the sauce, it's getting cold. the rates of holding sign and the volunteers will windsor freeze their mission. kids particular scene, rebuild jobs, move indices, dw, the hello, and welcome to the special edition of the same as the savior present. i'm your host proceeding with the with a k thing. let's show it to a straight debates. we bid into kind of call and say in northern kenya, that is a region that has been severely impacted by climate change. it hasn't rained it. so more than 2 years now and have a listen to what the people have to kind of who depend on land for the survival and livelihood towards my pony. it just came on me this week on

the 77 percent street debate about it. and i know we were on the if we die from hunger nowadays, where will the government get the support that they usually get from us? as in a video we dropped is obviously a front and center issue here. and you can see that he is already having real consequences. this is a very big the bid to the best of these communities we, we almost hit the conversations around global climate issues and the climate change is not top a few minutes conversation is what it is, something that needs community to sit together, create localized solutions to their own problems. hello and welcome back to the 77 percent in his 1st inaugural international address . ken, as president william brutal vote, the climate change would be central to this government. well,

we're here into kinda in the most of kenya to find out what challenges lay ahead of him for this problem is, and i have some lovely people here to try and explain what exactly is happening in this region. i'd like to start to see a cause an a good nomic engineer, but just to give us an overview of the claimant profile of this area, what is the nature of the, of the weather patterns and how has that changed over time? so this is a code to which is an additive see me added area and the community's way of living, which is highly affected by the climate change. because when we have the change in with the buttons, that means that we look visitation cover for them like stroke. we also have challenges with water because for crop production we relate a lot or now was that useful? in addition? and when we have extremely the conditions, that means that the water levels also go down. well, thank you so much for that summary. and i want to come now to mamma here who lives in this area because i need to have to kind of woman and they just want to find out

for me. mama, what have you seen changing over the years when way you planting? when was it raining and how has that changed since the one you can me and i hope all is the a. yep i'm, we've been having a serious drought that has killed a live stock. but the people are hungry, especially women and children. and they're only living by the grace of god. you guys go, i'm very, you know, look like you can. can she remember a time when there was no drought when it was absolutely ok? the rains were predictable. there was still able to find a little bit around what are the amalgam is what i would do. but now that i'm in our group that on the now the la sometime back, but it rained once in a while. we even practice agriculture. i p growing some slow going out using rain water, not the but the last 6 years. we've not been receiving enough rain. got very good. so i'll farms have dried up to what. and now the pool and left was nothing the

about any email probably. so dropped is obviously a front on center issue here and you can see that he is already having real consequences. this, by the way, being the 5th consecutive failed rainy season. the this region of the great honda of africa is experiencing. so come and i want to come to you because you're the ranking member from the ministry of environment in this region. how bad is the situation statistically talking about if it goes, how many people are sleeping hungry going without water? because of what we're discussing here clement's interest really took into account since 1969 the templates in took on account of increased by 2 degrees. this is a purely bused to at least county 70 percent of the people in this county depends on livestock production. and then the remaining to 15 to 20 percent of fish. i'm intrigued us under the parties like you've got to see is done. why do you up to know who built experience and you the so these

a lot to clean the info. and i'll tell you to come to the county as compared to 15 years ago. so kimberly, let me come to you because you a radio steam this region. are you hearing the impact of what's, you know, what we're talking about food and security, lack of a range, even flooding in some cases. how is that affecting the social structure of the area? we have visited some areas and actually i've seen the impact just like 50. let me just from here, like 3 weeks ago we went and met people, a group of people group of 50 age people who will age because he's overcome me. yeah. yeah. and it really affected them because now they ended up with issues of the area for me to an old. i tend to in you, you, you, you wonder why you people 18 these kind of food and then they'll tell you, yet, these little foods. we look right to look left and we cannot find anything to do.

but i'm just trying to figure out, you know, looking around it might be difficult for somebody to imagine how do you survive in this environment on why stay in this environment if it's so harsh, i think, uh, we, i was post stories came here and we saw yeah, and that's the way of living for our side of so we can move from maybe here too late or to k. no, because the does pick defines that good deal. so you're talking about conflict because of grazing. yeah. can you expound on that, please? yeah, the conflict between the, the videos community the into kind of so that aspect of insecurity things of, uh, a folding security because if there's no food, this is a good campaign. so because of that, there's no pasta, there's no water, so they mustn't go and take it from there. okay, so you brought up something really important, which is one of the impacts of climate change being conflict. but i want to come to

your dominique because there's another phenomenon which is a climate migration. and i know parts of your family have been forced to move from one of these areas into another one in such of literally greener pastures. the moment the other thing about the bus that at least moving from kenya of closing the border to gotten up, let's go look over the insights for busta. and this is what is causing the conflict we are hearing about. yeah, exactly, this is what is causing the conflict because when you go there, of course you'll find people. so when the, when the, when one of the community that's going to come in to do now, that is most thing that is moving to, to that place insightful pasta. it creates a situation that whereby they, they want to where are the ones? what of the animals, the ones busta away the same community. also ones the same. so i mean, it creeps up, it's good, some conflict. ok vicki? let me come to you. we've been quite on the side for a little bit of the, the women and how they're affected. because yesterday, as we were walking around in this homestead behind, we had that the main one knocked around because they've gone to look for pastor elsewhere. and so the women have been left by themselves. what is that doing to the

women of this community? such stream uh, community has been pluses, since time immemorial. and one thing that uh, this uh, issue of climate change on the frequent migration in such a pasta in water has really contributed to, uh, uh, pulling up mazda mazda just and also i've sent to them of buttons in the attendance slate. on june, the holdup i fix the most of the development of children as well as the additional bundrum. you find most of the possible bustle grew. that is now the indigenous women don't even get to go to school because we believe that in our community it is the father, the discipline, to the baby. so it's really uh when it's about 4 months um a lack of development community development. because if we are adequate to then going to school and we don't get the further the good the, you know, houses because the men can go up to 3 months that can go up to 6 months because

it's gonna take you even particular with us to be the next one you're talking about very important issues here, including how dry it isn't that difficult to, to get food and water. and i want to ask mom i like today if you wanted to get to what, uh, where do you go and find it? how far is it and what do you do on a daily basis to sustain yourself to feed yourself and your family when it was done in college, one of the, you know, by the, my god, when we get water from far away, women as well as the this fluid has no more ton of the drinking water from the pool, about 10 kilometers away from here. and once we fetch the water, we go looking for wild foods in the bush along the tucker river. i'd be glad. at the moment we're only eating food from a local palm tree, that'd be cool. angle. yeah. at the only and letting the uh, to make choose from it and mix it with mayflower. does it mean? well make it be rather than we did. that's how we survive. the diet,

we used to have other fruits, but they dried up and i'm no longer there. anybody you put to the company that bought all that back down into a pony. although not though we do it up, you know. meanwhile, i'm up on top of that would be one reason. finally, we're coming to hear your voice. we're hearing some very dark things on the other side. but these for the security mon nutrition and may be under nutrition. possibly, young girl is getting married off early because the basics you don't have any other choices. so i guess my question is, where do we even begin to resolve this? where and you are busy saying, but perhaps looking at contemporary solutions like i tease the way forward, but can we even do that yet? uh, good question. i think the bid to the climate change has not done any good to our local communities. maybe bit of climate change, sometimes i say it's a professionally bit that's on least have the needs of

a few clink of people who aims to gain and profit from this kind of a bit. because if this debate was meaningful, then this debate would it be translated into the local people's lives because he is way or is but, but you're getting all these then what we left, we were on the left with innovations. how do we ensure that we create, you know, verify ideas that we have to get them to benefit the young people of the present generation. because the young people of the present generation of the 100 percent population of multi generation. and so if we don't do something to the present generation, then there's nothing we have talking about. the prestone, the same as it is, is getting into like a we shall not be speaking over it and then explain to us if special investment change, he's made a very important point present that's local and it in those communities i left out of some of these benefits i left out of conversations regarding them. do you think this is true and how do we remedy that? i work in the pots most the quote,

the for them. and one of the challenges that to key or the evidence is the fact that even when we come up with solutions, then the community center. so you come up to a place and then you're like, ok this, this place may be, they needs that they need food and then you're like, okay, well we, we to establish problems, but you're not keen or not what start to just get new use in the the solutions come from the community, so communities have to be involved right from the start. so i want to ask about because i, yeah, there was a charge me that we're not asking being didn't as people what they really want. so i need to ask you, if you what the president of this country, what do you think you would give the people of to kind of, to try and solve this problem of climate change that i am on. but i don't have any, i know you're around the heart of any yeah, i really the navigating the for. so if i was the president and i had the resources, i would help the people because leaders are elected to help this village and the

entire country needs help in terms of water, food, and other things. so that's why we elect leaders. i could be, i'll come on saturday even and now you got them on a couple of nice. and then when you get a, a young american with the one i want to ask the people who was sitting at the back then maybe you can help me. i can they remember the last time a locally that came a suck with them about climate change is because remember, just resent hands for the mob. no, no. oh the, she actually looks disgusted, i guess because of the state of leadership. so come in to have to come back to this so many policies, these even a beautiful climate change act and just county. and yet people are still feeling disconnected from the leadership. how is that possible? as you said, we didn't of 3 months in place, so we need to have structures which would include up to communicate with the public

to the masses. or let us do the clements, introduce events and the additional not even loading. and that's why i was the local government to go to go to the took on the we. so we saw we, we thought it was very necessary for us to come up with the policies act and even clements in to find a glitch with the content government came up with this most and formed even the communities this community, the world clements is going to give me a shout on this low, a positive, nothing left to you know up to about november, please. so 5 formed a bunch of communities. we have kind of lead training the community so that they understand because one of them, and that is to sensitize the community 12 meetings at the local level, and i'm sure they told me to come and meet these community in the future. so let me ask a present and then i'm going to come to you because he was speaking, you will actually laughing as to what he was saying was fiction. well, why, why is that? no, no, i was sad because i am one person was also participated in one of the climate change initiatives by the come to government. the truth of the matter is

a lot of investment is being invested into the climate change initiatives, especially by the ministry of environment of this coaching. and some of us have been privileged to be part of that conversation. the question which we shouldn't be asking ourselves. well, the right people to really participate in such kind of conversations, you see those or can speak english and be invited. it'd be cortez to discuss climate issues. or is it the read people down on the ground or should be the majority of the participants inside conversations and do us either before even this issue is not just about the country, government is about the or approach how the climate change conversations is happening. this note at the national level, the national level on the international level. and this is vicky mentioned at the beginning to kind of county is really last is really big. that not enough resources to reach everybody. so the truth of the matter is yes. conversations are happening,

but also decided reality is we are not reaching everybody, but something is happening. so let me ask them in the question because of young people, isn't that our responsibility to be that bridge between the older generation and maybe the ones were not speaking the language as we're speaking in boardrooms? and you know, being that go between wise and that happening, what do you have? i don't know, making sure that the information they get from that uh the, the many things that the line from schools to hold a bit about the climate change as opposed to do decibels, to put it in the local context unexplained to, to us. but you see the young people, we have a vision, so we of course is that we use to locate, we used to do a lot of things. we also need to stop what we need to support in terms of logistics in terms of transportation, in terms of the capacity to come and talk to the people. let me come back to company then because you did bring up the media when you're discussing these issues, it's probably in the local dialect. are we speaking boardroom language to people

who should, who already know the issues in the different tell me knowledge. okay, that's one big challenge. most of the time we try and get uh, expertise to be somebody who knows and who can translate it. i know way that they come on 19 to come into a central because no, we live late getting sent to the mixed. we have locals from other counties. so we mix swahili and the the local dialect. so that's at least everyone can kind of get to understand what we're trying to see. maybe just adding something, it's important to know that even the impact of climate change in itself in that community participation take on example of what mama was saying. she has to wake up at 6, she has to face what she has to go look for for the conversations around global climate issues. and the climate change is not top a few minutes conversation is what it is, something that needs community to sit together, take the time,

create localized solutions to their own problems. that is the time you're talking about. and that is the most important time, especially for our pastor least a pesto need somebody to us to look at the 50 kilometer. i was looking for what i looking for, but it does take me certain limit that for this community is just not even engaging on such kind of conversation. so what is actually working? can you give me examples of adaptation and which addition things that are being done which are actually working we are not the cause of this climate change, the globe or know the cause. we have self funding of hopefully con countries on specifically and took into account. we've experienced the clement sense for us to adopting these clemency conditions while i'm out on the petition onto the city is and that's why the county budgets almost 8 percent of the country budget is a located west clements. it's a definition how come to government is doing what a project, for example, we haven't really over 1000 in 100 boards. yes. oakridge recently is going to have

people getting water waves lamenting clements most likely cut. so we are going program so and improve improvement of beats. so that kind of clement was seen integrates and click on the county and so many of the visual mm. but you gotta be okay, so let's see what we've had, what government is doing. but when you look at the countries like egypt and as well, you get the sense that we could be doing so much more. a good cause for production, especially in the northern part of the country. you request a lot of investment talking of because we have over 1000 for who's us data to had mentioned both of those really by putting those both in those do by the code to government dealing a boy who is a huge, huge investment because you have to do you have to be quick entity. so said that so many of these bar who's cutting to the do not have as much as a cut into these low to have being bored as puts us in the code to government. our efforts to actually diminished because like,

what more can we do right now other than having my dislike responses, we're hearing a lot about money and investments, and rightfully so. where do we go from here? if the international community does not contribute and we don't have enough money, where do we go next? yeah, that's they, they decided part of this conversation that these economy politics. i'm the, the read realities or the account. in the mid you are going to be a test of the problems we are facing today. unfortunately, i the ones that are holding the light, just a waste of money and resources that we need. and so it's a balance between lifting this money goal according to what we believe and what we gain so much into. so there's no holding miss born investigations that allowed funding issues around climate change ones because people are afraid to move the tradition of the source of power of money in a g, a or these things. but again, coming look on this. so many conflicting interests that needs to be meant that the

governments have grappling with that they come into government is coupling with flip sampling. now what do you do us a call into government for example, for our contract to come, do you go for me to get to commit shows or do you go for a little less thing solutions that we just have to model? so these are the issues that people at any company with i'm that difficult to edwards. i said that we would end up with solutions. and i know some of you already doing things within your various spheres of influence to try and change the situation. let's say your solutions please, as if we meant to be involved in the entire conversation and even in providing solutions in every household that we have a woman not familiar. we have 3 women. if we blocked, if the 3 cheese using the available water, dr. useful domestics use fluid at the end of 3 years and we have more trees in our home, and this will help in improving the photos to cover the number 2. on using the construction

. there is a lot of construction of construction fences using these indigenous feet that takes over 2 years for it to mature. and there is a lot of deforestation taking place contributed by man. because the don't with us selling these things to also helping substituting the households because the, the, the, the customer lives. yeah. because bustle zoom is no longer breakfast or is going extinct because of the defense equipment to conditions we have. so if we come have uh other methods of a building that is by using a cutting of the indigenous fees that are providing for us covering to come accounting. and i think this will help. let me close this conversation by hearing mama's views. i just want to hear from you, and you said earlier, what you would do as a leader, but what do you want from, from the people of can now, what do you want as a whole money to kinda and what can be done by the world to help alleviate the situation that you're in because of climate change, your global down the bottom,

they threw up on that. and then when you do jago, you're going to let somebody with the little apple. i think we have a thing here. but if adult feels hungry and the father is one providing for her, she'll cry when she's hungry, people in what they told the government would help us did. when all animals have died, people are hungry and want to know if we die from hunger. and where will the government get the support and they usually get from us getting that are because of where i'm going to know that i'm not gonna go by the end. i know when i will and the more no, no, no, no, no, i'm gonna it, we need. i don't know, but in a video we do, gonna like to wrap this up. see if there's anybody who has some solutions for me, this is the moment dominique, let's hear from you. we'll have less comments. i'm um. i think one of the things that people need to do is to move these discussions from new york and the voice of

both ends. this is a very big debate to the bus to at least committed this we, we almost hit by the drought. this discussion shouldn't be discussing much to be to do. uh oh we've been very so because it is not just livelihoods that affect it. is it is these, these a huge cultural significance at that time? that's got to have to that you're going to people who did this of molly, people say create operating people. yeah. so i mean if these uh, if they something that a fix that livelihood, then they're kind of sorry. i mean, this is a very, very big problem. so it is a big debate to we are we appealing to the, to the, to the, to the wildly does have to bring this discussion home to where the problem is really, this was never going to be an easy conversation. it's not an easy one globally, it's not an easy one locally. but one thing has come up pretty clearly from my panel here that we need to do more talking and more talking to each other and look at each other. i think the local guys here who joined us today, i think the panel for breathing, the heat and especially thank you for watching the

and i'm sure you've got the message to but i heard the paper officer kind of saying that the conversation about climate change needs to be brought to the people most impacted by this and on. and that is such a new pull to walk ages who had called 27 in egypt, agreed to establish a funds to assist the venerable country is wants to be impacted by climate change. now we wait to see if communities like the turbine and others will benefit from the loss and damage fund. well, thanks for watching. i'll see you next time. well, maybe it was some music now, by the way

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