tv The 77 Percent Deutsche Welle November 11, 2023 3:30pm-4:01pm CET
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in 45 minutes on d, w, we are all set and we're watching closely. we all seem to bring you the story behind the news. we're rolling about unbiased information for the 3 months. done the hello and welcome to another edition of the 77 percent. you already know this is the show dedicated to africa is youth who are the majority on the continent. i am your host, eddie micah, julia. you can already go on your knees and say a prayer because we're going to talk about religion. religion can be a waiting for people to seek solutions. so find in that piece when life hits them with so many challenges. but some preachers can exploit this. let's find out
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and new episode of our series dig into. we investigate the phenomenon of faith past best use god, read the gospel to manipulate and exploits vulnerable. people now show by hands. if you've said a prayer today, i'm going to show most of you raise your hands, and that's no surprising because religion please in major role in many african societies, religion can be simply described as a system of faith and worship, where people communicate with the spiritual power or powers by fig prophets and the number i call churches continue to flourish by taking advantage of von rouble people. in south africa, we expose some of the most heinous sexual offenders in the countries of recent history, who commits crimes in the name of god. these go to coming time when
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fonts process we were last talk statements. the preferred statement is happening now right in front of us. the bible sees several positions and give to the poor. in recent to you as a was a self proclaimed prophets of come to see the follows and cherish wadley professions will continue to be rich or continue to be. multi millionaires will continue to be multi billionaires and will continue to preach of jesus who died on the cross was fucking miracles and prophecies post as a lowering costs of believe us into the charges to save from the money and abused them all to leave a life of luxury the it has it has broken, right? this is what we came up every day. ok. at least the church and i'm not
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in the name of the church mafia is out to destroy you live the only one that was really perfect. oh yeah. not only is what they do, the false prophets are everywhere, but the victims also unite and ton against them. time to say shit is on the does not go into churches anymore. too painful of the memories. for these interview however, she agrees to meet in one close to a home in johannes, back of the gifted single vividly remembers all she and the young girls were lou it by gospel music to join the congregation close to the home
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called the jesus domino. international church i think that's for me. that's what gripped me into the church. i always loved music. god wanted to be a singer for as long as i, you know, could read and, and just hearing them and how the saying they sounded like angel. timothy almost also the touch phone, the set up a single gospel choir called buns of the he met sunday on the left. in this for quoting a lead singer, she moved to the touch of drones together. we talked to the young women, they believed these to be this type of this thing. 3 is just to realize that my tulsa was really intention, fungible and away from the friends and from the costa, started to sexually abuse them. when he rips only for the 1st time, she is a mind unconvinced that the past couple months, heavenly pa, is what
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i'm saying is certainly has time for statements. no questions. the i'm in my life here, not too late. in the 1st we spoke 1st of all about the terrible situation in gaza, engorged on the journalist in this news. now, you know, as journalists know, how deeply losing, how concerning this is for the german government. but once again, i'd like to emphasize here in my law that no one here in europe can be left closed by the terrible of images has been seeing 9 in the last few weeks. i'm see small children covered in blood from, from under the rubble of their building or in hospital, not knowing where their parents are. and then of course, it doesn't just affect you as a politician. it affects you, obviously,
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in my case as a mother. and i've also heard here provide something of the top funding i heard in jordan be a few weeks ago for publish when the refugee is just how many people here in the west bank are directly impacted on by this because their relations have died and gas on their own could damage. one of the things cool, who has a family of 66 children, all found under the ruins of their building under the rubble of their building. and no one knows when they can even bury the father who hasn't just lost his only son, but lost his wife in gosh, i've been man, and these are no people. these are these guys. his father's family is as i met in israel, just after the 7 of the year of target, where a man is worrying about his speech to wife and to doctors daughters. so where you
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don't know did science and that's why i'm us. and so i'd like to repeat what i've said before either like is, is worth this, james and every person in escrow and every person, a polish fine house or a right to live in peace and security. and after obviously gosh, which could humans unimportant? the for the people in gaza now are the humanitarian pauses in fighting, which is why i as the german foreign minister has pushed so hard for humanitarian parts in the fighting. so that age can reach the people in guys almost about and these are missing, dr. pauses have to be expanded, you need to ensure that the most important things, water, who demands medication food reach to people who need them and gaza in the south and, and then with a lot of things to people need to visit all urgently. the hospital is though need oxygen, they need fewer in particularly the hospitals in the north. absorbing need to have
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a reliable supply of use because hundreds of thousands of people are being treated in these hospitalized over money. 2 buses. germany will continue to drive supply to 2 minutes here in asia, a further talk 38000000 euros on top of what we're already paying. so for 2023 germany, we'll be donating over a 160000000 euros for the palestinian territories divided using these things, particularly because we want you to make this important contribution. i would like to appeal as i did yesterday, as we did in g 7, i would like to appeal in this region that other players in to region provide this kind of funding mine. and if i understand the problem to my law is really was counterparts. you, i'll be speaking with a to tennessee, they'll be emphasizing the money that belongs to the palestinian authority must be
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made available to them. and i'm tired to charge you, particularly because the security of israel is an issue so close to a hard sonya. we need to ensure the sure of the palace turned in all these moments or to see. and then the other lesson on hyundai cultures must be reinforced. must be strengthened, must be capable of acting on it because they are crucial. if an independent palestinian state is to establish, we will know them every meal, every nature of drinking water, every mock package of bandages makes a difference. now for the people in god's, i'm listening a truly product for in people displaced within gaza. and stephen king, for those who have been injured, and the many, many children who are impacted on. so the service definitely by this situation is too much. but for this age to arrives in the i, b, c, monetary and pauses insights. and what we have now is not enough,
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which is why we are working ceaselessly with our partners to ensure that 9 to monitoring aid reach those guys, but particularly reaches noise guys with the you're attending the air bridge one in 372 of these in a 1000000 tons of the age has come from egypt busy, but this is not enough. we are seeing the suffering mentioned in gaza and we feel the pain here as well as the pain of those in the west bank here too, of fearing for the lives of their loved ones. and we see a with them at the same time. we cannot deny that the cause of the suffering and gas is the barbaric attack of how much on the subject of october. see how much terrorism left just desolation, an incredible suffering policy and on is riley's and on palestinians. august of all . this is the tragic choose other,
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or which the hatred of how much alone on the 7th of october and in has created. so as i mentioned, israel is now waiting this word to defend its own platform because there's terrorism containers under the slide. and although in the face of the suffering, a heart, so very heavy and unfortunately we might, it is our responsibility to me as a government, as politicians, we must keep a cool head out. and this is why we're also looking at the political horizon. the upside instances on video ever so far away from the west bank. you too can still probably see the future of the palestinian line must either be best, then it's present and to then it's possible and says that you've got it is also in the interest of israel, one that the palestinian systems and i have a self determining system future in a state of their own sense. i and this is why it is so see that some divided the
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west bank nomics be impacted on by destruction and highland data in here and on wherever you look at the west side, you can feel the tension 8 as manageable yet. fine. and the worst thing would be if this violence were to spread to the bank, this diane law. her attitude must therefore be not to say the clear, kind and see the terror attacks. and violence will not hardly use the increasing violence of radical israeli settlers or something. i couldn't, and you probably can absolutely done violence against palestinians in the west bank must be prevented and frustrating for crimes. and israel has a kia responsibility here, and there's not least to do with the protection of the didn't tell us genuine liability ends because the violence is released. settlers also threatens the
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security of israel. thank you very much. we've just been listening there to other german foreign minister handling, a bare buck addressing the media after meeting with the palestinian leadership palace union officials including the palestinian prime minister and doing i think what the other western leaders, including those from the united states have been doing for the better course of the past 2 weeks trying to balance the need for israel to defend itself with the imperative to help innocent palestinians that again and lena bear, buck germans, foreign minister, i'm now back with our dw corresponded a abraham in jerusalem. what do you make of this statement that the german german 4 administrators made how's you such just trying to strike to balance and she's also trying to reach out to people in this region in that part of the world. she cited
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her recent visit to jordan, where she was talking to posting refugees there for, of course, a post and you and refugees. and people with posting in the heritage are spread across the region and they very much so are affected by what's going on in gaza. that's why you see so much anger right now at what's going on and guys across the region. and she recalled the conversation that she had with the palestinian refugee. they're talking about their relatives in gaza. so she was really attempting to recognize also the anger that's coming from the region because of germany has very good relations with the countries that are surround the surround is really like egypt and jordan. and so she really was trying to, you know, the, the diplomat in this situation, she recognized the pain and suffering of people in gaza and the people in israel, of course, as a result of the terror attacks saying that each life, this is it is worth the same be that and is really life or
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a palestinian life, a big feed for germany as well is the issue of humanitarian aid. and the foreign minister said that in 2023 germany will be, will have given. i mean, we're not at the end of the year yet, but within 2023 germany will have given posting in territories a 160000000 years in a. but that isn't getting to people in gaza right now. and that's why she also talked about the need for humanitarian pauses, so that that 8 can reach the people that needed the most. she didn't talk about a cease fire. remember, there is a difference. and there is a debate between countries at 18 immediate cease fire and countries that are calling for pauses. and so it remains the german position that what is needed now is a humanitarian pause because a cease fire could potentially strengthen from us. another thing that really stood up to you, michael, was when she started talking about violence in the west bank. this is, you know,
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with all eyes on what's going on. and guys are, we've seen since october 7th, a, an increase, a sharp increase in sutler violence against palestinians. settlers that live in, you know, there's settlements are legal under international law. and that has led to the increasing displacement of palestinian a better with communities because of that settler violence. and she said very clearly as, as, as driven has said before that since this is happening in occupied territory, that is controlled by israel. israel has the responsibility to ensure the safety and security of these palestinian territories. this also has a sort of long term, a purpose this condemnation because the powers to the west bank is supposed to form the heart and the core of any future palestinian state. and so if we're just continue in the cycle, we're more we're, we're more and more land is b is illegally occupied or controlled. or if the
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posting is don't feel safe there than that. it's not really productive towards a 2 state solution with which germany has set time and time again is the solution to the cycle of violence. a, a thank you for that. i'm going to ask you to hang in there. i'm going to talk to our dw political correspondent, thomas barrow, who's here in the studio with me. when we get to a is thoughts afterwards. thomas, what did you make of the big box comments? i'm not surprised by what you said because it's not something that you say now for the 1st time. that nevertheless does not mean that it's not important or significant to explain germany's position in all base because there's an immediate goal that you haven't. officials have not only by the way, not bad because for administer, but also the german chancellor or left choice. that is to make sure that 8 is available for guidance, that humanitarian aid can reach gossip. it has to do with the fact that within
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international humanitarian law, that's one of the key principles that people who are effective can receive a necessary aid. and that's the reason why you hear from germany, not necessarily from other countries, but from germany. this sentence of humanitarian pauses. i explained the difference between the monetary and pauses, and chloral versus a cease fire. and that is something that you haven't. officials have repeated several times. they do not necessarily believe that now is the correct time for a permanent seized by a because they believe as experts also say that that could strengthen the position of how much. so that's helping specifically of your money, terry and polls if you will hear that also in the next few days. so that's something that's absolutely vital to understand from the immediate goal the german government might have by the end of the bible. again, stress the importance of looking beyond that immediate goal. she clearly mentioned that this conflict cannot spread to other parts beat the west bank. the issue of
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the settlers that be at 2 other parts of the region. and that's also a way to understand why i don't, and i babble in this trip, which is not the 1st one that she has made sense that will begun. not only went to the palestinian territories, or israel, she's going to talk to is rarely officials off of it, but also visited other countries in the region as well. because it is germany's understanding that this conflict that this will can only be result is some of the arab neighbors of israel are also involved in any negotiation. so that's also important to understand back, thomas, you heard you listen, i was here with you on this that listening to the german for administered, making her plea if you will. she sounded, i would say a tone of empathy there. and yet when you talk to people, at least, you know, telephonically on the ground in gaza, they will say that there is a lot of pastoring going on from western leaders right now. and the issue that they would want to address is whether or not her comments will make any difference in
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this conflict. probably in the media of sense. and if you look at them only those comments. no, they probably just listening to her that bab book will not necessarily have a direct impact on what is happening now in gaza. but it's important to understand that drum unit, especially when it comes to international conflicts or international, was likes to sort of embed itself in the logic european framework and the logic european union. germany has influence as long as it is also part of the european union, as long as it is also part of why the efforts that explains why government officials and in particular the obviously the government for administer. i've been traveling a lot in recent days in recent weeks to make sure that one they can discuss directly with players in the region that can have an impact. be that they can explain germany's position in this. and we can talk about this position as want in a 2nd, and see that gemini can also understand what kind of possible solutions that might
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be to the conflict to the will immediately, but also in a medium to long term on an in a bad book before actually embarking on this trip spoke of the immediate elements, but also of looking at the why the picture of all this because it's ultimately in germany's interest, but not only in germany's interest to continue that idea of a 2 state solution as the most important solution to resolve some of the problems that are affecting the reach thomas. we talked about all the traveling they've been doing the ford ministers and other western leaders as part of the shuttle diplomacy . abraham is also been doing a lot of traveling in that area near garza, and of course, also on the west bank. i want to bring her back in here. hey, i'm, i'm really curious about your perspective here. i do is really is really is who have been suffering from that attack on october 7th. do they want a humanitarian pause from what you have judge or do they want to cease fire or
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something that would stop the firing at least temporarily? i think there's still overwhelming support among his release for this war of the 7th of october with such an unprecedented shock. such an unprecedented horrific tear that was unreached on people in israel that they want this, you know, they want this, their, their safety, their mental safety of being in their own country, somehow restored. and that's why there was over whelming support for that were i would say still to this point and they support it and knowing that it will come at a high cost for them as well. ground operations with the troops going in, in close. uh, you know, in close combat with how much the terrorists will come at a cost. but despite that, there's still support for the work. there's, you know, there's an increasing criticism of the government and been a prime minister benjamin netanyahu specifically because he has, you know,
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has yet to take responsibility for the security lapse that was october 7th. but i would say there's still support for the war. if you look at the families of hostages and i've been speaking to a multiple them over the past days, they have a sort of permanent protest camp. now in the heart of tel aviv. and when you go and you talk to them, they have a slightly so i wouldn't say different perspective, but they want to see a cease to cease for humanitarian pause, whatever you call it, in exchange for the return of their loved ones. so they really accuse the government of not using all of its card is really government their own government for not using all of its court to get their loved ones back. this bears repeating again. we have children among people being held. we have babies, we have older people, people that are ill and you know, as time goes by, they don't have all the time in the world. that's what the families of the hostages tell me. and they have said they, they want to see their government do whatever it takes,
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including exchange of hostages for a humanitarian policies for whatever you want to call it. or even exchanging the hostages for palestinian prisoners. got it there in a very desperate situation. michael, and as far as i can tell, they don't feel like they're heard. that is a uber, him many, many things. i want to come back to the studio here in the dw political correspondent, thomas barrow, and gave you the, the closing words. well, germany's position and i mentioned that earlier has been one that maybe for dr minds, it's clear, it's not necessarily extremely controversial. gemini standing on the side of israel very much. so because of germany's historical responsibility, it is something that government officials have for many, many times stressed of germany has a very special responsibility when it comes to guaranteeing israel's security. but that is a position that may be another part of the world does generate some need to further explain. it is not something that maybe another country is so clearly understood
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why germany has this this position. so that's also a reason why german officials have been traveling around different countries, especially out of countries to explain germany's position. that's one side of germany's position the other side. and we've seen that also for monday and i babbled on the drum and tons of the order i've chosen is telling is really officials in particular they have to comply with international rules of war. that is something that is particularly important that explains drug. and these 2 pronged, if you want 2 sides of its position a. okay, that's a dw political correspondent, thomas barrow. many, many thanks. in the meantime, the conflict continues with no and insight michael local here in berlin. i'll be back very shortly with more news. thanks for being with us the
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