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the the, this is the, the news live from bell in the reports of a mass grave being dock in gaza. officials of gauze as main hospital say they have been forced to vary scores of patients in a mosque way. us presidents biden has burge israel to protect civilians track and with events unfolding of the middle east. quickly. many, i'll also give a question. what will happen when the shooting stops? will take a look at some possible center. and it's the result of an investigation stretching
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back nearly 3 decades. rwandan doctor goes on trial in front as far as that extra rolled into genesis in his homeland in 1994. the gulf is welcome to the program as a fight in continues and the gaza strip us president joe biden is wanting that the biggest causing hospital must be protected, is calling on israel to takes quote, less intrusive action at all. she thought israel says how most militants using medical count as a sense of us come on the basis is really time set to be surrounding all she thought. but the world health organization says doctors are still doing all they can to cancer patients despise having no water or electricity of the film just
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a few days ago in this video. apparently salt inside gauze is alex, chief of hospital, gives a sense of just how many people have been crowded inside and according to medical stuff at the facility. dozens of new bones have not been removed from incubators, and placed together on beds in the open. so they are in a very bad situation where you don't want to kill them unless someone else of 10. so i just want them to the situation. but these are the bank. i think the kinds of cases where you have to be very sensitive and dealing with them, you talk, but they kind of each of them. again, that's a special great phenom clean. they are all in open space with each other, with no interest and control images. as well as ground defensive has been moving ever closer to the gates of el cheapo hospital in recent days with the us president
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joining the growing international goals for restraint. well i, you know. 2 not very much in especially my concerns going on and my hope and expectation i will be less intrusive action route to hospital hospital must be protect. israel's military has accused thomas abusing hospitals to hide command incentives and weapons. and it's now released footage. and what it says, the children's hospital in gaza, it's always lived down more than 20 meters down the road, found a door and door that is approved. it's a, it's explosive proof, alleging homicide held hostages in rooms the need. the hospital we're now in the area of the basement of the hospital, along with a cache of weapons and explosives side the hospital. i wanted to understand this
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kind of dear, isn't here for a major flight. these are explosives of the service. there's with explosives, it's a body verse for terrorist to explode and forces along hospital along patients. hospitals are given special protection during times. the pool is relo keys that how much is use of medical facilities as cover? i provides any legal safeguards as it's intensifies its ground defensive inside the gaza strip. a truism correspondent rebecca, which has told me more about the situation inside garza police. so some of the pictures in that report that how the situation has been dying for some time now, and it's certainly not getting any better. we're still getting those reports in the, the hospitalization around to bind tanks and it's almost constant fire going on on
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the outside, people not being able to evacuate and still hundreds of people inside the hospital . we're hearing from doctors inside that they're having to bury people that are dying in open grades. somehow. i can't even imagine what that looks like inside a hospital, but hearing now the report that the smell of decomposing bodies over throughout the entire hospital. there we, we heard from the w h o that actually this whole thing is a functioning hospital because all the amazing works out the medical stuff to remain inside and refuse to leave. and now on the channel, at least amazing work that they're doing. but the situation remains at the hospital is only barely functioning. they're running out of medical supplies very false. they have no electricity or gas to run the generation. and that's the situation to the hospital really all over the entire gaza strip side of the situation that she felt bad getting worse and with no and didn't side. now we're back. are you as
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president to abide and is urging as well to protect civilians that i'll see funds you use quote, list, intrusive tactics? is that even possible? the, i mean, i assume it's possible, but i don't know whether the goal will be heated. it's following you to present a button to sort of hold of many of the leaders and other organizations and other voices globally, the cooling for a different approach when it comes to i'll shoot for, we're cooling for the as riley to stop the bombardment spot. that hasn't been heated sofa now. we know that in the past, the president biden know the us administration has, you know, pulled on his allies to take a different tactic. they haven't necessarily always listened. so whether or not that will be taken into consideration going forward in this operation certainly remains to be seen, but so far we haven't seen any changes in the tactics. now the ongoing of home us
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said yesterday that it is ready to release up to 70 hostages and return for 5 days seats. 5, has there been a response for me as well to that? no specific response to that get hot. we heard on the weekend the prime minister benjamin netanyahu saying that the less he says about the hosses negotiations, the bank to the more likely will say something come out of them. we feed during the days suddenly before this ground offensive. we were here until that a large number where we're considering how much we're considering releasing a large number of the hostages. now will the tops complete the 1st one when the ground offensive, then took place, but we're seeing those folks done off again though on the weekend. we also heard from hamas saying that the treatment that it's been getting over the treatment, the l. c. so hospital has been getting a particular, it's caused for it to cancel that whole completely. those sounds a piece for their fill on negotiations going on and there is hi full those. as you say, some 617 hostages to potentially be released. but unfortunately,
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today was the same video, evidence based writing military also confirming that one of the hostages. a young soldier who was believed to be to have this is in a previous video that was released by hamas where she was showing a live save. now release video footage, showing her suddenly a piece it no longer be aligned to the judge. how they claimed that she was killed in an air strikes thoughts to i'm not a forensic specialist. i've seen the video, it doesn't look like that. she was injured in an air strike, but of course, that will take a very long time to find out if we ever find out how much have claimed in the past that some hostages have been killed in a strikes. we know that some 240 people are being held hostage. we don't know how many more, how many of those are alive, office on the back of it's the interest of them. thank you. whether we can speak to marina, as long as he's a military analyst of kings, college london, marina. what's your assessment of that video released by these really minutes early
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in which it claims to show evidence that hamas is using hospitals as an instrument of will a good afternoon. well, it's a very difficult question because um, israel would want to release some sort of evidence because approved as a burden of proof is on the east ro side since we're talking about a hospital. and generally speaking, under international humanitarian law, hospitals cannot be military targets unless it is being used for military purposes, in which case, the other side should ideally communicate that which is not the case here. so we have to verify the video. we have to verify all the evidence and so far there is no clear verification of the video unfortunately. so we have to travel with caution when analyzing video or evidence, or any evidence coming from any sides before
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a decision can be made here. certainly it is, it would be plausible to believe because that is something that some us could have done in order to make an operation for these rail forces. one more difficult knowing that exactly is this crux was protected buildings. however, as i said, we need a more evidence and when you there are a verification of what has been released in the box. now these right minutes are, is also released. the video taken from the ad with should says, shows that how must find that with a rocket launcher outside or cook's hospital. can you comment on that as well? again, it depends on when the video was taken. we need to have more data. we need to have the method data, so to say also we do in order to be able to verify the exact location and, and unfortunately in today's age was general with the a i m, things like that. what we have seen is a floor of video is being posted on social media or release. that has been dr. that
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has been taken from video games. please mean to be something else. therefore, i am not saying that the user only government will release intentionally falsified evidence. however, it's always best to verify to look at satellite imagery to look at when the video was taken. and in order to be able to say yes indeed, that is the video. busy of this conflict, it wasn't taken 5 years ago or 6 years ago in order to be able to confirm it. is it accepted consensus in the intelligence community that come off hides come on facilities on the civilian infrastructure? a well, according to many assessments. yes. um, but there isn't a, or at least there are no open source intelligence sources that will specify locations which i'm offering is using. from mazda is perspective,
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it is also logical for them to do that. knowing that those locations cannot be targeted under of international law. and if they are target that, and that is why i said that the east for health care is the burden of proof here to prove that the hospital is used for military purposes. because that would invite a lot of criticism from the international community, which in turn would strengthen her model. so it would make sense for him us to use the hospitals for their command and control center. and we've seen that in our count conflicts that have gotten a sense of taliban, that the same. so it seems to be not a singular piece here with the from us. however, we're being home not seeing an open source. it should be trusted. that's at the stage and certainly the east roadside will have intelligence with the locations and possibly american intelligence, but we will not know that and just remember on them. thank you very much. marina.
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thank you for having me while, while as well again, some of the shows no sign of slowing. many people already ask you the question. what will happen when it's sofa? most analysts agree it's fault to add it to say, but some scenarios is more likely than others. destruction, dest, israel's pursuit. if a mouse is leveling whole neighborhoods in gaza, causing widespread human suffering and laying ways to infrastructure. this satellite imagery shows one area before and after israel started it's bombardment and later ground defensive and the shooting will eventually stop. is real says that after the war, they'll have to be a new security regime for guys. experts, a 3 scenarios are most likely the 1st option tightened control. israel's foreign minister has warrant that causes territory will decrease, which could mean wider, so called buffer zones before the war areas and goals are within the kilometer of these really border. we're no go areas. these could be expanded. experts say that
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if the north of the enclave is totally destroyed, it could remain uninhabitable. cut off like this guy's ends would depend entirely on internationally to survive. option 2 would see the palestinian authority which controls the west bank, also take control of gaza. this would unite palestinians under a single government which could also be part of any future negotiations over palestinian sovereignty. and the 3rd option, what's the arab states that have relations with israel take control along with the palestinian authority. the u. s. has laid down some red lines in response to options discussed by his really politicians and the international community. no, forcible displacement of palestinians from guys and uh, no use of guys as a platform for launching a terrorism or other other attacks against against israel. i know diminution in the,
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in the territory wowza and a commitment to palestinian lead governance for, for guys and, and for the west bank a lot of knows the other potential broker, the united nations as so far not presented suggestions for a solution, leaving the future of gaza, uncertain, and for more on that topic. let's bring in your see michael darky is a, is with the royal institute of international affairs, also known as chatham house in london. now 1st, please tell me about the day off to what will be the priorities in rebuilding garza a good afternoon thing. obviously when you look at your watch list of guys of the, you know, the massive above mental photographs of the dysfunction there. but no dodge, when you are hundreds of thousands of people, probably $700000.00 people displace many, many houses the storage costs because now under foot goes. so they, they,
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they mean it's almost a month that would need for what am i saving you money? 78, just to ensure that your collection of people, efforts, sanitation, air, water, and the rest. this will be in the immediate austin month, then also to ensure that people have to enjoy security. and then gradually moving into the building of guys and, and showing that also there is governors so easily. so is government guys are unique, you need some sort of government assuming that's how much won't be able to govern. and these are the ones because a lot of people come last is, is, is the over possibly the government, the place that they need to live so far, the kind of a tube. and then we have to look into the, into the, me, in the long term, in the interim, probably an inclination of something to listen to. mechanisms that we look into, into the building. does the construct doesn't, but also be the governments that and eventually election and uniting,
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there they're there by the student body team between the west bank and gaza under one who now and that's an yeah, it was says that these are out. you mentioned security and he said that israel will control the overall security of cause or off of the world you'll see is well holding on to that power for a loan officer was. busy who do you think should step enough to the war? but we'll see what the outset is. there is a, what does it mean also to come towards? does it mean presence? we've seen, we've seen guns up lives in from the outside. you know, the idea of the blockade was everything also going to control and bikes on the outside and keeping it from dave at this phase and collapse the same few hours on the, on, on 7 folks, although these disasters consequences. so if you means staying there, then it's ok patients to become intentionally, seem to tell it totally and multiply it pointlessly meaning
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a paper. this season is enough to buy an all star joint. so it's very difficult to see what it needs to be to be just that and a mentor for that. probably better to ensure that easily population that he's doing something. oh, there isn't actually eh, plan and how to ensure is secure, which is the ways that these are the guys that i think any plan with info or information of sources. there is some things that are in time until we're moving into some people might be careful that was of the easily by the sting and conflict . now, what about the prestone in a star to sounds plausible, doesn't it? that they'd be given a chance to call them gaza. what do you think to me? yeah, obviously the, the, the, the, the kind of just entering 2 guys are considering how the less the, the false to be back in 2010 server. and on the back call, so easily things just enter and be implicated. we've was the wrong guys. i mean,
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what's, you know, the destruction next as a result of defeat. so again, that's sort of the need for an intern time. the 8 says needs to go for the full. it'd be the issue of succession in the p a in the piano and finding new leadership as much as is what makes new new leadership, new leadership for guys, a building, a town that seems a political bodies that's with the, with the in the next elections building the institution has been cited, so this is, this is the process that you should be outlined in stock. do you know immediately when there isn't a ceasefire and same unit there she permitted thing, but also no legal. she that can thing be all the conflict itself into a resolution to be so there's an ocean. now is this time as traffic as everything is right now to do it, provide a chance for a possible resolution of the conflict? i think whatever you have such deep crisis,
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there is also going to put to unity because the one thing that everyone realize inside now is the account and arrangements don't work. then even the even worse eh, conditions and by now probably on both sides of the more than 240 something 1000 people there. and we saw that this auction and to tell him what his bushel site is on going slow and the show quiz dead. and the closer look this task, if there was any thought between them, is even being there. the image show the oh is a if, and you'll either see, it's actually the like less than the communicating the conflict to king of the see use the state to school doesn't tour. it needs to go back to the root cause this of the call state says it's only nation full board recognition of the right soul of jewels. the name is the copy tunnel, the fugitives issue a lot in the colonial development. then it was supplementing in the west bank, all those issues that makes it,
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these are the policy and conflicts with the support of the international community . person that i think should be installed vision of the elements of that. but we all state the united states and the will be in union and then increase their responsibility because it affects their into the store. you'll see a medical background with international affairs think tank tim house. thank you very much for sharing your expertise with us. thank you for having me. now it's time to have a look at some of the other news headlines. liberians are going to the polls at the 2nd round of presidential elections, former football star and incumbent president george william is running against the form of vice president joseph book. hi. we let the 1st round of folding, but fail to cross the 50 percent threshold needed to win office or the phone was worth just 5 minutes. the david cameron has attended his 1st cabinet meeting since as surprised. the appointment as for and secretary. it came during prime minister,
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which is for next, which is due next cabinet. we shuffled on monday. it's been interpreted as a move towards the political center. ahead of next is general elections and next wednesday, the tools that will be delivering germany as defense minister far as disorders as warranty. you will miss its goal of providing 1000000 off to her with shelves to ukraine by mobs. usually displaying bottlenecks and the arms industry for the delay . the comments came as the defense ministers convene and process floods. cold spots of mental rain has killed thousands of people in somalia. nearly half a 1000000 civilians have been displaced and infrastructure severely damaged. the united nations says it's the west flooding and in decades and fits trick. i'm assuming that terry an emergency a rwandan ducks up there's going on trial in paris on charges of genocide and crimes against humanity during the
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1994 genocide in rwanda. so standing on the amount of is alleged to have assisted in facilitating most motor beach in china college is to is now 60 ideas old denies the charges against us. and we'll get more on his trial in a moment. but 1st, here's a look back at the genocide, the client, the lives of more than a 1000000 people in run warning that you may find some of the images in the next report. distressing. this was the capitalist of one of the most brutal genocides in world history. the president of wanda and his burgundy and council pods were on board this plane when it was shot down as it prepared to land in the one capital gun. the very next day, april 7th, 1994, a genocide began that would see the dates of more than 1000000 people. most of the victims were members of the 2 teeth minority group. they would kill by who to
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militias, who hunted them in their homes, and in the schools and churches, they hit in the middle of ship murder, the victims with machetes and rifles. they also rate an estimate to $200000.00 women and girls. the genocide was the combination of decades of division between the who to and to see populations in one historian say the tensions goes back to the colonial era. the scale of the atrocities of the london genocide shocked the world. 3 decades later, justice is still being source for the victims of correspondence. lisa lewis and paris has more on the trial of souls to them. when you buy them, the doctor says 10. when you mano who's been living and science for the past 3 decades, is understood to have been a while and there in person i see at the time in rhonda, he's also forward to a fairly close to his own combined. di was the head of the interim government
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implementing the genocide to enrich around 1000000 people were killed with in just a few weeks of time in 1994 in front of this french court misdemeanor. germano is accused of having signed a letter of support for the interim. the government of having been part of a crisis committee that is alleged to have helped carrying out the genocide of having held the keys for government offices. where allegedly he look to white people and that would then later on be transported to places where most of them were towed. now the accused is not denying that he did those things, but he says that he carried out these actions to actually put tax the persecuted the jury trial ruby searching for 6 weeks here in paris with a verdict expected for the 19th of december. and if found guilty,
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