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the, the business dw news live from balance as well says it has discovered a tumble shop at all. she saw hospital in gauze on these very limited services. the pictures proved from us militants were using the medical facility to combine celebrations. okay. and that's how mosse did not also coming off, where's upside add on pets? to berlin, to, to kitchen, president visits, germany was his criticism of israel and the war and gaza, staring up,
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seated the . i'm gonna hold off as welcome to the program. this is around the military says its soldiers have discovered a tunnel shaft used by a mazda militants at all. she falls, patrol the northern gauze on its way the troops released and on very 5 video of the tunnel entrance officer. they took control of the hospital as well as attacks are controversial. since hospitals have special protections under international humanitarian law, unless they are being used for a military purpose, must have been, we've gone to the field is this size. israel is the smoking gun with the troops of mass as being using our chief a hospital for its operations. and after a 2nd day of reins on gauze, his biggest medical facilities 70 as well,
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defense forces said hi there and covered at the tunnel shaft and the vehicle containing a large number of weapons of 7 uh, october 7th, quotes alma to you. id have forces found a tunnel shaft in chief, a hospital because teams of engineers are currently i'm covering the infrastructure there. okay. and i also found a vehicle that had been prepared for the mass, the current model, number 1720 lawyer. so that we found many weapons and then today let's see, model be it comes off the footage was released, sharing caches of weapons is file size. we're headed around to the hospital from us, continues to deny the claims describing them as quote, repetition of a false negative. since the conflict broke out, as well repeatedly claimed the mass was using guns and hospitals submitted to purposes. and as the humanitarian situation in gaza, wesson's international condemnation has gotten louder and this route has been on
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the increasing pressure to offer definitive proof of these claims. thoughts in a situation is 10, says this under daily reminders of the civilian suffering and gaza, it's not clear that this new evidence liked to not burden or well in a few moments we'll be hearing from israel's ambassador to germany, but 1st dw, corresponding to an ex family joins us from jerusalem to give us the latest kind of is there any i'm is reportedly still at that i'll see falls below compound. what's the latest? well, that is why the army released a statement on the 1st evening saying that they are conducting still targeted searches on the see saw a compound, it's the largest hospital. so they say it will, you know, it takes time. they release those videos. uh that you mentioned in the reports as of showing reportedly a tunnel shaft inside the composite and also a vehicle loaded with weapons that also said they're operating in 2 other hospitals
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. the run tc hospital and the eclipse hospital. um, but this is the latest update. we have, this is from testing i, the, it's known you opted as to what exactly is happening right now. the in the hospital, the only know the is a communication blackout as well in gaza right now. as the few we ran out for the generators to power up the communication system that's was confirmed by the public opinion, a tele company poto. and we also know from the humanitarian organizations they're very, very concerned about the situation. of course, in the north, in those hospitals, why these uh army operations are going on into hospitals, their patients, they're in a shift, all the medical stuff and also many and internally displaced people they were looking for shows to the thinking they are protected. and organizations like w h o, well, the world has organization is saying that many of the hospitals are running out of
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service. they can provide services, is that people cannot come to the hospitals. there's evelyn bergman going on a underground operation. so there's no really safe space at the moment of 4 of residents, neither in the north, but also in the selves. there are also reports from strikes on us, the southern area, where many people have residents from them. know a square told to go as a safe space, but it strikes to also reports it from this house of the cause and strip. now israel says it has been covered the remains of 2 hostages held by hamas. what more can you tell us whether they noticed this morning that they found the remains of a 19 year old soldier. uh she was uh, doing her service on october 7th, was taken hostage to our daughter. they found you in a structure as they say adjacent to ship a hospital, now transferred the remains to as well where the funeral will take place today as
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well as on thursday night uh, they found the remains of another hostage of women in her sixties on keyboard spear, the husband was killed on october 7th, she was taken to gaza and apparently killed in gaza. so this is a very boring sign for many of families and relatives. that actually is a big march underway through is well there. they say they're advising this much of a relatives and supporters of to hostages. 239 still held, and garza in jerusalem on such a day that night to demand answers from the government. why are they not progressing? there's a potential deal to feed the hostages and now we're hearing reports that is rarely forces of carried out overnight rates in the occupied west buying a do you have any more information on that brief? yeah,
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that has been uh many rates since october 7th. we seen this already in the past year, but that has intensified and one main focus is the northern westbank town of janine and the occupied westbank. that has been also a drone strike uh at least 3 militants or 3 people have been killed there. we're seeing more and more activity of the is really me and also according to you and also at least a $186.00 palestinians have been killed in since october 7 in the occupied westbank as well as for is rarely use that have been killed the 1st one to 10 exam of their reporting from jerusalem. thank you very much. i now i want to welcome and push all to the studio, israel's, and both of those to germany. thanks. so make a good time to join us here on the w and use. there's a lot to discuss and i'd like to begin with this car into current events and gaza.
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do you anything? first of all, do you anything more about the remains of the hostages that have been found? no, but today i just one thing. everyone who basically looks ss on this and the amazing challenges if we have so we have to go see and this full one to really dismentos come us infrastructure and it's leadership and the others to get the hostages back home to navigate. that is absolutely problematic because we can't really go after that unless we can go full steam ahead. we have to be very cautious. and as you see until now we any of the 5 weeks after the 7th of october, we sort of can't identify all the bodies just think of what, what, what they really pass. so those are the challenges that we're dealing with as we speak moving. and of course, you saw not just hospitalized, but the most schools that we're really using and abusing every thing is that you
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know, western civilizations, basic b, c, s, you know, something which is absolutely not a, i'd like to come back to the current events in jobs are your prime minister has said that is what it is now unable to minimize civilian casualties under choosing a mazda of preventing civilians from those that moving to say for the cases that does that mean that is well, will now give up on protecting civilians? absolutely, exactly. the opposite, as you see, we're working slowly and cautiously and we're going from room to room. how so how's the faucet after the pot? let's just think who would basic these things in in m, i scanner, the bossman, you'll find kalashnikov and grenades. i mean, this is not the exact the use of the equipment fully my eyes scanners. so i would say that yes,
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commerce is abusing. we're giving safe havens. how much does shooting after its own people? we're basically giving you no fuel a, leaving it out before hospice has come. us doesn't allow you monetary an aide comes in. you saw the, the footage from us doesn't allow its own population to take food and medicine and the want to out of those and cause to bring them in. you mentioned the safe havens, the ever the idea of chief of the general stuff today said that they are nearly finished in, in the north of gauze, i will direct the operations to all the areas of gauze. i would assume that means the south, an area that you or israel has said to be a safe haven. are people in the south sites, and will they stay safe, you know, safe haven to the safe haven? yes, we will. we're now moving over to the south thought of guys out because we were basically completed the issue in the northern parts of guys a, a,
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but the safe haven in contrast to home us the bases, the beaches, everything that it says an x and above barian way i mean, there's no way for me to again, you know, basically say what they, what they did a we, we really make sure that this population is and that goes down to those a safe havens is going to be safe. but still the best a tax and it will be a tax on the south that will be bombardment on this, on the south. i mean, how can you still call that as a face lift, they move out in places which we define a safe haven as they're going to be safe inside those a and they've places with some us commander of control centers and everything as i would suggest they move out of that, we asked by the way, you look at this, you know, if this is a was own, okay. we ask people to move out. we give them and say, hey,
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if you don't go out this place is going to be a tech. we do everything according to the most that we can and all the full, you know, innocent people not to be heard, but we have to understand. we have it with not just sit there. so we're going to zation. but you know, they, um they, um, bump variance, there's no other way to describe it. and we have to deal with that in order to protect at the end of the day is or that is one will never be the same as before. the 7 stuff with a will never go back to having some us. so anyone else on our borders convey that can basically have the opportunity to eh, eh, so butchers varies and we've come, we come to do that in the 2nd. i still want to stay on the subject of, of the, of south gaza. i mean there's already at least a 1000000 people that in, in, in a very small area. and now to me, it feels like that being squeezed further and further and further into place is
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interested to me to turn the situation on the ground already is, dia is the only thing i can say about that the we are doing the best if we can a, i think we see more and more and also on the international side and then lead gyptian side with, you know, fuel costs, but those, we're allowing everything but the s u. c. s. we speak rockets, us in flying out a toys as we're from the south. those places where they have rockets and they have weapons and they have infrastructure, we would go after them, we would make sure because no one, no country can live with something like that. and the leadership and a must as infrastructure, will be, destroy. a would that has been another way after october 7th, to deal with home us. and the answer to that is unfortunately, the know we tried you,
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you are now talking to someone who is the director general. if this was phone service, when we disengaged companies, the house of gaza, we took out 20 to assess themselves. we left the guys that completely we took on with also forced estimates in the west bank to show that this political horizon. there's not one is valley or one secular in gaza and we gave people working permits because we thought the doing that would basically create some perspectives, the same ones that went down to work in the keyboard, same jewel max, where the families with children is a dog there's a door and a window and they went the, some us came with a very, very good maps of where the kindergarten and so they themselves were part of this. we tried containment. we tried containment the same way. the people in europe had, you know, a bunch of the doors on the, you know, way, and this didn't work. containment doesn't work. why doesn't? what?
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because the ideology, we trivialize the on the, on the day when they said we want to basically the strong is when we want to slow is we can't allowed use to live that we trivialize that. no, we would never do that again. and i hope also in europe and the west, people will not trivialize the ideology that now you see in many boston, new york is what is government has come on the attack. it is a not only from outside israel, but also from the way then be a think the is there any response would have been differently? we tell the ation would have been different had is well, had a more or less leading government side here. thank you for the question. the answer, the answer is absolutely. now as well as you know, we are discussing this is a vibrant democracy and in the sense there's no one is left to right. how
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must and really make a difference a, you know, a, in this for the, how much it wasn't a difference if you're a conservative, do a secular to if you left or right. many that were butchered with basically dedicated their lives. so making peace with palestinians. the as is absolutely no. and what i'm really proud of is that now when is, when is really under attack? people come together? is there any, is the twins and climb the, i don't know, way in mountains, in the file or out in the, you know, in going india on come back to the units when we are united. there's no one we're unreasonable. let's talk about the international reaction and the, the support or the, the waning support. uh for, for each route at the moment. there's an opinion pull this months here and in germany that the majority of germans, for example, that critical of israel's, a war and gaza as the international position that you are facing, even from your friends. does that bother you?
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now, because if after in mexico, like in the 7th of october, a people in the world can also understand what it is, what it has the right to defend it. since then. wow. and having said that, the german government from the president to challenge the shots device on the hub to the phone, minnesota defense, minnesota from they want the only side someone decent can be, is on the side of it. as we see the support very clear on in, in the german system and the yes, i think there's a gap between the government and fonts of the population, but also see that there is an understanding here in germany when you see what's happening here on the streets you know, demonstrations and assuming, you know, saying where they, where they want a new kind of fine. and here in berlin, i think there's an understanding that if you don't deal with this ideology and
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these people today, you will unfortunately be quite tomorrow and talk. he's president, drugs at the top ad one is in berlin. today he has called is route atara state, and thomas freedom fighters. v as in germany is still writes to hosting. you know, i, i, i'm not going to give the advice to germany to host. i don't, i think that the german government is going to do the right thing, but it must be all to stomach and, and, but you know, this is the germany. the thing is, what do you say to him? and i think that, you know, when you hear one talking, now he's the last one to preach us, you know, and, and the way he hosts the summer service and the i think that a turkey being amazing and enforced a strategic and country in the region. a one is on the wrong side of history and unfortunately, and one should also clearly kind of uh now let's come back to
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uh, the future of, of gauze um, uh, over the nets, the hours said that israel will control the overall security of gauze after the war does that mean that, that spit it full of self governance of the palestinians in gaza? oh, i think it would be fair to say that and miss anyhow, and no one is, was think that we should politically, basically a control does. but militarily, we should be able to go back and every time someone puts in a rocket or something, as we would be able to really control that. how do you do that? as hon. but we won't allow this military machine to read this tera state to be again with the weapons rockets. and this has to be structured differently.
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but then how are you going to do this without a constant military presence in gaza? a we a s use us, you, so we a, we have a, we don't have it concerts, military presence in the westbank and wisdom and able to do that. and i think we, everyone who really wants peace in this region. let's try and think about it. ok, this wasn't going to eventually we were coming in near to piece with the saudi arabia. there's no coincidence that basically from us operate that who do we see working? we see the quote, this for me, i'm and proxies of us and we see feasible out up in the north basic they conducted nearly war against us. we see some us, those who are really one piece to then to spend the only taking out from us and creating a region of cooperation. a in the region may be with a arab countries and like the salad, these like the m o. h psych, jordan and egypt we will be able to build the structure that's in essence will
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allow us to move to the next stage and just think logically we left guides. uh, what interested we haven't garza so we left gums and never to look back into guys. and they, if you know it's going to be quite in is what it's going to be quite them cause it's a very simple equation that people should think about. and at the end of the day, are people who are really one piece. have to understand the come us cannot stay with it's at the emphasis right now the let's go back to distinguish between israel and the jews, especially here in germany. that's been a wave of an semitism on social media, on the streets uh everywhere. uh. and also in here in germany, do you see a link between that current military operation and gaza and this wise in 72 long. just mean you would say that there's a link,
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but if you look back before the 7th of october, you so you know, the way synagogues the way, just think simple stuff. you know, synagogue, julie schools, the all protected. don't see, you know, church as a must mean protected and there's a lot of anti semitic and it takes the actions taken place and it has no connection with the 7th of october. what is amazing for me that after the 7th of october, it even, you know, rose up a but the fact that jews here in germany and not just in germany in, you know, in steve say going through the s about or talking and he will put thing a coupon, someone we really have to work together so that does not happen. and i think yes, you see more anti semitic a incidents taking place. but if you look back and there were many before the same
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of those, so i don't see you direct link. sometimes see is rarely and pass it up to germany. thank you very much for taking the time to talk to us today. there's a lot more to discuss, but we have to leave with that. thanks. thank you very much. thanks for having and that's, i've looked on some of the other stories and the news today, police in the park is donny city of karachi, has arrested 50 after on citizens the us, the government practice. down on undocumented migration, dozens of offices have gone door to door to check out the entity papers throughout the city. any 300000 f guns have left boxed on in recent weeks to avoid this crack down. about carrying around 250 range of refugees has been turned away from indonesia has all shape problems. locals provided for supplies. they could before forcing the boat back to see almost 400 or a 100 refugees of land in the same region in the past. week, the complication of the refugees is on the surface president's
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visit. the top ad wong is said to visit germany with some questioning whether he should be coming at old ad. one says he has broken all contacts with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, because of the way is where it is conducting its war against a months. ad one's views contrast with those of the german government. political leaders in berlin say it's important to maintain an open dialogue with your or that would be also a political correspondence. i'm a sparrow about the expectations surrounding ad one's visit to germany today. this is undoubtedly one of john's electronics, his most difficult visits, and that has to do with the fact that both lead us saw as an add on could not be more different when it comes to how they view events in the middle east. and that has obviously generated here in germany, a big debate with the calls that the way that should be canceled with calls that to
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tons of their so to speak, should speak very clearly to mr. add to on when he arrived here in berlin. the official reason that the german government, dave, is that it's important to talk to governments and talk to leaders that may be with things very differently that may have very different goals. and that is particularly the case with turkey. turkey is not only relevant when it comes to finding the possible solution for the war in the middle east. it's also relevant nato pod and there are many issues that definitely would want to discuss with that turkish counterpart. so this explains why this visit is particularly important, but also why this visit is so controversial. and now as you said, lots to talk about what, what i'll be about to witness the tom. how will jam and lead is handled this visit, or it will be a very difficult visit with german chancellor charles will have to balance. germany's strong words may be germany's criticism towards turkey with also common
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interest uncommon. bowls that they might have the govern government does not want this visit to end up being only about the differences, but also about which areas both lead us. both governments can actually work together it's, it goes beyond the conflict of the war in the middle east. there are many issues that both leaders have to discuss, and that is a very tricky line for the german government. any particular up with john slot shots. i think many in the country will be watching very carefully. what will happen later today? the meetings between ad on and the drummond president find 5 dash time i have with the german head of state, the meeting between ad on and tons, electrolysis the comment press statement that will be given. all these are elements that are going to be followed very closely. indeed, to see, to what extent the drum and chimes that have managed to walk that balance. to walk that tide wrote between explaining germany's interest on the one hand,
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but also making sure there are elements in which both countries can work together and now solace and to be able to pull it. sources also have to keep in mind germany as a very large turkish community and add one does have a lot of support in that community about there's also a position when can we expect on the streets of bell in today? absolutely, that's the case. that's also why this visit is also relevant, not only from the political side, but also from the, let's say, social side from what people on the streets that they are also following this visit very carefully. and there will be protests here in the lady. no. the pots has as well, so this is something that will certainly be followed very closely. this is an indication that this visit is not only very relevant from a political perspective, but also very relevant to not only all the types of people living in the country, but to germany in general. that's a d, w as a thomas, a sparrow, they're reporting from berlin. thank you very much.
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we're going to present now, which is grappling with a dangerous heat wave, the 8th to hit the country this year. and other countries, saucy, extreme weather comes in the form of severe floods which of already killed thousands of people and was 5 is also threatening the region. this is the well launches, tropical what twins bridge wild fires the sweeping across the brazilian pond to now by a burning water f, as in the way tossing a file to them. but i thought it was behind temperatures. those are the most shortage of rain in the animals we're already dying because of that. out. some of the now the fire comes up and kills everything that had survived the climate change made with regard to the mazda or top 6 smoke from fires. these choking mon,
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those a city in the middle of the m as in rain forest, was this, is that the part of the it is a real issue. because a large number of people are unable to leave their homes site to do things and activities due to the large amount of smoking that we have to day once again. here in our city. it still only late spring in brazil, but the heat is stifling, particularly for those who come to escape. it is very bad, very bad, very hot, unbearable heat. there's never been a heat wave as strong as the one we're having right now. and brazilian, it's not just heat big stream. what has also brought heavy rain full on floods to the south temperatures across south america are affected by el nino, a naturally occurring climates event,
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that loans the oceans via the impact has been particularly dramatic. with scientists warning human caused climate change is also to blame. and that's it from me and the hosting for now i have an update for you at the top of the hour. of course, god was in berlin for me and the teen principle. the turkey is a longstanding member of nato with the alliance, the 2nd largest army, but its president is becoming an increasingly difficult partner, defending israel, a specialist for his and come us as liberators. that posted diplomatic challenge for germany as chancellor, as he prepared to receive the turkish leader under everyone's rule, turkey has flexed its muscles near and far seeking to project power.
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