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tv   Conflict Zone  Deutsche Welle  November 16, 2023 9:30am-10:01am CET

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every year you are exposed to over $1000000.00 tons of plastic. why is there another way officer rules. the environment is not responsible. make up your own mind. dw made for mines spots, you may be thomas stadiums have to talk to many of stuff as these possibly was of us that to see straight down to the strength of the process is still alive with how much more of them my guess this week is juliet to master suite you an agency. so tom, over the 100 of that person now have been killed in the gaza. why don't we see in golf now right now is on 3 dentist on
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a number of levels. so how long can the agency go into functioning? how long an ordinary people suffer the impact on the bottom. if you've chosen basic good luck of medicine. how does the people of god missed today when they have no idea? so does he get too my welcome to come pick go to have you. thank you for having me as and thanks for having me a week ago is where i was on bus of the to the un denied that there was any kind of humanitarian crisis in gaza. what would you say to him the way before this war in gaza? started on the 7th of october, that humanitarian situation in like all just, it has been very, very dire. i mean, only what i'm wrong, we were providing sued assistance to 1200000 people. but that was all over
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to you were among the highest in the region. so where are the levels of unemployment and then java, let's not forget the ones on the blockade. so access in and out of the gaza strip was very, very difficult. and now where we are right now is a humanitarian situation was made pon pon, was due to a very tight siege and a more because of the compartments and those types of that have been going on for 5 weeks now. so i am going to tell you the situation was made far worse. we are witnessing humanitarian tragedy in gaza. maids far worse every day. this war goes on. how much face can you put in official statement inside of them is viable from us to what i do know our fax on the exams once we do have as under is nearly 800 pounds and people were forced to free their homes. they
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are now taking sunset in more than $150.00 on the facilities. this is more than 4 times what we have planned for under the worst case scenario. the situation in these chapters is absolutely absolutely terrible because they had over the 1000 and also because i'm wrong, does not have the supplies or the fuel to reach me, but it needs so their situation is that of them. they are on the bombardment and gaza at that point because a lot has been on the siege for 5 weeks. now. we do not have the ability to respond to this volume, this huge volume of humanitarian needs in the office. also because we are not getting the supplies that we need and we're not giving the fuel. well, i want to come on to that a little later. but can you believe the casualty figures coming from the i'm us
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wrong authority in gaza? the fig on i'm thinking of is over 11000 people dead in the war so far. can you believe these figures? and i thought it was when we use a big candidate, the figures among our teams, among the teams. we can confirm that 102 creeks of ours have been case in this war. this has the highest number of un age where it, cuz it could be anywhere in the world since best publish them and all the united nations. and when we apply the proportionality of this 100 into to the 13000 cliques that work with us. and when we look at the dock are coming from the guys, i'm going to see a house on a flight. a similar ratio. the numbers do time. we have so they, we have do you normally around the world,
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the united nations and entities around the world. we lowered the flat to half off indignation to the service. all these cliques, that were the case. the only place we kept that un flag flying high once goes on and it was a symbolic gesture on, on the side to show commitments to the people that we serve. especially those 800 pounds and people who came to our centers to seek protection and safety on the very same flat the personnel working for on who were killed. they must have known the damages, the face from the risks they were running. what kind of people will put their lives on the line like that for other people? you see, i'm the house, 13000 employees working with us on the ground in think i was on the war started. we were present across the gauze noise, mid an area,
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southern areas. and these were mainly teachers. the vast majority of our teams on the grounds are teachers who teach in columbus course, which we sadly have to close this victoria. more than 300000 boys in guns, in ga, the film education for the past 5 weeks. and we have to turn many on 5 squeezed into chapters to take in people who sold protection and safety on this the us flat. these were people who, where the, the click skin, i mean they were mainly teachers, school principals, doctors, nurses, engineers, support staff, which is the backbone of auto patients. many one year olds of that families, one day, most of them like a you absolutely my most of that, my kids with the families. we have very sick stories. one league of ours sent me.
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it was located in his own home with his wife and children on all the click of our city and who was a long time ecologist. she was caged with her adult at once. she was out at home one 3rd. all i'd cookies when my kids were not the kids in the north 135 police. when kids were in 5 case in the many areas i'm in the southern areas where i was supposed to be say, but it is really said they weren't going to bump because no way to think they've been gone. no, i have not been north, was us to be not limited area, not the south. and in fact, when we look up, the dos are more than 60 un facilities on the facility. specifically, the vast majority of which i've sent this, what people are attempting 60, all those facilities have been hipped. more than 10 of those have been directly hibbs,
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and 70 percent of the facilities that wedding boxed is doing this morning. dogs off the on the facility 70 percent. where in the middle the areas i'm in the southern areas 70 percent. do you reach a stage where you simply have to pull out because the danger to your stuff is so great. i ask because one of your colleagues said the other day, every day, you think it is worst day. and then the next day comes and it's even worse, or was that your experience? absolutely right. absolutely right. off every day in small the only every day, i think every hour the situation gets worse and worse, the fluidity of this more is astonishing. things continue to change. things continue to move on. the very, very fall face. people continue to leave their homes. there is force displacement happening in java. there is collective punishment happening and,
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and also on the is committed to stay in gaza and to deliver it to the people who need that small. and we, we continue to do this, but we need many things for us to, to do this. we need some advice coming into goals on a regular basis. we need to expand the number of tasks that are coming into lava. we need to expand that to meditate in inflation, both in terms of the volume and the frequency and the capacity. all that's going to tell you, litigation, we also need fuel. it's really, really critical. the amount gets fewer, unfortunately, meditating purposes. we have not received fuel for the past 5 weeks. we have been bleeding to get shipments on fuel tobate's. we have not received any fuel. if you, what do we need for the fate of the cost for us to be able to go pick up the supplies that are coming from the board is for us to give to medical facilities. i wouldn't
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want to include it for the ones that pumps to work in. i'm a shut this. we need fuel as we have not received any fuel, also has not received a lead to, oh you with says the war began on the 7th of october. for obvious reasons, as a particular focus on the flight of hospitals, in gauze of the red cross that they'd reached once they pulled the points of lower ton um, but the lives of thousands of people were at risk. this is a daily, even hourly emergency isn't too. oh, absolutely. to get what, what, what medicine you can, one little medicine is left to get what little fuel varies to get one little drinking water. there is a how long can this go on for before before people get ill from now nutrition, but for those illnesses associated with lack of sanitation, how long before that happens?
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exam facilities including hospitals, but also your facilities have not been fair. but these facilities, civilian facilities, schools of the families, clinics, checks, are you enterprise, those i'm call town? they are only for texas on the national on humanitarian. no. i'm they have not been told who is of the war. they have been broken in the say, there's rarely say that's the reason the surrounding. i'll ship a hospital, which i think is the largest hospital in gaza at the moment. is because that show that that's a command and control sense of belonging to hum us underneath the hospital itself. do you know anything about that? are the ones we do know she far husbands? them is the largest medicaid facility and the largest hospice, a in the office. and one of the only this listed in have institutions. it has been established in 1946. and in addition to it being this medicaid facility,
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a very important and critical medical facility, somewhere beyond she false. but there has been hosting panels on thousands, according to the points that we get tens of thousands of people and it's courtyards . i'm in the, in the parking lot, so it's also being used as a set that now we and i haven't been able to access she for health, but the only one i'm, they live with medical supplies, basic medical supplies and medicine throughout the war. we were allowed the only one to do this very urgent humanitarian, the money that we did with the, with health organization. and this shows you the immense challenges that we are facing in terms of access not only from outside of calls after being in supplies, but also we've gone to from the south into the north where there is cause
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a city where it has been the beating part all the gaza strip for many, many decades. but there has been some evidence in the past. the thomas did hide weapons and tunnels on the hospitals hasn't. that's last year. your agency said it does identified what it called a mine made cavity underneath the grounds of a school in gaza. it protested to the hospital authorities and you sealed the cavity permanently and how does, how must respond to your discovery. so what i'm doing now, i'm pretty positive pin, is that we have inspection teams about go to our facilities in the i'm everywhere in the region where only 2 are updates. um we do this inspection against the humanitarian principal. um for new to the um, in fact the last inspection we have done was just before the one on the 30th of september and we do this every quarter. 30th of september we have completed the
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inspection on our facilities in the galveston november. so the thing see is right now um you show pictures of gums, suicide vests grenades, explosives, and what they said was the basement of run to see children's hospital. does that surprise you then, given what you've just told me about the inspections you you conducted? i saw these reports came, i'm wondering why is not at all we in a position to confirm or deny these reports within the hosp. the thing is not on the work facility. let me emphasize the civilian interests, upset where ever they are in the world. not only in the gulf and civilian infrastructure that must never be used for military purposes. are you satisfied that is being used garza? i really do not know that outcome. i really do not know that you've been another
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was those you've been in iraq. you've been and you haven't what stands out about this one from your experiences you've had to date? well, i found most of my immunization services working on one of the most. they was in the recent history, i'm bought as the water in the city or where i was in i'm out of city are on the city of war for more than a decade. and i saw it was about i have seen the worst doing that work because i started working on the wooden city out in 2012 when the war had just started and i saw photos. and i was, i witnessed that a bit of things happening including children because i was waiting for you to stop back and back then i worked in different little ones with other entities in be run . so i, i'm very familiar with the one of the city i was very familiar with what was due to lives of human beings. but let me ask you about that because because in your
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experience, what happens to people who go through this kind of trauma, what, what can we expect to happen to the people of gaza? do they ever recover? what we see in golf now right now is i'm present that on a number of levels. the siege is unprecedented. the level of damage to this is really an influx of including gm facilities is increasing benefit. the number of counseling piece is very, very fine, but hopefully that's what kids work for on the is very, very high. and in fact it's the highest f as soon as the, when the started working towards the mid 19 forties. the challenge is that we are facing out the largest humanitarian providers in the unprecedented or a some pieces on the, on the, please. the shop. i'm the to me,
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but this is closing to people, including home at home peaks is huge. these are cars that are going to be very, very hard to he and there are many, many people in the office 3. why the ease at the living, the total amount of 1948 on as they are now living. that to law. all said, i'm so says i'm the father of the mothers due to this for displacement and that exemptions all the exit is or what's happening right now to the next. in 1948, also known as the apostrophe winter is here. do you have any idea of what will happen to the hundreds of thousands of people who are now homeless and in the, in the longer term? are there any models that could suggest how long people might have to deal with this homelessness,
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with these shortages with all the problems that affect that daily life? when graham i'm calling is going to make a tragic situation for people in dollars off 55 words. because once we have house on say recently is in our center is women and good sleeping inside the classrooms and them boys sleeping outside in the open. so with, when it's there, it's going to get worse. and we are of course, worried about the diseases, the sped of diseases, lack of heat as the flooding uh, width. that's the base service breaking down. how is this going to be managed? it's going to be even bigger than overcast by we have right now. so this is why is absolutely critical, but there is a humanitarian ceasefire, which would've been quoting for 4 weeks on. and now it's not me. it's pointing on
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the ears. it has to happen for the sake of civilians, wherever they are, including those in golf up. you just go back reasoning today from an arab summit, and the savvy capital re add report suggested that was sent to you and got and invective. but i suppose i n g a is cheap. who amongst the arab leaders promised any concrete help, a tool for the palestinians and gaza. so for alpha i as well as an historic moment because it was the 1st time in the history of the agency and with almost $75.00 fees. all that we are invited on the left of our commission and john that is to be allowed to address that has of states most of the most the more and so for the house, it was important that we relay the message on behalf of the 2000000 kind of demand wiped out in this war. so that was one thing that we wanted to really um,
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in terms of the reception we got funding for domino patients. so ma'am, i'm from the hashemite kingdom of jordan and we got pledges from the u. e. we are still offset the same if we are as an agency, going to be able to pay salaries for the stop this month, november, or not december, including those honestly heroes. but i working with the agency on the phone lines. you can think of a big, the head of your agency said the other day there was a feeling among thousands that they had been sacrificed on the band and by the outside world. how wide spread is that feeling among the people that you've met and you've talked to a very wide spread very wide spence, it's, i'm all done with south and it's also among the fans. but we have and gaza. there is a feeling of abandonment and there's a feeling all, i'm not feeling
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a point about there at the softening and the part of that is happening in gaza is not important. and box is changing, which is very, very good. i think more and more and more people around the world are understanding that civilians are going to pay in dollars on that they are going to collect this punishment that so many people have been case including, according to the ports, more than 4000 children, which is according to save the children of the highest number of children case in any conflict since 2019, these children have nothing to do with this conflict or with this for a no time. she wouldn't want the children of golf on have witness palestinians that, that you've met. talk to you about the atrocities that hamas committed against
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israel. yes, the guy said, what did they say about that? yes they have i'm, i'm the secretary general of the day. lots of nations have come down in the strongest terms the most. okay. that happens in is on the 7th of october, julia too. when you take away from all of this, how do you, how do you process what you've seen? how hard is that for you personally? for me and so the nation to continue to be the voice of the list and in the involves office to be in school our whole time in this war and also to continue to work with. i would please with our teams on the ground floor, by the way i'm, it's not a gimmick, but i am using they are am they of my coming out of the darkness? so what counseling has become, it's my duty to continue to support them for that. they continue to be able to
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deliver to people who need them all so that we continue the largest do an agency to support and deliver the people that we are committed to deliver to. and these are the person in communities in golf and, and square in this region. the part of your agency says that since october, the 7th garza has gone from open at prison to graveyard. if he's right, what kind of garza do you think will be less? okay, it does have to answer this question, why do you have an active conflict going? once we do know some destruction from flips that we've seen of destruction including around our own office, which was in gospel city since we started working more than 70 years ago. by the way, is the plains looks like it's just been hit by an earthquake, except we have to remind ourselves that this is all my need. and it's going to take
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over the years and years to the bins. but the concern right now is not for the can phone. the huge concern right now is for the people on what they are going to, the displacement and the ongoing exit is on the force displacement of the collective punishment. that's really the biggest, biggest concern that the agency i work with. pass your director said a new generation of aggrieved palestinians. i'd like for you to come out of the bombing of gaza and are likely to continue the cycle of violence. do show that to you. why don't you know from how they conflict? so it is by violence breeds more violence and violence. we never, never, ever get boss anyway. groups on,
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once we do know is the one violence continues, the more the work continues the far that we are from peace and stability in this region. this is exactly why we called for humanitarians east fire. and why do you think it's falling on? this is also not the question to meet him. it's not the question to me. you know, the region you talk to the class. i don't know. oh, i know is that the longer this goes on, the more we're using on our humanity is for the sake of humanity, it's a point of make or break for each and every one of us about our humanity do really gave me only we just let it slip jeanette to my thanks very much for being on. come fix a, a painting center time. thank you. the
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