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the the, this is the, the, the news coming to line from berlin. israel says it has discovered a total shock to el cheapo hospital in gaza. these really military says the young verified picture suggests from us militants were using the medical facility to command or operations. claim that's a must denies. also coming up. finding the information more social media platforms are shaping public opinion on the conflict. we have a report on the bible for hearts and minds in the war and godson. and rich of type add one heads to berlin,
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the turkish president visits germany and heated discussion about his criticism of israel and the war and got the law. i'm terry martin. good to have you with us. israel's military says its soldiers have discovered a total shaft used by him. aust militants at el cheapo hospital in northern gaza. israeli troops released a video of the tunnel entrance which could not be verified after they took control of the hospital. israel's attacks are controversial since hospitals have special protections under international humanitarian law. busy unless being used for a military purpose must have been we've gone to the building. this size is ryan, is the smoking gun the to some mass has been using now she for hospital, for its operation. after a 2nd day of reins on causes biggest medical facility 70 as well. defense forces
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said i then cover the tunnel shaft and the vehicle containing a large number of weapons of 7 uh, october 7th, quotes alma to eli. df forces found a tunnel shaft in chief, a hospital in teams of engineers are currently uncovering the infrastructure there . okay. and we also found a vehicle that had been prepared for the mass and come on october 7th. we didn't really know yet. so we found many weapons and then today let's see, model be it comes off the footage was released, sharing caches of weapons is file size. we're headed into that into the hospital. mass continues to deny the claims describing them as quote repetition of a false negative. since the conflict broke out is well repeatedly claimed a master's using guns and hospitals submitted to purposes. and as the humanitarian situation in gaza, wesson's international condemnation has gotten louder. and this route has been on
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the increasing pressure to offer a definitive proof of these claims. thoughts in a situation is 10, says this under daily reminders of the civilian suffering and gaza, it's not clear that this new evidence liked to not vote. and so let's cross straight over to jerusalem now, where are correspond? tanya kramer standing by tanya, the is really, are me says of his found to some of the tunnel and is reportedly still at the l. c . for hospital compound, what are they still expecting to find their website and the statement that was released on the thursday night that they're still operating in the ship. uh hospital special forces are going building by building as they put it . it's a large component. it's the largest hospital in a go. so in garza and goes to city as well. and they also said they're also operating in other hospitals in run teaching hospital as well as in the eclipse hospital. now in ship a hospital, they provided then
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a videos of what they say is showing a tunnel shelves inside the hospital compound of the ship, the hospital as well as a vehicle loaded with weapons. no hospital officials have denied that their weapons on the hospital compound. this is of course, happening of why as you know, we have patients inside of ship the hospital or the medical stuff as the, the, the internally displaced people that were seeking show to the hospitals thinking this is a protective space and we've been hearing from international organizations organizations like the world health organization saying that many of the hospitals now the northern part of the goals are stripped or running out of the, you know, being able to provide services to the injured people. have also those were still in the new or so it hasn't been displaced to the south. there are having difficulties
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to get to the hospital. so it's a very difficult situation. and on top of that, as well as you have communication blackouts since yesterday, because the telecommunication company paused, so said they were running out of fuel to power up the generator to keep the communication systems on. so israel says it's recovered the remains of a soldier held hostage by from us. so what more can you tell us about that on you? well this morning again, the army released a statement saying that they found the remains of a 19 year old of women soldier. she was found in her as it is called this truck to near the old shift hospital. she was actually serving as a soldier in the hose. that's a keep. it's near, very, very close to the gaza strip on october 7th,
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when the terror attack happened. she was in a captive and taken to gaza and thomas had actually put published a video of her where she was shown for us to live and then shown that she was killed on monday night. and this comes off to a, another, a bunch of your domains for sound of a hostage on thursday night, also near what the army says. the ship hospital in the building there of a 65 year old woman used to live in the keyboards. a busy husband was killed on october 7th. she was taken to gauze those. so these are the 2 of the hostages of the $239.00 hostages that are being held in gaza. and as far as we understand, you know, there are negotiations going on for the release of those hostages, but so far that has to be know a breakthrough. tanya, thank you very much for that update. that was our correspond atanya kramer there in
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jerusalem. earlier i spoke with shane the low of the norwegian refugee council. she's also monitoring developments from jerusalem. i asked her what she's hearing from the chief of hospital slow. we are hearing much of anything from gaza right now, because since about 4 pm yesterday there's been a communications blackout. so we are just in the dark as much as anyone else is. at this point, we did have staff at a ship uh as recently as last week who were seeking shelter there, but they flagged about a week ago and made their way further south. now the goal is this trip is united home to over $2000000.00 people. it's now war zone. thousands have been killed, tens of thousands injured there. what's left of the health care infrastructure in the gaza strip? well, we've been warning for weeks about the imminent collapse of the health care system
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and gaza. and it seems like we are there. i believe only a handful of hospitals are still operational in garza. we're also of course, because people are in such close quarters that do not have access to proper but clean water showers. we're seeing the spread of disease that is uh an illness. so on top of the fact that the hospitals are overwhelmed, taking care of people who have been injured, people with chronic conditions or people with preventable communicable diseases are now going to be overwhelming. what's left of the health care system. you work with a refugee organization, the norwegian refugee council talked to us about the displaced people in gauze and now because many from the north of moved to the south. but in the south, it's not really safe either understand. i know it hasn't been safe. i in this house, we're hearing up until yesterday we were hearing daily reports from our colleagues
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about airstrikes happening in the center in the house of garza. we had colleagues who have been injured and had sent members of their families be killed in these airstrikes including one of our colleagues, amount of laughter. our only child a 7 year old boy in an air strike on rough uh about 34 weeks ago. and it's really, there simply is no safe place to seek shelter in garza. and then on top of that, you have an area that really doesn't have the capacity to support all those internally displaced people. so shelters are bursting at the seams over capacity. many people are sleeping in the streets, which is increasingly worrying as the weather has transitioned here the last week and gotten significantly colder at the rains have the rain season has started and so you have issues around people, you know, being exposed to the elements flooding. uh, is a regular occurrence in garza due to poor infrastructure even before this
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escalation. so there are many concerns about how to support these internally displaced people and keep them keep them protected from the elements. let alone is really yours. for example, bergman's, many of those who have been displaced, of course, are children, talk to us about conditions for them, for children and gods, we know many been killed and injured. but what about those have been left orphaned by the fighting? who's going to care for them to you know, god has an is it is a place i'm like, any other that i've heard about where they actually in the hospitals have an acronym for um, injured child, know, surviving family. and it's really unimaginable when you have people whose entire families have been wiped out. how are you going to take care of them? we're now in a situation also where we have this communications blackouts. so even the coordination of assistance for these children is difficult. prior to this escalation of save,
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the children have reported that 80 percent of children in garza felt depressed and hopeless. imagine how had children in garza field today. we at the norwegian or to g. cancel or working in schools, providing psycho social support and training teachers to help work with children would suffer trauma and displacement. but at this point we have an entire population that's completely traumatized. shania, thank you very much for talking with us. the toy shayna low with a norwegian refugee council. the war in gaza is also a bottle for public opinion as conspiracy theories and this information flooded media channels. both israel and tomas are fighting for influence in the information spear dw spoke with a media psychologist about what viewers should be on alert for as they evaluate the content filling their feeds. on october 7, how must towers used body camps and cellphones and posted footage of the atrocities
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on take talk ex or facebook. the experts say the intention most maximum provocation, if there is a strategy and i don't have doubt that there is a strategy is 3 phone number one show. we don't have any limits. you need to be really shocked. you need to be feel terrorized and that's exactly what's terrible all about the weeks later leading how mussman must told the new york times what the a month to the ending and screaming the take was must because some and the resistance woke the road up from its deep sleep and showed that this issue must remain on the table. i hope that the state of war with us right, you will become permanent on all the borders, and that the arab world will stand with us. since these threats launched its military campaign against the mazda towers, it has killed thousands of pins, team, and civilians in the process of public perception of the
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conflict shifted images of the victims in gaza, dominated social media posts mike lee's cost shock. but they've also, let's to hundreds of eng requirements, and they have 4 have been rewarded by the platforms, algorithms, and have gained even more reach. that's exactly what, how much also does the one hand strength. carol, on the other hand, in the message you of victimization of the own population, which cynically is used by almost these really ami claims. but homicide does have hidden c'mon centers on the hospital in the gaza strip. i want too long. does this prove it has published this video of what they say is the basement on the run t c. hospital. now is the thing, however, i'm us affiliates and hospital stuff deny the existence of such center. so they
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accused israel of targeting hospitality and committing genocide in gaza for social media use us both narratives difficult to verify from the outside. however, they are widely spread across social media. this is playing a key role in the demonstrations around the world, easily and quickly transport. the emotions, half of that to anger and outrage. local groups has called for riots and the tax on jewish institutions. tens of thousands of support as of both sides have already taken to the streets world wide with social media, creating eco chambers, the narrative from both sides of furthering the divide between supporters of tennis teens and ease. read this information and phase has also played
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a role in this propaganda of all good. any not when east for its president benjamin netanyahu published a photo of a dead baby on next saying it was kids during the massacre. some social media use us, as well as the arabic, broad cost of a to z. rock claimed that the photo was in a i fake, based on this picture with a poppy. relate to analysis with an image forensics to show that the photo of the poppy had been manipulated. but false claims are coming from both sides. in this conflict. when a rocketed pots of the all the hospital in gauze on october 17th, these really influence on the new enough tale wrote that the army had struck, hidden tower was base. it later turned out that the misguided thomas rocket most likely hit the hospital parking lot. a perfect expense say on no longer needed. so this credit an opponent online
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indeed to needs to create at least doubt if those emotional videos that address already existing prejudices and an already existing emotions they've worked very well. takes room most and misinformation like that then is for a helicopter shot. the nova festival goal was often believed by social media use as the simply too much content and sources for people to check everything they see never trust. one single source, even if it's as credible as possible, don't trust anything which is immediately drastic. any emotional, always try to get a 2nd opinion. instagram take took x and other platforms has become pointed to, could bet to read us, especially in terms of pushing narrative. imagine being a refugee in your own country funds in your entire life and the case i'm coming out
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of being able to assess the content on social media and putting it into context is now more important than ever, especially since not just governments, but also tell groups like how much exploiting the potential of social media from gaza to ukraine. the european union warns that europe is also at the center of a new information war, c, w, use brussels correspondent, and lucy as rolton, as the vice president of the european commission. what can be done to distinguish fact from fiction on social media platforms, the man and vice president you recently spoke of this information as well over the years against democracy. the more and more reports right now about this information and even cyber warfare in the middle east. do you have that on your radar? of course we are out of following what's happening because so what's happening in the real life? i'm real life is not nice at this moment when we see so much mileage and getting it
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reflects an online seer and it also what's happening in online c. it has influence already allies. so that is an interaction. i would even say some kind of spit out of a hate speech hate threat and this information which showed we try to minimize us for the impact on the society. you say you try to minimize bed. how can i imagine that we are? first of all, i have a discussion, an agreement was the big platforms which is called gold of practice against this information. which of the, all the big players assigned to the last month. all the of those are in and they made a commitment that they will invest in effect checking an in delivering the effect
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and trustworthy information to the users of thought. the networks we have be it in the epi center of information roar at this moment. and we, when i say we, i mean the europe and the citizens and also represent us citizens. we cannot make a good change. we solved active cooperation from the site of the digital platforms . in september, you announced that x is the biggest source of faith and using this information. so much of it is in fact coming from rochelle to there. so what are you going to in concrete terms to about this? how i've also had the one i'm going to be to the left. i have to see. and i was also clear about it publicly and i recently i invited x to come back to the quote of like this. it goes this information that i will see if i thought it
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would be reflected somehow. what did they say allow that they are considering and felt for them the cold as they sat was demanding exercise because it also comes things reporting and so on. but i see that sometimes that is something good and bad things x or 3 to show to us. the difference between the platforms which are moderating the content which are removing illegal content, especially h beach extremism that autism child pornography and the platform which is a not doing that on which is only very mildly superficially doing that. and obviously the difference. and i think also the both as of to be taught can see that they at be a nice relation or any want you can watch the full interview with the european commission spies present on our youtube channel. that's at the youtube dot com
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slash dw news failed. turkish present, rest reply for i did want, begins a visit to germany today, the mid heated discussion here about his strong criticism of israel. and one says he has broken all contacts with his really prime minister benjamin netanyahu because of the way is realized prosecuting. it's more a guess from us in guys of the other one's views, contrast sharply with those of the german government, political leaders and berlin stress the importance of maintaining a dialogue. few foreign leaders can be less welcoming germany right now than turkey's president red chip tie up at alon has described a mass as freedom fighters and open. the question is why it was right to exist. while western nations continue to stresses males, right to defend itself in response to the october, the 7th terror attacks carried out by how much had won the keys is the west of double standards using rhetoric. some say cross is a line. i'm ready. come in the get it in the is riley government with the unlimited
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suppose of the us and west and countries has been continuing its mass because for 40 days in a row. and i say with a clear heart that israel is it terrorist state sky in be 10 to their religion. at one accuse is the west of being weak in the face of civilian deaths. and the goal is to strip and get laid wants to talk. the thoughts, it's important to us don't the conflict from spreading and turkey, of course, plays a role in this. we need to talk to each other. but the question is, how clear uh, woods will be. the chancellor, olaf shows balancing jim and his national interest with criticism of ad one will be a test of his diplomatic skill talk. he's president is under pressure at home about his country's economic problems. but on the international stage, headed one knows he's an important player, especially in the car at christ eats. the key is a vital partner for gemini,
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and nato, and the channel to most go on grading shipments out of ukraine. it can be a power broker in the middle east and is given refuge to move into 3000000 migrants, many of whom may otherwise travel to europe. for president at a one, there's another big reason to come to germany. some 1500000 turkey citizens live here, more than 2 thirds of them help reelect at one last may. and correct also connects with people in germany through an estimated 1000 marks located here. but run by the tech has states religious authority. but many politicians say that gives turkey too much influence, and it's time to pull the plug doubly to spend a dollar half the i believe that we cannot continue to allow to key to operate what's easy an effect. it's a political here in germany, funding and closet petition filling up now that there are close ties,
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but also deep divisions and the relationship between turkey and gemini, adeline's visit. we'll see olaf, schultz woke up political tight road between principles and dependencies and it will test both lead his willingness to de escalate the conflict in the middle east . spain's prime minister peter sanchez has secured another term in office handing months of political deadlock. he narrowly won support formative government after his socialist party sign to coalition deal with regional cadillac and parties who want independence from spain. supporters of right wing parties subject to the agreement, hundreds protested outside the socialist party headquarters. the police clashed with protesters in mid threads to petra sanchez, who was his way back into power, spain's prime minister or bus the food chain for a politician who was forced into pulling
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a mass collection just 6 months ago. i don't see the same thing with people. the other people that ask you to the 179 deputies who have committed that vote together and to represent nothing less than 12600000 citizens of odd nations. and here it shows on the 23rd of july to continue advancing, rather than regressing to all of us. thank you. what's his less is this gallery god to which has left us off to the ballots. in july, the conservative peoples policy headed by alba to noon s p o one the most seats, but not enough to form a government. says sanchez had another chance. he one of the regional policies with a deal that raised eyebrows and then go sanchez's search list wants to pull from top to land, paul, to you. so you've come paying for the northeast and region to break away from spain
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. in return, he promised an amnesty for hundreds of separatists to suppose to the legal efforts to gain independence from spain back in 2017. the conservative and follow write policies of backing the demonstrations that have continued for 2 weeks with demonstrations of branding, sanchez, a traitor, and the dictator. some protest to say they don't want to spain to break apart the. we're going to defend spain. we're going to defend its culture. we're going to defend its tradition, and they're going to defend the sacred unity of our people. sanchez's coalition includes people who want independence from spain and others with big ideological differences from his socialist. it's likely that the prime minister will face a tough to own keeping the blog together.
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you're watching dw news up next. it's to the point to our talk show, looking at how turkey support for how mosque is alienating some of its outlines. i'm terry martin for me and all of us here at the w, and there's, thanks for what the, the, the,
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to the point. strong opinions, clear position. international perspective. turkey is a long standing member of nato president is becoming an increasingly difficult partner. defending israel is fascist pricing. how much is fair to one, steve?
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but there's no actually about move join us as we travel around your, facing the history of every day of that. and that's something right around the wells, and i need to talk to you that just says subscriber id, listen to podcasts, and will take you along to the right. the turkey is a longstanding member of nato with the alliance, the 2nd largest army, but its president is becoming an increasingly difficult partner, defending israel, a specialist for his and come us as liberators. that posted diplomatic challenge for germany as chancellor, as he prepared to receive the turkish leader. under everyone's rule, turkey has flexed its muscles near and far seeking to project power from the caucasus to the mediterranean. according both russia and china. the president's autocratic policies at home and is abrasive.

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