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the season should be freeze. it'd be celebrating some have amazing hotels on the beach. they have amazing beaches. there have been there multiple times. they should have amazing agriculture. they should have amazing things come us and slamming she had, are responsible for. what does that is now? in 2005, when we left, there were a lot of factored culture tourism, the infrastructure. they've destroyed everything and went to work with us. i hope now after this they and we will help them read. busy this to really build an area where we can live together in a synergistic relationships, both economic and tourism and whatever. and the build the great to 2 states for the 2 people. thank you very much. thank you. to stay to arrangement has been touted as a solution to the long run and conflict between israel and the palestinians. it was suggested that the you and in the late fourties and just last week us president joe biden reiterated his support for it. so what exactly is the 2 state solution and
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what are the challenges around its implementation chairs? a quick explain a, the dictates of violence and occupation. how could they end an independent palestinian state alongside israel has long been considered. the solution today the palestinian territories are largely under is really controlled. a palestinian state would mean full sovereignty and the end of his really occupation, the promise self determination for the palestinians and security for his release, who had long contended they lived under constant threat of terrorism and attacks. here are 3 of the big problems around 700000 is really settlers live in the west bank and east jerusalem illegally. according to the un and international law, it's difficult to imagine them leaving without resistance. then
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there is jerusalem. israel has annex the eastern part of the city. it hosts both judy isms, holy as side. and the 3rd most important side for islam is railways and palestinians claim the cities their capital and reject ideas like international control. 30 years ago, there was at least the will to try and get over those problems. but the peace efforts were undermined by extremists on both sides. violence made new talks impossible. so the crucial problems remained unsolved. after years of occupation, many terrorist attacks and retaliatory strikes only a minority of israelis and palestinians continued to believe in the 2 state solution. since the hum off terrorist attack on october 7th, 2023. it seems further away than ever. how modest mentions the controls, the gaza strip, while the father led by listing in a puddle,
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data runs the west bank. both parties have been arch rivals. and some us violently hosted. felt that from the gaza strip after winning elections, that in 2006. finally, the boss is recognizing domestically as president of the finest and in the polity. but recently, as his legitimacy has been increasing, the question at home is the largest executor palestinian political party. it's also the driving force of the palestine liberation organization or p l. o. the umbrella group internationally recognized as representing the palestinian people, the current pillow chairman as far as leader me to boss. he's also the president of the palestinian authority which governs parts of the occupied westbank. much of the palestinian authority doesn't govern guys of the as mr. milliken group thomas took over and guys after 2006 elections and kicked 5 times out of the territory.
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mahmoud abbas was one of the activists who helped form santa at the end of the 1950s. initially it focused on militant the opposition to be as riley government. however, in the 1985 to i'll shifted towards diplomacy. former found that leader and piano chairman yasser arafat became an important player in the oslo accords. this was a piece deal signed between israel and the palestinians that proposed a 2 state solution to still supports this and recognizes the state of israel on like come us, such as vision is an independent pilot. stein made up of the west bank east jerusalem. and the guy's a, this is based on the board is established after the 6 day war in 1967. but there's been little progress on that front which has led to frustration among palestinians . nonsense. israel military occupies the west bank and to next to east jerusalem. many are losing faith in the fight to controlled palestinian authority. they see
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the pa as completed in the occupation and reject it to legitimacy. there's also uncertainty over the policy me and they'll start as future it's aging leader lock. we'd have boss was elected in 2005 to a 4 year term of elections have not been held since his party fighter has also been dealing with in fighting over who his successor should be pursued. frustration has led to palestinian seeking alternatives. i also, in recent times, how about assessing arise and support? this is adding to the pressure on 5 to 9 questions reminding over the role that will play as the israel high mass war rages in gaza. and the joining me now for more is doctor a week, a break from between these rarely institute for regional foreign policies. dr. kemp break. welcome. i have one basics question for you and that is, this is the 2 state solution. dead concise on.
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so no, not dead. on the contrary now, even, and there is no paternity to, to revive. if you're talking about reviving it, i mean you're talking about reviving it. the cool has to take the 1st step here to try and revive it. and how does this revival a as well, it is a wish to terminate the some us ruling casa, the only one who can take responsibility over the kaiser, which is not the easily and force would be to understand themselves and the interest of israel and of the police being and so the more direct one is that the personnel store day or any other moderate student leadership would take the responsibility of augusta. the only way a moderate by the stand with enter gas and take responsibility and gain a legitimate ation. if it becomes,
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it comes with up of the state and state recognized by the state in state at the end of the process. so there is an opportunity. now if you wish to terminate a muscle uh to revive the 2 state policy, it to state solution. that's a big step and i know that that's what the state of aim of the is there any operation in gaza is. but what you're basically saying to me is that a must 1st needs to go and then a monitored by listing and leadership takes the space in the gaza strip. and then potentially one hasn't. is there any one has a finest thing inside that one can talk to example joe essentially saying to me, actually not exactly because what i would like to say is that you cannot terminate thomas rule over the gaza strip. or anyway, tell me if i'm off for as a to hr organizations without, as a political solution diplomatic solution at the end of it,
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you cannot do that. the only way to terminate come us rule over guys. i'm and it's, and it's frank also in the, in the westbank is by proposing and those tennessee and the old tentative at the end of it at the end of the process is a viable palestinian state who recognizes the fixed israel and wish to live side by side, okay. you know that i've been kind of sort of, there is a criticism within an answer and already alpha, a prime minister netanyahu his government and particularly that he's got one has taken the steps to while, let's say i, the side step the tuesday afternoon or not. but stewart in with as much bigger as potentially people might have expected that to happen. if that has been the record sofa walk lead you to believe that from the is really side please. under this government, there will be a pursuit of the 2 states understand well,
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uh the description is right now is government chose to manage the conflict and the even distractions from us in order to not to pursue the 2 state solution in order to hendrick. so this current government to visual would not be the one who would promote a political solution. it would not pursue any kind of 2 state solution. that's it would have to be all the forces in the, in the arena to promote it. the national community, united states, that is all new friends in the, in the neighborhood from saudi arabia, all right, egypt, jordan or government in israel. otherwise, no, you cannot take say, expect that from nothing else government but doesn't. a lot of this depend on how the content is there any campaign in gauze runs as to what measures its success and what ultimately happens to the how must be in to ship it does. currently,
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these are the government pushed aside and it kind of discussion about the day after that you cannot even measure the success of the companion. does that because you don't know where you want to go. so if you don't know where you want to go, how can you measure what you do and how can you, besides, if what you're doing is, is the right thing to do. so, 1st you have to decide where you want to go. and then you can measure if you, if you want to treat successful or not. uh and these are the situation now. so it's, it's hard to met to imagine. and to think if what you're doing is effective. if you don't know what you want to achieve at the end, how much support is there within the, is there any public to pursue the 2 state solution given the atrocities and the harder on that we have witnessed on the 7th of october?
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well, it how it is hard to know because now everyone is shaking, but also a consensus. well, bear with me since i have been shaken as well. so if you haven't the political actors who push the narrative and explain these only public that in order to fight from us in order to terminate his willing guides and everywhere you have to have at the end of the listing in functional strong state side by side the next to is all, then it is something that the easily public would be able to see because that way, but you have to have and you have to have an actors that promote this narrative and otherwise and, and it would be hard to convince these republics to go to such avenue,
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think such happen. we live at the, the for the timing, but thank you so much for joining us to the doctor. and we can break from admitting . thank you sir. you thank you for inviting and that's it. so now there's continuing updates on biggest rel, i'm also on our website. i'm going to expand to jayden billy, and thanks very much for watching the
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is it the, the, the news why from finding another strike on causes biggest refugee camp means more casual faced in egypt, valley breakfast, tennessee. just a day after israel says takes care of a senior harmless commander and a previous attack on the comp. also in the program. because seriously injured costumes and foreign nationals are allowed into egypt, but it's unclear how long the roster border crossing will remain open. and sweden cracks down on a search pink gun, cried dw reports on how young people are being drawn into a cycle of violence.
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