it will say, oh, laugh schultz woke up political type broke between principles and dependencies, and it will test both. lead is willingness to deescalate the conflict in the middle east. you're watching dw, notice the next. we have a documentary for you serious ticking time bomb. it looks at a potential resurgence of the terrorist group islamic state in syria. i'm terry mark. thank you. one news. 3 is the most powerful woman, little sister of the dictate to mysterious strategic who is can you tell me? you can say she represents a mixture of expectations and this appointment the thing is do you think it's the ridge princess stuff, november 25th on d, w. a

best so best on glorifying that and violence. these are the children of isis members that growing up in a refugee camp in ridge of ne, in syria. this is a violent environment. if you leave the children back here, then you can say this will be the next generation of prices fight this. oh, whoa, is the largest of the camps in the region and it's considered the most dangerous in the world. and whole will turn into a ticking time bomb for further and future terrorist organizations in 2019 cody slid force has succeeded in taking back the region from isis rule. but the militant group remains of france. but keep that o. j headed vista for the i'll have the value, can we put an end to isis control? the 1st off uh to get the organization and idea. ology still exist here,

but the including in the prisons where isis terrorists have been held since the end of the fighting by the autonomous code is government. the can trolls northeast in syria, a gym and is it gives us a heads up. we have about 12000 isis prisoners. most of us economy can cope with that on its own. the codes who live here feel abandoned and they run the threat from the neighbors. the turkish president, re, to tell you, add one say to a terrorist. took he has launched repeat a defensive scene where java a mccurdy, still make it based in brussels together with google on a code it's journalist. i'm traveling to read java in northeast and syria. often many attempts we finally been given permission to visit some of the most dangerous places in the region. we want to find out what the legacy of

the fight against ices means. the origin of and it's people it's october 2021. we've just cross the border into syria. there's no mistaking how dangerous the situation here still is. a suicide bomb, it has blown up a truck loaded with explosives, very close by shoreline drive. the judges us to move on as quickly as possible. the fee is a 2nd attack shallow and used to be in the syrian army. during the civil war, he deserted and fled to the cookies regions. then he joined the melisha. he's an driver and 40 god and he's heavily armed

people to be a peaceful pro government so long as it's in control, but lead support isis of it came back, the office still peace, the town of committee sleep directly on the syrian focused border. this is the home of the autonomous administration of northern and eastern syria, as well as java is officially cold. not long after the start of the syrian civil war. the codes who lived in the oil rich ne, set up an autonomous region and declared self rule. but it's not especially recognized by the government of syria, or indeed any states the road. java is a thorn in the side of took as president ad one in particular. you have ahmed code

president of its executive council, explains why those are the 2 key. what's the quote, how do you the most it onto the, how well, since it's the foundation in 1923 to the turkish republic call has denied the very existence of us current of what that is. so the government is afraid that recognizing kurdish identity in turkey co, a good week, and turks as an ethnic group and divide the nation, most of them up to the community digikey past you are the best you to the, the best bond in this money. but here in rhode java, the native language kurdish is taught in many schools that are the key i need to stick you. bear with me. turkey does not accept that the holding the ticket with that it's why it's fighting against us. little because it appears that the kurds in turkey might then demand the same,

should even try to use the windshield same model. can you deal with edwin's main accusation? is that right? java and it's militias. a realize that the p k. k, the code is done work as policy p classifies the militant code, each group which is now based primarily in turkey as a terrorist organization. as do the a you and the us, i'm thinking good them at the age and the. so p k. k was active for enroll java for a long time, one, but in the 1980s the movement spread here. the kurds in syria were oppressed at the time and had no right 110 up and pick it in the serious goods. now rejecting association with the p k. k, you were shown then you do rouge on, but then get today the real java is forging its own. pansy, the economists administration and the p k. k. are not the same to pick and do have

the back of the, the codes here in re java have themselves loan being threatened by terrorism. and we instrumental in ending as tara, in the region. the, we're on our way to meet and there for us. um it come under the kurdish dominated military alliance, the syrian democratic forces the sds, before we left, we had to hand over on mobile phones. it's standard practice precautionary measures since took each combat drones began targeting code each come on this event o j head in the for the l a. w, can you put an end to i asked control of o chava ship, but the organization and its ideology still exists here, but it's still active. it's still carrying out terror attack dealership to 2000

boss, to not just against the armed forces, but also against a civilian miscarry. we want to visit the territory once claimed by isis before it was ousted by co despises. we traveled to rocca, the former unofficial capital of the islamic states. the evidence of the destructive fight against the g head is, he's everywhere. the rock on became the purest examples of this kind of fits ideology. isis have this public be heading. you know, these terrible pictures that reached us from america. they had a school system where they were looking at the children and the right ones. would they be trained to become leaders later on the not so smartphones would be trained

to become suicide bombers. and yet they used to account for their own propaganda, especially to the outside world for trading this as the paradise from the calling for muslims all over the world. the muslims, brothers and sisters, to join, to kind of fit to build something new. that was how lice has managed to a tens of thousands of foreign sizes will drive. it tells us that rocca is still on the safe and judges us to leave what's become of the terrorist melisha spices. after they were defeated, thousands of them were imprisoned in prisons like i'll see, you know, to our surprise, we granted permission to film inside the prison. the j. o is a breeding ground for isis. explains compound jamal. see also for the terrorist and he's on easy about that. i'll visit the security situation is to tense,

he says and we sent it to my hands are shaking as i hold the camera, the ruler of generations, these everywhere. and the sten. she's on bearable, jamal shows us around suddenly details we have to start filming a door opens and i see hundreds of isis prison is crowded together. many of them are injured. some are missing limbs. the space the held in is cramped. be on the lease by 2 and my camera back on as we into the in summary is just one straight to here. these are his prisoners, the doctors, they treat thousands of inmates in return. they have a little more space under. we're allowed to live together in this room and brought us the canvas of ship as we fed up these prisons under difficult conditions. we

weren't prepared for what happens after the victory, a guest. i s and the battle of a goose that we suddenly had to take in more than 5000 i as fighters fish has other sea and domain dice. and i guess 10 the ice is prison is cook, their own food jim owns is quietly not to get too close to them. tc is they most of the tank coasts with boiling cooking oil the we taken to the main wing of the prison, where the inmates exercise time in the yard is about to begin. come on, de jamal, allows us to go up to the watch tower to film. gould on, however, is told to stay out of sight. she's not wearing a headscarf, and jamal is worried. this will provoke the prisoners. most a foreign jihadists who came to syria via to key to join isis. how did you actually

midway to see something where you're just like your flight to truck? if there's someone waiting for your people to take you, and then you would take you over the board. so it was something very easy, even the, the gods that were welcoming you, dest, they're not stopping you didn't like what, when that was something which i think was politically and the benefits of turkey. most of these prisoners have been here or in other prisons in the region for years . no one knows what awaits them. amid the some assistance, the young man in particular continue to radicalize gene. they can know it, gosh, the kid can available as a new generation of isis as emerging here. as one of these people have been imprisoned for a long time, i ask if they call themselves as about a caliphate to the cubs of the caliphate. they were child soldiers between 13 and 18 years old. when they came here, i wasn't going to go into the older prisoners indoctrinate them. turn them into

committed. i spiders. they are extremely dangerous to have to do that. that's the case that i've had good. the prisoners do it as a reaction. i don't know which kind of reaction, but it's different from one to the other. maybe want long. he really, he really has a vengeance. maybe one us, the able to become more uh, more extremist. you know, maybe some people, they wouldn't get crazy, they will lose their minds in the prison. you know. so it would create many bad results. you understand as more of the extent our, the presence in the, as this presents. this will make more problems. as i said a month, our goal is to return the prisoners to their home countries. but as long as they are here, we have to make sure the presence are secure. the inmates often take tunnels to try and escape the columbus would that come on. that list is to enjoy them,

but them through the escapes are common. the limited piece so far we've always managed to support them. we always discover the tunnels in time while you're behind the bar, even though the most important task with your brothers, we will never forget how quick we own the literally to use our duty to enjoy the we have a king going to cover. we don't know how much longer we can secure the presence of what we have hired more guard, but that is not enough. we need a safer place and have a better monitoring system problem until their home countries take them back on top of your p in stage. yours,

the legal lien. both in brush of 2 parts. their own jihad is there, you know, and some states, especially my state, for example aust, i'm not willing to take the responsibility for the citizens and they hope that if they box them, they error, they will somehow they should be in line to the conditions here. some human rights organizations have referred to these prisons as a new guantanamo. do you think we shall fall will become the next one. tell them. oh no. go ahead and look at it and give a dusty and a no. yeah, absolutely not. so you can get to the study moving to g, g is the prisons were set up of fighting was ongoing. we set them up in former school buildings. homeless is going to keep that stuff with you and get it metal. or because we know that the spiders home countries don't want them back to me with this. that means these countries have to help us create an international tribunal.

so the end of the 3 are the pretty, or they have to pay the cost to hold the highest spiders. here wasn't a whole business. any you cycle which i gave up to tier 2, you have about 12000 isis prisoners here, has a real job as economy can't cope with that on its own equipment of going to look over here over here on the credit l, visit to the prison ends abruptly jamal thinks it's too quiet and something must be about to happen. it feels like the calm before the storm. we have to leave we want to learn more about the fight against our assessing race. java. what traces has it left to you? we had to cut bonnie needed to keep syrian border. it was he of advice, this was pushed back for the 1st time. the beginning of its down for in september 2014. the jihad has launched a massive attack on the city. but could each point is put up, see us resistance, the east met house on organized the defense of the city.

how about uh, set it does say, i mean that the, it is good, isis going through the taxes from 3 signs of what we wanted to push them into the city. it's narrow street. see that because that's where we have the best chance with the modest weapons we have the most do that to shut the we learn that people here are especially proud of the young women whose fault against isis in we're java y p j, the women's protection unit, so the female tickets within the y p g they had a very important role when it came to the bed of co, bonnie because these women are very dedicated. they know when of a, they are being captured, buys fighters, they would be violate and they would be, wait, they would be killed. so they have a very committed in this fight. we meet one of them. fuck my last and i'm in the battle. today she helped support others wounded in the funny thing. like many here,

she's still haunted by memories. a go and the good and the basically, they kept shouting. if we catch you, we will eat, you will cause know all the time they were calling us names or whether you like it or not. you cannot escape fear in battle. how did you become? and that is why you mustn't turn it into courage and faced it his head on. you're aware that the people who live here depend on you. if you give up and they will suffer for them and they will be hurt. that's why you have to fight. as i'm sure you will get the measure to do to for the should have received the why was always just able to become so powerful in the 1st place and what role did neighboring to keep playing. it's runs when prices attack the cards to take over to bonnie chucky was standing by not

helping the crowds because it was kind of interesting for years. chucky had let, is almost hide this from all over the world and jihad is tied to some level of using the talk you soon border to come to syria to join the send us groups there, even isis. so this is what the called the jihad is. highway in 2014, then you as far as presidential bind and commented our allies in the region where our largest problem in syria and the turks present early. one told me is an old friend said you are right. we let too many people through. i ran the isis campaign . $40000.00 foreign spiders jihad is from a $110.00 countries around the world. all came and a series of fight in that war. and they all came through turkey was in turkey, more than any other countries to have them sealed their border and they would not do it. they said they couldn't do it, but the minute the curse to parts of the borders totally sealed with a wall. in september 2014,

the us decided to provide military support for the could each fight against isis. at the middle of the was of vision. it was an alliance against terror on behalf of all humanity loma. that's what made it unique that no one ever would have expected the kurdish people's defense units and america to join forces. you get help loading the truck. i'm needing, i'm, i'm did not get here. i think we can see we defended the world. news caught the dogs, the prices have been successful here. how would you want to? i would have would have pushed in grave danger to the world and they've got to see them. that's why the world should support us. today there was nothing open to to read. it, get us for the in the quantity, the income bonnie alone more than 1000 the code. each point is what killed the

we drive through an area with the finding continue loan off to the initial victory . it took 4 years to defeat the tara militias. the international alliance played a crucial role. so the americans turn to the students democratic forces, and the s t f is made up mainly by what did you fight us but the rest, some of the minority groups? kristen groups militias, but included into the s t s, so they became the main ally of the wisdom on to ices alliance. you know, tell me a bit 2017. they succeeded in defeating i succeed, rucker. 6 after 4 years of brutal war, 2 patients under the so called isis kelvin rocker its capital is livery.

the americans announced they would train a force, so she's 1000 strong to god the syrian to teach buddha to prevent choices from returning. to college. president ad one reacted angrily and threatened military action should move services. a lot of america is building a terror army along our border because it's, we must destroyed before it's created. so the, the global markets were java now had to defend itself, not totally against joyce's, but also against the threatened invasion by texas. the toki showing me, boomed towns on the boat, including offering the attacks claimed some 1500 lights, and more than 100000 people were displaced. but the could,

each majority militias continued to find the march 2019. with the help of air strikes carried out by international coalition forces, by goose, the last ice of stronghold was captured. the general no rose general mosley commander of the syrian democratic forces. i'd like to offer a statement on behalf of the government of the united states. we congratulate the syrian people and particularly the syrian democratic forces on the destruction of isis is fraudulent calibrate the ration of isis is remaining territory and eastern syria. so he continued to threaten the tax on the road, java, and cold on the us. so me to withdrawal at the u. n. in new york, president ad one presented his plan for what he called a peace,

colorado in northern syria. an attempt to control an area that makes up a large part of his job a short in the 7. and he's gone into the says, the sort of, you know, we must eliminate the p k, k y, p g terrorist organization in syria, their territories cover a quarter of syrian territory. yet, these are ruled by a group that someone to d criminalize under the name syrian democratic forces up the well to the sex that we are proposing to create a peace, corporate or 30 kilometers wide and 480 kilometers long and resettle 2000000 syrians for turkey, there with the support of the international community is john in the fall of the idea of creating the secuity zone alongside the token see and border self a double goals. first of all, he wants to contain curtis autonomy. on the soon side of the board,

the 2nd goal is to reset the suit and refugees inside syria. because turkey has taken an almost 4000000 soon refugees, it's a huge burden on the society. the idea is if he controls fees for the area, so you can send some $1000000.00 students back to these areas. which would mean that you have some kind of an estimate cleansing that because these areas wouldn't have the to the kurdish population. tens of thousands of them had to flee from the tradition dimensions before. and now he wants to reset the main, the arab syrians to that area, which would definitely not help within the seo and society to reconcile until this together peacefully. you know, to about 2019 us troops made a surprise withdrawal from result of on then president trump sort is the move left to people in the region desperate joy to see those public. she

would she could jani what to. yeah. and with the new quote, suddenly they just left and the crowd of people said, well, could we kurds have been betrayed again. it should not have happened to your america had the power to assert itself against turkey. for the sake of all the victims that there could you $21000.00 soldiers of the syrian democratic forces and not one american soldier was injured during the normal. that's the state we were in . the traffic was a hold to immediately after the withdrawal of us troops, turkey launched its 30 invasion diverse java dumps operation piece spring by add one according to the un, more than 100000 people were displaced today, many of them still live in refugee camps inside their own country,

the worship connie camp is home to some 16000 internally displaced people because it takes the tactic. we were homeless, some flights here without children, savage in life. and that's on the very our children are growing up in a wilderness. how do we live like dogs here the, the music comp done to they had a mental health and there are 8 of these refugee camps in the regions. the u. n. hasn't yet supplied any aid to the caps. the syrian regime is blocking it. we have the un can only health through the syrian government, which prevents aid from reaching these refugee candles beyond the, on the cutting of a coffin, a tunnel,

these people are not even recognized as refugees. they're getting no help whatsoever. she wants us to, even though they have lost everything in the method, it is an atrocity. bought a keep good look. a good on the full extent of the problems ridge of it he's facing is becoming clear to us. but how exactly can the west contribute to greater security and stability in the region that can come easily? we have, let's do caring oma. that could have a video for 2nd class. first day is to back and have the deep week you're telling them is ministration of cold on the western alliance to establish an international tribunal. it should be here in northeastern syria who couldn't because ices terrace, committed their crimes against the people of this region. but unfortunately had, because everyone has abandoned us, we'd been left to deal with a problem alone. it's a ticking time bomb, a looming catastrophe. coma,

i've got enough money to pay that a time bomb. he says, that's also taking in the camps with the wives, children, widows, and orphans of ices, finances live in a hole, there a willows of 50000 of them, all of whom are unable to leave the, which deem it to go to you to see on what you meant to go to come by 40. it shouldn't be any worse. the whole camp is the most dangerous camp in the world of breeding ground for a new generation of terrorist issues, we have no control over the cam company is controlled by isis that control. i'm gonna take the control dash to we may tell, wait a whole we've been given permission to film. but when we arrive, the gods tell us it's too dangerous. before they can let us into the camp,

they have to find it difficult for us. and that will take a while. in the meantime, we were allowed to drive through the camp. in the con, the, in a matter of minutes, little boys gathered around the car, calling us names, swearing at us and throwing stones the, the, this is a brutal place to grow up its state and the violent ideology of isis. the code is god who does not want to be filmed, tells us that the young children in the can make just as a, as if they'll sleep this front. they shall have heard that she's an infidel, and that they will avenge the death of their parents. the children begin to challenge and on. yes,

bethel him facing that one day, they themselves will also become jihadists and sacrifice the lines for the profit, the we have to leave all holes and now we drive to camp roche, 3 hours away. we're allowed to film here and some residents have agreed to talk to us. the camp is divided into one is occupied by extreme missed women, some of whom have carried down to tax themselves. the other houses families who don't belong to wisest or have renowned states audiology. you haven't been a photo martin. i made a big mistake. it was wrong to come to see me on it so that i could pay no, i, betsy, our country should take us back in tucson so that we can start a new light along with the visas. we

did. she tells us that she took off jose alone, international women's day, women who take off, then you kept the threatened with being burned alive. we dad has full young children by to jihad his father's. this camp is no place for children. there is no education. this is a violent the environment and this is nothing for the children, no mex duties. so didn't if you leave the children back here, then you can say this would be the next generation of eyes the slightest. oh there and fucked him off anymore. and on hardly many children are smuggled out of the camp and given to isis in the 2 s. c. i thought the to the, you know, this is how they recruit child soldiers varner from doctors. it's hard, but i tried to protect my son from the radical extremist ideology and the cancer needs to scan it to look in this on the scene, this little video to hold we told that

these women are only a small minority among thousands of capture dias, women they see themselves as victims of vices and to no, i haven't been involved in the crimes against syrian tend to rocky women and children. women loyal to weiss, as on the other hand, often side children whose mothers have died simply to prevent them from being placed in the care of people. they see as infidels. we drive to one of the orphanages with children who could be taken out of the camp leave upon a or homes. they often don't even know the nationality of the children. we provide them with a good upbringing and education. we can do that to what we worry about their future . what will become of them?

the most of the news that will come there, all right here. thank god. and how much is 0? you take care of the children who was the valet chair dikes to hang on at the diesel. yeah, i loved them as their mother would. and more of that will. they shouldn't feel that they're not low manage them. i mean, we may count way back to our whole non difficulties wasting for us, and we were allowed to enter the camp with the camera. the whole is a known home to a large number of hon. cool. isis support is. it's reputed to be a haven for radicals and fanatics. this is the most dangerous part about truth. as a whole has turned into a city and it has turned into a small kind of it because it consists of 3 parts of all key celia and it's

a national part with the most radical isis members being the internationals. oh no, we are in sight. the whole come on, but what we're about to arrive at the model now this good fit hard takes us to the part of the camp where the foreign women and their children leave. these women have phone to hard line group national. we only want the law of god, sure, ria to apply by a judge all the children. here are the new soldiers of isis used to, to the did baby was found this morning on the internet every day. something like this happens here and we're able to put on the side of the baby was in a plastic bag in the trash. then many bad things happen here. the medication every

minute, it won't just woke up when mine was killed. that's all these threw her into the sewage system, and i need to many atrocities how come? but if the chance that option i'm not, i'm on, let's go to the market. so this account is not dangerous. no one. that's why i'm here. this is what the camps market. it is organized by the residents themselves. i'm try talking to them just only 110th. i know that they've been forbidden to talk to us. i didn't. yes, the it is very difficult to control to contain the living conditions are unbearable. it's very dangerous to leave foreign ices,

none but that can't. especially children because and whole will turn into a ticking time bomb for further and future terrorist organizations that quote, reading much from ed for a. i'm a fish motor. i'm not going to know how long did that did you see the figures and versions of the that in the us before and exploring. some of them are armed man, this last getting it and i've got it might suddenly come out to shoot and run away, but i did it. and this is what happens and i think you have it. isn't it too dangerous for us? yes, it's getting dangerous. the market is getting too crowded, is no longer safe here. hey, easy, that's the ha of the they some we not the, we know that the groups in a whole are well organized and are also receiving orders from outside. they have contact with the outside the and communicate by cell phone. they've had, well, what given it to me, i think were changed when they get orders to attack and kill people can telecom for

that it was going to show now how many children or did you see every day people are count there that where the foreign women live a new generation of terrorist is being raised or the credit that you know, what i have to do, we believe that they will be much more dangerous and isis that sound to you through what they can help you from an early age beeping, federal radical extremist ideas, it was a bedroom there released on a hunger for revenge, was fee to have had the kind of legal outside of the, the, the i'm, the children are being groomed to become new fighters to the people health and the camps and prisons are making long term plans and they don't hide that fact, they say we're coming back and will be even stronger enough with the music on the

video. she is the message that the islamic state will live on. it shows the flag of the calla site flying and the can the shopping in fortunately and all of this turkey is helping isis the most typical of it. awesome. yeah, yeah. the there are many illegal cells that help people escape from the camp. so the every day there are attempts to escape from the account when those who succeed lead to transfer you to print, but it would take a certificate of often there smuggled out with turkey's help the in response to a key says it only helps people who need to be rescued, leave i'll whole, it's domestic intelligence service only comes to the rescue of foreigners who want

to be returned to their home countries. our impression of i'll hold is that it's both a refugee and an internment camp. a threatening, it must be, was palpable in the camp. original of a field, highly folded child. the legacy of isis here in the region. in january 2020. so shortly after out truth, many people's worst fee is came true to i, a suicide bomb is blew themselves up outside the scene of prison videos from inside the prison circulated on social media. you definitely can see that this was a very veil, organized uprising. and it was an attempt actually to take over the seat. deed was not just an attempt to escape from prison. why in the suit,

in democratic forces fall off against these faces, uprising who has to come to continue to use their thrones against us here in democratic forces. so they even attacked coordinates for the driving for how to fight isis in the, in the could each military managed to regain control about that. we weren't only targeting the prison. they wanted to create chaos in a hole. in the hospital and rocco region, isis, referred to the 2nd, tell us that they wanted to retain control over the entire region. the 374 jihad has to reported to have been killed in the fighting, and many

a believe to of escape. the commodity demo, the god who showed us around the prison is one of the $77.00 prison stuff who executed the and then we hear that set up the caregiver from the often each was also killed in a turkish drone strike. to a case, regression is also increasing income easily we s selves experienced and attacked as we were leaving the office around return. on september 20 2022 president added one again addressed the un. and again he stated that there is no difference between the kurdish military and the terrorist p. k. k. l troop lyft is convinced that there is

a real danger of an oasis resurgence and root. java is being left to deal with this threat on its own. what if the codes can no longer keep points as under control? the repercussions will likely be felt in europe to the the, into the conflict zone. with tim sebastian sauce, you may need to talk to many of stuff as you possibly my guess this week is do we have to talk to the people of godliness today? and they have no idea conflict in 30 minutes on the w to the point. strong opinion,

clear position. international perspective. turkey is a long standing member of nato president is becoming an increasingly difficult partner. defending israel is fascist pricing. how much is fair to one, steve? that's a question on to the point to join us to the point in 19 minutes on dw the cars, he's got issues with a lot say well crazy. the

a business dw news live from bell in israel says it has discovered a tunnel shopped at. i'll see falls patrol in gaza. these really military says that fixes prove how mazda militants were using the minute co facility to come to operation, that the claim must have denied also coming on budget. so i've added one head to berlin. it's eric as president visits germany, while his criticism of israel and the war and gaza is staring the features the.