that we are all set and we're watching closely. we all seem to bring you the story behind the news. we roll about unbiased information all 3 months. done the this is dw news africa coming up on the program ramos from germany for its colonial era atrocities. but is that enough to atone for the damage done a gesture from germany's president during a visit to times in the asking for forgiveness for these countries. brutal actions in its former colony also coming up 3 generations on and the pain is still felt intends in the among the families of those the germans killed. they tell us best stories at a project bridging past and present in

a push for both justice and public awareness on germany's bloody colonial past. the i'm told me, alrighty, well, welcome to the program. or this week, germany's president frank volta stein might have visited times in the a, on a trip that has highlighted calls for accountability for his country's brutal past in africa. german colonial rule in what's now times in the lasted for just over 30 years, up until the end of the 1st world war. the berlin conference of 1885 was a major point in the coming up of the african continent by european powers. germany went on to declare colonies in west africa as well as in german east africa, which covered the mainland areas of what's now attends in the barone. d rolanda and

a small part of mozambique the germans brucely suppressed resistance by the african subjects that germany's president frank volta stein might have visited the town of some yeah, in southern times india, which is named after some game by no one of the leaders killed by german colonialists, the leading resistance. the town was a major flash point in the magic maggi uprising and the early 19 hundreds. it's the german presidents stood for several minutes at the graves of the $66.00, my g, my g 5 to have that lead us and national hero. some of them by now they were all hanged here by the gym. and colonial rule is it's a historic moment and the recognition of guild for one of the greatest crimes in jam and is colonial history. up to 300000 people. died in the

month to month. the war for now, you can me put an up from the dodson killed on ya. hi val, before the victims of gym and colonial rule arts. and as jim and his federal president, i want to ask for forgiveness for what jim and state your full fathers for 5, and i'm good time for his more. i want to assure you that we, gentlemans, will, together with you need to look for answers to the um, result, questions that home to you seen and kind of who would, i think is the 1st time a jim and head of state has recognized the colonial crimes in such clear terms, stimulus and cold gentleman, east, africa. the africans rose up against exploitation and brutal tyranny. portfolio was one of the bloodiest colonial was. many people died of hunger because the german colonial troops in the fields to deprive the people as

a livelihood. crimes that are recorded in some gas mole museum. each new generation can learn what happens here. behind closed doors, president stein my, i met defendants of national hero. some guy peach vice basic was the last time aware of the great that. and he said, still places on your people today did some more anguish. he closes his family is on, and i said, how deeply the pain of his death and of how he was murdered, he spelled to this day. the mazda bought out quite enough is kind, i understand that this cruel deed has left its mark on many generations. if p like another kind continues to echo and your families on the side to india on sunday and for the the germans. broad hundreds of us goes to europe, full circle research, a racist endeavor. today they are stored in gym and museums,

getting them back is particularly important to the defendants. president stein my problem is to do all he can to ensure that some gas go is found under to actually, is that what it may send it to our customers? to battery everything and to do our morning deal we're we're not and drying. if we're doing we're doing the battery. i wasn't good. how are the developments then? the president's apology is a big moment for the relatives. they say moved. this is really after you get to the healing to our community, bundle and get a hold of a minute of some debt. so we are good for any of the sun. my eyes visit

is also and did raising awareness in gym and they were the crimes in the form of gym and east africa, largely for going into the feelings arden dodson. this my message to you is the jim and he stands ready to address the pos together name, and so no one is to the gas. what happened back then? i must be seen, and my great hope is not good, especially young people will get involved in the dressing of the cars together, the school children and students and scientists in the museum style from the business of the business of the muslims load, the tough to steinman his visits and his words of reconciliation tens and that in germany may now find it easier to come to terms with the shed puts together and at the same time strength and co operation for a better future. katya coil is minister of state, germany's foreign office, and she travelled with the german president. dw is catalina, cruel, also with

a stein lines. pledges were enough. the problem is that we'll do every thing to try to find the human remains. he did not promise that we can do it because it is typical. we already tried some we are, we haven't tried every spring. so we are continuing this work with all our institutions at museum. and without being able to promise a success, we'll promise to do everything that's possible. to finally bring back the answers just depends on, you know, where they belong. yeah, many germans don't know anything about this part of german history. how can that be improved? well this, this wizard and this, this question was asked the president, asking for forgiveness will also be pardoned telling in germany what has happened here. so this is our responsibility to make this more known also in history classes in schools. so that is very important to the tons of meetings to

the families, and it's our duty and where there are many uh, now address the question of reparation. like we did with a oh nama, and uh now maybe. uh well, what we do is we listen to the terms on young people. we listen to the families to the defendants. what are they on needs? what do they want? and they didn't mention this to in our talks with them. so they have some needs and we'll walk on that. what they think is necessary to hear these wounds. but so far we didn't, they didn't talk about reparations. and that's the color. thank you very much. but germany also committed colonial era crimes before and after the magic maggi war in the north. maggie mary king of the chunk of people that a resistance against the germans who then publicly hand him his is one of several

skulls believed to be in germany today. charles columbia reports from moshi in northern pennsylvania, where the grandchildren of mind, the 1000000 other leaders still on a quest for justice. the tone is mostly on the slopes of mount katy montero is home to the chat about tripe easily. a man is one for that was monday. many need of the check that when the for the gym on the corner of these bachelors, several years later, the gym is 100000000 of those thinking do are going to rebel again. they took several calls back to jen, money bug, you made it then go a bundle. i look a bit what you see me, what was done to monkey may lead to me and my family. we are not such aside. leave it to people who don't have a few into our lives. well, but degree lucille, there's the, wasn't normally that dental now. high school was an extra of great violence that

was done to ask me if i do, i do a minor and that is why we have not lived in peace all these years. these museum toes, mind humanities, tory is leadership of the child, the tribe, and his rebellion against the gym. others, the fact that the human is not only executed him, but to be headed. human to kids come to berlin. miss n o grave will not be an option if any of this code is returned to them or would you have decided that after it's return, this call will not be buried in the ground because this party was not legally buried to goes, but it was laid to rest, without proper rights for the wind, where he was late above, he cannot be seen by the new quote as well for the godaddy. what. how will go therefore, we believe his spirit is not a piece to them well and we are looking at a place where he will become a rated global club up above. we had to buy the vehicle high 1000000 used to own

all of these land here. as he was chief of the cha good shape. it is not owned by his grandson and he's generations that trade there was where the gym and coordinators is high. him and 18 others. what does that mean to is when side that was i'm on those killed. here he's go is all saying jim, i need it. do you need to has confirmed the relationship to it was more than just this call. he also wants composition player to non profit of kind of we request that the 10s in the, in government take a firm stance to ensure that the german government pays us. if the government maintains both in some level, we could be paid even today, i think is the re uh when to jim i need to take it in a test. betsy's or officials there or not find this color we feelings. he's 50 year old site to find his grandfather's remains and bring them home, continues so

following the gym and presidents visit attends, and e a and his play for forgiveness for what the germans did to some gambino in the match. imagine war. we off people in doris with them. what they thought about this gesture. so security a funds that for so let me see what was that he considered it sounds because he's just one of 90 presidents who've been empowered since that time. a for now that's commendable. the can you recognize the importance of this wizard and a speaking forgiveness for what happened in the past. one is that, i mean this will strengthen our relationship with them and also help us with those kinds of me and when they might have faith in working with them. so we're on development of them. i didn't know if i knew the yes a fall is what i me or just she was young that the president gears on movies. okay . i have a hard 80 and nothing. no initial also wants to. it just sounds great. yeah. and establish a good relationship between 10 video and germany. we've got to get them signed me up and we'll, you know, do my municipal thank so head suffering the hearts of to speak to us. yes,

you come directly affected by these prevents who soft in the strain, lose the good relations fulfill missouri and a hickey. i'm about out of the lucky name of the money all through and give me cool . i think like she has apologize for going to get the one but the desires of many people the power to hear what will follow after the apologize. 24th is a normal because they only put because people have been waiting to hear. and i think that they will receive adequate compensation. a couple of wind up, hopefully you don't mind. definitely the people lost their loved ones, usually homeless and families hire mind. so as he mentioned that when he returns to germany, he will provide answers to the money who will be political for me to do money on was it that would be sure to pick it up then? yeah, i believe the government will issue has been it should follow up even on what those answers entail. come i have enough. i you, they not just returning the remain is gonna, but also compensating the victims of those of this proposal. and i'll come up with the i see as something good. and also is something to be proud

of. a story. yeah. because from what we learned in history, glory, those events were not good when you still there taking the responsibility to come to us and seek for justice is the truth. and is terms and means we're proud of it and have seen it as an active honor because it's something that happened in the past. but now they have remembered it and decided to come and go and seek forgiveness level any. so can you mind i can say, well ma'am, so how exactly all the events on the gym and colonial rule. remember today in terms of the i asked nancy will show her a times in, in his story and lecturing at the university of doris along department of archaeology. and heritage studies, you know, there is always an official narrow to, it's almost new. sure. so these 2 actually ought to get back. whereas you find the

mission celebrates the, there's a gym on colonial, easy, and then coming so that they faced as a nationally things on there who wants to be defended. so big country is inc. i'm not sure who informed me this suspicion and in small communities. so the agencies or individual these agencies celebrate a memory the encounter of the big him on june 26 from the national plus 50 no much any big city is very much small american title, new york because it seems and cheese. what did you say to the resistance and who led the people by the to get the agencies of other people such as women and children. and you find the as are we are also part of this a resistance. some of them took you to a women like some money,

it was too hot that might, you might be reach for. and so i did some get into design setting to a big resistance. he got to stuff tend more than any. i've got other areas. so the initial is plus 50 as a den job old, put the wrong information into a 60 books i to assign to it as a national story. but when you go to the big, deep down in families in the small groups, you find that the not too big is different. these is, you know, is into drawings. i remember these adults are very that's why you find a new such as that to me is on the list of the heroes in the lanes of the much, much as he says, oh ha ha. in the play. so the only thing it did, the initial this, that's the money to encounter the, the only, you know, that's as montauk participated in that might, you might be of assistance in some, there is no way up to the font and these same people don't

appear to have been the focus of the german presidents visit 2 times in the i do sense of a missed opportunity that. ringback i feel like there is a missed opportunity so badly because you've been into solving times any age. so into some gap, cities or the disease of what the president as address and what the president hospital type res. so it is easy to some get has no mentioning of any of that. so say i choose what that to fix it, you're talking of. so i get on the she all been going me. so again, was just as sub cheap and as one of the people you're gonna be present at you of numerous, it's either way he quoted it, it might, you might be resistance, some of them are gonna be for you and some stuff. and so it's the app which is the

gym on, in terms of asking for forgiveness has been complicated. so when i look at these, for instance, in the case of not maybe it was i not one or 2. and then there is time. when i look at it in terms of the of nigeria, it was the tunnel, the, the new rules. i don't see anywhere with the apology was templates. and when you come to terms, i think it's fine. and no me, no mention specifically for them going me was leaving out as a trustee to set me up for me to. and so you'll see that this is more like if we need to pull political agenda of i need to we to really a approach the past and fluids towards the future that can be collaboratively as it is bestbuy it, me one subject. when talking about this whole issue has been, uh, the, the skulls that of these, um, some of these people that were taken away to germany, costs of the way by the german colonialist. there's obviously

a personal connection for the descendants of these, uh, these people. what can you help us understand the cultural significance to these people of having the skulls returned? what does this actually mean to them? as it's i know it was of this cost to speaking a we've the cheats that's not fitted by a team of human remains in the country of japan for see it didn't because the i just that is this day the new bill is due to my ties it's, it's the drawn children of the, of the victims or, or would you mind colonial, easy. so you find that the families have a new box piece that cool conflicts, but some of them i suppose to leave, but i'll wait for the mantel for my demand with these crimes you have for me to wish you remember that he's a, he's

a i trusted using gene we have dining property. some of the children in gun changing we are supposed to be not send is when these crimes we are committed. and so these extra need to get them. so my expense that if i'm you like that's of sodium, bind, odd to me from the location, from the homes to about 40 kilometers. i'll wait to find a new home in this type of ship. the average did stay and so you find it done up to today that the families asked the concept leaving the land that's a lot they own. in these we have probably needs people in this website because they, we have cheese. we have a choice. now we have 2 professions, enough, we've got a very descriptive, especially with the actual significance or so that's, that's do i is the in 6 it into them. the 5th of a, the king and the looting of the cartridge is not on the,

into this car in the original of buying the did that these important to anyone was died. you said 5 you is is required, but it is also the associated objects. and these 2 cultural professions, especially the batch of a cheap, and that's a very short east in but that's how much of that to a new to with 2 instruments. that's what i use for the 40 horse. yes, yes. and for this type of human to this, how long you owe this society. and some of this was the claim that the i've never seen bees because of the absence of these, to the absence of the my remains in the absence of the actual chips. okay. nancy richard har at times in, in his story and thank you for speaking to us. now, part of the fight for justice has also been the campaign for continued

investigations into what happened in colonial times and to educate people both in times and here. and here in germany, that's at the hearts of an ongoing exhibition in berlin, which is focusing on the missing human remains and looted onto the fax from times in the, in a call for very pots ration i went to have a look. it's a mobile research project that's involved putting on displays to audiences intends in the getting the verbal and autistic responses and adding them to the exhibition . it's called marriage, issue, swahili for return, or restitution. the focus is on the brutality of colonial rulers and what was gym and east africa, and the artifacts and human remains. they took away with them, or one of the lead researches and curators of the project he's been yak out. so room borrow. he's dedicated decades of his life to campaigning for clarity about

germany's colonial past and for justice, for the defendants of the victims. talking to this, what we went to that, you know, like you could museum here in building we selected 20 objects, photographed them. when progressing museum, the live site also we selected for you objects and you also went to the museum in to, to got and also with 50 point objects. there. we found also in the archives some photographs of some of the cubes and the people at home. they didn't know how this chiefs did. you look like before they're way ahead because most of them

were and the team found out that the lou to the items that were brought to germany did not only serve as trophies of war. the germans, they took us, we have for science, so we black and decker. we have another issue. it was time with before i had put them. now, what do you think? even the animals are even better than we are. and also this shows when you go to the shelves where this human remains the heads up, would there be a headset or use that would just cause you find it. you'll find it there may have to do with this cause of monkeys. coupons is borderline or i know that i saw on the sherry tay is germany's largest and oldest university teaching hospital. this was the destination for human remains from german colonies around the world, including tons and the brought to you for racist scientific research. now over a 100 years later,

it's taking the work of scientists prompted by activists. so identify the all regions of these body parts. so they can return home the statements. but only some of these items have been found and identified. active as the pushing for a continued investigation. and for an open, an honest conversation about germany's brutal actions and its former colonies, a topic most germans know nothing about as well. that's it for now. but be sure to check out other stories on dw, to com. forward slash advocate on facebook, and each, you know, communities and families affected by german colonialism. have long been remembering . van lost family members generalist ramona's. lights was at the maggi maggi war heroes festival last february and she sent us these impressions of the ceremonies. we'll see you next time, bye for now. the

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