as israel's prime minister. and so the idea of ground offensive and gaza keeps building up. both these really army and how mos report fierce fighting, especially in the north of the enclave. no seems fire also means that civilian suffering will continue. thousands of thousands have been killed since october 7th, and 8 organizations warrant that with our great or humanitarian access to the strip . these steps could be only the tip of the iceberg. nicole fairly in berlin, and this is the day, the wheel fighting and battle on behalf of the mean time world. java has to become a radio show. israel as a right to defend itself, but how does that man it's, it's a living hell for everyone else. i repeat,

there is no military solution to this confidence. we believe that at least for our right now, benefits we are yet to demonstrate that is to be split and one prove us wrong. the welcome to the show. it is already know the deadliest war. gaza has ever seen. thousands of civilians have died and the 25 days since israel launched as operation against him off terrorist hiding in a vast network of tunnels under the enclave. calls for a humanitarian ceasefire. are falling on deaf ears and as 8 organizations brace for what has yet to come. the idea of ground troops are pushing deeper and deeper into gaza on tuesday and is really air strike hid gauze as largest refugee camp. the military says it was targeting a senior hum us commander. the head of the un has urged all parties to abide by the principles of distinction,

proportionality and for caution. the israel defense forces released footage they say shows its ground troops operating inside the gaza strip. as well, the idea doesn't reveal the location of its forces. locals reports seen tanks and gaza city. and on the road between the north and south of the enclave. these really army reports killing dozens of homeless militants and fierce close quarters. combat with some of the fighting, taking place inside the vast tunnel complex, where a mazda is believed to be holding $240.00 hostages. rescuing the hostages is one of israel stated objectives in gauze. the other is to wipe out time off on the ground and from the skies. this video also from the idea of purportedly shows, the airstrikes that killed a senior from us commander said to be involved in directing the october 7 attacks of israel plants airstrikes or targeting militants and military infrastructure. the

most run health ministry of casa, says the attacks of killed over $8000.00 civilians. the high death toll has led to international calls for a cease fire calls that is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu has dismissed. he says, israel's forces will not stop until hamas is no longer able to govern casa or threatened israel. again. i'm now joined by the w. correspond antonio kramer, who's in there on to, in southern israel, close to the border with gauze. in fact, just moments ago we could see what looked like missiles being intercepted on the horizon there at tony. i'm going to see you could just see that you're safe. the is really military confirmed the attack on bali. what more can you tell us? yeah, that's why they were saying that's basically that they carried out this operation what they describe this operation and to buy a refugee camp. that is a part of in northern dogs, a city basically, and succeeded in killing a homeless commander who was in their words,

responsible for the northern part of the gaza strip and also dozens of other militants. they also said that they are, there was an, as they said, a total system underneath. and that the whole compound or of a building square is taken over as they put it, by how much infrastructure and be heard from i call it housing and goals. and before that, you know, basically there were a lot of presidential of buildings that were collapsing in that and many casualties which we have confirmed from the civil defends in gaza. the israel defense forces report fears, finding the inside like the gaza strip. is this the expected ground? defensive? well, i mean what we can tell you is we've been here all day and we've been as henry of constant bombardment uh on the gaza strip. we are here in state road. this is

facing the noise in gaza strip. so there has been a lot of strikes. uh, also a trailer. we tang far that the business and somehow in the past hours or so here in the evening it became quite intense. what were you seeing a lot of floods or also being uh, shots, uh, a down here. and also as you rightly said, there was a rocket fi again going to it's the center of the country doing the part of the evening. but also in, in the often new now we know reserved from the is rarely army, that they're moving deeper and deeper inside garza, they also some video was released from inside the dogs, us as showing tanks and on sulfur dean street. or we didn't. yesterday, that is a street that goes from one of the main streets in gauze are going from the north to the south. and we understand that some of the ground forces and the tangs are moving in from different locations from the west inside as well, or from where the mediterranean sea is and from the north and also from the eastern

side. but of course, we also heard from the, i mean that there has been heavy, heavy fighting, been going on, the have confirmed the to is where the soldiers were killed. and we also heard from the home, us from the cause some brigades, the military ring of homos, saying that they were involved in heavy fighting. but you know, it's very hard to confirm all of this from here. of course, also the army keeps a very uh, you know, keeps it very tight when it comes to information. what the, letting out as to the details and where the locations exactly all, but certainly this ground operation is going deeper and deeper insight to go. so it's a significant escalation, tony of what are the long term goals of the is really government. they want to the militarize garza. but what happens to the enclave after that? what are the plans for the gaza strip after a moss is? is taken out as they put it well,

this isn't very important question, but um the government hasn't given any answer to that. i mean, the thing, some ideas you know, that has been floating around, but um, so for the, saying the one to eradicate homos. they went to the, in the capabilities notice of loss, but also the other minutes in groups operating in gaza and want to get out the hostages obviously. but we don't know what the envision a long term. and i think also the cousins would like to know what many of them are displaced now from the noise to the south. you know, will they be able to return to their homes or what's left of the homes? of course they have been some, you know, uh military um and the same, you know, that could be uh, of course, long term. uh, occupational administering of the gaza strip. it could be split into 2. how soon are they all kind of scenarios or the policy? no, so or 2, which is a governing a ruling parts of the occupied westbank bring them back. but nothing has been said

really here by the is randy government as to what you know will happen politically afterwards? we also have i'm us leaders of course abroad. yeah, and uh, so what they are saying this would be a very long basically cutting pain and, and bore with it and visioning here many unknowns at this point to w correspondence on your kramer reporting from there. ok, thank you so much and for more we can bring and military analysts. marina ron from kings college moreno, good to see you again. israel says it has sent most of its tags into gaza and they seem to be staying there. so when is an incursion? not an invasion to even the goal. well, it depends on who is looking at this. so from the is this rarely point of view, it will never be an invasion. but from the home office point of view, and perhaps from the post in, in a story these point of view,

it is already an invasion. so in this terminology is very politically leading to and you know, it would have to be very careful because if you use specific terminology to describe the military operation, then your aligning yourself that perhaps unwillingly was one side or another. so it is, um, what it is, this is a military operation to describe it in one neutral terms. however, i don't think that there is a trash hold where you would say that this is not incursion box and invasion. mm hm . so whenever this, this military operation was taken to the next phase is the now the israeli military says it's in phase 2 and is really imposed in internet and communications blackouts on godsa. a. was that to keep information from getting out from coming in or from circulating within gaza or all of the above. maybe. well that,

that's what i was going to say. it's for the all of the above and it is important to control the information space. and this is nothing new and it's been used in the antiquity and m as a famous aphorism goals. the 1st casualty in we're is the treats. and so for both sides, it is important to control the information and environment. now that we have the proliferation of internet, we have social media. so we're not just relying on traditional print media and television. therefore, it becomes much more difficult to control this information space and to populate it was information that is beneficial to your particular site and it's nothing use at both sides. could use facts as well as close foods in order to, to target specific audiences goals domestically. so let's say in the use really case of the domestic population,

but also international actors because of health and traversed hills. this issue is, was ongoing military operation, especially with the strikes. and we'd have seen the best example, where was the strike on the hospital in ga so, and that's where a lot of misinformation started appearing straight away. and it can have a far reaching political and security implications. so for each riley, it was important to control the information, flew out as gasser, as well as in gaza. but from a military perspective, you also want to subvert communications for your adverse 3. so different from us units, perhaps those located in the tunnel and those located somewhere else can communicate amongst the trousers which hampers their ability to resist and to report on the movements of israel forces. so there is a certain military component in that. so for many reasons,

the israel is very keen on controlling the narrative about what's happening and gaza. but how is it working out for them so far to? well, i think it's both sides of truck trying to control the narrative. and it's very difficult to assess which side is actually prevailing, because it depends on who the audience is. and whereas, or is these audiences are convinced of whatever one side says or, and as a side, you have political leadership, you have international organizations such as the, when you also have normal population and learn more population can be a very powerful audience in the west for instance, we have some process um both of those demanding to free palestine wenzelspratt. this can be inside of the similar process can be inside to buy information or rise a misinformation of this information. and as has been shown,

a lot of this information specifically concerning the increased use of generative ai is in the information space. so for a regular person, it is very difficult to discern what is real and what is not specifically because people don't trust that much international media and gathering use from social networks that are poorly regulated, that don't have fact tracking. so whoever is consuming that information is also a victim of so called confirmation bias. so this polarizes society is because i look on, we have the information with which already confirms my very subjective point of view. and that is a huge problem. and it in order to be able to distinguish missing information from the fact it takes time. and also for the media for the journalist, they're press 4 times. they don't have the time to do fact checking. if you have to

bring out the breaking news and specifically in, in, in this conflict, we're a no drawing list can report from god. so it's very difficult to get to the truth. and so you have to rely on those, the videos that are posted. so there is a huge day alignment here. yeah. given all the restrictions on facts, what is your opinion on what israel is trying to achieve militarily in gaza right now? their goals and how they're going about achieving them? well, the military goal is to destroy how mazda completely out, true to the organization. the problem with that is, israel has a very difficult task at hand, because we're talking about urban problem that we're talking about and calm, but in the tunnel system. and it's rarely strikes have not been able to damage it or to damage it enough in order to destroy it. it's very expensive and it's somewhat reminiscent of the bottle of moles,

whereas the stomach state also relied on tunnels. however, their tunnels were much smaller than how mazda is tunnels. so now the, the issue is that there will be casualties and there will be civilian casualties. and the problem is not to lose international support because israel relies on international support from, from the us and from nato countries. and we know that the us has deployed. it's an aircraft carrier in the strike group, the k as well. so it's important to to, to ensure a legitimate military conduct, but it's never possible to 100 percent to avoid civilian casualties, especially insights operations. so in terms of the media and what israel is showing israel is trying to justify whatever they are doing is they are saying a strike killed, so on so many civilians. they will say this strike is justified because we manage

to take out a commander home, off commander. yeah. and the lives of their engines a cam today. i'm sorry, we'll have to leave it there because we're running out of time. but as always, it was great speaking to you though, is marina moran. thank you. thank you very much. among the communities attacks by how mos on october 7th was keyboards busy, the hair is completely destroy picky boots and brutally killed over a 100 of of the residents. one of the families torno parts on that day was the hold on show homes. their home and the agricultural community burned to the ground, and most of the family members went missing. 11 were kidnapped by a mazda, including 3 young children, and an elderly man stocked. they're still being held in gauze though, for members of the family have since been found dead. i know i'm hearts v as

a friend of the family and has been campaigning for their release. she joins me in the studio now. welcome to the w for stuff. do you know anything about how the family is doing? thank you for having me. we have no further new information, unfortunately, every hour and every day that goes by ways to waiting for a sign of life, you're still waiting for any certainty and mostly waiting for them to come now back home. but as you said, we know now the 4 are officially murdered, and 7 are officially accused now and is really national security advisor said today that there is no deal insight for the release of the hostages. how concerned are you about that? you know, i'm a, i'm a medical student, i'm not

a security specialist. i'm not at this moment. of course the families and the friends are every day concerns. you can imagine how it feels when your best friend or your mother or your child is a hostage and help buy from us. so every day that goes by every minute and every hour we are and we are very worried and just waiting for them and, and expect seem for from everyone for all the sides, the international community. and these are in the government. we expect all sides to, to put this at the top of the priority and to end the misery and the suffering and the to bring them back home. now, just as we can, prime minister netanyahu said that releasing the hostages was this number 2 priority. so how does that make you feel as someone who you know is, is so concerned about this entire family missing?

as i said, i'm, i'm not the us national security special america. i'm, i'm a medicine student and i'm a, this is the closest town around she's, she's my dear friend. i know her for 10 years. we work together the n g o. she established her life mission was to solve their hunger problem in africa, and to help us most farmers to develop agriculture into games security. she, she's, she's always being an inspiration for me. she's all her family are, you know, just amazing people, humanitarian aid workers, peace activist. it's. it's been through a long, it's been too long. it's almost a month. we just, we just needed to and we just need them home. no. and you've been even bringing

that message to a lot of people over the past days. you've been incredibly strong touring several countries and, and trying to, to rally people to, to get on board with us. cause to get the hostages released. how if people responded to, to your please? i would say that's us everyone. we met square very in patrick. we spend one hour with the president telling me said we met by minister of what's that we missed president mcculla. we met the whole new parliament. the list is so long. we met so many people from all parties. i feel that we had their hearts going out to us. and they truly respect their supports for now, as i said, the families need actions. the family. if somebody cannot say, tell me more and they need their loved ones back. know what kind of action and,

and what are you asking for specifically coming here because there are a lot of us citizens among the kids. not people in that family use. we believe this is an international issue, as you said, many of the hostages or with 4 and manage analyses. and not only that, and we, we know that europe is our ho for this humanitarian issue. so we really expect them to, to put this as a top of the top of the priority into years older, to older diplomatic, through everything, everything to andrew today. now as far as are concerned, you know that, that is already happening. are there of things going on behind the scenes that maybe you were assured of that they're doing what they can to get the irish that

they would know more details, as all the families wish to know more details. but as you know, how these things work, and it's very hard to get to really information and really insight about any negotiation and anything that's going behind the scenes. but the only thing that i can say is that we have hope and we have experts expectations of them. and we, i really want to believe this every one to 3 months didn't only meet us that day. and i, i really think i from the people that we met, they gave us a huge supports and i believe that they are doing whatever they can uh, on their, you know, things with kind of be said. but we urge them not to forget them. these are our people, these are our families, this, there,

this is not numbers. this is real people. you just got here to berlin. what's, what's next for you? where are you going to meet? who are you hoping to be able to speak to and convey that message to so when the negation of the german hospices family was already here on the 2nd week of the war . and we're now arranging your secondary legation and i'm here for this as well as long as it takes to meet with the any diplomats or any anyone that is in a position to help us. and especially sweet 1st we need even the basic stuff, assign of life and to know that their health and human a terry in terms these are basic stuff that we still don't have any starts and see about. i know it's a very complex, complex situation, but i really,

i really, really wish for anyone not to being this choose never, this is every minutes every hour that goes. is there a fine? yeah. i really hope that your voice is heard. thank you so much for for having the strength to come here and, and all the best to you and your friends and your costs. thanks. thank you. sonya ravia is on track to host the 2034 mens football world cup. australia has pulled out of the bidding. saudi arabia is now the only candidates to become host nation. campaigners say the sound the government is using heavy investment in football, a so called sports washing to divert attention from human rights violations in the country. and before we go,

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