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to starts november 8th on dw, the this is dw, and use my from the, in a deadly strike on a school in northern gauze up, the un says thousands of displaced dawson's with sheltering inside the school buildings. i didn't tens outside also the us restates support for humanitarian pulses in the fighting. but the secretary of state anthony blinking says the supply, i would only allow how much the militants to be group and reassurance for ukraine that it has not been from boston. the chief,
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also left on the line price is ukraine's political and economic progress. despite the will with crane and fox, it's good for you membership the monica jones. welcome to the program. the united nation says a school it runs in northern garza has been hit spine as strike. the number of casualties is not yet clear. the un agency helping refugees and the region says thousands of displaced palestinians where sheltering and the school buildings. israel's military has not yet commented, but says it will allow more evacuations to the south. the aftermath of his bailey strikes the hit, the united nations going to school. it's about it. yeah. in northern gaza.
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we were sitting here. people were preparing breakfast. someone to big bread girls were sitting here peacefully. suddenly they were strikes one after the other. i rushed here to check on the 2 girls i found one martyred into capitated and the other wounded. i move the body with my own hands. i swear to god. i carried a body in my hands, garza's house ministry, which is controlled by him. us said, at least 15 people were killed and this attack been more than 9400 dead in the bung documents, sofa, ported out by his while hundreds of thousands of fled from the north to the southern part of the territory. as well as military say's its forces are now also carrying a grand operations in the south. the video is released do not specify locations. there's no s seemingly safe palestinians,
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if phone possible it's have been trying for days to lead to the route for crossing into egypt for this week. for the 1st time, several 100 right. allowed out new i i'll had that. who holds? australian citizenship was one of them. he arrived safely and kind of a it's a big relief, a personally and even among the other citizens you could actually tell from their faces. but the concern to us they're like leaving everything behind well believe to be safe. many are concerned for the nearly 2000000 people left behind in the besieged, gaza strip. dw has been facilitating this our correspondents in jerusalem, and he gave us more details about the strikes. a sports person from the u. n. agency confirmed that this is one of the camps that there were people sheltering
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there in the tense, in the school yon, which was hits a whole new or close to a world of the school was also here with the brand was being baked early in the morning. the spokesperson couldn't confirm whether or not how much the activity is in the area. well, the idea of has it, though, is that they have been extensive exchanges in the area over the last 2 days. this is the trip all the a refugee camp which we reported on earlier in the week. it had been hit twice in air strikes. the idea is ready. defense forces confirming that it has taken out key commanders and combatants in the tunnels that collapsed under the strikes. but the civilian death toll here has been. hi, monica. mm. and then what about the many palestinians that are still stuck in besiege gas, a city, a more of them getting out now? well, there was a chance for them, according to the israeli defense forces. today they said that they opened
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a humanitarian kartel between one and 4 pm to allow them to leave kansas city, which is not the siege of the moment the entire territory. the gaza strip is under a full blockade right now. but this humanitarian card will have be created and this is where the soldiers was securing the area, but it's released video evidence now of them being attacked by homeless combatants . saying that this is the proof that hamas is trying to hold these people back, use them as human shields and prevent them from making choices of their road. a lot though must be said or afraid about moving to the south because these radio strikes continue in that area and been uh, stay with us. uh because uh let's just listen to you a secretary of state anthony blink and has been speaking to arab leaders in jordan . he's again calling for let's out in the fighting. that's listening to have to look out for each other. we have to look out for every industry life. now the
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united states believes that all of the these efforts would be facilitated by humanitarian pauses. we believe pauses can be a critical mechanism for protecting civilians for getting 8 in, getting far nationals out. while still unable to israel to achieve its objective to defeat, i'm us. returning to ben facility in jerusalem, then what's your take on what you've just heard? the also the press conference given how much pressure there is such a humanitarian pause as well. i just gave you an example from the id guess at least where these humanitarian car, those don't function on the, the how much controlled gaza strip. israel, though, is not interested in any humanitarian polls unless old hostages are released by how much. now there is even more pressure coming from the arab states and further abroad for a complete ceasefire that has no chance,
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according to israel. and according to the us secretary of state, who said that how much would simply be given the opportunity to recruit and even repeat the october 7 attacks saying that israel has every rights and obligation, he said today to defend itself. and that israel must also ensure that how must cons, repeat those attacks, right? dw, spend facilitating the reporting for us from jerusalem. then thank you so much. let's cross over now to marina new on the military analyst of kings college london. but you joins us now in unit good to have you with us. marina let stops us to full with those reports of is really strikes, hitting a shelter for displaced people at a you when school on friday of course is meant also struck. an ambulance con boy, which it says was caring. how must fighters, when do some of them? so please your monitoring locations become legitimate military targets. a good
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evening monica. well, that's an excellent question because the international humanitarian law is very clear on that. and also the geneva conventions such targets. so hospitals, schools and all sorts of civilian targets are under protection and both sides in the whole story. these have to respect to these targets have to be clearly marked when for instance, um air rates are conducted during nights. so that they are not targeted, however, they lose their production if they are being used for military purposes. that being sad, even in that case, the side targeting still has to prove that they're being used for military purposes . and the idea is that the adverse and we should keep affording, to, let's say you how much should give a warning to the idea that this hospital is going to be useful military purposes. but it is very difficult if only one side is sticking to the national level,
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which might ease of waters. and of course, from the east, fairly perspectives they still have to think about proportionality. does the collateral damage is excessive in comparison to the military advantage that they are shaving through targeting. so it is very complex and it needs more data and mutual parties to assess these situations on the ground, whether it was the right to target those targets or was it a indeed, a violation of international? well uh we also just heard from our correspondent, uh that it was saying how about the attack is really forces this they were opening the call. we don't to allow civilians from north to south that this could be a case of homeless trying to keep published. indians in the north as human shields, and what you just said, basically that would basically mean that the cost of the noise would be used in some military way and would lose protection. but that is a, as a very grace own the gray area we're talking about with that. well, absolutely,
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because it's very difficult and, and, and that's the difficulty if you are fighting and the regular adverse re who is not respecting international humanitarian little you still have to respect to international humanitarian law, even if you're adverse or he does not, which makes it very problematic, and in this case the siege of cause a city, the fact that civilians cannot escape. of course, for hallmarks it's important to keep as many civilians as possible in ga. so in order to make it more difficult for the east road forces to conduct here operations, because it is a huge obstacle, and unfortunately there will be collateral damage. the question is the extent of this collateral damage and what kind of international reaction might follow, right? i'm gonna read not just us to also look at a possible change of tactics because there are reports that us officials expect
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israel to reduce its aerial attacks and the gaza strip in the coming days to focus more on ground operations. how would you interpret such a change in tactics? it was there is a lot of pressure from the united states right now. well, the 1st was for, for, for a short seas higher perhaps. but for reduction. imperial attacks, specifically because of the humanitarian prizes that that is getting bigger and bigger every day. and i think uh from the very you, from the east really point of view from the military point of view. their operations are very important for them in order to, to reduce the military capabilities off hallmarks, militants, and they're all so as a groups fighting on the ground. so i think and maybe say will reduce the error strikes because many targets, according to these fairly side have already been struck. however, i seen that we will not see any and removal of the air component. things are
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seeing the error environment will continue to support ground operations in order to be able to use old domains as to we can come off and finally eliminate from us, which is the military aim of the idea. defense analyst, marina me, around this. thank you so much. thank you for having me. you're paying commission president was left on the line is to recommend an additional $50000000000.00 euros of 8 for ukraine. she's been in, keeps holding talks with ukraine's president florida. mister landscape from the lions says ukraine has made excellent progress towards meeting the conditions to join the european union. at the pest con frenchie price, ukraine's progress, despite the will with russia, but still landscape struck a more cautious note. i want to tell you how impressed we are by the reforms you've made in the midst of the war. you should never forget, you are fighting and the suspension of war. and at the same time,
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you're deeply reforming your country. you have reached many milestones, reforming your justice system, curbing the on the docs, good, tackling money laundering, and much more the none of those comments would you say complete the war in the middle east is taken go by the focus, or is the school for the rights law, i believe this is one of the goals of russia, the they understood they will be less focused on new cuz i was not crazy. you know, we'll just make you, chris presidents of lensky, is that an hour corresponded in keith much. the spinning out tells me more about those talks or ever leave to come see you frank talks about the war and that the moment um, i think there are concerns here and ukraine just heard it from presidency lensky and this so sound bites. that's um uh,
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ukraine. might be forgotten over the war in gaza. ukraine is dependent on support by its western allies, um and uh, with the, with the movement at the front. he's been also off with it. this is a stalemate. that's a, a, an impression that the come onto. busy the forces as given an interview recently, and he said he does not see a stalemate, and he is not ready to negotiate any thoughts on any parts of the inquiry with the rest of the happy and also media reports, but as well pressuring ukraine to agree to some kinds of talks with russia and not knowing whether there's any readiness for tools in russia and seeing that russia is preparing for a long war. he has refuted this and he probably would also, or surely he would not have the support of the people here in the frame. if he were
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to try to negotiate on any on any piece that would include your crazy seating territory and wonder life has supported him in this position, the dw, as much as spelling. that's all the news for now, coming up next report. so looking at how you arrive, as in germany, have to deal with its notorious bureaucracy. i'm going to jones for me and the team, thanks for watching the emotions category issues with a lot say well, the fast.
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