the, the business dw and news line from bell in israel says it has discovered a tunnel shaft. i'll see false pencil in gaza. these really military says that fixes prove how mazda militants were using the minute co facility to come onto the operation that the claim must have denied. also coming on red chip tab, add on hits to berlin attack as president visits germany, while his criticism of israel and the war and gaza is staring the features. the

guy both is welcome to the program. israel's military says its soldiers have discovered a tunnel shop dues by her mazda militants at all. she for hospital in northern gauze, is there any troops or at least a video of the tunnel after they took control of the hospital, as well as a tax, a controversial? since hospitals have special protections on the international schuman, it's area and law, unless they are being used for a military purpose, must have been, we've gone to the field, is this, on the sizes ro is the smoking gun, or the troops and mass has been using our chief a hospital for it, so probation officer a 2nd day of readings on garza's biggest medical facilities. 70 as well. defense forces said hi there and covered at the tunnel shelf in the vehicle containing a large number of wet minutes of 7. 3 october 7th, quotes alma to i, d. f forces found a tunnel shaft in chief,

a hospital because teams of engineers are currently i'm covering the infrastructure there. okay. and we also found a vehicle that had been prepared for the massacre on october 7th or 20. and we know we have solid. we found many weapons. and then today let's see. model be it comes off the footage was released. sharing caches of weapons is file size. we're headed around to the hospital. from us continues to deny the claims describing them as quote, repetition of a false narrative. since the conflict broke out, as well repeatedly claimed the mass was using, causing hospitals submitted treat purposes. and as the humanitarian situation in gaza, wesson's international condemnation has gotten louder and this route has been under increasing pressure to offer definitive proof of these claims. thoughts in a situation is 10, says this under daily reminders of the civilian suffering and gaza. it's not clear

that this new evidence liked to not vote. and to in a few moments we'll be talking to israel is a mass of the to germany, of on prussia here in the studio. thanks for joining us. but 1st, we're going to talk to the w across from the tanya cram, i see joins us now from the jerusalem to give us the very latest. a ton of these really i'm is reportedly still at the. i'll see if a host of a compound what's the latest from that? well, let me know at this point is the statement from thursday night, the way it is where the all me said that they are continuing their searches on the shift compound. they basically said they going to the bought building by building this is a very large compound. it scars as large as hospital as well. they also said that the troops are operating inside run t. c hospital and the eclipse hospital. also in a garza city. and they released last night a video,

a to video was basically showing what they say is a ton of soft inside the compound of the ship, a hospital as well as a vehicle loaded with weapons. now as one has said, 300 and the report that they actually searching for a come on send to and tunnel systems on the, the uh, ship a hospital. this is what has the patients in the hospital do you know that they exist? they're there. now this happens all the was a patients are still in the hospital medical stuff of course, and many internally displaced. people who were seeking shows in the hospitals thinking this is a protective space and we're hearing also from international organizations like the world has organization. they're very concerned about the situation with many hospitals in the north now are running out of being able to provide services of people who are still in the noise unable to go to hosted loads of injured people,

of course. and also that is again, a major black. oh no, garza since uh uh, a couple of hours now. um, the posting in telecommunications from paul to has said their communications are down internet and a phone lines mostly due to the lack of fuel to power up the generator. so this makes it old. so a very difficult situation for you. many turn organizations to have said to distribute necessary 8. uh, we also got the reports that israel uh has recovered the remains of 2 hostages, helped by how much will will, can you tell us about those? but absolutely this morning we had an announcement by then it's very military again that and 19 year old women, a soldier, women soldier, was found in a structured the remains of the same as those that instruct to adjacent to shift the hospital. she had been serving in the army on october 7 winds of terror visit

attacks of terror attacks happened in a keep boots near the gauze, a a border area. she was know her main to know, transferred to as well as where somebody can give her a proper a barrier. and on thursday night, and now the body or the remains while the rest sound of a female hosted over a woman in her sixties some keyboards, a busy she was kidnapped as well. on october 7, husband was killed and murdered a doing this a terror attack. and she was taken to gauze as she was also found according to the military and nearby cisco. now this would be very boring for many families of the hostages. they're demanding answers to actually right now, marching all the week down to, to was swimming to pick march, weather hoping to rise and on. so to introduce them to the department of justice office to demand answers from the government. what is happening, you know, with

a hostage talks and negotiations, that'd be a proponent, tony. i'd say i'm of the interest of them for us. thank you very much. then now i want to welcome and push all to the studio, israel's, and both of those to germany. thanks. so make a good time to join us here on the w and use there's a lot to discuss. and i'd like to begin with this car into current events in gauze, or do you anything, 1st of all, do you anything more about the remains of the hostages that have been found? no, but today i just one thing everyone who basically looks as, as soon as basic the c s, you know, something which is absolutely no. i'd like to come back to the current events in jobs are your prime minister. has said that is what it is now unable to minimize civilian casualties under choosing a mazda of preventing civilians from who is it moving to say for the cases that

does that mean that is well, we'll now give up on protecting civil absolutely, exactly the opposite as you see, we're working slowly and cautiously and we're going from room to room. how so house the boss and after the bachman just think who would basic the thing? cuz it in, in am i scanner the bossman. you'll find collection of gloves and grenades. i mean, this is not exactly a use of the equipment fully my eyes scanners. so i would say that yes, how much is abusing we're giving safe havens, how much is shooting after its own people? we're basically giving you no fuel a leaving it out before hoss because from us doesn't allow you monetary an aide comes in. you saw the, the footage from us doesn't allow its own population to take food and medicine and the want to out of those and cause to bring them in. you mentioned the safe havens,

the ever the idea of the chief of the general stuff today said that they are nearly finished in, in the north of gauze. that will direct the operations to all the areas piece of gauze. i would assume that means the south end area that you or israel has said to be a safe haven. are people in the south sites and will they stay safe? yeah, safe haven is a safe haven. yes, we will. we are now moving over to the south spot of guys. uh because we were basically completed the issue and the northern pontiff, gaza. a but the safe haven in contrast to home, us bases the beaches. everything that it says an ex and above barian way. i mean, there's no way for me to again, you know, basically say what they, what they did. and we, we really make sure that the population is and that goes down to those a safe havens is going to be safe. but still the best attacks and that will be

a tax on the south that will be bombardment on this, on the south. i mean, how can you still call that to say 5 wireless. they move out in places which we find a safe haven as they're going to be safe inside those same places with a mouse command, they have control centers and everything as i would suggest they move out of that. we asked by the way, you look at this, you know, if this is a was own, okay, we ask people to move out. we give them and say, hey, if you don't go out, this place is going to be a tech. we do everything according to the most that we can and all the full, you know, innocent people not to be heard, but we have to understand. we have it with not just a terrorist organization, but you know, they, they are various, there's no other way to describe it. and we have to deal with that in order to protect at the end of the day is with that is one will never be the same as before

. the 7 stuff with a will never go back to having a mass. so anyone else? so no borders convey that can basically have the opportunity to add some butcher's varies and we've come, we come to to that in the 2nd. i still want to stay on the subject of the, of south gaza. i mean, there's already at least a 1000000 people that in, in, in a very small area. and now to me it feels like that being squeezed further and further and further into places. and the sits humanitarian situation on the ground already is dia, the only thing i can say about that we are doing the best that we can a, i think we see more and more. and also on the international side that lead gyptian side with, you know, fuel costs, but those, we're allowing everything but the s u. c. s. we speak rockets, us in flying out a toys as

a from the south. those places where they have rockets and they have weapons and they have infrastructure, we would go after them, we wouldn't make sure because no one, no country can live with something like that. and the leadership and a must as infrastructure will be destroy. it would that has been another way after october 7th, to deal with almost and the answer to that is unfortunately, the know we tried you. you are now talking to someone who is the director general business phone service. when we disengaged companies the out of gaza. we took out 20 to assess themselves. we left the guys that completely we took on and i was also forced estimates in the west bank to show that this political rise and there's not one is value or one secular in gaza. and we gave people working permits because we thought the doing that would basically create some perspectives. the same ones

that went out to work in the cable team drew a max where the families with children is a dog. there's a door and a window. and they went the, some us came with a very, very good maps of where the kids have got. and so they themselves were part of this . we tried containment. we tried containment the same way. the people in europe had, you know, a bunch of the doors on the, you know, way, and this didn't work. containment doesn't work. why doesn't? what? because the ideology, we trivialize the all you on the day when they said we want to basically the strong is when we want to slow is we can't allowed use to live that we trivialize that. no, we will never do that again. and i hope also in europe and the west, people will not trivialize the ideology that now you see in many boston, new york is what is government has come on the attack. it is

a not only from outside israel, but also from the way then do you think the is there any response would have been differently? retaliation would have been different had is why the had a more or less leading government set here. thank you for the question. the answer and the answer is absolutely, you know, as well as, you know, we are discussing, this is a vibrant democracy and in the sense there's no one is left to right. how much didn't really make a difference a, you know, a, in this for the, how much it wasn't a difference if you're a conservative, do a secular to if you left or right. many that were butchered with basically dedicated their lives, making peace with palestinians. the as is absolutely no. and what i'm really proud of is that now when is when is really under to people come together is what is the twins and climb the i don't know lag in mountains in the file or out in the,

you know, him going india on come back to the units when we are united, there's no one we're unreasonable. let's talk about the international reaction and the, the support or the, the waning support. uh for, for each route at the moment. there's an opinion pull this months here and in german or the majority of germans, for example, that critical of israel's, a war and gaza as the international opposition that you are facing, even from your friends. does that bother? you know, because if after a mess it goes back in the 7th of october, a people in the world can also understand what is what has the right to defend itself. then while and having said that, the german government from the president to challenge the shots device, sense the to the phone minister defense and the vista from day one, the only side someone the some can be is on the side is what we see that support

very clear on in, in the german system and the yes, i think there's a gap between the government and parts of the population, but also see that there is and then the standing here in germany when you see what's happening here on the streets, you know, demonstrations in ascending, you know, saying where they were, they want a new kind of fine. and here in berlin, i think there's an understanding that if you don't deal with this ideology and these people today, you will unfortunately, the quite tomorrow. and turkey's president dress at the top ad one is in berlin. today he has called is route atara state and thomas freedom fighters. do you think germany is still writes to hosting? you know, i, i, i'm not going to give the advice to germany to host. i don't, i think that the german government is going to do the right thing. but it must be

all to stomach and, and, but you know, this is the germany. the thing is, what do you say to him? and i think that, you know, when you hear one talking, now he's the last one to preach us, you know, way and the way he hosts the, i'm a service and the, or i think that a turkey being an amazing, an impostor, strategic and country in the region, a one is on the wrong side of history. and unfortunately, and one should also clearly telling me now let's come back to uh, the future of, of gauze um, uh, over the next the hour said that israel will control the overall security of gauze after the war. does that mean that, that spit it forward? self governance of the palestinians in gaza. oh, i think it would be fair to say that and miss anyhow and knowing that this was

think that we should politically basically a control, gaza. but militarily, we should be able to go back and every time someone puts in a rocket or something, as we would be able to really control that. how do you do that? as hon. but we won't allow this military machinery, this tera state to be again with the weapons rockets. and this has to be structured differently. but then how are you going to do this without a constant military presence in gaza? a we a s use us you. so we a, we have a, we don't have it constantly that we present in the westbank and wisdom that able to do that. and i think we, everyone who really wants peace in this region. let's try and think about it. ok, this wasn't going to eventually we were coming in near to piece with

a saudi arabia. there's no coincidence that basically from us operate that who do we see working? we see the quote, this for me, i'm and proxies of us and we see she's belie up in the north basic. they conducted nearly war against us. we see some us, those who are really one piece to then to spend the only taking out from us and creating a region of cooperation. a in the region may be with a arab countries and like the salad, these like the m o. h psych, jordan and egypt we will be able to build the structure that's in essence will allow us to move to the next stage and just think logically we left guides. uh, what interested we haven't garza, so we left the gums and never to look back into guys. and they, if you know it's going to be quite in is what it's going to be quite them because it's a very simple equation that people should think about. and at the end of the day, are people who are really one piece, have to understand that some us cannot stay with it's at the infrastructure. and

now the, let's go back to distinguish between israel and the jews, especially here in germany. that's been a wave of an semitism on social media, on the streets uh everywhere. uh and also in here in germany, do you see a link between that current military operation and gaza and this rise in 72 long. just mean you would say that there's a link, but if you look back before the 7th of october, you saw, you know, the way synagogues the way, just think simple stuff, you know, synagogue, julie schools, the all protected. don't see, you know, churches are most being protected and there's a lot of anti semitic and it takes the actions taken place and it has no connection with the 7th of october. what is amazing for me that after the 7th of

october, it even, you know, rose up a but the fact that jews here in germany and not just in germany in, you know, in steve say going through the s about or talking and he will put thing a coupon, someone we really have to work together so that does not happen. and i think yes, you see more anti semitic a incidents taking place. but if you look back and there were many before the 7 of those, so i don't see that, right. thank you. sometimes is that the is really a basset of to germany. thank you very much for taking the time to talk to us today . there's a lot more to discuss, but we have to read that. thanks. thank you very much. thank you. have a nice we have a mention to the truck as president rides a top ad one begins a visit to germany on friday. that is heated to page about his strong criticisms of

israel adam on says he has broken all contacts with ease ready, prime minister benjamin netanyahu because of the, the way israel is prosecuting its war against homos. though ad ones used contrast sharply with those at the general government, political leaders in berlin stress the importance of maintaining a dialogue. few foreign leaders can be less welcoming germany right now than turkey's president red chip tie a bad one has described a mass as freedom fighters, and openly questioned is where it was right to exist. while western nations continue to stress is males, right? to defend itself in response to the october the 7th terror attacks carried out by how much had won the keys is the west of double standards using rhetoric. some say cross is a line. i'm really kind of the candidate, the is really a government with the unlimited suppose of the us and west and countries has been continuing its mass because for 40 days in a row that i say with

a clear heart that israel is a terrorist state, sky and been to the village at one accusers, the west of being weak in the face of civilian deaths and the gaza strip. and yet the lake wants to talk the thoughts. it's important to stop the conflict from spreading. and turkey, of course, plays a role in this. we need to talk to each other, but the question is, how clear uh, woods will be. the chancellor, olaf shows balancing gem and his national interest with criticism of ad one will be a test of his diplomatic skill. tuck is president, is under pressure at home about his country's economic problems. but on the indian national stage, one knows he's an important player, especially in the current crises. to key is a vital partner for germany in nato and the channel to most go on grading shipments out of ukraine. it can be a power broker in the middle east and is given refuge to move into 3000000 migrants,

many of whom may otherwise travel to europe. for president at a one, there's another big reason to come to germany. some 1500000 techie citizens live here, more than 2 thirds of them help re elected one last may. and corrupt also connects with people in germany through an estimated 1000 marks located here. but run by the tech is states religious authority. but many politicians say that gives turkey too much influence and it's time to pull the plug that with this $1.00 i have to, i believe that we cannot continue to allow to key to operate was easy in effect, a political here in germany. and in closet pull the edition filling up, now that there are close ties, but also deep divisions, and the relationship between turkey and germany edwin's visit. we'll see olaf, schultz woke up political tight road between principles and dependencies and it

will test both. lead is willingness to deescalate the conflict in the middle east. but if i'm on this, that's bringing into w as political correspondence on the sparrow, thomas the out of on cold, how most freedom fighters and says wisdom contest identity are assisting israel and carrying out massacres. yet adam on is about to arrive in germany later today. why didn't germany on the invite, the other one? this is undoubtedly one of john's electronics as most difficult visits. and that has to do with the fact that both lead us saw as an add on could not be more different when it comes to how they view events in the middle east. and that has all the st generated here in germany. a big debate with the calls that the way that should be canceled with calls that to tons of the shows to speak truth, speak very clearly to mr. add on. when he arrived here in berlin, the official reason that the german government, dave, is that it's important to talk to governments and talk to leaders that may be with

things very differently that may have very different goals. and that is particularly the case with turkey. turkey is not only relevant when it comes to finding the possible solution for the war in the middle east. it's also relevant nato pod on. there are many issues that definitely would want to discuss with that turkish counterpart. so this explains why this visit is particularly important, but also why this visit is so controversial. and now as you said, lots to talk about what, what i'll be about to witness the tom. how will jim and lead is handled this visit, or it will be a very difficult visit with german chancellor charles will have to balance. germany's strong words may be germany's criticism towards turkey with also common interest uncommon. bowls that they might have the govern government does not want this visit to end up being only about the differences, but also about which areas both of the does. both governments can actually work

together. it's, it goes beyond the conflict of the war in the middle east. there are many issues that both leaders have to discuss, and that is a very tricky line for the german government. any particular up with john slot shots. i think many in the country will be watching very carefully. what will happen later today? the meetings between ad on and the drummond president find 5 dash time i have with the german head of state, the meeting between ad on and tons, electrolysis the come and press statement that will be given. all these are elements that are going to be followed very closely. indeed, to see, to what extent the drum and chimes that have managed to walk that balance. to walk that tide wrote between explaining germany's interest on the one hand, but also making sure there are elements in which both countries kind of work together and now solace and to be able to pull it. sources also have to keep in mind a germany as a very large turkish community. and the other one does have a lot of support in that community about there's also

a position when can we expect on the streets of palate and today? absolutely, that's the case. that's also why this visit is also relevant, not only from the political side, but also from the let's say, social side from what people on the streets that they are also following this visit very carefully. and they will be protests here in violating of the pods as, as well. so this is something that will certainly be followed very closely. this is an indication that this visit is not only very relevant from a political perspective, but also very relevant to not only all the types of people living in the country, but to germany in general. that's a d w as a thomas, a sparrow, they're reporting from berlin. thank you very much. you'll what you do. the news. here's a reminder of our top story. is riley soldiers say they have discovered a tunnel soft used by how most militants at all she falls. but look,

gaza the video which could not be verified yet. image of the forces took control of them medical center, which has to be a focus on it. and that's, it's a from me and the news team. i have a world news updates where you've got an office in building from the entities. not too many. honda stadiums have to talk to many of stuff as these possibly was of us that this is pay down to the lincoln the cost of those is still alive with how much more of them my guess this week is too much un agency. so tom, over the 100 of that person now had been killed in the gaza. what we see in golf now right now is on 3 for the dentist on

a number of levels. so how long can the agency go.