in 45 minutes on d, w. well then progress pop calls to everyone who wants to know more about this topic. the 2nd son of good about this story is beyond the headline world in progress. the w cost cost this is dw news africa coming up on the program ramos from germany for its colonial era atrocities. but is that enough to atone for the damage done a gesture from germany's president during a visit to times in the asking for forgiveness for his country's brutal actions in its former colony. also coming up 3 generations on and the pain is still felt intends in the among the families of those the germans killed. they tell us best

stories at a project bridging past and present in a push for both justice and public awareness on germany's bloody colonial past. the, until me. alrighty. well, welcome to the program. this week, germany's president frank volta stein might have visited times of nea on a trip that has highlighted calls for accountability for his country's brutal past in africa. german colonial rule in what's now times in the lasted for just over 30 years, up until the end of the 1st world war. the berlin conference of 1885 was a major point in the coughing up of the african continent by european powers. germany went on to declare colonies in west africa as well as in german east africa,

which covered the mainland areas of what's now attends in the burgundy, rolanda and a small part of mozambique. the germans brucely suppressed resistance by the african subjects that germany's president frank volta stein might have visited the town of some yeah, in southern times india, which is named after some damn bottle. one of the leaders killed by german colonialists, the leading resistance. the town was a major flash point in the magic maggi uprising and the early 19 hundreds. it's the gym and presidents stood for several minutes. so the graves of the $66.00, my g, my g fighters and the lead us and national heroes. some of them by now they were all hanged here by the gym and colonial rulers. it's a historic moment and the recognition of guild for one of the greatest crimes in

gem and is colonial history. up to 300000 people. died in the month to month. the war for now, you can me put an up from the dodson cold on ya. hi, val, before the victims of german colonial rule. tonight, as jim and his federal president, i want to ask for forgiveness for want jim and state your full fathers for 5, and i'm good time for his more. i want to assure you that we, gentlemans will, together with you miss. look for answers to the result, questions that home to you seen and kind of who else is the 1st time a gym and head of state has recognized the colonial crimes in such clear to stimulus named cold gentleman, east africa. the africans rose up against exploitation and brutal tyranny on followed was one of the bloodiest colonial was. many people died of hunger because

the gym and colonial troops in the fields to deprive the people of a livelihood. crimes that are recorded in some gas, small museum, each new generation can learn what happened here. behind closed doors, president stein my, i met defendants of national hero. some guy he's vice basic was the last time aware of the great that. and he said, still places on your people today, i'm going anguish, he closes his family, is i know, and i said, how deeply the pain of his death and of how he was murdered to his spelled to this day. the mazda bought out quite enough is kind, i understand that this cruel deed has left its mark on many generations as t like another time continues to echo, and your families on the side to india on sunday, and for the the germans, broad hundreds of us goes to europe, full circle research,

a racist endeavor. today they have stored in gem and museums, getting them back is particularly important to the defendants. president stein my problem is to do all he can to ensure that some gas go is found. edward to actually is that what amazed entity that will cost to battery ever seen and to bill we in our morning days we're, we're not and drying. if we're doing we're doing the battery. i was our developments then the president's apology is a big moment for the relatives. they say moved, this is really extra. you get to get him into our community to defend, middle from bundle and the whole community or from the sole reason will come

a good for any of the vision. starting my as visit is also and did raising awareness in gym and they were the crimes in the form of gym and east africa. largely for go into the feeling zyden dodson, this message to you is the gym and he stands ready to address the pos together name . and so no one is to the get what happened back then. somebody could see, and my great hope is no because they, especially young people, will get involved in the dressing of the pos, together school, children and students on scientists. the museum style from the business of the business of the muslims load after steinman, his visits and his words, a reconciliation tends in that and germany may now find it easier to come to terms with the shed puts together. and at the same time, strength and co operation for a better future. katya coil is minister of state at germany's foreign office, and she travelled with the german president, dw is kathrina cradle,

also with a stylized pledge is wearing off. the promise that we'll do every thing to try to find the human remains. he did not promise that we can do it because it is typical . we already tried some we are, we haven't tried every spring. so we are continuing this work with all our institutions at museum and without being able to promise a success, we'll promise to do everything that's possible to finally bring back the answers just depends on where they belong. yeah, many germans don't know anything about this. part of german history. how can that be improved? well this, this wizard and this, this question was asked the president, asking for forgiveness will also be pardoned telling in germany what has happened here. so this is our responsibility to make this more known also in

history classes in schools. so that is very important to the 10s of millions to the families. and it's our duty and where there are many uh, now address expression of reparation. like we did with i hear hello nama and media . well, what we do is we listen to the terms on young people. we listen to the families to the defendants. what are they on needs? what do they want? and they didn't mention this to in our talks with them, so they have some needs and we'll walk them. that's what they think is necessary to hear these words. but so far we didn't. they didn't talk about reparations in the car. thank you very much. but germany also committed colonial era crimes before and after the magic magic war in the north, maggie maley king of the child got people lead a resistance against the germans,

who then publicly hand him his is one of several sculls believed to be in germany today. charles columbia reports from moshi in northern pennsylvania, where the grandchildren of 19 many and all the leaders are still on a quest for justice. the tone is mostly on the slopes of mount katy montero is home to the child. that's right. is the re, a man is one for that was mind. you many need of the check out when the fault of j mind caught on these back last several years later, the gym is 100000000 as thinking do are going to rebel again. they took several calls back to j money by give maybe 10 to a bundle. i look a bit what you see me, what was done to monkey may lead to me and my family. we are not such aside. leave it to people who don't have a view into our lives. well, but they agree, lucille,

this wasn't normally that dental. now high school was an x of great violence that was done to ask me if i do, i do a minor. and that is why we have not lived in peace all these years. these museum toes, mind humanities, tory is leadership of the chat tribe and his rebellion against the gym. others, the fact that the germans not only executed him but to be headed human took is car to berlin. news in the grid of will not be an option if any of this code is returned to them. well, we have decided that after it's return, this call will not be buried in the ground, because this party was not legally buried to goes, but it was late to arrest without proper rights for the wind, where he was laid off. he cannot be seen up by do you quoted as well for the guy that the what, how, who go therefore, we believe his spirit is not a piece to them well, and we are looking at a place where he will become a rated google club up above we had to buy the vehicle high 1000000 used to own all

of these land here. as he was chief of the target shape. it is now owned by his grandson and he's generations. that said there was where the jim on the corner noises high him and 18 others. or does that mean 2 is when side that was i'm on those killed. here he's go is all saying jim, i need it. do you need to, has confirmed the relationship to it was more than just this call. he also wants composition wire to an on back to the kind of you and we request that the 10s in the, in government take a firm stance to ensure that the german government pays us. if the government maintains the dance and level we could be paid even today. i do, i think is the re uh when to jim i need to take it in a test. betsy's or officials there or not find his color. we feelings. he's 50 year old site to find he's one for those remains and bring them home,

continues. so following the gym and presidents visit, attends in the a and is p for forgiveness for what the germans did to some gambino in the magic maggi war. we off, people embarrassed with them what they thought about this gesture or social security a funds that 1st level is that he considered it so because he's just one of the many presidents who have been involved with since the timing of what's commendable the can you recognize the importance of this wizard and will seeking forgiveness for what happened in the past. the ones that i mean this will strengthen our relationship with them and also help us as the company and when they might have faith in working with them for on development of the my they know if i really yes a fall is what i see on just show us that the president gears on movies okay. has a hard 80 and nothing. no initial also wants to just just re establish a good relationship between 10 video and germany. we've got the ethan's any up,

i'm wondering 00, my municipal thank so head softly the hearts of to speak to us. yes, you directly affected by these prevents who? so often the strain, the good relations gentlemen and the hickey, i'm about out of the lucky name of the money or communion equal i think so. yes, he has apologize to get the gun to get the one but the desires of many people. they want the power to hear what will follow after the apologize for the 4th is a normal because they only put because people that have been waiting to hear and i think that they will receive adequate compensation. a couple of when the code you don't mind, definitely the people lost their loved ones, usually homeless and families hire mind. so as he mentioned that when he returns to germany, he will provide answers to the money who will do money on budget. that would be sure to pick it up and then yeah, i believe the governmental initials mean it should follow up on what those answers entail. come a heavy enough. i, you know, he's not just returning the, remain just gonna, but also compensating the victims of those of this proposal. i'm gonna come up with

the my c as something good. and also is something to be proud of history. because from what we learned in history, who are those events who are not good when a new skill, they're taking the responsibility to come to us and seek forgiveness is actually the same. and as tens of millions, we're proud of it and have seen it as an active honor because it's something that happened in the past. but now they have remembered it and decided to come and go and seek forgiveness level any. so can you mind i can, it's a sable me so how exactly of the events on the gym and colonial rule? remember today in terms of the a, i asked nancy rash, ahora townsend in historian, lecturing at the university of doris alons department of archaeology. and heritage studies. oh, there is always no fish. oh no, it's part of this

a resistance. some of them took you to of a women like some money. it was too hot. it might be my to reach your inside the some gap in design setting to a big resistance. see, that's what stoughton, more than any of that other areas. so the initial is plus 50, has a didn't jot all putting wrong information into a 60 books. i to assign to it as a national story. that's when you go to, they did get down in families in the small groups. you find that the not too big is different. these in a heroes, into drawings. i remembered results. i'm sorry. that's why you find a new, such as that to me, is on the lives of the heroes, is still in the lanes will be much, much as he says, oh, who thinks and the nature of this always in this initial this, that's a common concept. it's the only, you know, that's his mon,

to participated in there might, might be of assistance in some get is nowhere to be prompt. and these same people don't appear to have been the focus of the german presidents visit 2 times in the i do sense of a missed opportunity that just i feel like there is a missed opportunity so badly because you've been into solving times any age. so into some gap, cities or the, the vision of what the president as address and what the present hospital type res . so it is easy to soon get has no mentioning of any of that. so say i choose what that will fix it. you're talking of saga and she has been going it so again was just, it's up to and as one of the people is gonna be present at you or numerous, it either way quite a bit too much of my resistance. some of them are going to be for you and some

stuff. and so the app which is the gym on, in terms of asking for forgiveness has been complicated. so when i look at these, for instance, in the case of my media, it was, i not followed you. and then there is time. when i look on the dates in terms of the of nigeria, it was the return of the, the new rules. i don't see anywhere with the apology was templates and when you come to terms on the plan and amino mentioned specifically for then going me was leaving out as the i chose to choose that to me or for me to. and so you see that this is more like if we need to pull political agenda of i need to we to really a, across the past and fluids to what the do, just that kind of you collaboratively as it seems as fired me when, when subject, when talking about this whole issue has been, uh, the, the skulls that of these, um, some of these people that were taken away to germany,

costs of the way by the german colonialist. there's obviously a personal connection for the descendants of these, uh, these people. um, but can you help us understand the cultural significance to these people of having the skulls returned? what does this actually mean to them? as it's i know it was of this cost to speaking a we've the cheats dot of the not fitted by a team of human remains in the country of japan were associated in beaks. the i just that is, this is the new bill is due to much, isaac is the drug children of the, of the victims or, or would you mind colonial, easy. so you find that the families have a new box piece that cool conflicts, but some of them are supposed to leave, but i'll wait for the mantle for my demand with these crimes you have for me to

wish you remember that's these. it is it, i trust it using and we have dining property. some of the children and gone to do we have suppose to be not send is when these crimes we are committed. and so these extra need to get them. so my expense that if i'm you like that to some given by, i'm odd to me from the location from the homes to about 40 kilometers on way to is find a new home in this type of ship the iris did state. and so you find the sun after today that the families asked the concept leaving the line that's a lot they own. and these we have totally new to people in this website because they, we have cheese. there we have a choice. now these 2 professions, enough, we've got a very descriptive, especially for the actual significance. so that's, that's the i is the fix it into them that you fix the a,

the king and the looting of the cartridge is not on the, into this car in the original of buying the did that these inputs and anyone was died induced by you is is required, but it is also the associated objects and these to cultural coefficients, especially on the back of a cheap. and that's a very serious. sure and, but that's how much of chip that to a new to with 2 instruments. that's what i use for the 40 horse. yes, yes. and for this type of, she went to this, how many of this society and some of these so say seeing that the i've never seen these because of the absence of these to the absence of the my remains in the absence of the actual chips. ok. nancy show her at times in, in his story and thank you for speaking to us.

now, part of the fight for justice has also been the campaign for continued investigations into what happened in colonial times and to educate people both in times india. and here in germany, that's at the hearts of an ongoing exhibition in berlin, which is focusing on the missing human remains and looted onto effect sometimes in the, in a call for very pots ration i went to have a look. it's a mobile research project that's involved putting on displays to audiences intends in the getting the verbal and autistic responses and adding them to the exhibition . it's called marriage, issue, swahili for return, or restitution. the focus is on the brutality of colonial rulers and what was gym and east africa, and the artifacts and human remains. they took away with them, or one of the lead researches and curators of the project he's been yak out. so

room borrow. he's dedicated decades of his life to campaigning for clarity about germany's colonial past and for justice, for the defendants of the victims. to be sort of pieces. we went to that, you know, logical museum here in 1000000000. we selected point objects photographed them, went to breast museum. the live sate also we selected for you on chips and you also went to the museum in sort of got kind of so we picked the point objects there. we found also in the archives some photographs of some of the chiefs and the people at home. they didn't know

how this chiefs did. you look like before, they're way ahead because most of them were and the team found out that diluted items that were brought to germany did not only serve as trophies of war. the germans, they took us, we advertise a, we black a deck and we are under the issue with time would be for fed, put them, you know, what to do. even the animals are even better than we are. and also this shows when you go to the shelves where this human remains the heads up, would there be a headset or use that would just cause you find it to find them? it's the with cause of monkeys. coupons is borderline or i know that i saw on the sherry tay is germany's largest and oldest university teaching hospital. this was the destination for human remains from german colonies around the world, including tons and you brought to you for racist scientific research. now over

a 100 years later, it's taking the work of scientists prompted by activists to identify the all regions of these body parts. so they can return home the statements. but only some of these items have been found and identified as active as the pushing for a continued investigation. and for an open, an honest conversation about germany's brutal actions in its former colonies. a topic most germans know nothing about. well that's it for now, but be sure to check out other stories on dw, to come forward, slash advocate on facebook, and each, you know, communities and families affected by german colonialism. have long been remembering . van lost family members generalist ramona sites was at the maggi maggi war heroes festival last february and she sent us these impressions of the ceremonies. we'll see you next time. bye for now the

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