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the the, this is the, the, the news why from binding israel was published students to leave pots of southern cause, the cold comes, the soldiers continue to search out, see, for hospital in the know, looking for proof. but how boss is using the seems complex as a come on sense. also on the program, us president joe biden's best best been real progress and he's 1st face to face tools in a year with chinese president change and thinks about a site. they were the best of relations despite lingering tensions. the possible fast track to nato membership for ukraine dw looks as
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a comfortable should idea being floated by full monday to achieve best phase grove . the west of support for you, crime is waning the . i'm so glad to welcome to the program is really full series of ones, palestinians, and pots of southern gaza to move to safety, signaling expansion of it's offensive games time us move threatens to was a humanitarian crisis in an annual, already crowded with one and a half 1000000 display people. all the north is driving forces in gaza. city have been advancing on the idea says the sportage shows troops in combat the pose of gaza, but it claims to have operational control as to driving outhouse. fine says it while we use radio, it has released a video that it claims as evidence that hamas has been using. obviously, if a hospital as a command center,
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a mass on hospital officials did not have the claims and the images have not been independently verified. for military kids, for one mazda service alive. relay amunition fighting wrist with insignia both and of course uniforms as less than the police. founder of april 7th, we switched age sages right or is prove it to mass was using our chief a hospital as a command center, as a mass. and the hospital is management denied the claims and all, but now we use while defense for us to say they have evidence behind the scenes, as well as military claim. the video shows caches of weapons and other equipment. this is left behind by the minutes tops. absolutely no business being inside the hospital. i mean, so you might have these findings in the sheets hospital approved unequivocally that it was used for terrorism in complete violation of international law who's moved up
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that dean up in little me been now seeing how master and his dismissed israel is claims as quote lies and propaganda to the right o surgery. widespread international condemnation is that i, it was military incursion into on chief a hospital in guys i city is totally unacceptable. hospitals are not brought to grounds with the humanitarian crisis in gaza, becoming ever more desperate. the united nations security council adopted its fast resolution on the conflict. 12 of the 15 members, that's the resolution calling for an urgent, an extended humanitarian pauses. russia, the united states and the united kingdom, abstained. the un security council resolutions are legally binding,
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but with feelings running high all around the calls, the pauses may well go and had asked the w correspondent tanya cramer, in jerusalem about these ready warnings to residents of pops of southern gaza to leave. well, it's a very difficult situation for people in the south of call. so because of residents have reported at least slips red dropped, that they should move towards the west. this concerns mainly the area as far as we understand from was a sign you. so a lot of these are areas where it, which are more to the east and next to the city of han units. and this is exactly the area code part of the area where people were told to leave from the north. so the area is old by the very crammed and full of people. so there are, unfortunately now again, a told a to move. it's no specified exactly what that could mean. of course,
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what the military has in mind, and i think we have to wait the next couple of hours to see. we're just basically happening devin in this area. so is military operations do rolling to the south wherever the palestinians expected to find shelter? well, this is exactly the problem because this trip is a very narrow place. i mean it's called the gaza strip and there's not much space. so people have been moving about an estimate, this number of 1500000 people out of the 2200000 people approximately that list and the gaza strip there on the move that has been displaced from the north to the south. some people are still also in the north, and there's simply no space for them to move around and be seen already that the many tyrants situation also in the south is very difficult with the basic necessities that update barely available for them. so it's not quite clear, you know what, this will mean for them where they would have to go. i also ask this question to
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the army, but they haven't given the response yet. me well right around, i'll schafer hospital continuing. can you bring us up to date that well, we only understand, i mean the, the army in the military is operating in different areas in the north. going to send the operating in shockey of the reference. just kind of also the ports of the in, in the port area across the city, but also still in, in schiffer where they said they're continue as they describe it as focused a searches a to, to hospital this rate in to see for hospital began a, an early wednesday morning and they have produced some photos of a weapons that they reportedly found there, but they haven't yet given any evidence of their claim that the come on sent to or from us is underneath this hospital. so they're operating in many different areas.
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of course right now in the north and we will have to wait and see how far they will get there. thank you for that time you dw corresponded tanya crane and she was well guessing reliable information. the hours of gaza has become increasingly difficult. conditions for john, this is dangerous and only a few people have made hours of the territory, causing generally higher than about lucia is one of them will talk to him in just a moment. first of is a short profile, including a few images he recorded from beach journey out of the territory. husband boucher, a long time reporter and dw contributors since 2012. he's covered many conflicts between israel and him, us, but he says, this war is like nothing else he's experienced. he's had to strike a balance between objective reporting, where he's about his family and his personal feelings. as it goes on. this footage he took of his neighborhood for him, it was clear he could not return. the area has been under fire since october 7th.
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the day of hamas is terror attacks on israel. husband moved south and kept trying to get the news out. i'm in power outages and with no internet. he took this photo of a boy struggling to stay in touch. how some took with him just a few keepsakes like this leaflets dropped by the is really army warning people to flee the north. he called the leaflet from a rooftop and a refugee camp. on november, 3rd, he took this footage of his long wait at the rasa crossing to enter egypt, and then made his way to jordan. one of the few lucky ones to get out. he says he feels guilty leaving his wider family behind as well as all the other girls in school have nowhere to go. well, 100 and pollution is now safe in jordan's capital amount and joins us not well. welcome back, i haven't. i'm how do you feel about being ours? have guys in there?
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it's a mixed feeling to be honest and i'm, i'm happy for myself. my family as well. especially my children that we are out and safe. we are not under bombardment as we used. we are able to reach war to and, and, and have a good food. but in the same time, it's very hard for me to, to leave and my mind rest of the rest of my family, your extended family brothers and sisters and father on the journey itself. what was that like? and i'm hiwassee to the roof of border crossing. i don't, he was very tough and very hard. we. i lent about myself being on the list around for a m. and the day i left on november 3 and i moved out of and over the recent g, the ice state, and most that could be, can be in the center and goes a strep. i, i was struggling to uh,
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to get some guys lean for my car to be able to drive. i was out of it. and luckily, the day before i secured 4 liters with the very high price. and that made me able to drive down to rafa. we are, i arrived there about 7 and 7 30 in the morning and till about 7 pm in the same day, i crossed out over the egyptian terminal, plus 6 to 7 hours driving to cairo. and then we stayed there for a for a week then uh, last friday i came to our man here. yeah, that was you said that about having to get the federal. that's just a very vivid reminder of even issue get the good news that you can get out. your, your troubles are only just sort of starting given the, the, the conditions that are in the temperature in the mood. well, the situation in dogs is, is very hard. i'm still a test of the place,
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but because of 2 things, main mainly is like because of my family and they are my house. is there properly? it is destroyed as its parts of the uh, the ground evasion area. and secondly, because i am a journalist and i am a keeping an eye on it. and i'm still reporting. and i'm, you know, trying to do my best from here, from my mind, communicating with people. and they are with the situation is miserable. and just like half an hour ago, there was a new blackout as the communication companies announced and no longer ability to uh, operate the, the, the stations and the towers. so we are not able to communicate, what are the new people there, or even they can't communicate with each other, right. and so i know it's, but you're still in touch with people and things are getting was sort of people
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just sort of resigned to a, to a terrible situation. continuing to be terrible. well, it is terrible from day one. and, but i mean, as the war continued for long time, things are getting harder, little of the mobility of goods, little availability, or 4 to a people run out of, of cash. and prices are raised up and some, some items like do a 4 or 5 times or even more in some, in some, some items. and people are more people are killed, more casualties. hospitals are not able to treat patients. and there is a huge load. i'm, i'm communicating with people, it's very hard to connect them even with that, the liability of communication in theory, but reaching them with their, with the lack of electricity and, and, and, and, and taking those, you know, like it's very hard i,
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i try like 20 times at least to reach someone in gauze and there is no internet um, uh today i talked to my brother there and he says like the price is at least for uh, for the food uh, 4 times. right. then it used to be when i you were there, i totally how people i should talk to 2 people in garza, how did they re god, how may i assist a wide spread? suppose all i got the so well in dollars that people are divided. i'm not attending a secret, there are some voices criticizing how much i'm claiming it for what happened. and they say that out loud on and on session on social media where the reviews or sticks i so many tweets, many posts on, on facebook and, and some, some on instagram and some the, what's the groups i talk to people personally when i was there or now when i'm out,
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i'm talking to people, still some people are could. so i think i'm asked, but in the same time, there are other people who are supporting uh, what they call that resistance. and the blame is, well, this is what these will is not, this is because of as well is doing at maybe they are not supporting what happened on, on october 7 and, and, but still that they blame as well for what's happening right now in garza. okay, thanks for that. so a 100, a good talking to i as ever. glad you're safe. i look forward to speaking to you again. so there's hope of improve relations between the will set to super powers falling towards between us at present and joe biden. and china is present, jason paying out of some use of asia pacific nations being held in california. both lisa said they wanted. bassett size is probably the meetings that careful scripting coming from the president by dave to threaten to the rail. some of the progress of
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the world's 2 most powerful men meeting face to face for the 1st time in over a year. despite the genteel background, this was a high stakes summit, aimed at improving difficult relations between the us and china. i value our conversation because i think is perma so you want to understand each other clearly leader to leader with no misconceptions or miscommunication. as we have to ensure the competition does not 0 and the conflict. plenty to us is big enough for our 2 countries to succeed. and one countries success is an opportunity for the of the of the full hours of tools. the 2 was sent to have taken positive steps forward to the president boynton. and howard going, including a decision to restock military communications, were re assuming military to military contact,
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direct contacts as to why the press no follow this. that's been cut off has been were worse, and that's how accidents happen. misunderstandings, so we're back to direct open, clear direct communications on the right of a direct basis. they also discussed controversial subjects like taiwan. but it was biden's response to a question about whether he would still refer to she as a dictator. the raised eyebrows that didn't land well with beijing, which after dinner off to the tulips president, she was keen to focus on the 2 super powers working together to youth home. china is willing to be a partner and friend with the united states. you as well. i'm at 40,
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i will send a mental principles and handling chinese us relations, mutual respect, so peaceful coexistence looking well. and when, when cooperation was work on the fact that she and by didn't match, a tone is being held to success with a relations between china and the us actually improve will be down to them. so we'll take a look at some of the headlines from around the world will start hitting jobs. they will start to use of kind of as a series of raids on organizations with suspected things to the has belonged groups . 50 full rates were carried out across the country over night. let's just connect it to an organization. colby humbug islamic center, essentially suspected of supporting has prolong germany recognizes as a terrorist organization. spanish parliament has voted for acting, the prime minister petro sanchez to form
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a new government is narrow when comes asked, assigning a controversial deal with to cast them on pro independence process. deal granted amnesty to hundreds of separatists and exchange for the posse. support informing a go each night surface and the new kind will one day become a member of the military alliance. but said that con, top and as long as the country is at war, one permanent voice has floated the idea of making care of a member, except for the areas under russian occupation. but would allies take on a new member in conflict with russia? dw terry schultz reports. could you premium president the letter mirror zelinski, get his wish, of joining nato now? former nato chief underscore rasmussen is promoting an idea that has rarely been raised in public before offering ukraine. nato membership without regaining crimea . don bass and the other territories. moscow has legally ceased. rasmussen argues
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that need those collective security guarantee article 5 would then deter further russian expansion. but even some leaders who advocate ukraine's rapid nato accession say this formula would be a kremlin victory. i mean through total integrity, something you know, have that has to be sacrifice giving away something for something. it should not be, you know, it should not work like this. ukrainian parliamentarian audrey or sent you. it says it's a non starter for keith like, you know, pointing deal today has beek b to destroy your brain as independent country, any ceasefire, any freezing of the conflict? any compromise, would you just g, a time for ross of to reload the last time a similar idea emerged from the realm of rumors was in august when secretary general un stilton bruce, chief of staff stinson, suggested that a form in norway that ukraine giving up some russian occupied land may be a path to peace. this caused an immediate uproar forcing stilton birth to clarify
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that nato's position supporting ukraine's territorial integrity had not changed. the instant had to say, keep misspoken, but defense analyst, edward hunter, christie says the real mistakes are being made. there is a gap between official positions which express the ideal outcome of ukraine recovering its entire territory and the actual level of aid of military age. in particular, that allies are prepared to give. they need the full range of tools so that they have a real chance of changing facts on the ground. and then we can see where diplomacy leads. he says, well, nato could bring the free part of ukraine into the alliance. now that would weaken both of them. all commitment is to restore the full territory of ukraine and strategically and the military and legally and for the incident, for reputation and prestige of the alliance. we need to go all the way with this, but all the way is so far away that keeping it supporters fear weapons deliveries
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will dry up too soon. forcing president zelinski to consider options like the rasmussen proposal to give up pieces of his country and call it piece. and tony schultz jones as not from brussels, welcomed terry. so how could a deal for ukraine to join nato right away? how would that work? i don't see how it could work, felt personally and we don't have that many details yet from under. so rasmussen on how he thinks it would work. he's given an interview. he sent out a few uh, social media posts on this, but we don't exactly know the details of how he thinks. for example, the security guarantees could be applied to ukraine except for the occupied areas. you know, how would you, how would you sort of look across that border russian troops and keep part of ukraine safe? there's a lot of skepticism about how this proposal would work. but as i said in that piece, this is not the 1st time i'm hearing this. this is just the 1st time that anybody
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has put their name to it. there been rumors that plans like this are on the table now for many months. right? so skepticism you, you mentioned that from a nato allies. anybody putting that hands up and saying, yeah, this is a good idea. nope, none of that i've spoken to so far and remember that it's not just that keith would have to agree to it. russia would also have to agree to this, and the premium parliamentary and said rusher hasn't given up his ideas of taking all of ukraine, so he doesn't even think about him. you're putting would be willing to discuss this . but let's remember how hesitant nato allies have been to even send equipment for ukraine to defend itself. so when you talk about possibly applying article 5 to ukraine, which could require nato allies to send their own troops to defend this territory. i just don't see how you're going to get anyone to back this plan. right at the defense on the list in your report said a deal to allow only parts of ukraine into
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a native would weaken the alliance. and we can ukraine. is there an argument that having kept up such as having kept such a massive ad vestry as russia at bay? you claim mice that should be strengthened nature. militarily, there's no question that ukraine would be the strongest army inside nato, and that nato allies would learn a lot from ukraine's battlefront experienced. but what edward 100 christie was saying is that the credibility of the alliance, which of course came out and said, crimea, is ukraine will stand with ukraine, as long as it takes me to ukraine's territorial integrity is, you know, a matter of international law. the pro credibility would be so last and russia is a propaganda value. and being able to say that it had one that it had forced nato to accept, you know, a piece meal ukraine. he said that would weaken nato. and of course, giving up so much of its territory would obviously we can ukraine. so i just haven't talked to anyone and i've tried to find them who thinks that this would be
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a workable plan. okay, thanks. that's terry dw, corresponds into tell you schultz in brussels. so let's go. so the cranium, capital, whoever finds the actual responding to it and it comes with a so a nic, just hearing from terry that, that seems like a bit of a known stuff and the from the ukranian perspective. how realistic is this proposal from the former? and they said, chief what has to be said that as terry mentioned, that they're all scouts details on this. and it kind of be interpreted in a different way. there's an interpretation that this would mean some kind of implicit acceptance on the part of ukraine, but it's not going to get the rest of it. so occupied territory back. but there is one interpretation and the, and this referencing did give some grounds that you believe that this actually would be essentially a no fly zone and no, no booming zone for government health territory that would allow your training forces to focus on the battlefield where they wouldn't have native support, but knowing that base like you have where i am now would be safe from brushing attack. but as you know has mentioned, this is a very, very early stuff,
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and he is not someone who is an official post right now. has to be said there he is a frequent visitor hearing cube. he has a regular structure, talks with the presence, let's get number 2 under the get a mux. it's not like missing someone who has no connection to ukraine and isn't seen as a friend of ukraine. and there are even voices here and keeps saying, yes, this is in perfect. there are lots of questions, but at least this is tool called nature membership rather than the kind of rather that thing direct, but actual guarantees that were being proposed. more recently, when ukraine was refused a direct pathway to membership at that some of the villainous in the summer. so some different voices here in cuba and at least to some your happiness. what kind of recognition of this is talking about memberships. people make comparisons with west germany where, you know, but certainly wasn't member of nature even though eastern me, that whole process of reunification was not clear at the time. but it is certainly something that is gonna be very, very difficult to implement. and some european follows that fissions do seem to be wavering in the result of this war. nick, how is ukrainian results?
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certainly people are tired and lots of people have been fighting out front lines for the best part of 2 years and have had scant time to relax. so to kind of recover physically and mentally. but i think the alternative, some kind of deal on most of those times, it's just not something that people here are willing to townsend's. so that paying a price and then increasing talking about that price in terms of the, of the health since it was lives lost and in terms of the financial economic side of the country. but the alternative is really not something that anyone wants to talk about. when you talk to people in ukraine, they say it will just give the russians more time to rebuild. they all still intent on taking this country under the serv influence. and if we don't do the job now, we will not be able to do it in the future time. so that's not nic dw, correspond to nick connelly and keith, the exxon dw watches, vision paying on jo bivens meeting a main for tie. wong, better spanish a has that on both in the news, is that in just a moment,
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