the the, this is dw news live from berlin, a thought and relations between the worlds to super powers us president joe biden says there is real progress in his 1st face to face talks and a year of china is leaders, fusion pick both, say they want better relations despite the lingering tension. also coming up a journalist from gaza, who is lucky enough to have made it out of the war torn territory chairs his personal journeyed with

d. w. and the possible path to fast track nato membership for ukraine. dw looks at a controversial idea being loaded by a former nato chief of spears ro that western support for ukraine could be waning the . i'm sarah kelly, welcome to the program. you, as president joe biden says that he has made real progress in talks with china is leaders, fusion paying. the 2 met for 4 hours during a summit of asia pacific nations in san francisco. it was their 1st face to face encounter and a year of leaders say that they want to improve strained relations between the 2 superpowers. they announced a new cooperation in areas including narcotics, a i, and military communications. tensions persist over trade and china is territorial claims on taiwan. despite the summit's, careful planning,

president bite and referred to she as a dictator, while speaking with journalists, beijing has criticized the comments as a responsible the president bivens of the us and china would try and communicate better, both diplomatically and personally, were re assuming military to military contact direct contacts as to why the press no follow this. that's been cut off is been were worse, and that's how accidents happen. misunderstandings, so we're back to direct open, clear, direct communications on the roof of a direct basis. in the months of head, we're going to continue to preserve and pursue high level diplomacy, the p r. c, in both directions. to keep the lines of communication open, including retreat, present sheets and me. he and i agree that these are what else could pick up a phone call directly on whether you heard of me and we asked the journalist, fabi and customer in beijing, whether this meeting was

a success from the chinese perspective. it's yeah, from the chinese site um the talks were framed very positively. on the one hand you can argue, yeah, the chinese site has an incentive to a frame. them positivity off to all the lead um was flying all the way to san francisco. and you know, there was a lot of preparation going into the summit. so it was expected that, you know, this at least would have some results. but i would say the rhetoric that goes well beyond that, um, just after the talks um, a 40 minutes, the one you went to the press and stated publicly that the talks when quote unquote very well and even seating things, rhetoric was i would say very accommodating and he said that china is um, willing to be a pot and a friend of the u. s. i mean, this is some graduate that we have not heard in quite a long time. and also, if you look at it objectively, i mean, there were some concrete results in terms of, you know, pinto, no traffic, king china promised to correct the on that. and, you know, human to human exchanges will be increased. uh, that will be some

a i regulation talks a joint cooperation when it comes to climate talks, etc. so i would say um those, some, it was quite a constructive and was also frank, very positive feet by the chinese side of fabia. and there are a lot of issues. meantime were china and the united states do not see ida i namely taiwan, gaza, ukraine, just to name a few. was there any progress there or no, not at all. i mean the major conflicts. i don't see any. you have room for compromise them to the positions decide really a lot when it comes to taiwan. yeah. i would say a seating things. rhetoric was not as strong as before. i mean, he didn't issue a military for it, but he also made you aware of the red line is and that is the independence of taiwan. and he also want the u. s. of not selling any to taiwan, but also when it comes to, um, gaza and also ukraine. um, the chinese side did not,

you know, even mentioned them in the, in their hands out. and also when you know, later on in the minister of foreign affairs, the spokes person was you know, asked to clarify if they were any progress on those issues. she basically, um, just repeated the stance of china and it has not changed. so i would say in those major issues, there was not really a substantial change by the chinese type, but that doesn't prove out that maybe those talks could lead to progress later on. okay, journal has 5 encroachment and basing. we'll leave it there. thank you so much for joining us. but you and security council has adopted a resolution calling for urgent extended pauses in the gaza strip. the binding text calls for humanitarian pauses in fighting and to allow 8 access, but didn't use the term ceasefire. it also calls on hum austin israel to protect civilians, especially children. it's the 1st time that the council has agreed on

a resolution since the conflicts began getting reliable information out of cause. it has become increasingly difficult. conditions for journalists are extremely dangerous, and only a few people have made it out of the territory. no golfing journalist has them, pollution is one of them. we will be speaking with him in just a moment about his personal and journalist ec take on the situation in gaza, but 1st a short profile, including the few images that he recorded from his journey. a husband boucher, a long time reporter and dw contributors since 2012. he's covered many conflicts between is real and him us. but he says this war is like nothing else he's experienced. he's had to strike a balance between objective reporting, where he's about his family and his personal feelings as it goes on. this is footage he took of his neighborhood for him, it was clear he could not return. the area has been under fire since october 7th, the day of how mazda is tara tax on israel. husband moved south and kept trying to

get the news out. i'm in power outages and with no internet. he took this photo of a boy struggling to stay in touch. how some took with him just a few keepsakes like this leaflets dropped by the israeli army warning people to flee the north. he caught the leaf, lived from a rooftop and a refugee camp. on november 3rd, he took this footage of his long wait at the roster crossing to enter egypt and then made his way to jordan. one of the few lucky ones to get out. he says he feels guilty leaving his wider family behind. as well as all the other girls in school have nowhere to go. and i asked has them earlier if he and all of his family made it out of gaza? lucky yes, my close family, direct family. my wife and 2 boys made it out. on november, the 3 we are cross roughly crossing and natural and that will

need to close like about 24 hours to reach cairo and he stayed there for like a week. then we slide on mine and where i am now. at what point did you make the call um, did you say okay, i am going to try to leave now. it's actually from the fast week i so it's a, it's not safe to stay in dogs. this time was totally different, risky, odd from day one. there was this to like near buying my place and some windows were smashed in the fest. like so many away the signed that made me think it took me a couple of days to think about it. then i started to make phone calls and to see if that is possible for me to leave um with my family. and it took longer than i expected. more than

a month. i stayed in garza and i'm moving from different places. like, actually i got misplaced the 5 different places across the golden strep to like, made it out. on november 3, you were among the few journalists reporting from gaza on the ground. how great was the pressure on you? and how do you think those who are still there, experiencing these moments it was an easy because the building is not the only thing that we used to do and taken care off. and they, the life taken care of the family, seeking safe safety and, and, and find a secure place not to be in the wrong a time or one place where it could be a potential target wise. we're a li, jets or out hillary or whatever. and, and being exhausted with the daily. so the basic things like getting water,

washing or drinking water or finding fluids. um, in the beginning it was okay. available and in the market, the electron become more hard and hard as time a bossing. things become more little in, in the market many, many times that we put in find proper food to buy or drinking water. i remember one of the 2 nights was uh we, we had no drinking water. we had to wait till the next morning. uh, ending for water. so in this time the we, we were exhausted and uh, and drain by this, these things. and um, and i have to keep an eye on the use and, and 2 ports um, more than was very limited. uh, moving it was very hard, was scary and risky, but um, um, we could manage somehow like plus that the communication between an in gallons. uh

because of the poor connection, limited access to the internet. uh, made it more harder and more difficult. what do you think? i mean, you know, we've all seen the images coming out of gauze including since you left, and i'm just wondering, you know, as, as a resident of gaza. and um, you know, knowing what, you know, also as a journalist, what would you think of what you've been seeing coming out of there, or how do you feel my feeling is, is, is, is um and, and describable. you know, if i am allowed to say it's not easy because i'm a journalist, i have to cover and have to be objective. very unusual as much as i can. and as i'm working for the fine media mainly but in the same time of velocity and i'm based in goals that i have a family, i have friends, i have people there and i so innocent people got killed and being at risk and,

and scared, entered, defined by the environment and, and without knowing and at any end of it or when it's going to be over. that was the most terrifying thing. the feelings was like really mixed, especially when we hear about people we know that they, they got caught killed or their house being destroyed. and so, um it sometimes i was preventing myself of thinking even about these things like 9 main priority was to stay safe and as much as i can, journalist has and pollution. thank you so much for joining us. and here are some other stories making news. german authorities have carried out a series of raids on organizations with suspected legs to hezbollah. 54 raids were

carried out nationwide overnight. most were connected to an organization called the hamburg is law mics center. the center is suspected of supporting has the law, which germany recognizes as a terrorist organization. so you guys knew foreign minister david cameron has travel to keep on a surprise visit. it is the ex prime minister's 1st working trip abroad. ukrainian president followed him, or as landscape says that he is grateful for the support at a time with the conflict and gaza is drawing attention away from ukraine. nieto has said that ukraine will one day become a member of the collective defense pact. but that can happen as long as there is a war raging on its territory. now one prominent voice has floated the idea of making keys a member of but without areas under russian occupation. but with allies even consider taking on a new member with a built in conflict with moscow, he

w as terry schultz reports. could you premium president blood, i'm your zalinski, get his wish of joining nato now. former nato chief underscore rasmussen is promoting an idea that has rarely been raised in public before offering ukraine. nato membership without regaining crimea. don bass and the other territories. moscow has a legally seized rasmussen argues that nato's collective security guarantee. article 5 would then deter further russian expansion. but even some leaders who advocate ukraine's rapid nato accession say this formula would be a kremlin victory. i mean, there's all integrity, something you know, have that has to be sacrifice, giving away something for something. it should not be, you know, it should not work like ukrainian parliamentarian audrey oh centric says it's a non starter for keith. poor jim deal today has beek b to destroy your grading as independent country, any ceasefire,

any freezing of the conflict? any compromise? would you just g, a time for ross up to the low? the last time a similar idea emerged from the realm of rumors was in august when secretary general young stilton bruce, chief of staff stinson suggested at a form in norway that you cream, giving up some russian occupied land may be a path to peace. this caused an immediate uproar forcing stilton birth to clarify that nato is position supporting. ukraine's territorial integrity had not changed yet and had to say keep misspoken but defense analyst edward hunter. christy says real mistakes are being made. there is a gap between official positions which express the ideal outcome of ukraine recovering its entire territory and the actual level of aid of military age. in particular that the allies are prepared to give. they need the full range of tools so that they have a real chance of changing facts on the ground. and then we can see where the

permanency leads. he says, well, nato could bring the free part of ukraine into the alliance. now that would weaken both of them, okay? and it is to restore the full territory of ukraine and strategically, militarily and legally and for the international reputation and prestige of the alliance. we need to go all the way with this, but all the way is so far away that keeping it supporters fear weapons deliveries will dry up too soon. forcing president zelinski to consider options like the rasmussen proposal to give up pieces of his country and call it peace accord in russia is due to hand down its verdicts later today in a case of an artist charged with the country. strict war time censorship laws. alexandra, go to lanka, faces several years in prison after being arrested last year for replacing supermarket price tags with stickers criticising the warren ukraine. she denies the formal charge of knowing least spreading false information about the russian army.

this is a comic book by russian artist, sasha saki lingle in its she explains what depression is and type to support a relative or a friend who suffers from it. so, but now sasha herself need support. she's been in detention for one and a half years accused of spreading so called fake news about the russian army, friends, relatives, and even people who have never met her are trying to draw attention to her case. one of them is bars romanoff. inactive is from st. petersburg, he knows exactly what it's like to be in sasha's position. he was arrested for breaking the same law passed by russian lawmakers in the 1st days of the full scale invasion of ukraine bars manage to escape russia and is now in germany. yeah, just to this as lea a, the, i feel

a sense of responsibility which on the i was sharing information about political prison as a full some way as a now since my whole life has to be turned upside down because of the rest. so i had to leave my country and stuff over. i feel even more info run over the i just was a little bit of phone of, of, of which on this website you brought this sasha suck. she lank go, was arrested in april 2022 for replacing supermarket price tags with demands to end russia's war and ukraine. prosecutors are seeking an easier sentence, says punishment, which our relatives and friends believe is in humane. it was nice to use that as i'm just trying not to think about it too much. so basically i'm hoping for a miracle because i know very well that a heavy present sentence will be a catastrophe for the shot or the what the prospect of us throw sasha is wellbeing is what her mother is concerned about. most. the 33 year old has several illnesses

under health is deteriorating in detention due to a lack of medical assistance. where's your almost the sheets and why is it? because she's a very strong person story, but it won't cost. i just pushed that sold away because i'm really afraid i still come see the end of this process as a buyers, you could look into the yay! showing you. these are called and said it probably helps me to survive because there is no end in sight. but i don't know how it's going to end. even in detention, sasha continues to drool friends, publish, or prison diary on a website. they also sent a box of her books to bar it's in germany. most of them have been sold and the money used to pay, so coolant goes lawyers to continue helping her buyers that wants to publish your book in germany. and i'd like to go back to ukraine now and it's prospects for nato

membership. i'm joined by a brief point today. here's a political expert and the ceo of rasmussen, global consultancy, which has hope, has worked in and with ukraine. he's also a former nato director of policy planning, a welcome to the program and thank you so much for joining us. we had heard a little bit earlier about the program about this proposal from a former nato secretary general, and theres folk rasmussen who floated the idea of ukraine, essentially giving up some of its territory or claims to it in exchange for nato membership. tell us a little bit more about the proposal. it's potential and whether it might be a way to end the war and ukraine. the way 1st i have to to correct to this is not about swapping territory for membership. it's about saying that ukraine, the food of the whole, a q crane within it's internationally recognized folders that should become a nature member. but the way i'll take a 5,

which is the collective defense because of nature applies to ukraine. why should clearly see less or effectively against russia? dr. code 5 should apply to the know, know, could pipe product ukraine. so that's basically nature meant the sheets become supposed to be do. so this is about giving, i mean, trends solution to the long objective off for membership for you crate and why i think the complex is important. first, obviously what matters in the day to day struggle is to provide as many with funds as quickly as possible. so that the ukrainian forces can find the fight and kind of a fair chance basically taking as much of the parts or resources as possible. but what we have seen is that every time, and this is especially the efficient building, with the late, sometimes 6 months late from what the ukraine and forces need to actually be

successful. and the quantity as well. she'll be missing, as we know how to be wise. there is going to be an increasing green gap between what your plan has except to stop by what the russians have. also, thanks to their doc deals with the north koreans. so, width and supply is the day to day support. we need to give to you, craig, but it's not enough to actually make 2 credits 40 successful. this is where the political commitment to once you crate is super important and it's 24. it's your membership. and this is hopefully going to be a positive green light in december, whether europe and heads of rights will invite you create any special nature membership and the membership is the game changer. and tell us, you know, a little bit more about something that you did mentioned there, um, which is very much on the minds of many, especially, um, a, you know, a nato and ukraine. indeed military donor for teak. seems to be a real thing,

especially with the, the war raging right now in gaza. if your proposal remains just that, if you know they do not decide to take you up on that idea, do you think that nato has alternative plans to support its partner, ukraine, and to bring this war to an end? or what's on the table right now? i again, i do, but i see the mediator, we don't there fatigue is a bit of a shock. i think we, we still have a lot of capacity. is just that politically. we have been holding back both by lean, but also washington. and obviously, washington is in the middle of a difficult moment in terms of a lack of bipartisan consensus on, on certain things including ukraine. but in europe, europe has been contributing both in half of the support to, to credit for the military support. and that's the gemini still has some capacity

to go to have the ukraine. and so he's not just, but the, i think it's politico a come each month and, and we have the industrial bite to actually, i'll do russia. but again, we have to have the political could be fun thing to dennis on what the problem is. so i do see that we have what you fix for ukraine to have, you know, and to succeed. but again, i think the only way for them for the to stop letting me put to is not just going to be tanks. and this 16 is going to be natal membership. this is going to be the war that she will not there crossing because she has never there cross the the optic on 51. thank you so much for joining us to share that view for free is plenty . as i mentioned, ceo of rasmussen, global policy, political analysts, and former nato director of policy planning, the appreciate it. thank you very much. and when other news for days iceland has been racing for a major, volcanic event. authorities have declared

a state of emergency on a peninsula south of the capital reykjavik, the town of glinda. vic has been evacuated ahead of expected lava flows. thousands of residents could lose their homes, and a power plant supplying electricity for the region is also at risk. a critic, 40 kilometers south of re cubic has become a ghost town. police ordered the almost 4000 residents to evacuate as hundreds of minor earthquakes of shaking the town for over a week. roads are ruined and buildings are damaged. experts warrant that a 15 kilometer quarter of magma under the town could erupt at any point. residents who evacuated wait in line for a chance to return to their homes and gather belongings. the one is so i'm really concerned about their home and the things they own. we already have some homes that are computer damage because of the other quick's we're allowing people to go for 5 minutes and we told one person for me to own goes 5 minutes and graphs all of and

that says that these they need while experts agree a volcanic eruption is likely no one can say when or where it will occur, for what will be left of for into the when residents are finally allowed to return . was in good in the yesterday and everything is really much damaged. so is this is it found i was born and raised so so it's very have high levels of sulfur dioxide in the air are assigned that the magnet is close to the surface. usually an indication that any russian will follow . for now, all anyone can do is wait and hope the lava spares the town. and finally, frances toasting the 1st bottles of this year as wind harvest in keeping with strict tradition the 1st bush of a new bell was uncorked at midnight on the 3rd thursday of november for the red

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timeline because we can take the different w to call the world, unpack pulse of your info and all the input u, v. w installed. now on to the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to this week's focus on europe with neil is show. the war in the middle east is shaken people in europe to in major cities many are taking to the streets to demonstrate against violence. around 300000 people, march through london in

a pro palestinian demonstration. they called for an immediate cease fire. and an