that we have heard that in gaza, they are battles around the hospitals there. have you spoken with your is really colleagues about the backups that are happening right near hospitals and impacting on them. the longest gift this kind of there is no simple response to this complex situation individually. that's why i have referred to the specificities of humanitarian law to view the surface. it is clear that protection of a civilian population and the visions of you might be dug of your life, military and military goals like, you know, i per severely, i know protections are ones that have to be factored in. people as best as possible . every minutes is one or 2 and this means that special locations offer such as somebody to tell them they are going for confidence or not tactics. it's

particularly by the geneva convention and i'm complex at the same time that you have a connection, makes it very clear that if you see 1000000000 locations from sure you to the shot, the lou as a, as shown and that, and we'll see you some time or if there are a commander headquarters there, or if they're smart for someone moves of hospitals, these locations lose theirs and or can lose that special vehicle right? of protection. but i'm using the subject to that. this is why these special locations i don't need to be looked at very closely. we need to look at what is some of the taking place in these locations and what needs to be considered under the geneva conventions and plus cancer among the most vulnerable with an international humanitarian law. israel must adhere to the, you know, as just as any other city in the world. israel also has the right just as any other

state in the world does to defend itself. and this is a difficult dilemma. we find ourselves in now and that was the subject of our discussions. the french president spoke today about the need for an immediate cease fire, among other things to use referred to a bridge that needs to be built. you've had some signals from the outside world today. can you tell us a bit about office is in the nation, making sure we have some at the moment. these are the most difficult, foreign policy weeks because i, it is, it again is i'm, i'm seeing is something that tears your heart apart. and even though you want to jump, i follow one impulse and the impulse of wanting a general law ceasefire is absolutely something i can understand. but move part of

the truth is to look at how i subscribe. this kind of good happens out how much which attacked israel and the 7 does not. tobar will how they will behavior in a situation where the sky each day with reference to israel's or might side defend itself. the question arises, us and whether israel would be able to continue to protect itself against a psychologist, minute attacks because we recognize the issue has the right to defend itself. but at the same time we want to is the suffering and gaza. and this is why we are so vehemently calling for these humanitarian causes fighting which make it impossible to at least end even suffering for that time. but these are not abstract impulses. these are things that are possible now and quickly. i to ease human stuff down and you have to talk to me and these best 3 of them, there's something we have to explain again and again in this situation, even though it's incredibly difficult, this is what it's about in

a difficult moments because it's about saving people's lives by having protected locations by having humanitarian aid allowed into gaza. and by ensuring that there's a distinction made in every measure between military and civilian locations, often with reference to the 2nd part of your question and join the partners that i spoke to in the region waste to that day. very early on earlier in the gulf as well. and there are many states, there was me, mission, stop and come. many most websites are come together as well. i think anyone who has seen the discussions there will be aware of how challenging diagnoses of age this situation is. indeed, all of the member states in the earth and union and are discussing these questions because everyone looks at the situation with their own point of view. and the same is true as well. i think for the summit in riyadh at the moment and that makes it

clear that it is so important that goes, there is no matter where they are on the planet, must not work together and do everything in the power to ensure that human suffering was easy. pretty mention both the lives for people in this room and in gaza must be able to live and secure. those countries who are pursuing this am have to be prepared to take a certain difficult into account. and these are the countries we have to work for. and today in the gulf, in the west bank and here israel, i have advocated and appealed for this, and we'll continue to do so in parcels on monday. if you're watching dw, especially fabrice of chapman, ford and minnes timing of babel,

who's been meeting with his daddy counterpart, you'd icore and intel a v. we were just listening to the live speech. the rescue spoke about germany's insistence on the hostages being really used. it's onboarding support for his dread, but also read to the, to the gentleman position on a 2 state solution for his trailer and godsa, as well as reiterated the civilians in both godsa as well as in sam, have the right to live safely and in security with me now in the studio is dw, politically corresponding palms spiral with whom beacon on back the story. more. thomas, you've been following this visit the latest bible for that she started out in about a 2nd and 3rd should he is and is now in his stroke. what stood out to you about those comments that so this is not the 1st visit, the book makes to the region since it will be gone. it is a very significant visit because it comes to a difficult time in the, in the conflict. something that she, by the way,

also acknowledged. and you mentioned, i think the 2 key words on wavering support. i'll explain that because germany has time and time again. and she did this during the trip. we mentioned this unwavering support that germany has towards, is related to was israel ls security that has to do with germany's historical responsibility. that's something that may seem obvious to many people here in the country, but that's such a they need explaining in other parts of the world in other countries that see the conflict, see the war and a very different light. that's one side of germany's policy on this, the other side of germany's policy, which babel also explained in those statements just now. and the idea is the fact that they're also in a way concerned about the how, how israel is defending itself. so babel gets dressed that israel like any of the democratic countries, have the right to defend itself. but at the same time, it does have to comply by the international conflict rules or international

humanitarian law. that basically means that they has to be a dispute that has to be distinguished between military and civilian a means that your monetary and a must be allowed in the areas of conflict that civilians must be protected. and it meant that she also mentioned under such it's also about how israel is defending itself, so unwavering support towards israel and his real security. yes. but this also, i sense some concern about the way in which that is being done. and i do imagine that that was part of the conversations that you help with different people in the last few days. it's interesting how we are watching hard read to read some of these on rivers and support, but also risk and so on. studies families we hope to talk about is fairly set low widens there. that must be stop. the hood, hood talk about how palestinians must be intuitive. did you feel like that some feedback that could be going to her, it's ready, counterpart,

that is more forceful. then what we have been hearing so far into them. so what was the is and the, and an end to it's all partition. it's not a coincidence that before meeting her is really counterparts. she also went to run my line in the west bank and spoke to palestinian officials that this issue of is really settled. months is something that she also stressed in her talks in the past and in territories that she also mentioned in a press statement that is a concern for, for germany. and i think the main concern has to do with the fact that germany wouldn't like this conflict to go anywhere else to grow any bigger, to affect any of the pots. and that includes the westbound, but it also includes other areas in, in the wide uh, regions something that germany and by the way other countries are particularly concerned about. so it's about resolving the conflict in the immediate time. it's also about finding the solution that can go beyond this audience, pause or pauses as she describes it. and that's also the reason why i know that in

a babble now. but also earlier spoke about this 22 state solution as a solution that you have many believe is the one that can ultimately help bring peace to the region and ensure that is raise and palestinians, and others can live at peace. in this region, you mentioned in your question this idea of a ceasefire versus a humanitarian pause. and i think that's important to explain because germany's position on this has been to focus on what is described as humanitarian pauses. there's a difference between a humanitarian paused on a ceasefire ceasefire. something that's been off by other countries around the world, but you have any has focused on the idea of a humanitarian pause to allow your monetary age to go into into gaza. there is an understanding or decent interpretation that's a major ceasefire, could actually strengthen home us. and that is why gemini and not only do you have any butts, specifically, obviously, in this case germany would prefer so called humanitarian pauses. whether this

will be a solution that goes beyond the media, that's something that will come in the next few days that will involve other countries as well. that is not only something for germany to present. other countries, especially in the region, will also give david hughes on based on many in fact to favor a ceasefire. a not necessarily a sorta humanitarian pause in, in fighting. but this is such a new one of the key elements that's being discussed at the diplomatic level, not only by germany, but also in other parts of the world as well. that of some complex diplomatic, but no diplomatic maneuvering forward. so i'm going down the foremost though, thank you so much for unpacking that foot off the top. you just finished the corresponding thomas spot of the now, just to recap all during the day of the german foreign minister headed talks without a stint in a quarter to prime minister, how much di and other officials, that's just an end to some of what she had to say of to back,

meeting them in my life. so you're not too late in my life. the 1st part we spoke, 1st of all about the terrible situation in gaza, engorged on the, at your earliest indifference. now, you know, as journalists know, how deeply those and how concerning this as for the german government. but once again, i'd like to emphasize here in my law that no one here in europe can be left closed by the terrible of images has been seen 9 in the last few weeks, i received small children covered in blood from from under the rubble of their building or in hospital not knowing where their parents are. so i know that of course, it doesn't just affect you as a politician. it affects you. obviously in my case as a mother, you to consider the policy in the future of the policy and in the line must either be back then it's present and to the next pass. so you've got it is also in the interest of israel, one that the palestinian systems and i have

a self determined system future in a state of their own inside. and this is why it is so that some divided the west bank nomics be impacted on by destruction and highland data echo into here and on wherever you look at the west side, you can feel the tension 8 tangible vs fine. and the worst thing would be if this violence were to spread to the lot. do y'all do splits the corresponding palm? a spider was filled with us. you were just listening to on lena babylon, speaking off to meeting and about us and the party. or again, some emotional statements the she spoke about not just reacting as a politician, but also as a model. what do you make of both statements? it's important for germany to explain its position to the palestinians and also 2 countries in the wider region, especially our country. we already spoke about this unwavering support that germany

shows towards israel. and that's something that israel and his radio officials will certainly be pleased about. but it's also something that domain needs to explain to the palestinians and to our countries, and especially beside them, whether we were mentioning earlier about how you can have that on wavering support . on the other hand, on the one hand. but on the other hand, also ask these really counterparts about the how about how they are defending themselves and the need for them to respect international rules and international law. so it's important for the job and for administer to have been in the palestinian territories to have visited also now. but in the past countries in the wide the region to explain this position that germany has. and also to explain what kind of influence germany might have. and when we talked about the kind of influence that germany might have, might have, it's important to stress that maybe germany on its own does not have a lot of power. but germany, as a key member of the european union,

does have influence and may have influenced it. the reach got this political correspondent, thomas spider. beth, thank you again for holding that story for us. and with that showed up to date you've been watching specially profit from tennessee, more news, i don't see how i'm such as fall. thank you for being one of the hot tips for your package. the zip code is the cds and some great cultural memorials to b, w, travel. we go the out west indies down.