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of the business, dw news life from ballad. the escape from northern gauze accelerates israel says another 50000 thousands have no flat, that homes. that is really military claims. people are leaving because they understand how moss has lost control of the know. also coming up. marking a turning point in german history, open hatred towards jews in germany erupted on the streets in the 1938th november problem drums, which are being commemorated today. we looked at the dock legacy of that night of
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and just submitted violence 85 years ago, which foreshadowed much for the business dw news on get out. first. welcome to the program. we stopped in gauze where the number of people fleeing south is surging. this is rather intensifies its military operations against thomas is ultimately terry says 50000 people left the north on wednesday, adding that guidance believe how moss has lost control. hi thing for the protection of the white flag in the few hours allotted by israel for safe passage. thousands of people headed south on garza's main highway of these rarely military had been telling people to get out of northern garza since the beginning of their
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campaign against him. off the plan, we left the area due to the intense bombardment we'd been holding on there for $32.00 days. yesterday we made the decision to leave because the bombing was very intense. women and children were terrified and we couldn't bear it any longer. may god help us out, but even on the road dedicated for safe passage, the bombardment is not far away. the situation is davis sang sang an idle organization such as the doctors without borders, say no where in gaza is safe for the palestinians displaced from the north. this is what the weights them in the south of the strip, in con eunice. and as strike broke down, the musk several of the buildings in the residential area were also destroyed. by the way, we're sitting there when all of
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a sudden an f. 16 arrow striked landed on a house and blew it up. the entire block. 3 houses next to each other without any warning. people were just coming and going all of them civilians, an old woman and old man, and there are others still missing under the rubble still haven't been found yet. the 1st responders giving a pipe of finding survivors is not an option. but for many here, there's no hype and no escape. douglas, rebecca just joins us now from the jerusalem. rebecca, israel's prime minister, has again rejected a ceasefire and dismissed fruitful. it's at tulsa on the way on the potential release of several hostages in return for a temporary pause in fighting. what more do you know about this? well, despite that, we're hearing that the tools are ongoing. israel, of course, don't directly involved in the tools with him ask, but working through intermediaries from kentucky and agents, they have been instrumental in the hosted releases that have happened so far.
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unfortunately, we've not say many, and of course the hope that they will be more now this particular deal involved about 10 to 15 people. we believe that they said to me that they will release in return for a 48 to 72 hours cease fire and hostilities in order to allow for the aid to be brought into gaza strip. as you say, israel continued continues to say that they have no intention of any stays foreign to all the hostages have been released, but they are under a lot of pressure to make sure that some of the hostages, all of the hostages come out alive. so i think if a deal were presented to them where some hostages were able to come out, they, they would consider it despite what so the country. but at the moment, we only know is that these tools we're hearing are ongoing. but getting accurate information about just where they're at. is it incredibly difficult because he is
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really military. he says that tens of thousands on now fleeing from northern gauze that because how moss has quotes lost control that what's the latest on the offensive? yeah, what we're seeing now is pretty extraordinary. images of thousands of people toll fleeing from the north of a south yesterday we saw around about 50000 people making that treacherous journey . now these so called safe routes are open for several hours during the day, and they have been for a couple of days now. there yesterday was the largest number that we've saved, as i said about 50000, up from around 15000 people the day before. now military, we know that the military have a for a couple of days now in circles because the city and it's starting to make that push into the city. they will start completely cut off the north from the south. and so they say that her mouse has lost control in the northern part of the street . they also this morning have said that they've made headway, and they've in fact taken over a strong hold image, a bali, a refugee campus,
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a most strong hold. i should say as so, you know, they're pushing ahead with a military aims, but these so called safe routes. they say carlos have been open for several hours each day. and as you can see, people trying to make the most of them though, as we know, even when they get to the south, these areas are not safe. and in fact, there really is no safe place for people in gaza. now the us has carried out and strikes in syria. it's not the 1st time that happens, but still what's the feeling then is re, uh, is this whole situation escalating? well, that has been the concern and the very beginning, speaking to us, very concerned about installation. we've seen them deliver um aircraft carriers into the mediterranean sea to trying to prevent a bigger, wider confrontation. i'm a regional confrontation, but overnight we did hear about that too about and it's really a strike and a u. s. s. s drug for the pentagon saying that they did it in coordination with
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people with the some russian, russian military, the rules operating in syria. and they did it and coordination so as not to try and try to not escalate this further. but we know that israel has also carried out a strong day, and now they have done that a couple of times in the last month. but they have been known to do it in the past . they've been tracking or writing back targets in syria for years. they don't very often come in on the strikes, but that's what we're hearing and that they were so full successful. and of course, this is ongoing tit for tat and the northern board of it, everyone's watching and waiting about has the incrementally escalating as well. so at the moment everyone just waiting with bated breath to see whether or not this will become a lot of confrontation is really correspond becker, which is that reporting from there was, i'm thank you. we're back today is a frightful date in the jeremy's history,
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november 9 1938 when violent hatreds towards jews erupted on the streets. the programs which were previously known as costano enough though the 9th of broken bloss. it's a reference to the many jewish own shops destroyed by the nazis for shadowed, much less to come with anti semitism on the rise in many countries. today's commemorations of a particularly strong residence. november 9th, 1938, a turning point in german history with hatred towards jews took a further turn into systemic violence by 1938. the nazis had been in power for 5 years. they relentlessly persecuted jews and excluded them systematically from society. part them from working, boycotted their stores to the individual cool want land to the no pin. but punk rooms was the general mood and the buffalo, jasmine rice,
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great interest in jewish assets. the jews could be pressured into leaving the country, emigrating and transferring the assets to the german drawings and then towards the highs. because 5 on november 7th in paris, a desperate young polish 2 had shot. a german diplomat. diplomat died on november 9th. the nazis were an uproar and use this news as an opportunity to lease a wave of violence against jews. a couple of them there was obviously a plan within the nazi leadership to stage the whole thing a stemming from and within the population. so can you remember what it is? so they didn't want to give the order that paul grims bottom if they were riots i, there was no need to count to them or try it and we can comp, then most mundane or just in can you complete the november playgrounds, so 1400 synagogues torched and vandalized, and over 7000 jewish homes, schools and businesses destroyed some 1500 people were killed or died. in the
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aftermath. a memorial service has taken place at a synagogue in central berlin to commemorate the november program since the head of the central council of jews in germany is of shows to is due to speak. the surety followed by a speech from john slot would have sold several more of the ceremony and its significance. i'm no joined uh from the outside or that synagogue binded up used to split through, corresponded and you know, how's and, you know, even before that is really a mazda will broke out, germany has been seeing an increase in just submitted incidents. and they seem to be increasing yet to get in. the very cynical view of standing in front of was attacked a few weeks ago. tell us more about that. yeah, so we have seen a rise in anti semitic incidents over the last few years, god and them. this is of cause extremely worrying for the modern german state. that
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often rules says that the never again means that everything must be done to protect jewish life in germany. and that the modern german stage is actually found it on that principle that jews needs to be protected and that the state of israel needs to be protected. so the rise of anti semitic incidents in previous years had been from the far right, right wing extremists and incidents have been searching also during cove. it we so and a tremendous rise as well in conspiracy theories accusing jews of too much power in the world. and now of course, the israel, how must 4 is pushing other people to the streets as well, with incitement of hatreds. and as the jews, the german state is doing everything you can to protect synagogues and also jurors institutions. but there is they see a here that the w might be at a tipping point and that civil society needs to do more to make it clear that the
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events from the 9th of november 1938 must never happened again. because of course, that was the beginning of the show. many people call it the catastrophe before the catastrophe. so the extermination of jews in europe. 6000000 jews were killed by the nazis during the 2nd world war, of course. and there is this increased feeling because the jewish institutions who say that they are seeing that, for example, the star of david is being painted on the doors. a jewish parents say here in germany that they con, send the kids to kindergarten anymore without feeling that something might happen. and sometimes we all seen proof. so today, the central commemoration event where the, the president of the council of dues and the german chancellor speaking, is going to take place here behind me in a private synagogue. and that was the target of a, a, an attempted awesome to attack
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a couple of weeks ago. and that was the result of the news coming out of the middle east, where there were reports that allegedly the idea of had attacked a hospital in gauze. and the latest that, of course, proved not to be true. and but never the less, this violence in the middle east is translating into a lot of and girls on german streets, which is why this trend is now being seen. also by gentleman of representatives, the to right wing extreme is still the biggest threat to jewish life. in germany, but we are also seeing this trend coming from is lummus and also from the fall left . i think you need us a sofa uh with me in the studio here strongly regardless um or dw correspondence. shawnee, this is the 5th anniversary of november programs in 1938, which used to be known as costano enough. mm hm. uh. but we don't use that term anymore. what stands behind this name and the name change?
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well, the feeling was because thomas might not be giving, given a explanation of the horror that we've been seeing, you know, and you know, was mentioning this to be seen as a catastrophe for the catastrophe to be cd. the, the beginning of what will later be become an institutionalized system up to semantically a scene effort by the na solution to exterminate the jews in germany and in europe . but the change to the word program, the that the origin of that word actually refers to disturbances and, and attacks on jews in russia, which were very common in the early 20th century, late 19th century. and they were very much like what we're seeing. so with disturbances that were a tax based musically at based on mobs that were just lynching people attacking houses and jewish institutions as we've been seeing, also happening in germany and did the up the name change was to maybe help describe better the big break, the big tragedy that starts on that day. so this as night,
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why was it so significant? any nice painted on it, but it was the 1st it wasn't the 1st sign that the jews was in trouble. it was sort of coming nation, correct? i mean, there wasn't the g throughout, i mean the, you know, that it hits a comes to power in 1933 and this is $38.00. this was 5 years that was have been living in germany under the nazi regime. and they've been seeing their freedom slowly, you know, being, you know, to shrinking and shrinking with measures, getting more and more dire. but in, in 38 we see actually x, you know, that again, we were talking about the systematic effort of, of the nazi regime receipt and 38, becoming more organized in executions, eviction of jews, not from originally from poland, but also german, just out of germany. this was the moment of reckoning, so many jews, if you talk about the meaning of the,
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of the night of the programs. if you talk about the testimonies of choose many german jews living here felt safe. they wanted to see themselves as german of the face of moses. they wanted to see them felt themselves of equal to any other german and all of a sudden this act of brutal violence coming in such a massive hall over germany. that was a moment of reckoning from many of them to realize as much as we kept on thinking. no, it's not gonna happen. it stops, it is happening. we are seeing in front of by some big method we've never seen before. it's not just a change of our names and not just a passport. so just adding the names is an add or saw all sorts of, of ways in which a denazi's use in order to identify jews and single them out and make it less harder. and that's it, that's what i, what i want to talk about because it, it was, it was hardly the 1st big blow for the jewish community. and in germany, the norm about race laws came in, i believe in 1935. correct. and people are off and asking why didn't more jews
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leave off to raise those k and then after 38, still many dues chose a to stay in germany. well, let's 1st of all, let's talk about the numbers that were talking about before the war. and they were about half a 1000000 jews living in germany. and after the war, the allied forces have recovered, documented 15000 of these half 1000000. just to tell you of what happened here in germany alone. going to mentioned the rest of europe and europe and use the question of why didn't they leave? i think that that's something still haunting a lot of a lot of jews. a lot of how could not, you know, how could that they've seen what, what with this country was heading back then. and again, i think it goes back to then seen themselves. many of them were born in germany raised in germany, had ties, business ties and family ties with, with non jewish, german, fulton, for germany and, and as far as the world war, many of them fought and died for what they saw as they only copeland. they could up
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and he, they will be, you know, be getting this treatment and we're also seeing throughout the years slow progress, but also most of it stays on paper. it seems like a lot of good, i'll proceed. seems a lot of badgering and, but it was a violent in the pure sense of, you know, the traditional sense of violence that we used to and they felt the feeling was okay. so yeah, it's gonna, it's gonna, that too shall pass, choose are used to being prosecuted or pressed, or, you know, throughout history and all of a sudden when program and i came to the realization was, this is far more than just, you know, nuances of bureaucracy and and for there are many of them tried to then escape and not to using was encouraging that. but it wasn't happening in a fast enough pace for the germans. and then they shift gears into active systemized, you know, acts of, of exploiting, choosing to that it's eastern part of, of germany and certain, you know, a concentrated mission comes and everything that we know about the holocaust and
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sixpenny and she was so perished in it. and fortunate as not to be going to continue this conversation in a moment. i believe he was of shoes. the head of the central console of jews in germany is preparing to start his speech less listening to that cuz he didn't see the price. you can absolutely, basically it's information costing you on one hand. so let me see the sounds of the mainland by presenting the government's crew, the president, the name of the constitutional court type. take additional x and then he's a one is a virus official, the damage to the boss course. if the peace of mind about the chance person has the the to call ahead and get as israel in the community, i would like to assign them to so. so the receiving nice day for this memorial service is really good enough in me as spy. one day i meant the loss of families of more than $200.00 hostages of come us. i would like to extend
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a particular welcome to you. we think of your day and loved me as i am houses. most of the, more than one says when people imagine devastation and pellets, todd and families, brutally tune upon carinthia from 9 to november. that could mean i sp, and about 9 or the 1978, the rice trouble. now, from what i could also say the same if i were to come from purely po for the true, almost tara items of october 7, implement license. the descriptions of simulating the of us who do you want to understand or choose a feeling these days? what was a fast to understand how the historical poke from your experience has changed, changed thinking, how is the prosecution of to what ever they lately is deeply inscribed in the collective consciousness of series. from the pedals. you want to understand why you the terrorist attack on israel cause is deep trauma,
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payers and insecurities along to these communities in germany. since when you need to understand what is home thing, jewish souls, 85 years after they arrived from of mine. and once again, they see the star of david painted on jewish hoses. see that for i'm going to his job shop. so once again, a tucked an awesome to talk. so to me, to send it to me as it happened a few weeks ago at the best science and the go ahead notes and then i'm sending him jesus, i would like to sign the stage of berlin for the security measures on they have stepped up for this synagogue i would like to ask you to once again take the security measures and see what needs to be done. and you must understand what is happening in people's minds when a more monstrous through the streets, demanding the destruction of israel, and the exterminating of old shoes. a few hours of the most atrocious crime against
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due since the show. it is an attempt to deliberately produce fees and that is why the remembrance of november 9th, 1938. is it so important? and it is not always possible to resign. seem to resist these attempts and intimidation. many people of the jewish communities in germany have such a po, chrome experience. they have the just seen. the pictures of the airport, of the russian region of focus on those mon homes were not uncommon during the collapse of the soviet union. these images are disturbing, but they clearly show that how most of the idea ology of extermination has no limits. those a cold for a day of rage against jews on not only concerned with israel, the images from douglas on the same sort of way or all the jewish life is highly
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protected in germany. that is probably the biggest difference to the 1938. the violence at that time was fueled by the national social is today, the state protect for the jewish communities. that is, it may not message that resonates with dues and gemini. and for these, i would like to thank you here and today is going to be on the wood, isn't it conceivable that such a monster jews could once again take place in germany. it's a multi site to buy some optics open these thorough patriot on tick tock on telecom . 5 weeks ago i would have said account image in 8 or 2. but today i'm no longer so sure i see beautiful. is it really any different when i see pictures of the front of the gates on the evening of october 7, sleep on selecting on these a couple of hours later, a molotov cocktail attack has been committed on this very synagogue protection can
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never be absolute. no matter how hard you try, ladies and gentleman over the past few weeks, i sometimes had the feeling i don't recognize this country anymore. it has been tolerated to possibly lea propagates the destruction of israel and the exterminators number, which is less, it has been tolerated. that's thousands of people was arab immigration background incited by a radical fanatics when to the streets and dumont did all this again. once again, i say it was only a few hours after the risk attack side. by how much holidays, i mean, the mindset of radical islam is who would like to israel and to choose to be destroyed, has a lot in common with the right wing extremists. so this probably is a culture of remembrance that you know, the remembrance of show of each item and responsibility for each real is the heart of this remembrance. the amongst left wing extreme is and in the left wing circle.
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so one can also see the current time for this tradition, including the vision of remembering the november 9th, 1938 or used to be the immunization of jewish people has now given way to the idea of israel as a western colonial states, which is devoid of a mean historical fact in context, what an unholy alliance has emerged in november $919.00 to the 8th was the ultimate demonstration of hatred of jews. and one thing was to, so the vast majority of chapmans would either just stand by and watch the monitors from pedro become perpetrators themselves. violence targeted the symbols of jewish lawyer, but also come and place things such as the countless private synagogues that symbolized the emancipation of jews in germany. private synagogues seemed just like this one is arise to exist as jeremy's reason of state today. they not also means it is an
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extra cleanings to the remembrance of november 9th, 1938. it's all right. it's cruelty and everything that followed the show up. yes, this is the if you say one thing you missed was a say, the other that is the logical conclusion. not everyone wants to hear it the same on not everyone's central not wants to go anymore and that something is out of joint in this country. we can still repair it, but to do that we have to acknowledge was it has gone wrong and you reason please what we have been unable or unwilling to see. this also includes the realization month behind closed doors. anti semitism in germany has penetrated right into the heart of society above or is really related and do submit to is an awesome. as is evident in university lecture holes in theaters and even middle class above and home slow is often october 7th. you still believe that b
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d is just the homeless to pseudo intellectual bible here downtown. but they're also signs of confidence to see a direct is about science, the g $53.00 initiative, which ultimately encourages video. so audiology in germany have wasted, thrown that signature as it is these honesty that we need so badly today. the politics phase 9 to 55 so that i know that politics is sales. i'm a business where we just have like a white you. so these days that can be no doubt when it comes to is right to defend itself. this is not a time for restraint or extension. ladies and gentlemen funnel, we choose cannot be extended to so restrained anyways, when each road is under attack, the jewish community in germany east on side by side. but in our ha, so with the people of israel, that is just the way these are these days. us thoughts are especially yeah,
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ways the over $200.00, how much hostages and the some of these. and we also do monde. this is all a direct to coming from everyone. it is our sales confidence has chosen germany. we spend family today that is specially in times of places we will not be intimidated . that is also one of the lessons of history of the co chrome experience. started we is hired on november 9th, 1938, choosing germany as strong and self confident. i've talked to many members of communities over the past few weeks as well. yes. i was shocked. i'm shocked. i seem to find a great fit for the people told me about, but at the same time i'm also impressed. seeing that coverage and resilience to that community. i have great respect for the work done by the young members of the jewish community, the jewish student union, and others. they have done
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a lot to promote cohesion within the jewish community, even in these difficult times, it makes me look into the future with optimism. so ladies and gentlemen, productions is good and we have one. it is important right now, but we don't want to have shields around us. we want to live freely in germany in our country. we want to be freely in this open society. and even though it seems rather just unrealistic now the formulation of all of which is perhaps older, more important, we want to live freely. we don't want to be dependent on protection. this is my voice, and i will not live this way should be taken away from me. i would like to thank you or for coming here. and i also would like to thank everyone who is watching tv. i'm seeing this memorial service and that was the speech from dr. joseph sousa. the head of the central consul,
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choose in germany, and be follow this memorial ceremony a bit further. this music coming up in the, in the studio. and suddenly let's discuss a, briefly, this, this beach by you was, if she was that this on this very special day and more than one way special day. what stood out for you then? well, you know, i think the key and you know, so, so important in order to understand what's happening in the last weeks is him talking about jewish trauma. how the events of october 7th have ignited that have made that re surface. and i think, you know, many times the discussion about the israel, about some, at least it's very contested. it's very heated. it's very emotional for people. and in terms of often mixed, you know, can we be, could.

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