would obviously we can ukraine, so i just haven't talked to anyone and i've tried to find them who thinks that this would be a workable plan. okay, thanks. that's terry dw corresponds into tell you schultz in brussels. i said show up tonight, but golf we'll have more. well here's the top of our adult film is next. looking at the potential research itself is i've explained a good day the to the special hot spots in germany. dw extremely worth a bit of a

bass. so he assumed, glorifying death and violence. these are the children of isis members. they growing up in a refugee camp in ridge of ne, in syria. this is a violent environment. if you leave the children back here, then you can say this would be the next generation of prices fight this. oh whoa, is the largest of the camps in the region. and it's considered the most dangerous in the world. and whole will turn into a ticking time bomb for further and future terrorist organizations in 2019 cody slid. forces succeeded in taking back the region from isis rule, but the militant group remains of france. but keep that o. j headed vista for the l, have the value, can we put an end to isis control? the 1st off uh to the organization. and its audiology still exists here. but the

including in the prisons where isis terrorists of being held since the end of the fighting by the autonomous code is government that controls northeast in syria. a jim and is it gives us a heads up. we have about 12000 isis prisoners, a close off as economy can cope with that on its own, which one of the codes who live here feel abandoned. and they run the threat from the neighbors. the turkish president re chip tell you add one say to a terrorist took, he has loans to repeat the defensive seem or java us . i'm it could still make it based in brussels together with google on a curtis journalist. i'm traveling to read java in northeast and syria. often many attempts we finally been given permission to visit some of the most dangerous

places in the region. we want to find out what the legacy of the fight against isis means. the ridge of and it's people, it's october 2021. we've just cross the border into syria. there's no mistaking how dangerous the situation he is still is. a suicide bowman has blown up a truck loaded with explosives very close by shoreline drive. the judges us to move on as quickly as possible. the fee is the 2nd attack shallow and used to be in the syrian army. during the civil war, he deserted and fled to the cookies regions. there he joined the militia. he's an driver and 40 god and he's heavily on the people here. peaceful

who knew their pro government so long as it's in control, but lead support isis of it came back to the office still peace. the town of committee sleep directly on the syrian so it gets pulled up. this is the home if the autonomous administration of northern and eastern syria, as well as java is officially cold. not long after the start of the syrian civil war, the codes who lived in the oil rich ne, set up an autonomous region and declared self rule. but it's not especially recognized by the government of syria or indeed any states the road. java is a thorn in the side of turkish president ad one in particular. you hum ahmed code

president of its executive council explains why those are the 2 key. what's the quote, how do you the most it onto the, how well, since it's the foundation in 1923 to the turkish republic call has denied the very existence of us current of the so the, the government is afraid that recognizing kurdish identity in turkey, co a good week and turks as an ethnic group and divide the nation most of the month to community digikey pest. you have the best for you to the, the fun in this money. but here in rhode java, the native language kurdish is taught in many schools. so the key i need to stick you, bear with me. turkey does not accept that the holding the ticket with that it's why it's fighting against us sort of because it fears that the kurds in turkey might then demand the same should even try etheridge, who would say mano,

can you deal with edwin's main accusation is that right, java and it's militias. a realize that the p k. k, the code is done work as policy. he classifies the militant code, each group which is now based primarily in turkey as a terrorist organization. as to the a you and the us, i'm thinking good. that age and uh how about the so p k. k was active for enroll job for a long time one, but in the 1980s the movement spread here. the kurds in syria were oppressed at the time and had no right 110 of them pick it in the serious goods. now, rejecting association with the p k. k u is shown, then you ruge on, but then get today ro, java is forging its own. pansy, the economist administration,

and the p k. k. are not the same to pick and do have the back of the, the codes here in re java have themselves loan being threatened by terrorism. and we instrumental in ending as tara, in the region. the, we're on our way to meet and there for us. um it come under the kurdish dominated military alliance, the syrian democratic forces the sds. before we left, we had to hand over our mobile phones, its standard practice precautionary measures since took each combat drones began targeting. could each come on this let's give that o j head of the for the i'll have the value. can we put an end to i asked control of a solver. but the organization and its ideology still exists here, but it's still active. it's still carrying out terror attack it assume to 2000

bucks and not just against the armed forces to get in, but also against a civilian miscarry. we want to visit the territory once claimed by isis before it was ousted by co, despises. we traveled to rocco, the former unofficial capital of the islamic states, the evidence of the destructive fight against the g head is he's everywhere. the rock crowd became the purest example of this kind of fits ideology. isis have this public, the headings, you know, these terrible pictures that reached us from america. they had a school system where they were looking at the children and the right ones. would they be trained to become leaders later on the not. so smartphones would be trained

to become suicide bombers. and yet they used black. com for their own propaganda, especially to the outside world for trading this as the paradise point of calling for muslims all over the world and muslims, brothers and sisters, to join the kind of fit to build something new. that was how life has managed to a tens of thousands of foreign sizes. i'll drive it tells us that rocca is still on the safe and judges us to leave. what's become of the terrorist malicious vices after they were defeated. thousands of them were imprisoned in prisons like i'll seen a 2 l surprise we granted permission to fill them inside the prison. the j. o is a breeding ground for isis, explains come on to jamal, see also for the terrorist and he's on easy

a bounce out visit. the security situation is to tense, he says, and we sent it to my hands are shaking as i hold the camera. the roar of generations, these everywhere, and the stand, she's on bearable. jamal shows us around. suddenly details are still feeling a door opens and i see hundreds of isis prison is crowded together. many of them are injured. some are missing limbs. the space that held in is cramped beyond the leaf by 2 and my camera back on as we into the infirmary, is just one straight to ear of these ices prisoners. the doctors, they treat thousands of inmates in return. they have a little more space under. we're allowed to live together in this room and but us the campus of ship is we set up these prisons under difficult conditions. we

weren't prepared for what happens after the victory against i s and the battle of a goose, and we suddenly had to taken more than 5000 i as fighters fish has other c and domain dice. and i guess 10 the ice is prison is cook, their own food jim owns is quietly not to get too close to them. tc is they? most of the tank coasts with boiling cooking oil, we take into the main wing at the prison with the inmates exercise time in the yard is about to begin. come on to jamal, allows us to go up to the watch tower to film. gould on, however, is told to stay out of sight. she's not wearing a headscarf, and jamal is worried. this will provoke the prisoners. most a foreign jihadists who came to syria via to key to join isis. how did you wait to

see something, or you just make your flight to check if there's someone waiting for you, she will take you, and then you will take you over the bottle. so it was something very easy in the the gods they were welcoming you, dest, they're not stopping you, they're not going to any that was something which i think was politically and the benefits of turkey. most of these prisoners have been here or in other prisons in the region for years. no one knows what awaits them. amid this uncertainty, young man in particular, continue to radicalize g, like, you know, it gosh, the kid can available as a new generation of ice is emerging here. one of these people have been imprisoned for a long time flask if they call themselves ash about a caliphate. to the cubs of a caliphate. they were child soldiers between 13 and 18 years old when they came here and how much this thing done and the older prisoners indoctrinate them,

turned them into committed. i. spiders. they are extremely dangerous. you have to do that. that's the case that i've had good, the prisoners do it as a reaction. i don't know which kind of free action, but it's a defend from one to the other. maybe one along. he really, he really has a vengeance. maybe one us, the able to become more uh, more extremist, you know, maybe some people, they will get crazy. they will lose their minds in the prison. you know? so it would create many bad results. you understand as more of the, extend our, the presence in the, as this presents, this will make more problems, or in a bit of a month. our goal is to return the prisoners to their home country to sleep. but as long as they are here, we have to make sure the presence are secure. the inmates often take tunnels to try and escape the columbus would that come on those days to enjoy the attempt at

escapes are common, the majesty so far we've always managed to support them. we always discover the tunnels and the time that the one the you're behind the bar, even the most important task with your brothers, we will never forget. and then what i'm literally confused are the we have a king coming coming. we don't know how much longer we can secure the presence of what we have hired more guards, but that is not enough. we need a safer place and have a better monitoring system on them until their home countries take them back on top of your p in spades. yours the legal

lien. both in bras of 2 parts. their own jihad is there, you know, and some states, especially my state, for example aust, i'm not willing to take the responsibility for the citizens and they hope that if they box them, they error, they will somehow they should be in light of the conditions here. some human rights organizations have referred to these prisons as a new guantanamo. do you think we shall fall will become the next one. tell them oh no board. i'm not able to give a rusty any of you know. yeah, absolutely not. so you can get a good study. moving to g, g is the prisons were setup of fighting was ongoing. we set them up in former school buildings. homeless is going to give that stuff to you on get it metal or because we know that the spiders home countries don't want them back to that, that, that means these countries have to help us create an international tribunal within

the 3 or the g. or they have to pay the cost to hold the highest spiders. here wasn't a whole business. any you sonya looking at which i gave up to tier 2. we have about 12000 isis prisoners here. has a real job as economy can't cope with that on its own equipment to kind of look over here over here on which i'm going to go ahead and i'll visit to the prison ends abruptly. jamal thinks it's too quiet and something must be about to happen. it feels like the calm before the storm. we have to leave we want to learn more about the feelings against our assessing range of what traces has it left here. we had to come bonnie new the to the syrian border. it was here that bias was pushed back for the 1st time, the beginning of its downfall. in september 2014, the jihad has launched a massive attack on the city. the code, each point is put up, see us resistance, the east met house on organized the defense of the city.

how about uh, set it does say all the might be, it is good. isis going through the taxes from 3 signs of what we wanted to push them into the city. it's narrow streets just because that's where we have the best chance with the modest weapons we have. we look, let's see that you've shut the. we learned that people here are especially proud of the young women whose forward against isis in was java . y p j, the women's protection unit. so the female advocates within the y p g they had a very important role when it came to the bed of co, bonnie because these women are very dedicated. they know when of a they are being captured, buys fighters, they will be violated, they would be, wait, they would be killed. so they have a very committed in this fight. we meet one of them. fuck my last and in the battle. today she helped support others wounded in the funny thing. like many

here, she's still haunted by memories to go and the good and the basically they kept shouting. if we catch you, we will eat you because know all the time they were calling us names or whether you like it or not. you cannot escape fear in battle. how did you become? and that is why you mustn't turn it into courage and faced it. his head on, you're aware that the people who live here depend on you. if you give up, they will suffer for them and they will be hurt. that's why you have to fight. as i'm sure you will get the measured version for this should have received the why was i so so able to become so powerful in the 1st place. and what role did neighboring turkey play and it's rice, isis, a tech, the kurtz to take over co. bonnie chucky was standing by not helping the crowds

because it was kind of interesting for years. chucky had let, is almost hide this from all over the world and how does try to some of using the talk you soon border to come to syria to join the service groups there, even isis. so this is what the called the jihad is. highway in 2014, then us going as president job. i didn't commented our allies in the region were our largest problem in syria. and the church present early. one told me is an old friend said you are right. we let too many people through. i ran the license campaign, 40000 foreign fighters jihad is from 110 countries around the world. all came and a series of fight in that war. and they all came through turkey was in turkey, more than any other countries to have them sealed their border and they would not do it. they said they couldn't do it, but the minute the occurs to parts of the borders totally see over the wall. in

september 2014, the us decided to provide military support for the could each fight against isis at the middle of the most of the ship. it was an alliance against terror. on behalf of all humanity, he blew me. uh, that's what made it unique, that no one ever would have expected the kurdish people's defense units and america to join forces you good. how about in the truck i'm needing i'm. i'm did not get here. i think we can see we defended the world. news caught the dogs, the prices have been successful here. how would you want to? i would have would have pushed in grave danger to the world and they go to see them . that's why the world supports us today. the 3 get us funding the co money that can the income bonnie alone more than $1000.00 dakota experiences with killed the

we drive through an area with the fighting continue loan of to the initial victory . it took full years to defeat the tara militias. the international alliance played a crucial role. so the americans turn to the soon democratic forces and the s t f is made up mainly by what could you provide to us, but the rest, some of the minority groups, christian groups militias, but included into the s t s. so they became the main ally of the wisdom on to ices alliance. you know, tell me a bit 2017. they succeeded in defeating i succeed, rucker. 6 after 4 years of brutal occupation under the so called isis cal, rocca,

it's capital is livery. the americans announced they would train a force $30000.00 strong to god the syrian took his buddha to prevent choices from returning to college. president ad one reacted angrily and threatened military action should move gently similar america is building a terror army along our border because it's we must destroy it before it's created. so the, the hallmark rush of and now had to defend itself. no, totally against only says, but also against the threatened invasion by texas. the toki showing me, boomed towns on the border, including offering the attacks claimed some 1500 lives and to more than 100000 people were displaced. but the could,

each majority militias continued to find the march 2019. with the help of air strikes carried out by international coalition forces by goose, the last ice of stronghold was captured. the general no rose general mosley commander of the syrian democratic forces. i'd like to offer a statement on behalf of the government of the united states. we congratulate the syrian people, and particularly the syrian democratic forces on the destruction of isis is fraudulent calibrate. the ration of isis is remaining territory and eastern syria. so he continued to threaten the tax on roche java and cold on the u. s. army to withdrawal at the u. n. in new york, president ad one presented his plan for what he called a peace,

colorado in northern syria. an attempt to control an area that makes up a large positive or java point in the says, the sort of, you know, we must eliminate the p k. k y, p g terrorist organization in syria. their territories cover a quarter of syrian territory yet use are ruled by a group that someone to d criminalize under the name syrian democratic forces up the well to the 6 that we are proposing to create a piece, corporate or 30 kilometers wide and 480 kilometers long and resettle 2000000 syrians and turkey. there with the support of the international community. is john solomon, the idea of creating the secuity zone alongside the took us to in border self a double goals? first of all, he wants to contain curtis autonomy on the student side of the board. the 2nd goal

is to reset the suit and refugees inside syria. because turkey has taken an almost 4000000 soon. refugees, it's a huge burden on the society. the idea is if he controls these border area, so you can send some 1000000 students back to these areas, which would mean that you have some kind of an ethnic cleansing. that because these areas wouldn't have the to the kurdish population, tens of thousands of them had to flee from the children's interventions before. and now he wants to reset the main, the arab syrians to that area, which will definitely not help within the secret society to reconcile until this together peacefully. you know, total bit 2019 us troops made of surprise withdrawal from result of on then president trump sort is the move left to people in the region desperate to get those public. she

would she could jani what to. yeah. and with the new quote, suddenly they just left and people said, well, could we, curbs have been betrayed again, it should not have happened to you quoted, but america had the power to assert itself against turkey. for the sake of all the victims as a courtesy of $21000.00 soldiers, that the syrian democratic forces and not one american soldier was injured during the level. that's the state we were in. the traffic was a hold to immediately after the withdrawal of us troops took, he launched its 30 invasion diverse java operation piece spring by add one according to the un. more than 100000 people were displaced today. many of them still live in refugee camps inside their own country. the worship

connie camp is home to some 16000 internally displaced people who is a tech, the tech just we were homeless slice here without children service. you're my friend. there's another during our children are growing up in the wilderness. how do we live like dogs here the the music. com done today heading mental health and there are 8 of these refugee camps in the regions. the u. n. hasn't yet supplied any aid to the caps. the syrian regime is blocking it. we have the un can only health through the syrian government, which prevent aid from reaching these refugee cancelled beyond the, on the cutting of a coffin, a tunnel,

these people are not even recognized as refugees. they're getting no help whatsoever. she wants us to, even though they have lost everything and it does nothing, it is an atrocity. bought a keep good look. a good on the full extent of the problems ridge of it he's facing is becoming clear to us. but how exactly can the west contribute to greater security and stability in the region that can come easily? we have, let's do caring, oma. the 1st 2nd best. first day is you back and have the deep. we have tons of mrs. ministration of cold on the western alliance to establish an international tribunal, it should be here in northeastern syria who couldn't because ices terrace, committed their crimes against the people of this region. but unfortunately, i, because everyone has abandoned us, we've been left to deal with a problem alone. it's a ticking time bomb, a living catastrophe in coloma,

a good enough money to pay that a time bomb. he says that's also taking in the camps with the wives. children, widows, and orphans of ices, finances leave. you know how there are willows of 50000 of them, all of whom are unable to leave the which do you mean to go to you to see on what you meant to good to come by 40. it shouldn't be any worse. the whole camp is the most dangerous camp in the world of breeding ground for a new generation of terrorist issues, we have no control over the cam company is controlled by isis. that big control. i'm gonna take the control dodge, do we may tell wait a whole. we've been given permission to film. but when we arrive, the gods tell us it's too dangerous. before they can lift that scene to the camp,

they have to find it difficult for us. and that will take a while. in the meantime, we were allowed to drive through the camp in the con, the, in a matter of minutes, little boys gather around the car, cooling us names, swearing as i'm throwing stones the, the, this is a brutal place to grow up. it's steeped in the violent ideology of isis. the code is god who does not want to be filmed, tells us that the young children in the can make just as a, as if they'll sleep. that's right. they shall have heard that she's an infidel. and that they will avenge the death of the parents. the

children begin to challenge. and on yes, bethel him. they seeing that one day they themselves will also become jihadist and sacrifice the line for the profit, the we have to leave all holes and now we drive to camp roche, 3 hours away. we're allowed to film here and some residents have agreed to talk to us. the camp is divided into one is occupied by extreme missed women. some assume have carried down to tax themselves. the other houses families who don't belong to wisest or have renowned states audiology. you haven't been a photo martin. i made a big mistake. i was wrong just on passivity of it so that i could be no, i've actually our countries should take us back to so, so that we can start a new life. the visas we

did. she tells us that she took off jose alone, international women's day. women who take off, then he kept a threatened with being burned alive. we dad has 4 young children by 2 g hardest fathers. this camp is no place for children. there's no education. this is a violent the environment and there's nothing for the children, no mex duties. so children, if you leave the children back here, then you can say this will be the next generation of prices fight this out there and fucked him of any money on on, hardy, many children are smuggled out of the camp and given to isis in the, to east the to the you're doing this is how they recruit child soldiers, vargas and doctors. it's hard, but i tried to protect my son from the radical extremist ideology and the cancer needs to scan. it will be in this and in this little video watch or, you know,

we told that these women are only a small minority among thousands of captured only as women. they see themselves as victims of vices and deny having been involved in the crimes against syrian and do rocky women and children. women loyal to weiss is on the other hand, often side children whose mothers have died simply to prevent them from being placed in the care with people they see as infidels. we drive to one of the orphanages with children who could be taken out of the camp leave about no, no, not from a or homes. they often don't even know the nationality of the children. we provide them with a good upbringing, education. we can do that to what we worry about their future. what will become of them?

the stuff was not there. all right here. thank god. and how much good 0 you take care of the children was and they said dikes to hang on at the diesel. yeah, i loved them as their mother would, and more of that when they shouldn't feel that they're not loved, manage them. i mean we may count way back to our home and on difficulties waiting for us. and we were allowed to enter the camp with the camera. the whole is a known home to a large number of hon. cool. isis to fold is it's reputed to be a haven for radicals and fanatics. this is the most dangerous part about truth as a whole has turned into a city, and it has turned into a small kind of it, because it consists of 3 parts and you've all key series. and it's

a national part with the most radical isis numbers being the internationals. now we are inside the whole, come on the boat to arrive at the mark. now this good fit had takes us to the part of the camp where the foreign women and their children leave. these women have phone the hard line group national, make only want the law of god. sure re a to apply by a judge all the children. here are the new soldiers of isis. you sit, the did very be was found this morning the every day something like this happens here and we're able to put on the side of the baby was in a plastic bag in the trash. and then many bad things happen here. immigration

doesn't mean that it won't just look, i'm woman was killed, but saw these threw her into the sewage system, and i need to many atrocities how come. but if the chance that option i'm not, i'm on, let's go to the market. so lisa todd, isn't that dangerous? no one. that's why i'm here. this is the campus market. it is organized by the residents themselves. i'm try talking to them just only 110th. i know that they've been forbidden to talk to us. yes, the it is very difficult to control to contain the living conditions are unbearable. it's very dangerous to needs foreign ices men in that camp,

especially children. because and whole will turn into a ticking time bomb for further and future terrorist organizations that could really much from f for a i'm a fish motor american in the how one visited you see the figures and bertha see that in the idea of us before and the next one, some of them are armed, man is getting it and i've got a might suddenly come out to shoot and run away, but i didn't have it. this is what happens and it's the same thing. isn't it too dangerous for us? yes, it's getting dangerous. the market is getting too crowded. it's no longer safe here . hey, easy that the ha of the they some we know that we know that the groups and a whole are well organized in our office are receiving orders from outside kind enough to be of contact with the outside of the and communicate by cellphone. they've had, well, what given it to him? i think we're changing because they get orders to attack and kill. people can tell

again so that it can change even. what did you see every day people are killed there that where the foreign women lives and a new generation of terrorist is being raised or the good to know the number of junior we believe that they will be much more dangerous than isis itself. throughout that can help you from an early age, the being fed radical extremist ideas, to which budget they're raised on a hunger, for revenge. i just figured i'd be kind of able outside of the data sharing, the i'm, the children are being groomed to become new fighters to the people health and the camps and prisons are making long term plans and they don't hide that fact. they say we're coming back and will be even stronger in the music of the

video shares the message that the islamic state will live on. it shows the flag of the callous site flying and the can. the in, fortunately and all of this turkey is helping isis, the most typical of it. austin, the yeah, the, there are many illegal cells that help people escape from the campus every day. there are attempts to escape from the account and those who succeed lead to try to print, but it didn't take a certificate of often there smuggled out with turkey's help, the in response to key says it only helps people who need to be rescued leave. i'll hold its domestic intelligence service early comes to the rescue of foreigners who want to

be returned to their home countries. our impression of i'll hold is that it's both a refugee and an internment temp. a threatening atmosphere was palpable in the camp . original of a field, highly folded toil the legacy of isis here in the region. in january 2020 to shortly after out truth many people's was the is came true to i a suicide bomb is blew themselves up outside the scene of prison videos from inside the prison circulated on social media. you definitely can see that this was a very val, organized uprising and it was an attempt actually to take over the seat. deed was not just an attempt to escape from prison wide. the suit in

democratic forces fell off against these faces uprising the house, the car to a key continued to use dead thrones against the sewer in democratic forces. so that even attacked coordinates for the driving for how to fight isis in the, in the code, each military managed to regain control about that we weren't only targeting the prison. they wanted to create chaos in a hole. in the hospital and rocco region, isis, referred to the 2nd, tell us that they wanted to retain control over the entire region. because of the 374 jihad is reported to have been killed in the fighting. and many

a believe to of escape. the command a demo, the god who showed us around the prison is one of the 77 prison stuff. who executed the and then we hear that set up the caregiver from the often each was also killed in a turkish drone strike. to a case, regression is also increasing income easily. we s l experienced in the tech as we were leaving the office around to on september 20 2022 president ad one again addressed the un and again he stated that there is no difference between the kurdish military and the terrorist. p k, k l troop. lyft is convinced that there's

a real danger of an oasis for surgeons, and very java is being left to deal with these threat on its own. what if the codes can no longer keep going? so it's under control. the repercussions will likely be felt in europe to the the, to the point. strong opinions, clear position. international perspective. turkey is a long standing member of nato president is becoming an increasingly difficult partner. defending israel is fascist pricing. how much is fair to one, steve? that's a question on to the point of drawing to the point 2 minutes, d w, the

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