to israel, whether it's a missiles, missile defense and other kinds of major weapon systems that israel has asked for, or may ask for, especially ammunition for it's airplanes, because this has primarily been an air war less thus far. we've also heard in the past few weeks, talk of a mazda the front was that each man could be facing. and depending on whom you speak to the front or the expand or frame, but in any case, the remain locked in front. some people talk about has been law in addition to the

westbank, and then he's been facing internal security threats. i mean, the question that i was basically sort of arriving at is, depending on how is it around the phase in the fair i was in a potential multi front pool. is that a possibility that the us has to actually put boots on the ground that actually fight for israel? so this is a big question. diversity or radical question. for now at least of course, israel's existence is not in question hum. austin has beloved while they can strike very very, what very heinous means is relative. they of course, do not threaten the very existence of israel. nonetheless, that question is a valid one because it's something that a country like united states space is what does it really mean when we say we, we stand up for israel's defense? we stand up for its existence. we will make sure that it continues to exist. what does that really mean we, we see that not only in the case of israel, so in case of us commitments to taiwan us, commitments, ukraine,

how far will the united states really go to make to youtube, to, to, to back it's words with deeds that is something we're very far from israel does have experience with fighting multi front doors. we saw that in 1967 we saw that 1973 in 1973, which was the greatest threats to is rarely to israel's continued existence. as a state of the united states did get very close to actually not maybe 20 boots on the ground, but, but very, very intense military support for israel in those 1st days of the surprise attack against israel on multiple friends when he's real, really was facing quite an x, a central crisis, that is not what we're facing right now, but the point remains. what if the northern front from lab or not from his blood becomes active? what if the rod does want to escalate at visa versus that israel faces? and i think a major headache for the united states, which as i said earlier, has many competing interests in the region. and well, these role might be a 1st among equals, it is not the only interest by far,

not the only interest in the region. we're living there for the timing, but thanks very much with him for bringing all that context to us. we didn't blue cross. thank you. and that's it. so now this continuing updates on these, but i'm also on our website. i'm going to strategy and relate and thanks so much for watching the israel at war analysis and background stories. we need the news provide extended coverage. what is the military and situation in the gaza strip? how will the launch at the ground defensive impact these really hostages. experts report from the extended coverage on dw use. in session minutes on the w trast fashion as an environmental 9.

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