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the suicide, the head of the central council of twos in germany and the follow this memorial ceremony a bit further. this music coming up the in the studio. and suddenly let's discuss a brief you this, this, each by you was if she was that this on this very special day and more than one way special day. let's do that for you then. oh, you know, i think the key and you know, so, so important in order to understand what's happening in the last weeks is him talking about jewish trauma. how the events of october, 7th have ignited that have made that the surface. and i think, you know, many times the discussion about is real about the middle east. it's very contested . it's very heated. it's very emotional for people. and in terms of often mixed, you know, can we be critical, you know, against, as well. and so government without being into submitting and how do we do that?
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and the feeling was that the response of the jewish communities around the world and in israel has not, you know, let, given enough space to, to let this discussion happen. but if you want to extend the psyche, the motions that are, you know, connected to all of that for jews, this is what it was. october 7th, the, the trauma, the feeling of nowhere is safe. our very own homeland that was built is not safe, but also we've seen a rise and then to submit to a tax all over the world in europe and the us in south america following back. that brings up these memories of the 30s that we were just mentioning and you were talking about how come jews were not, you know, in 38, that was after several years of center. nice. it was you how come to did not escape . and here there's a feeling even when we did escape, we made it to our own homeland. we're still not safe there. and the feeling of no where is safe. you know, that is the root of the jewish trauma, that it's just a is trying to maybe convey it to the public,
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to the wide audience in this speech. what stood out for me was this one sentence of when he said a diagnosis in a way about germany as a jew, living in germany, a german jew saying something has become on stock in both the country. that's good . me a bit. what do they mean by that? so again, we're talking about the deep sea or the jews, feel it in germany. the background in october 7th, and it has its own new climate of, of the this course that he brought. but if we took about 5 debt, for example, in the last 2 years we've been seeing them grow, that's the far right. the exact policy that's been served. correct? correct. the tentative for dodge on the far right party in germany. i mean, other political parties have been very clear in and it's in their objection to it, but the public does not necessarily follow. we've seen that go in and, and numbers. and we're going to keep in mind, you know,
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that because of discussions bring us into the an interest. it was mentioning the far of the extreme motivated muslim tardies and incited crowds. but that in the same time, statistically, most of the tax onto a institutions are held by extreme rights activists. you know, most of them to semitism, to choose, have enjoyed in europe in germany. they acquired by, by germans and christian christian term is if we have to bring the religion into that, then they're not necessarily muslims. and this is something we need to keep in mind as well that we see now this, this what, what the, the cause of conflict is bringing up. it's coming from all different places. and again, how do we differentiate between the gentleman criticism of israel and what we're seeing is when they're calls to in the late israel and choose where they are. this is beyond the did with criticism of what these are in the army forces, and they just are. the government is doing garza, this is where we draw the line. and also we've talked about the, the, the right wing,
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the wiping anti semitism. we talked about mazda meant to some of this, but the jews apparently also coming under attack from a different direction. if we look at the american universities, but what's happened that untruths has mentioned it in his speech as well as is, is onto semitism, not only on the extreme left, but also on the model of left. now what does he mean by that? well, we've seen that we live in a world of, of social media, of tick tock, videos, you know, and you've got to take a stand and you've had it before or against. and you've got to decide within seconds. something in the discourse is very flat, something and this discussion is, is very flat. it doesn't let the complexity where the truth is and where life is exist is. and this is partially what we're seeing also with, you know, in diversity doesn't in the states. i mean, i think students have always tended, you know, especially in america, you look at the history, they've always tended to be more liberal. and that's of course, great um sorted out to you with the palestinian cause. and there are many jews all over the world and in israel, who would agree that should be a vehicle for pal city and state that agree on that's very principal. but again,
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we're talking about how what would that entail when people chant from the river to the sea, palestine will be free. i'm what does it mean? well, you need to ask those people what they mean, but on the surface it seems like it means there is no room for jews in this. in the land of is around the land in the, in the, in the stretch of land that is called palestine historic palestine. so that would initiate a mean bein elation of trees, existence or zionist existence in the state of israel. so that's something again a, i'm not sure what people, you know, we're talking again about how, how people stick to the slogans. and this is a very, you know, complicated conflict. people don't always know that in and out of it. but that is what the fact of it's being interpreted as if you ask susan israel is when they hear that slogan. since today is the day over members 85 years ago, often november programs in nazi germany when jews what, what tact and synagogues, and enjoyed phases,
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businesses towards just to remind of you is why we're talking about this. but she also mentioned what happened in a darkest on, i mean, we saw of 85 years ago molds of germans attacking a jewish people, george businesses and synagogues. and what happened in august on this month that store and apple actually hunting, seduce, does recognize that as a flight coming in from to the effects. i assume the of the rights on the so they'll be jews on it. so some of them in an expert, we think of definitely, i mean, the semitism in russia, you know, we were talking about the word program which originally comes to describe the disturbances and to attacks that, that were taking place in, in the territory of the russian empire. on jews, and that is exactly that, you know, the, the, the incited mob looking for jews wherever they are, for no matter what that means, some of the people who are on those planes. so people who are living in the area who travel to israel back and forth, all sorts of reasons,
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and that doesn't matter anymore, either their citizenship verify their part, you know, their contribution to the society in which they live. it's which could be the passion, one. it doesn't matter anymore. now they're juice and therefore they're prosecuted for that. and this is exactly what we talk about when we talk about end to semitism . it doesn't distinct between anything else. you know, once you become a jew, that's the only thing that characterize you and nothing else matters anymore. and that's is that there is a very, very slippery slope that we need to be very careful of. and i have to say the german government is very much aware of that, and it's put a lot of efforts in the last week to, to draw that line, to show solidarity with israel to draw the line. where is the discourse, you know, going beyond what it's legitimate to say, and also at the same time trying to say we facilitate, we allow demonstrations, the show of grease and pain until the data, the with the palestinians. these things should not be, you know, contradicting. yep. so tons of older shows is just entering the podium that to deliver his speech less listening. so they got the stuff,
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the image, the tuesday, they got the bonus president central president engines is one of the things that end of call them into the dentist from the see our president of the federal kind of slip because it done to send us the president of the federal constitutional court will draft the overall esteem and best and pros or leave a colleague and hopefully did colleagues from the start of defense phone just talking to the copy and the federal states. my name is deemed, i'm guess of on a lady some sense for me. i think if i'm even gone to like the high some of you of the puffin prices, what's the thing is like, oh no i'm, i'm to defend his memories of the night on some of november, 9th, 1978 from baldwin, didn't go, didn't defend me again, just as from behind the cause of his family. have i missing key the 15 year old boy
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. so he's sitting there, go care from. pretend sconces say that the being village. that's after 9 released to he does. crawley of told them everything was destroyed. the wooden benches were smashed that says to the pencil, and he talked about the windows being broken on some and i need describe how you felt the fear of being killed. he said it was a normal day in the morning when he 1st went to school. i assume it's hard to hear in the 2 day rooms and i go with as i'm in come, we can gather once again the base science integral. and this is due to the special situation of this building. it is surrounded by many of the building on the public trade to state notes, to the data set fire to the synagogue. they were afraid of other houses catching fire to close them. you can flip them. it is really amazing. thought this building was in time to ashen,
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and it has something to do just with finding the trivial situation for of the building situation. no neighbors was there to help the people, nobody came to protect this building here, front end process. so it is free for the not you not enough for more and do you have an officer that might subsidize this from the nystrs 10, some of november 1913, 9. 12 when they were broken. glassed on the streets throughout germany. when to each time a lease was arrested, puffing up the test was there was no open protest. vinegar include the zip is from there, which is the few courageous men and women. the rest of the germans just remain silent. a saga from doctor baldwin and many times the coast full generation of what they say as to when the jewish families where accepted and
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rested and mad at monte name are not the 2 logins set after the war. it's a bit of logic and logic of a step by step destruction of a society right into the middle of the atrocities of so people always able to turn a blind eye and say, it doesn't affect me. it just affects the, you know, this often times she's in fossil the people. that's the nazis to come with disabled times because when the nazis says, the rest of the companies, i didn't say this thing. i was the communist when they arrested the social democrats. i didn't say anything, i wasn't a social democrat. i said to give access to work when they arrest the trade union this i was silent. i wasn't to trade unionist when they got the jews. i was silent because i was no damages as the mature when they risk me, the publicity, and there was nobody left to protest against my interest via ladies and gentlemen.
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under them we on the others, the others that i know part of our community. these kind of like is the subdivision for that is the, didn't like some of the society, a catastrophe where intolerance in humanity, stats as marketing email i once described. it's in kind of unplugged the necessary and central on. so this is given in the 1st sentence of our constitution. the dignity of every human being is inviolable. this is not just a state, not just on the i'll. this is a task for the elf coveted 50 met. it is uh, consecrated to defend human dignity. once i keep getting the title, going to be active and stand up against marginalization and structuring societies in those as well with us and not with us from the marginalization has affected the choose over centuries on time. and again,
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even here in democratic germany and complex. and so even though the show took place in this country and was committed bunch i'm is it is a shame to it is the same and i feel deeply ashamed of myself and lives on wednesday should be the 2020 three's a here of and once again we see the star of david on the rolls of his house. okay, the well, in order to marginalize the julie citizens and mock dash homes and houses when palms is being celebrated full, the terrorist attacks and other states when choose men and women are afraid to openly about to leave and show their culture and religion to use the fundamental rights and be then become members of our society here. and then once possibly, once again, the synagogue is locked in. the synagogue here is once again a time,
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85 years after the pulled enrollment is in the top of november $919.00. so that is mr. schuster, i'm good, as you said, the something is out of drawing politic, smart tv, videos. it does not. things come to the fun. let's play a role with it. i'm the same. it isn't. comes from the right or the lift. weighs it is imbedded in the art boxes for the fun, how it works or scientific discussions, whether it comes from inside or roadside germany. any form of anti semitism is poisoned for our societies on just as we see in the islamist demonstrations, we have not toner raising on to send me to as we all know where to start on this 1st question, i find it is all about fulfilling the problem is that we have given time and again in the decades of to 1945,
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the problem is starts from good and that is the foundation of a democratic germany. the problem is never again, this 1st question was, this problem is, this must be fulfilled by us yet a know some of them for i'm often not only ways words we have to the tools we have to take as much as never again means you just need to physically protect jewish communities and institutions you have on this president, providing this protection as you said, to the federal president, the obligation of the states and also 9 society, but dr. known as no do not realize who you are right. mr. solution and thoughts from his dues in which i am and listen, have to leave stuff on uptake behind, sealed, so all the time that this is not, that's the color of the never again also means that the police on the traditional opens need to find consistent late here come kind of put each implement
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the little kind of go to, i'm not saying no cultural background, no political conviction knows so called post colonial assessment of history come be used as the reason to murder on still to the innocent people and celebrate this mode of any form of anti semite semitism because the parent who is propaganda and n, she'll monitor to, well just to be eradicated to this quote. in the insights on december, the decatur will have to be within long stats under persecuted side of mtc. we have a clear cut regulation and to send me to some is a reason not to be given german citizenship but never again. there's not a word that applies to the streets from that and this quiz 5 summers of 7 talents. also it concerns the virtual space. this is actually like a form of
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a month where i geology is a being formed. and um, is this why people are discriminated against us? we in denver and that is why it is so important for us to be consistent in everything we do on the for every but in most of the most no anti semitism, all often hunts like just it is a crime and it also affects the rises is people who is this play on december because we to stay in germany on line come from. it is very good non services we have now the digital services act and we come insist on the big i platforms to stand up against anti semitism. it is necessary to have such a loyal in europe because such insight, mental hatred is the danger for the basis about democracy and never it can mean sorts from that. we have to keep the memory alive of the crime against humanity.
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the show, uh good fish that we have for you sort of responsibility and everyone who lives in that country and everybody wants to live in the country. you must accept this responsibility and seeing it as they have very personal own responsibility. it is the foundation of a democratic society. the shakespeare fund problem was by 30 deep understanding of the social on historical responsibility has to be towed in schools, universities integration courses, and it must be part of the day to day life. you only get notes on his doors so that the young generation will understand historical events and then beaver is contemporary witnesses. i no longer live from spending. and we need to read into many, even those people that have a totally different cultural background and had been told about this. so in the countries of origin in a totally different way. but at the same time, we should,
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we should not accept side so that other people in our society wishing to get, let's not to have any less people of muslim face systems. if i had switched and we'll cut our free and democratic part of the constitution, our older product, thoughts do mom's tolerance and diversity. this is the foundation we need to defend of never again, that also means friendship and the lions we've had through district. we could says where to 6 know to about 5000 times from the old phone events that happened on october 7th. 7th. can lead me to one conclusion. for us, germany's place is at the side of israel. israel has the right to defend against the ball for reasons the terror of homos tyra that killed innocent people, tara murphy, the to kill men, women, old ones,
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and children or that in mind, terrorist and start as either one of them. this wants to destroy israel and only citizens compassion of feelings. we find on somebody in a different one or people that have lost friends and family members. i was thoughts, i can the, with the people that are still afraid about the face of their loved ones, like advice, loved ones that are still being held hostage by the time of resigning from even countries per month visit this 1st, when i visited israel, i could talk to some of the family members as of august. the deep concern, the pain, this is something i remember forever. the bonus we deal with the federal government is going to do every se lunch team to tune them with the guys we can as to make sure the hostages farms will return to their homes. our friendship with israel also
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means that we false to exchange between german, these and israel is whatever post civil use in count as the volunteer services in business on culture, science between states, institutions, unable between a society deals of bypass. it is this deep relation that we're going to use to stand up for a jew ripple sustainable the door to this to he's in the middle east, never again. and also means we stand up against age, right, for example. and that is why a very happy and many or citizens everywhere in germany have shown their solidarity with the victims of how most have arisen during meetings rallies, and even in social networks. that gives me hope and mind it strengthens our society . okay. he said i, i would like to think leslie,
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that's stand up for him on. if i need done with him, ladies and gentlemen, thoughts done on the thought. i would try many boxes, i'm sure is based on the creation of or our societies, people of jewish faith, of, of course, part of our society. and to get that we have to stand up against her and hatred. never again. that is a promise that's still how it's true. we're going to fulfill that promising today, tomorrow, and for ever thank you very much. and that was done as well. so it's that, that's so many memories and you know, the problems of 193885 years ago today. and we're going to be hearing a jewish prano. a good thanks to the city of the show. going to the civic center, i'm slacks and these are the
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is the uh um the show who is the who. mm hm. and it says no toner uh. 2 2 0 goodness, who?
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shoes in the i did not lose a to see him. oh, to the side is here in this study. what can you tell me more about this problem? yes, we're hearing a pair called animals. i mean the merciful god. it's the traditional prayer center and funerals. originally, it's in eastern europe for choose. it had had several alterations following several tragedies of the jewish people. and after the holocaust, they've got it's less alteration which we are now hearing this kind of display disposition. now by the read by who was the federal my mind of the armed forces of germany showed me like many other pairs of just calls for a better life. after life for those who diversify god has taken to
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his cause a boob. as soon as it's connected to the to show she has been calling all threes, cruise beth, call a soviet and all of the of the 100 see my toilet. and it was really in the show room hold you bosh. and mom is the well, the most should a, let's see. so is these days of all fucking the vote. yeah. he but is he not deep? uh, so uh, i totally knew who will be. so you should be all safe as the of the day miss humbly. and i'll certainly envelope me. you must. i'm it is we have heard the rep. i add the names the long list of jewish settlements and towns and board directly had during the last attack on october 7th into the pair be naming
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each and every of these many jewish towns. so were head on october 7, name. oh, tell me yes. do you the the see the key in the, uh the, the, the, the, the so they saw the nation multi is oh no, you know, uh to the own who the issue on the amount of these cable is uh, uh the who uh who, who, who,
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who use up the on the lawyer, the shiva who they lawyer calls come most who, who don't know who she is here on a movie on the cooling, who condition the tall and as you go the youth god, this should mesa, blah b l m v that i'll see you ok, the only small who, thanks you base tell you on over to tell you it is going to be a visa uh got a all these mancha the, the name of the. 1 haitian a hill above me, but uh uh, let me, uh, let me uh, you know, but uh for the each, the, the, the, the, you to them, um the most, the, the, the, the, uh, the, the tall uh, shouldn't make it a good shot barry's clue that
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a me to call it bill philip. the issue the lucian based uh, oven is came out to uh, meet on the be all in. uh, the lou um you have shane la moda of administrative value. uh huh. they saw the email, let him know the code you saw it available and also show the home. uh who. yes it is. uh um, on big movie i could use the new um the best price. that concludes the ceremony of a remembrance here in a cynical concentra berlin and our chief political correspondent. and you know, honda is at that synagogue and has listened in to that
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speech and i'm still we, it's funny, we're honest, corresponded here in the studio to talk about this a sermon and you know, that's stop with you. what stood out for you and the chancellor speech a little of swords in whose beats reiterated um that there can be absolutely no room for anti semitism in germany. and of course as this is of deep concern for the jewish community living in germany here. israel hamas war has intensified something that we've seen over recent years already, that there is a rise of anti semitic incidence that is tangible. and so the jewish community has been warning that this trauma is b is resurfacing essentially. and or last was reiterated that the, the german society has to do everything. you can to make it clear to everyone that this is not going to be tolerated. after all you said, is one of the founding principles of the modern german state,
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gemini promise that this, the nazi atrocities will not happen ever again. many politicians have echoed that also today at the start of the german parliament, never again is now the saying and all of sorts that it doesn't actually matter whether it's on to some it isn't comes from because we have to keep in mind with everything that's going on in the middle east and we've all the, the, the, the, i'm go that's also being seen on german streets here because of that right wing extremism is still the biggest threats to germany, security. and that is also where the majority of anti semitic incidents are coming from. well, i've chart says it doesn't really matter as it can just be no room. because if you see that the groups are being marginalized and he said, we all seeing the star of david again on was here where jewish people live in gemini, that is the beginning of intolerance. and that quickly can lead to the demise of society. now talking about foreign policy, he says.

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