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or israel claims the mazda is using hospitals in garza for cover, including kansas biggest. i'll see for a hospital saying that members of the terra group are hiding among the patients, come off of leaders using tunnels underground as a war root. a mouse has denied this as these rarely war against them off enters its 6th week, is really forced to say that they reach the gates of the chief a hospital complex is this for about to take a decisive turn, bringing israel closer to its goal of taking out time off. and what about the people? the doctors, the sick trapped inside? what is about to happen to them? i'm bring golf and berlin. this is the day the we us for i need immediate pauses. i'm saying that not a single one, but 71 fours were deliberately doing everything,
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everything in our power to target the terrorists, and the civilians as happens in every legitimate war, are sometimes what are called collateral damage. we need, you might of terry and see sparks, and we need an urgency. if we want to have peace, we have to destroy from us. this is what israel must do in this is what is a will also coming out. remember form where he was u. k. prime minister, david cameron, the man who gambled on breaks it and last, well, he's back as the you case, new and very unexpected for in secretary? well, i know it's not usual for a private list, i'd say come back in this way, but i believe in public service. that's why i'm getting the job. and i'm delighted to accept to our viewers watching on cbs in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin today with the biggest hospital in gaza and on the verge of flat lining is it was war against the mos has
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injured its 6th week. and hospitals inside guards are, are now on the front lines on president. it is rarely rocketed tax and force tens of thousands to flee their homes with no where to go. many are sheltering inside hospitals and that includes the el cheapo, a hospital, the largest inside the gaza strip. doctors have described the situation inside as catastrophic with their power. patients are reportedly dying. surgery is taking place under the light of cellphones outside. israel says that its soldiers have reached the gates of l chief. we have more industry for stitching up a head wound by the light of a mobile phone. doctors and hospitals in northern gauze, struggling to save patients. here too, at the i'll, she, for hospital they running out to few water and medical supplies and
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a vulnerable to the ongoing is really strikes and the area was with them and the, the last examiners to boast with that i seal is another bravest who assisted it goes with that was thought to get the director today until the 28th was to be said as in the sense that it goes on to do with kids to go night. there is no service for the video to. busy vision and dental office in israel denies targeting civilians and says that this for to just pre students ministry provided the al, she for hospital with 300 lead to the fuel for its generators. but that it was rejected by him us we offered actually last night to give them enough fuel to operate the hospital operate incubators and so on because we have, we obviously know the value with patients or civilians at all. and i think every
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civilian deaths every day be, is a tragedy. but that tragedies should be placed squarely at the responsibility of hamas that is keeping its military installations inside hospitals is command post inside hospitals inside schools, inside and where you and facilities and so on. the director of, i'll, she, for his denied rejecting the few, which he says would not have been enough to power the hospitals generate as for even one hour. the lessening situation in northern goza is forcing thousands to flee southwards, mostly on foot. even some health workers have made the decision to leave a little of gun stuff in the on the left side of the situation last night. first of every 10, very extreme smith, one of the bomb being targeted schools and hospitals. i'm that i work for the office of the administrative health at the hospital and then the on the amount of
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this i left yesterday. the certainly, i mean, the hospital i worked on that. and that's why today is that i did not go to work awful through my duties and those departments, tens of thousands of already fled. the ongoing missile strikes and ground operation . israel is coming under increasing international pressure to minimize civilian suffering garza. so what is happening inside chief a hospital to night to find out i spoke by phone with the head of surgery at the el cheapo. doctor mar one of those odd it's yes it is inside the hospital. no one can get outside your income inside just is special. the using the ambulance is no, i'm but i'm, she's getting from that she fall or coming for the she falls within. we are in the tennessee and mall and most of the building on it for the state and off, you know, water for even best scenarios or no, uh, no food on so, and we are having here and this supposed to be done now around $600.00,
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enjoy the will, but okay, the beauty is in the hold of the deposit loss so that we are having now will go out of temporary place. and from there in unit i c unit, we are having babies 56. there is a live and they are live in lucky that goes out there must be a be out of list in one on the main. yes, you can see it that we have to be that because the lady why we move the from the unit and unit because days lady boom bought the depth to generate that and due to lack of focus again i'm most so folks are generally most of the lots of dispute with the babies and also from the black toner and just generate the oxygen, we need to maintain festivals. and secondly, we need the fuel source and you know that those did at the addition to that, we have this is that in the case of damages units been there, since we're adding to the end distance between, i'm saying uh and they have to put them on the machine for the kidney dialysis. yes . unfortunately for the day we have not succeed the machines because we need the
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state and we need that. he said he met the doctor or we cannot do this. then she says that what is dr. mar one, a boost on the head of the surgery at el cheapo hospital speaking with me earlier on june now by the middle east. analysts. nathan parole, mister pro, is a former director of the error of his really project at the international crisis group. he's also the author of numerous books on these really tell us you need conflict, including his latest, which is called a day in the life of a been so long anatomy of a jerusalem tragedy. this is still, it's good to have you with this tonight. your book, it starts with the traffic accident, a palestinian school bus, overturns children are killed and, and from there you describe the tragedy. that is the, is really the palestinians in their conflict. what goes through your mind when you, when you see the images of these hospitals in gauze and now places of healing that
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are now places of, of suffering and death. you know, i've, i've never felt this much despair over the future of israel palestine. this is on a scale that we have not seen before, and it is a risk tragedy. i mean the, the amount of deaf, the amount of civilian deaf, 74 percent of those killed in gaza. now are women, children and the elderly. and we need to find a way to stop this immediately. i want to let our viewers know you are a jewish american. you've lived in the us, you, you now live in jerusalem. on october 7th, the the terror attacks of that. um, did they change your perception of where it is that you live right now?
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absolutely. i mean, uh, you know, i think the, the, is the consequences of october 7th in this war. for both societies cannot be overstated the, there, this is going to be a decades long effect of this war on, on both societies. and for the 1st time in my life, you know, i can imagine civil on civil conflict. i can imagine this spreading easily to the west bank. it's already, we have a huge surge of a violence of settler violence in the west bank. over a 1000 house unions has been displaced just since october 7th. but what we're seeing right now is really something we have never seen before, and israel, palestine. mm hm. and what you're, what you're describing there, what you fear could happen. that would be a, a victory for her boss with that, with the leaders. if awesome, said that one goal of the october 7th terror attacks was to create
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a permanent state of war for israel. yes, i mean the, the victory for him mass will be 1st of all, if they receive a massive prisoner exchange, as many as railways are, are contemplating doing right now, that will have been a political victory that no other palestinian political party will of achieved the issue of palestinian prisoners is something that touches every palestinian family, even if they don't have a member of the extended family in jail. now every excited family is had members in jail, we're talking about, you know, 40 percent of the adult male population that's been imprisoned at one time. and so that would be the 1st victory for him us and the 2nd victory for him as well. and simply to be, to survive this war and remain in place israel as of allying that that won't be the
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case. i don't know any serious military analyst who really believes that a mass will be eradicated by this war. so what we're looking at in one way or another is a situation that israel ends this conflict very far short of its goals and mass remains in place. and we are the world remain living with a situation of deep injustice where 7000000 palestinians, 7000000 jews are all living under is really rule. and the vast majority of those palestinians are living without basic civil rights. and that's a situation that has to be addressed when we're thinking about the day after ending the immediate blood shed. and guys, from what would you say that the, the terror attack on october 7th, what did it due to the ability to criticize these really government, its policies, its leaders without being accused of being anti semitic. i mean,
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it's made it much more difficult in the west and even in inside of israel, you've seen these really journalists, you've seen palestinian citizens of israel, whose speech has been curtailed and uh, and of course in, in europe and the us we see all kinds of voices being silenced and the main tool to silence them is the accusation of anti semitism. for a year is pro is real. advocates have used a totally illegitimate definition of anti semitism. that includes things like a stating that the state of israel is racist. and you know, the way that races use these days, it's not the 19th century version of, uh, you know, 4 different archetypes of, of humanity. the races used broadly in international law to include any kind of
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ethnic or religious or, or racial or other discrimination. and, and that kind of discrimination plainly is practiced by the state of israel. but you're not allowed to say that without falling in violation of the so called h r. a definition of a ty semitism, which is the international health costs rememberance associations definition. and that definition has been spread across europe and united states and made it very, very difficult to speak honestly about what is real is doing against palestinians. the fact that it is a form of ethnic domination that is at its core, discriminatory and uh, and this comes at the expense of the real battle against an anti semitism which is coming largely from right wing races. not those who are trying to defend against regimes of ethnic domination. so the jewish and german american author,
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debra fell. she lives here in germany. she wrote a guest commentary piece that was in today's guardian newspaper. and in that is she writes that the german government's unconditional support for israel allows it to ignore the way dissenting jews in germany are being thrown under the bus as they are in israel. i mean, do you agree with there are you, would you be thrown under the bus? i mean, is real by saying what you're saying to us in public there? well, i mean, you be, we don't need to go to hypotheticals. we can see that the palestinian citizens of israel were arrested just a few days ago, including former members of the class. it the parliament for holding a peaceful attempting to hold a peaceful demonstration against calling for a cease fire in gaza. and we see that, you know, and ultra orthodox jewish journalist, israel fried, was attacked at his home, merely for reciting a prayer for the dead in gaza,
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the innocent dead in gaza. so it is, it is an environment of extreme hostility. and there is a great deal of desire for vengeance, which is being echoed by israeli leaders, such as the president of israel, who said that there are no innocence in god, said that the entire population of gaza should be held responsible for october 7th, which is clearly setting the stage for the collective punishment and death of thousands of innocence. so let me ask you, before we run out of time, i'll just get your thoughts and what we, we are seeing now across europe and in the united states last weekend there were some 300000 people at a pro, palestine pro palestinian march in london. it was the largest such demonstration we've seen since this conflict broke out. but there were also hamas been banners being born. there were signs reading, you know, you came, politicians should be
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a friend of israel and they were, we also reports of people chanting from the river to the see, what did you say about that? there's, there's real fear that what is happening, where you are, is being exported to europe in the us, in, in the form of militant, is witnessed goals of violence there as well. what, what do you say about that? so i, i think we need to disentangle a few of the different things that were mentioned that this protest the, the chance uh for 1st of all, no u. k. politician should support the state of israel or whatever that slogan said, there is nothing anti semitic about that. i mean, there are many people who don't have a racist bone in their body. don't have an anti semitic phone in their body who don't want their government supporting a decades long system of investment domination by the state of israel. that's,
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there's nothing anti semitic whatsoever about that. and, and similarly, you know, this, the, the slogan from uh, from the river to the sea. i mean, many, many, many palestinians who support equal rights for hall, between the river and the sea champ the slogan. and they don't have any kind of extermination. just idea behind it, they have no desire to see the jews even leave to europe. they just want to have a quality. so i think that there is a very, very broad brush being painted right now against anyone standing in solidarity with palestinians. and of course yes, if there were a mass posters that's, that's something different. but the fact i think, as you can see from the images here displaying on this program, those are not very prominent. uh, as far as i can see, other nathan through all, we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us and we hope to talk with you again. thank you. thank you to and for what you need
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to know on these really how most of where you can get live updates as well as in depth analysis on our website and social media channels. you can always live stream this program the day on dw use youtube channel. i think the country requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction. i will do everything i can is prime minister to study the ship over the coming weeks and months. but i do not think it will be right for me to try to be the captain, the stairs, or the country to its next destination. remember him that was former british prime minister david cameron back in 2016, announcing his own exit. just hours after the u. k voted for breakfast to leave the european union, david cameron has spent the past 7 years in what some people would say. it was the political wilderness, the man who gambled on a referendum that ended with britons. seismic breaks it busted up with europe today
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. another gamble by another british leader brought david cameron back to the front line of government as british foreign secretary, a few expected david cameron to arrive at 10 downing street today for his appointment is come back. maybe even more unlikely by the fact that he's currently not in elected lawmaker. the rarely by prime minister research soon actually as part of a major cabinet shakeup, which also solve the replacement of his device of interior minister to ela. robin should the sac, after writing an article, accusing london's police and being too lenient with pro palestinian protest data. so a, i'm just limited to understand that i reset in reissue. so your next conservative governments, here's what david cameron says that he has to offer. now, the private as the us be to do this job as a time where we have some daunting challenges as a country, the company to them at least was in ukraine. and of course,
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i hope that 6 is private as the 11 is the, the can subject by who gives me some useful experience in complex relationships and knowledge that i can present as the all right, i want to bring in dw is charlotte chelsea village. she's been watching all of this from one to today. i'm sure as surprised as everyone else was. charlotte, um, let me start by telling folks about a link to what's that message from a conservative m p group that the media got their hands on today? it read or it reads, david cameron is an elected for and secretary appointed by an elective prime minister. if you could explain to our viewers how the and elected to david cameron, how does he get to be for administer as well? this is a very unusual move, and as you mentioned, that really was a jewel dropping moment when it became clear that he was going to become
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a member of the government. once again, read some reactions from people here. how this happened. well, it says something that might be useful to international use. it's not completely unprecedented. here in the u. k, it is possible to be a subbing member of government if you are a member of what to the house of louis i see on the left to the house of commons here. and that's exactly what has happened in this case today. david cameron was made a note, he's now news, david cameron, the, please, the paul, the him to take on as well. to lord david cameron, who is lord cameron accountable to that? if he's not accountable to the voters as well, that's really a good question to the course. as you said, he's on alexis, he's not been a member of palm and for a number of years now. famously he stepped down on the rocks that referendum the
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one he calls that a cool campaigns against a man in a sense of loss when it didn't go his way. he stepped down, he's been quite quiet, but ever since so no, i'd like to know accountable to constituents people in his diary that is alexi jennifer of course of the criticism the chief because he's not as much accountable to southern as the client because he comes for tonight, by members of parliament, we did not an elective house of commons. he chan onto questions in the house. the house news, but a lot of proceedings saying the time like this, particularly such an important role. and there's so many international challenges he really has to be storage not now. that is something that i was where i would say was the space as me to the house of comments as he had said, given the gravity of the current situation, looking into options to be shown on making some switching off. and so that's something i would expect to see somebody on is charlotte did the front minister re, she seemed like he'd given a explanation of why he would choose the former prime minister, our prime minister,
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who he read. we have to say that he who resigned in failure or what he might, it won't seem like a choice that you would expect from, from miss minnesota. she said that he needs of a difficult, challenging legacy in some way to 0, alluding to that he's not popular. great the popular with the breakfast birches and course the breakfast reporters with messages. and this message is a popular pc campaigns against it. and for a maintenance, as well as still a lot of upset that he called this night. so it's not necessarily the most popular, even before the interface, and they'll be in scandal as well. what i, he's, he's pro, so he's pretty, very experienced. he wants to elections, he uh, well connected for his role, holding sub assignment, assess himself. and i think ya, where she see my full see on the election is coming up in the next year. is in a statement she put on social media. you can yeah. points and start really,
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you said today we built the united team ready to deliver the changes this policy needs for the last time. professionalism, integrity, and experience. this is a team that will be both making a lot of decisions. charlotte, before we have to say goodbye, what about the prime minister's decision today? also to sac his outspoken interior minister? i mean, what's been the reaction to that stop has been expected. i have to say isn't here in the sweat apartment and hit the headlines. the series of very, very controversial comments. recently, most recently she was seen at a decision that she had to meet the 5 to 4 minutes that he was full weeks as a result that was expected. but what you're saying, he had said popular, popular from his phone rides, the policy uh, pull a titian the ends. the grooming is david cameron, c as well motorist as he's ready for his chips in a. how does the next election withdrawal motorists side of the coffee and forces
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such as himself thought that this is friction? it says the rights and members, okay. policy. and of course, the most to be seen just whether you turn around the face of this party is, is really nothing in the falls with this move ahead. yeah. yeah, i am sure a lot of people who have followed break to would look at today and think the more things change the more they stay the same, the w's. charlotte, just them filled it from london tonight. as always, charlotte, thank this. the day is almost done. the conversation continues online, you'll find this on ex, formerly known as twitter, either dw news, you can probably be a branch off tv, and remember what ever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then everybody, the
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