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immediately after the october 7th terror attacks inside israel, the is rarely military and government valid to fight back until her moss is destroyed. and since then, we've seen a non stop garage of attacks from the air, from the sea and on the ground all inside the gallons of strip. but keeping this promise has also created what remains one very important on answered question after home us what comes next for gaza as israel's war against the terrorist group. andrews, it's the 2nd month. and the answer is beginning to emerge. library, golf, and berlin. this is the day the those who don't want to continue the way of homeless. it certainly is not that. i think is what we'll look for an indefinite period. we'll have the overall security responsibility. what nathan? yeah, i would suggest piece to choose to continue his look prolong strategy
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of managing the costing the site and show me the history. i will have complete freedom to act in any situation whether it's any threat and gaza. i think they're very, very major question marks of the political and it moves to future of cause like if indeed some of the tooth broke down. also coming up a one year before the us presidential election. the polos are not looking good in a key swing states for president by. well, joe biden has a lot of work to do in terms of gaining the confidence of the voters in those states. and so i'm worried, cuz these are states he asked when absolutely has to win to win. the 2nd term is present to our viewers watching on tv as in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day at the moment of sad news
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for israel. it has been exactly one month since the terror group tomas carried out attacks inside is real. 1400 people were killed, most of them civilians. some of them including women and children, showed signs of being tortured before they were murdered. october 7th, 2023 ranks as the deadliest day for jews since the holocaust. in the 4 weeks since gaza has been under intense is rarely bombardment. on monday the un said that $89.00 employees of it's agency 8 in palestinian refugees had been killed in gaza in the last month, making this the deadliest conflict for un personnel in history. and this week gauze is a mouse run. health ministry said that is really airstrikes have chilled more than 10000 people in the territory. another 25000 and had been injured. and those numbers can not be verified. but the pentagon says that the number of casualties in
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gaza, that number runs in the thousands. we have more now in this report. after a month the constant bombardment, israel's military says, ground troops are pushing into gaza city in the northern part of the strip and taken over a mass compound, a soldier's prepared with tax fighters hiding in underground tunnels. for the 1st time, israel's prime minister has also provided insights into his government's future plans for the tech tori. during the us television interview, president biden has said that it would be a mistake for is realty occupied gaza, who should govern gaza when this is older. i think is what we'll look for an indefinite period. we'll have the overall uh, security responsibility because we've seen what happens when we don't have it when we don't have that security responsibility. what we have is the rupturing of
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a must or on a scale that we couldn't imagine. weeks of pounding air strikes, hubbard used entire neighborhoods to rubble is really ground. forces have effectively cut the strip in half as fighting intensifies in the north. netanyahu says israel is considering tactical pauses to facilitate the entry of humanitarian aid and the exit of hostages. israel has rebuffed mounting international pressure for a cease fire. now one of the functions of code name off the the know the gaza area into the nose and sector of operations is to see los palmas leadership on, of course, passing up who are already the and killer capture them. i suppose in some cases military panelists warren, that the weeks ahead we'll see grew in house to house fighting and gaza for this latest phase is real. let's put it's a lead $36.00 division to the task. the $36.00 edition has come up,
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power equivalent to the british on. so when you see these pictures of these, oh, it's spiral shocking tool box. it's not only for the knots, henry, that's what you'll see, and you're seeing the power of a launch motor. well equipped, tommy, and it's the most powerful division about to go to action. israel withdrew its troops and settlers from casa in 2005, but kept control over the territories, aerospace and coastline. netanyahu did not make clear what security control of the strip would look like. us officials have advised israel not to reoccupied garza. my next guest is off already on. he's a former brigadier general in the israel defense forest from 2010 to 2015 in service head to strategic division in the i, the general staff planning director it and he's currently with the think tank. the institute for national security studies. he joins me tonight from philippine
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general. it's good to have you with this. the idea has now divided the gaza strip into is the next step, the complete capture of gaza city. i think what we need to expect is the further of in 5 thing inside the gaza, which is the center of gravity of the terrace is from us army and the governors in gossen. so what is what we're seeing now? is that closing in on the seat here for garza and fighting against the core of thomas forces in that area? do you anticipate the idea of moving into the southern part of gauze? we need to see how the campaign uh develops. but uh, this uh,
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might the way be part of the future phases. uh, is our, uh, leadership, uh, we assess the situation of the enemy and the need to further, that'd be great. either. i'd like if you could, maybe to help our viewers understand what do people need to know about how fundamentally is really intense to reshape garza and how long is, is real prepared to take doing that. i know it does sounds a bit. the distance in a sense, but uh it will, uh, we will do it as long as it takes because uh after the, uh, october, 7th, the massacre. i think we are talking about that he's really transformed is not no longer willing to accept the interior government in
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in gaza, being able to slaughter our people, our communities, to hijack in kid that hostages babies, toddlers, the women and the li, holocaust survivors. all of this and to hold the 240 of them in gaza as hostages. mm hm. uh we just got off the hour ago. we got the evening asenjoe into the metropolitan area. uh by uh, rockets. uh, we've tried for many years to daycare in somewhat to the gray, but uh on, on the, on the toner aid. the concept of uh, how much uh their government in gaza thinking that is the least deformed evils. no, it's not the least. it's as evil as dice and the ice, it may be worse,
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the barbaric and say that's the heinous crimes that atrocities are not something that we're going to accept. and on the never again, we are willing to pay the price and take as long as we take our time and efforts in our uh, soldiers, uh, casualties and so on. to remove this uh, threats to our border communities and theresa rarely launched in general. you said that and, but there was a time when you thought that some us was maybe the lesser of evils. and you say it's not. it's just as bad as, as ice is, are you pointing the finger at your prime minister benjamin netanyahu? is he guilty of allowing a moss to fester as long as it apparently, hans is where the face, the week of the choice between going into gauze eyes we now do on trying to be tear in some somehow. uh, yeah, you know, get to terms uh,
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arrives at some terms with the from us which is which allow the co existence you know, the mixture between sufficient mandatory action economic release measures just the weeks before. busy or the so that we actually approve more working permit for gardens in this room. yeah, i think that that's not today put all those concepts to sleep. so we need to change all paradigm. we need to recognize the enemy that we're facing . and we need to act appropriately if we want to leave here as a democracy and our communities must be safe enough to wake up uh with, with the bumper on both sides, the hobbies, uh, at their doorstep. and if they are the doors of their safe rooms in general,
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i know you're a military man, but let me just ask you about politics. if you will, for a 2nd, you say we need to change the paradigm. does that mean? this is real, need to change its government, change its prime minister, a change of leadership the most so far a defensive intelligence, their leadership already claimed responsibility, which means that in due time, as the war subsides, they would probably step down. one about one has to get through, we have yet to hear it from our prime minister. and i'm sure that in either vibrant democracy like ours, the company will be mon, it's, it's honest. and it really also passes verde one on the leadership responsibility and accountability of that national level of unprecedented catastrophe. today the is really defense minister, go on, said that there will be no humanitarian pauses in this campaign until all hostages
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have been released. to what extent do the hostages constrain the military's scope of action? a it's a very high priority goal for us to free them to bring about their release into repass rate them back up that code the for the families they're the jews arabs. uh for and as of, of various nations and we want them, we want those back. there are naturally. so let's, let's say a complex situation in which the median 3 pressure helps to apply pressure to the decision makers in gaza. but at the same time, there's also the operational risk in the thomas likes very much to uh, told us and say, okay, your error strikes,
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adjust key dozens of your own hostages. that's part of the psychological one fear we're facing this. this is a pump in parcel of being a terrible a tear organization. got any, a piece of land on on board. let me ask you a for the, the period after the fighting has ended. after her moss, as a military alarm has been destroyed, that's the stated goal here. you know, there remains, of course, the battle for the hearts and minds of palestinians in the territory, as well as into westbank. to what extent can is real div saying the, the ideology underpinning her mos among palestinians. the intended as the fans is a snake, strongly poisonous. these which are the matri side. oh, the major capabilities and the government paper abilities. it's not for as well to
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compete on ideology if this is inc crossed by this being an issue in many aspects, both part of uh of the, by the cmc up or suffer from a leadership crisis. both the, the a in the west bank and hamas in gaza has suffered a crisis of legitimacy. and they, it shows survive in his own way. but if we want to be radicalized or to bring a genuine non g audi audiology to the full front, we have 5 senior society. this is for the palestinians themselves to work out probably with some help of the region on the supporters in our own region on pop is both the peace treaty countries, jordan and egypt, and also the abdominal codes of countries and may be in the near future. so so the
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are in general before we run out of time, let me ask you, i know you've, you've seen the pro palestinian demonstrations that have taken place in cities around the world, mainly in north america. and here in europe, there are calls for a ceasefire in gauze. are those calls are growing, getting louder is real, seems to be losing sympathy on the global stage. how concerned are you about this? so it's concerning, but we need to uh, remind ourselves of what at stake right now. it would be better for the publics in other countries. friendly countries to be better informed not to get along with this from the river to the sea, palestine. we be free or should i say, jewish free, you know, jews free. i don't want to translate it into german. but we understand the
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extermination of aspect of what's from us. the seeking to do is 70 to see that the so called liberals and progressive uh, crowds are going off. that is a pipe dream which seems to be all about tele, duration and freedom. but it's only about genocide and, and actually go cleansing offered you as the initial general us off already on. we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us tonight. please come back and talk with us again, but thank you for inviting kendall white vigils. have been held in israel to mark one month since the hamas terror attack is released gather. did you remember those murdered and those missing? israel says him, aust, kidnapped more than 240 people and is still holding most of them hostage since october 7th. more than a quarter of a 1000000 people in israel have evacuated their homes to escape rocket attacks
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being launched by home, us from the south and gaza. and by hezbollah, from the north, in level as is really forces continue their campaign against the mos in regards of the plight of civilians. their their plight is worsening by the day. the world health organization estimates that more than a 120000 gallons are sheltering in hospitals, churches, and, and other public buildings. now that's in addition to the nearly 830000 who are now living inside school, it has become a daily nightmare. palestinians in gauze i bombarded with is really strikes day after day in for that has now gone on for a month. and now we're tired of. we're destroyed and people have been destroyed. their lives are destroyed, children destroyed women and children,
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dad, all of them. dad. no one is locked in. god. is anyone locked in gaza? no one remains. think god are safe. when i swear we're waiting for death, it will be better than living. as israel have told gardens to move to the south for safety, as it breaks through a mazda stronghold and the not even now, thousands of people are fleeing through the humanitarian caught a door open by his room. but down south, it hasn't been safe. the lifeless bodies of family and friends have become all too common. we came from gaza city, they said it's safe your. there's no safety at all. we don't know how to sleep. everyone's being killed, god is taking the good people. those still alive and garza are struggling to find basic supplies here to drop off families lineup for hours to
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connect and water but it is not suitable for drinking shuffled arcada flow, there's no clean water available. i'd be each person comes with a 20 liter canister and shares it with the rest of their family. a lot. every person gets 4 or 5 leaders well enough to me. it's the same situation every day. they said, well at night it's not safe due to the showing the complete siege on god though it's unlikely to end any time soon. and the longer it goes on to moonlights, at the claim, reminding everyone around the wound of the got to mention cost of today is the 1st tuesday of november, the day that the us presidential election will be held one year from right now. joe biden is running for a 2nd term, but his victory is anything but
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a given. a new york times. seeing the college poll show support from the president has dropped dramatically among young voters, as well as among blacks and latinos bite and is now trailing donald trump in almost every swing state, the very states that carried by to victory in 2020 site's not looking very good today or let's bring in stuff on simon's, he's covering this forest from a washington bureau chef. i'm going to see you. so the po, numbers are they more about trump, donald trump gaming support, or more about joe biden, losing support marcus through subject crest. it's, it's both it's boss, of course, because it is all related to trump pulling numbers up relates to bite and pull numbers down and y square. so that was the, in the past. it is now like this. and it will probably be like this in the coming. yeah, because as you pointed out correctly, one year ago and then we have presidential elections in this country. so now trump
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is gaining support, as you said in 5 out of 6 critical states. so called battle ground states on a swing states. and these are arizona, georgia, michigan, pennsylvania and nevada. the only states whereby and has a slim, slim majority in the polls, and is the most important here behind pulse. this is a, a more in the moment of time, a picture in this moment of time where the flavor is full voters at the moment. the only state whereby it and still is a little bit ahead. is wisconsin. any health? of course, the president and the democrats can't afford this to remain like this, and it's going to be a challenge for them to well, real respect. now again, it is a poll, so don't take it to serious in the year and out that kind of be a lot of lot of things could happen, but it is what it is. and the democrats have some work to do for sure if they want
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to feel comfortable about joe biden, going into this campaign and into this presidential campaign we saw yesterday, donald trump appearing in court to a civil court, a fraud charges against him, and his sons, trump faces what is it 91 felony charges and 4 different us states, according to this new polls. how bothered, or voters by this fact that he, you know, could be convicted? it's the 2nd surprise, them up very so bothered at all. at least, you know, we always had this for the face full of trump, the trumpet there they, they, it doesn't matter what term and what courtroom mr. trump appears. so what he is accused of, they are for him, they will vote for him and there is no wiggling to the right left up or down. but it is the independence. and some democrats are actually, or voters who voted democratic last time around in 2000. and 21 now,
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actually not bothered by mr. trump being accused or standing try it in. as you said, 4 different states. i mean ford truck. the problem here or the challenge for trump is or will be to come out of all of this without a conviction, because as soon as there is a conviction, that's what also the pulse. ang, um, there will be a change in, in, in, in the whole nature of how the voters look at donald trump. if he's going to get to the, the, the surgery phone numbers that they prompted an inside or from the obama white house, former advisor jim natural rod to suggest that joe biden should drop out of the race altogether. when to show you that what he tweed is, he wrote only and job, i can make this decision if he continues to run, he will be the nominee of the democratic party. what he needs to decide is whether that is wise, whether it's in his best interest or the countries. there it is right there.
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so we should have on our democrats, are they questioning whether or not spies and should run to get yes more and more so there is a lot of democrats who get increasingly uneasy with the prospect of joe biden running in this presidential elections. and the overall paradigm here, or the big problem if you want is h is republicans, are doing a really good job to actually, you know, portrayed the term president joe biden as almost the same island in capable of making it through the day slash, let alone the next 4 years of government running your government. but democrats are, uh, yeah, they are concerned. and then do, you know, this is reflected in the poll numbers with hispanics with african americans, black people, and with voters on the 30, you know, these are critical, those, the building blocks of the coalition form, president biden, to win in election in
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a year. these were the building blocks. he relied on in 2020 and how he became president. so if this breaks away because they is just the confidence in his, um, in his age. yeah. you know, to being too old to run the country. uh well then you have a big problem on your hands and more and more democrats get really, really nervous. yeah, i guess age is not a just a number after all, just different assignments in washington. there's always stuff on thank you as well . the day is almost done, the conversation continues online. you'll find this on twitter either. it needs to be news. you can follow me there at brent golf tv and remember whatever happens between now and then, tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then every plan the
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