tv Russians vs. Russia Deutsche Welle November 5, 2023 3:15am-4:00am CET
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to have a choice, i think that we have little time list to save the product. so we have to do whatever we can as fast as possible. we only have one generation left just 25 years to implement the greatest revolution since the tune of the industrial age. replacing fossil fuels with renewable energy around the world without exception is a global energy to information really cost of the forward as well. or is it for our to pa documents, free renewables, revenue jobs, november 25th. i'm dw, the
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diesel engine hooton's as popular as he claims wisely so afraid of his opponent, the prescribed flight up on the end of now the only fools his supporters and sends them onto the streets where they break the law. we didn't know what is the cause of its stabs. it is if they are victims, it's not a food is regina gardner, but of their own stupidity of so in a group is to pull them. i worked in a research institution. i was forced to quit for this. i'm a political activist. the
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inside me tutoring has been in power for more than 2 decades. massively, exacerbating divisions with in russian society. one of his favorite tactics is refreshing. the effects of which i am most noticeable in moscow. up to now, the metropolis of 12000000 people has flourished economically due to revenues from the oil and gas sector. moscow is held up as a prime example of russian success jeer, average wages are 3 times higher than the more rural regions of the nation. and unlike the rest of the country, the russian capital is also a hot bed of growing resistance to the 2 in regime, especially for people who are young and educated. the who
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belongs to this opposition and what are their goals, the, what price our food is? critics willing to pay for greater justice and freedom. the the soviet flag disappeared from the roof of the kremlin and late 1991 and was replaced with the russian banner, the democracy and freedom to cold. the population appear to be united the after 70 years of communism, austerity, and state propaganda. people had hopes for a better life is the what's
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happened to that? russian unity. it's a question i'm keen to explore. in the 19 ninety's, i worked as a journalist in moscow. what am i friends with a local colleague? feel to tell story. he's now one of the most influential members and pollutants in our circle the we meet again for the 1st time in 30 years. the hi. how's it going to be set up at all? uh, can you still speak russian? yeah. it's been a while, but i'll give it a go. if they've got the front on the board and ask it's september 2021. tolstoy.
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a great grandson of the legendary writer hope to win re election as a member of parliament. there is a long q best buy. there's something at stake. that's democracy, people chewing to cast their votes. upon 1st glance, it looks comparable to western elections. you can vote and the electoral lift, the cameras film, the top of attrition casting. as boat state media disseminate the image of a free and fair process. how many candidates are there? how many? 123,
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the 12 stores. besides putin's united russia party as a communist and a liberal opposition, but the authorities decide who was allowed to run according to the n g o bolos. the electoral commission has blocked the candidacy of 9000000 people in national and local poles across the land. european council observers say this isn't democratic. meanwhile, supporters of georgia, tolstoy and pollutants party are confident of their victory or new mentions to your position is just the minority of the presidential election shows us what the majority thinks, pretty related. somebody since that this issue, that's just 5000 people out of 150000000. we're not supposed to go on in our country. criminals aren't allowed in politics. that's why the opposition doesn't have any candidates without free elections. it's difficult to gauge how many supporters prudent actually has
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the that's why young moscow activists are trying to document the suspected elect or fraud. despite figuring the consequences olga works and marketing. but today she's posing as a supporter of the oppositional communist party, the tension component. i'm not a member of the c p, but i'm pretending to be so i can be here as an election observer. give us more, just a quote with this. wouldn't hide this. this transparent box is one of thousands of mobile ballot boxes belonging to the russian and the total commission they were introduced to make voting easier for the elderly during the corona virus pandemic of the energy hello, we're from the like total commission, open the door,
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please upgrade specialists to all those interested to know why millions of retired people are voting for peruvians party despite their major pensions the, the name of a governing party is candidate standing for re election is dimitri peps off the, the, you mockery to the trough now? yes. where he so you can vote why you requested the visit, didn't you sell it? well, no, you, yes, i remember who should i go for? i'll explain everything to you. oh, i've brought a pin. you can keep that mazda rita, struggles to find the name of the candidate just recommended to her. so i
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was so somebody think that the civic did the nursing home a give you the name when i knew me? yes, i heard cups of. no, great. why are you voting for him? there are plenty of other names on the list that you'll hear. i found him look, she's just voted for pest of to election observer older. this is clearly a setup. elderly people are being systematically manipulated before elections, to choose candidates loyal to putting on you for that the that's my cellphone. so good by hopefully you can cross next to a chosen candidate. did you already decide? yeah, i'm a grown woman and i'm voting for pep. so from united, russia, the,
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please done folders. i'll help you from other system guy. and usually i grew up in the soviet union, should i work with us? i was in the communist party back then with the now i trust the put in party. so this isn't well, they go by you and you do more space. the thing that's cool, i don't think russia is divided or you by just a just smaller the through g. there's a minority of young people who didn't experience the soviet union. i see who were born to after it ended up got thought, i believe it was between the some of them have no appreciation for national russian identity and that's on the d. but i c. e. our mistake was to allow a generation of 20 to 30 year olds to mix western culture with russian values. and good idea is up and it's in this to utilize. could you see to mr. 0? the vladimir cut
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a motorcycle. these things differently. he was a comrade and friend, a voice names off to a shot dead in front of the kremlin. in 2015. vladimir has survive to poison attacks themselves and as under permanent secret service, surveillance and opportunity for those gaiety women, when i'm on the phone, i know that there's always a 3rd party listening on the line. obviously has come to virginia to investigate television also always knows who everything and where i am going to attempt to stay on those nights can fill up here with cameras and broadcast. if i'm a to restore ease of what it means, you have to have covered that can you believe say for example me and i said we're being funded by the west with, by just going to that particular gain. people sharing a separate. yeah. what can i say that i guess what i should know, my wife started asking for all the money's going on. why she hasn't seen any of it yet. we're gonna send them julian will prescribe. well, if i don't hear that they're following or wiretapping me as i start to new ideas,
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it's psychological warfare question. but after 2 attacks with me, i'm a co substances being tail doesn't scare me anymore. no. thank you much guy. know what's really going on in this country and who's behind it all started in addition to the, the assassination attempt on timer cut, a motorcycle. there been numerous other points an attack, some members of the opposition since by may prudent became russian president in 2000 the most recent case wasn't so long ago in august 2020 alexei novelle. and these are seriously on a flight from siberia to moscow. the doctor is at a hospital, an honest putting up on the, in an induced coma and he was phone out to berlin. the election of all name and
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a statement in may 2024 months after being poisoned. the pretty. i don't know. i mean, yeah, i mean, records is mostly of, i'm reading a lot of what's being written and basically in moscow quaker smoking, i'm surprised as the lens preaching is going to to prevents when i returned and you've got the most of the moist. so wasn't able to judge zillow, so i, which move now that i'm feeling better. deluca today, i've decided to end my stay in germany by most of them. i'm with the i'm still young via them. i'll arrive at most school airport on the 17th of january of 2021. the amount that's that was due soon. you come and pick me up. but yeah, yeah. as long as most people are you some of the chairs. busy the older wanted to respond to them. i'll just call to action. but your mother, for your disconnect her daughter in trouble. the lows are already familiar with
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russian prisons. in 2017, those mother and daughter were arrested at a demonstration in downtown moscow. when our stories began to crack down more harshly and protest the this picture of the older became a symbol of the opposition in instant russian citizens arrested for no reason. the on this day in january of 2021. the active list arrived at moscow airport with thousands of other supporters of albany. children that is playing had been diverted . the protesters didn't hold back for 10,
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you provocative tour. alexio's only had been condemning corruption in russia for more than a decade. it's landed him in jail several times. this time he faced 2 and a half years in prison. and the former lawyer has faced more than the nerve agent attack. the opposition publication was arrested the moment here, right back and russia the it was all in vain. boy, he was still arrested but while he was in germany and of all me prepared and outrages x was a, a grenade, just ready to be thrown the purpose of the video
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to cause major problems for the kremlin and above all, put in. so i me, it was, you'll see for yourself how much this man left luxury and money and that he's capable of. and the thing the investigation revealed, the russian presidents, megalomania whose families is embezzling public funds and how his k g, b, or a funds are lining their pockets. this doesn't align with the image of putting peddled by state media that of a modest and courageous head of state. the video which is just under 2 hours long has been viewed more than $100000000.00 times on youtube. use these across the country. more and more disaffected russians rally behind the bone. the in protest against ramp and corruption. every request to demonstrate is blocked. this gives the authorities the power to intervene and the
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rest of participants. dear citizens, we're here to ensure your safety. we have disperse, this is no legal gathering. nevertheless, all the and her sister tanya meet a friend that they know a lien from previous rally as while thousands of people to take to the streets. many of them students peacefully expressing their opinions, but nonetheless, a great risk. the embrace and i've got a load of posters under my coat scared, i might be detained for the things to the end jose, at least i know the law most were doing this discreetly. the slogans read, i'm not afraid or we want freedom statements that wouldn't lead to jail in other
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countries. just in case olga entered front of lena stay on the sidelines. 0 i had a bad feeling about this, don't you cut off the situation escalates? what does that, why are you taking her? without any warning, alina is seized by officers. tell me where you're taking her. to which station. what did you do? why are you taking her? through and you don't even know yourself because the we were just standing on the pavement. where are you taking my friend? is this a joke? listen to me. do you know why she's been arrested? stop. well, what is the cause of these nights?
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the police are clearly just following orders to detain as many demonstrators as possible. in the chaos, alina is able to let old a know which station she's being taken to the police station since the hello. you see me and hear me. okay. that's enough to give to a few days later, the president takes questions from students. in spite of his friendly, calm tone, vladimir prudent issues, a clear warning to his critics. what i think about what's your view of the current situation? thank you. well, i'm supposed to, but thank you for your question. no, i'd like to make it clear once again, let's go back to everyone has the right to free expression at you show this can
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only happen within the existing legal framework that uh, i'm gonna transfer you over to each was it in your anyone going a step too far in this regard, just isn't just acting culture productively system avoids them even the dangerously people still going to do now personally dangerous. in the more than 20 years, that pollutants been in power to successfully restricted their right of assembly. if to a more resumed critics meat that's enough to be labeled as an illegal demonstration . luckily, now by now, you will pass along the encourages his supporters to take to the street, and thereby break the law. and this is how they then get caught up on the wheels of justice used to what did they must say name e cause yes, their victims obviously is the end of done, but not a guten regime. is they claim to it's going easy a month. okay. but of their own stupidity and premier soaps in a group as to the arena was
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released after one night and a so she faces a heavy fine and a child at the moment. she's not doing too well financially for activism has cost her her job and she's just trying to make ends meet the she's working in a dog, rooming parlor. she loves animals, but this job's a far cry from her actual expertise. yes, i'm an engineer in the ms. all industry and i worked at the research institute. oh, i thought to them. yeah, they didn't find me, but i was forced to quit because of my political activism. almost died. yeah, that's correct. i help people who are arrested and i demonstrate the civil rights to my niece, and my bosses didn't like the fact that i was working for the opposition. i think
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one day i was visited work by people from the f s. b. the domestic secret service alina lost, her trust in russian state media long ago. like many young people, she gets her information from independent new sites online. are they painted a completely different picture of pollutants, russia? here's cause findings of my grandparents which tv old a. you can, you can use this, they can't conceive of the fact that what's being put in front of them might not be correct. and they think whatever's on tv is the truth. was no actual pulls out. but it's initially they tried to change my political views to that we always ended up arguing nixon with these guys. i just avoid the subject because i know the discussion won't lead any way you, but i'm always best competing. i mean,
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my guess crazy man. eastern, usually soviet times, no one believe the state propaganda. people even laughed at the headlines and the see piece paper crowd generally figured out to the 2 were living in an empire full of lice, except the whole machine runs much more efficiently and actually, and you're able to and i must confess, there's much more talents that play than in the past century, kremlin propaganda is still feeling the majority of russians and influencing millions of people to get those things back out. there are also millions of people, especially the young who stopped believing putin's lives, which i'm are seeing them of the demo. read them, i wanted to mention because older this information tactics no longer worked with this generation. the regime deployed the fear factor. lena's example shows that this isn't just about losing a job or paying a fine. in the worst case scenario,
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she could end up serving a longer prison sentence. something that's already happened to many other demonstrators. on the 27th of july 2019, for example, tens of thousands march to central moscow demanding that their candidate be allowed to run to the office of mayor. the police took a brutal approach intervening and making random arrest me. there were scuffles with the police which also involved igor, the young man and the jean shorts and great t shirts. later, authorities claim that the court hit this police officer so hard. he could no longer stand up. as this footage clearly shows, it was a complete fabrication. nevertheless, ego was sentenced to 3 years in prison together with many other demonstrators. the single fortresses chose he's got one more year to serve,
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shows both young and the boy for egos partner dasha the spelled the end of their shared dream to make up for this contender. then yansa, this is can we were planning to start our own tourism business. have a commercial show for and around vacationers. we even wanted to buy a mini van pitch. what don't you so here are 1st posts about it and what they've left or equal or was sentenced on next. he asked me to marry him, but i don't want to marry someone in a prison state media presented igor as a dangerous criminal. the public defamation of opposition members is typical of today's russia. family and friends are shocked at the har sentences headed down to innocent citizens. the task list available show was awesome. it is me. but we went for traders terrible people's immunization. and then after the trial,
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i received threats from others saying they wanted to shoot a burn or hang me just a moment. i'm with the power and the to produce people who make and implement the lowest head of shred of honesty, justice or sense just nice to speak or would have been given a suspended sentence at the very most of them, most of them will fall. and then when they haven't board, show the, the police and holding ego is located indeed abroad, formerly stolen grad, the. it's about 1000 kilometers from his home city of moscow. which means that few people can visit the video. today his lawyer has once again made the long journey here to file an application for an early release at the relevant regional court. the,
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the hearing appears comparable to western traditional systems. igor is able to give a statement via video link from prison. although he was eligible for parole months ago, state prosecutors oppose his release. you shouldn't need any more. i see no reason why my client can be released early experience this. i can't understand the prosecutor's reasoning or decent. the lawyer's words fall on deaf ears. that was the goal is good behavior, also counts for nothing. i request that the court released me on probation. i have done everything i've been told to do in prison, and i don't know what else i'm supposed to do.
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it's no surprise that the court denies the motion that the judge is about to retire . he won't be taking any more risks of the questions you have and you need to understand how you become a judge in russia. in the 1st place. she said throwing you there, all former justice officials in the 1st 1015 years of their careers. they see her closely judges and prosecutors working together. and then also when they get to be judges themselves, they have to behave the same way on the point. the lack of an independent judiciary. these many russians defenseless against the tyranny of the state when he was still everyone in this country newest that and 99 percent of criminal proceedings, the accused, despite of guilty official supreme court statistics said there's one equitable for
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every 10000 verdicts from that even during the style in the year, the numbers look better as opposed to a scrape, this machinery of repression. thousands of government critics have only one option . they have to flee russia by any means necessary. the 1000 kilometers to the west of most scout estonian. not the miscellaneous were the 1st republics to win independence after the collapse of the soviet union in 1991. the politics have remained a popular holiday destination for russians, or there's a significant rushing community in the region to this day, the
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estonia, latvia, miscellaneous, enjoying the e. u. n. nato in 2004 fears that moscow could reassert historical territorial claims have existed here for a long time. not just since the annexation of crimea in 2014 or the attack on large parts of ukraine in 2022. the many dissidents have relocated to bill news. the capital of lithuania, the russians are granted political asylum here. located not far from independence square. this former russian k g b building has been turned into a museum. reminder of soviet repression. the,
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the cells are similar to those use back there and to incarcerate these 3 men for their political views. it triggers a vivid nightmarish memories from mikhail, dimitri and vladimir the at $35.00 demetrius the oldest of the 3. she had to pay for his political activism with 14 years in prison. even though he didn't hurt anyone. he was a victim of the russian justice systems, despotism. the stuff doesn't look bad at all. i told you about the steel beds. you can't sleep well and those are
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because they're too short from the infection, which one? it was exactly the same for me back then. but this has windows phone. you have all the look here. i was tortured. are you in russia? confessions are beaten out of you, but the advice develop believe it's because i knew it is nice and then you were being very nice day for me. of course, or do i from one you don't, they're quite creative and hit you where it hurts the most in wishing. and the they also use electricity from an old generator. oh, it came up in august and i'm a washer and the price of insurance was that applied? oh, well, which natalie bugging you to the generals normally, associates. it's sometimes to the face, bottle moment, sheets clips all for the year at the mercy of their ingenuity, fantastic,
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or by new or doesn't. and they know where it's most painful for me when you're at the top or just by to the years as well. when people say to year loops or cheek keywords can produce footage was found with a hidden camera in a russian prison. in the summer of 2017, several guards are torturing a naked man. when it went public, the film caused a scandal, but the perpetrators got off with extremely lenient sentences, the capital one of them. so when you are cuz i wanted to kill myself to end the torture is, for example, when there's another guy slashed my throat. says house, it is not a lot closer to the police. i filed down the tooth brush handle and rammed into my neck. you were the fullest one. i just thought if i was going to die and if at all,
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then it should at least be fast and kind of what you said in the dimitry was taken to hospital eventually he managed to escape abroad. like so many others the . it's estimated that since 2008, some 1800000 russians have left their homeland, including some of the nation's best mines do. so it's how does usually negative impact on the federation's development for example, sooner there is a decision who now lives in bill news. he's an item networks specialist like i'd or
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he had to flee moscow in 2019 to avoid being jailed for joining an anti pollutant demonstration. a duplicate or some deposit you spend to 3 years in prison for nothing. if you're 25 or 30, those are your best years. you've got your whole life ahead of you. you, we move away for you. that idea. and so any of we just need desires, new justice in that country. and there's no security, a new economic development data and stores that you can't be sure you won't end up in jail for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. i'll stay and i've used to beat that belongs to do to you. but i read all the time on twitter about people who want to leave. you are who you've already left. i wish i could was it. these aren't regular workers. i guess you'd be there. highly educated people with university degrees, doctors, engineers and so forth, things. and yet it varies the way our nation's going piedmont. people don't want to live there anymore. that's what i've used. what's the depth of the
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economy, sir? good, good. you have settled in paris, france. he was russia's envoy to the european bank for reconstruction and development. he was forced into exile after sharing comments critical of pollutants in our circle and the patient that enough. so i'm going to go to the in 2013 ice and ultimately the nation must fight corruption. auction there was yes, the rims told me that vladimir putin wasn't especially thrilled by that. most of the boss and he's often asked if he's concerned with the high numbers of educated people leaving russia. yeah, his answer is always, you know, when we are a free country, he was not finding it, but generally the price for the other one the show. and it's obvious why he says that if still was anyone who's educated, understands that russia is limping behind the rest of the world. what is the threat to his power? and for pretend it's better if people like that flipped abroad. well,
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goodness, the way that you are looking to answer but criticism is growing within russia to, in regions where people's lives are a far cry from that of urban centers like moscow is leads to what i see life in russia is nothing but joy. uh, no, need to look anywhere else. it daugherty lloyd vladimir exit off is an electrician and blogger, who comes from total pets, a small russian town of $13000.00 residents. his internet report on that poor state of his home has ruffled the feathers of the powerful needed to lose the lead. this is the true face of hooting as russia. everything's destroyed. if he liked his dairy farm was going to be secure. no more bombs are needed here. nato no longer needs to destroy russia. links to the rest of the flood in there. a good off had to secretly flew to the west. across the
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border into lithuania. now he's at a refugee center waiting for his asylum. claim to be processed are usually off, like a mini of only. that's what people call them. a lot of them i've only, i'm not running for any political office. single, single, just ask that the streets of my town be cleaned up for that. i've been described as a public enemy. there was nothing else i could do. so i tried using humor. locals laughs, but those are the top didn't. so they took their revenge on me in their own way. but instead of responding to his concerns, the authorities arrested vladimir and charged him with extremism. she faced a long present term. the she only saw one way out, escaped. a stranger helped him out,
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the technician select somebody, contacted me through facebook and said he could help me. he wasn't an activist, just a regular citizen. mostly mostly. and he drove with me through bellow, roost to the lithuanian border to a lake. and just i had a water proof rucksack and slippers with me just jumped out of the moving car straight into the water and swim half a kilometer across the lake at night with gps all the way. so meanwhile, he and his son just carried on driving without stopping, just in case we've been followed. we, i asked him, do you realize you're helping a criminal? and he answered, i'd like to teach my son about courage, realistic, me vladimir, had to leave his wife and children behind. all because he spoke the truth about the misery of life and rule russia, or the who is this obama
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mediation, trump. i mean, the way to, to the hell is that he's a nobody compared to putting aside there. just edit some up here or nothing. right? yes. good. put in place them like up to middle. yeah. but a good way for you would kind of look here. we often get power cuts and see if we can cope with that. when i see it, that's good. we can manage without light tobin and that'll imagine how the americans would feel. yeah, maybe up they'd be finished, which is to be sure, i just don't get them here because here according to official figures, the average monthly income and rural areas is equivalent to $300.00 euros, with no sign of an upswing as a show strings all put in can do is allude to the glory of long past victories during his commemorative speeches. i cannot fall and i'm not sure that i'm the enemy at top of our nation, invaded it to destroyers as a state and
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a nation. so that's look them up celebrating associated victory over nazi germany doesn't make up the dissolution of the soviet union, the demonizing, the west tops. okay. national pride, the because the us, we retreated from the west every time i do agree said forced it's economic and cultural model as well as it's moral codes on to us in an aggressive manner. model and then the rest and it's in do people really believe that when evil put in is gone you that'll be the end. would you eat that? russia will just submit to the west who doesn't know that won't be the case. the middle school to or you may read them, so what is your need? they'd be the executioners are back in russia. we've always respected international law, but we'll defend our national interest with them. any price should match. and that's
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something that means it is cheaper here. and there, for many regimes have been in power in russia. spell out there was sarcasm, beach, styling isn't. and everything after that using us moment, trimball started here. shortly, i scraped the current one as a postmodern dictatorship with a pseudo democratic facade. or the case with farcical elections and legal procedures and the justice system resembling that of the soviet union. that's just how much the like, the
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