that's wrong because it may not wish body distinct very to most is you tell the truth in that regard. almost ability to here to the set to go to israel is getting like that. and she do financial support to this. but we never hear that. israel tenants and if they didn't miss, you get a can the sick negative it is passing on, but the support that palestine should be receiving. when you bought this on it out, there's money donated if you're not getting to the loan number of it we are seeing was done in the houses of worship, being bomb and 2 churches being from to the hospital was being cause was the most it even though would you go to the see the bombing of the hospitals and the killing of children cell does not exist in the your home is not allowed in the total, the noise it allowed in the universal declaration of human rights plus the beloved

most. and yet these children are being killed. these images called them, they're in being killed in hospitals will cause she's busy and are we let me as you're going to remain silent here in the face of this a, we not going to raise voices against this is alex, we do not raise a voice is against us, if we do nothing, how will we pay the price? when we look back at history, ocean is deadline, didn't make good looking better, go through and the psychology of guilt is not the right. i'm going to show approach to this a little, but we are not guilty towards israel. if that's where the case perhaps we wouldn't be able to speak as clearly as we can either and then judgment a legitimate. but can you send us how you do it?

is also the case that we have not gone through the experience, but some of the holocaust speaks of on to say me, it is important. it's the policy respects you know, they did a bunch of them. and when i was on court for a minister, i was very clear when they were cases of anti semitism. at that time, i spoke out clearly against anti semitism. we therefore have no skills towards anyone load of a vehicle. i'm sure just a moment to move on and you know, you got now get again on vacation and visit the visit. we will naturally be discussing these things. but there's another important point that we have to talk about as well. just to name lee, how can we solve this problem to, to, to and know that according to mana terry in the pause and fighting and how come turkey, oh, can germany contribute to achieving the sooner?

how can we take these steps together? the, well, you'd have to sort of and the question of whether we're prepared to do this or not really didn't seem to be the phone to jim addresses in front of me. i gotta sign my eyes there and he goes to israel, i've said, and i'm no longer he's done, you know, listen to both sides like this. all, you know, there's both listen to each other as well. and the cheese assume monetary and you to really break and fighting only and before you can achieve this. so the amount of hair in pieces i as well as tempting vendors gemini, without making john nicholas. and if we can achieve the we have what else is able to liberate this area from little this constant crossfire vein it, it is the cotton ve noticed. so you see, actually we have also prepare to help,

excuse me, when it comes to liberating the hostages. but what about almost a number of hostages, read it in the palestinian hostages, and is round about the what about the number of the hostages? so it didn't, it didn't get any notes. so when we use the word hostages, we have to be aware of that. and there's many more times the number of palestinian hostages in this room. they are in prison, in israel at the moment. and we have to see this as well. because if we don't, that is simply not fair. we are willing to help come where we can put it on the children small day of what we do said just as a or to the black sea. we negotiated a few to achieve a quarter for grand to pass from the ukraine. the same is true other than as we try to help you and get to africa's the same as champ, vague in this case,

and are green card or from the black sea to, for, to dig a. yeah, let it, i would say 50 percent or 40 percent of the strong the came to europe because 40 percent of the africa and the rest went elsewhere. and at the moment, from africa, there are requests, once again, that is a and restaurant cut out of it has a great deal of noodles of grain that is going to be send it again because there are many problems. most of it side. i think these zimbabwe is always one of the areas green is being sent, such as in bob way or do but wash understood what it has to be ground into flower. and it is the facilities that they need for that are not present at the moment. and i have offered turn key the suit, ryan's, the green into flower ones. there's grain to the factories and then

pass it on the get to this country or to the interest as well. these are the steps that we need to take it and we will do so. the 4 or 5 different going to seventies unit sold goods, the restaurant. the other one is that is prepared. signing to send grain to these countries and not interested in the 2nd step was the i, the processing of the green. and this is your flower cuts out. and as we can move them up, we just assumed that the russia has taken the necessary steps here. all the way to do this up to most agents is that need to ensure that all of these steps lane can be taken. and really these other than a total of sending, you know, needs to be multiple steps between turkey and jeremiah, colorado and german, allied on how many good for me and they so i like germany,

sir. yep. on those, those naturally some of these to take the resolution to make the program, is it civic and then parts and was it if to the day talking about the sports, the fish really certain items good to told us and the ability to approve of the because we want to work even more closely together with germany within this lashawn online. you know, they get to talk to them and you put it in the show. most it and this is at 3500000 people make up attempts to nancy it in germany, the important. all right. so we need more to serve different interest needs of this community. all my i leave the go together, the model. good training to the people in the night we will be talking about is integration of the image in the to jr. working group for

building it really extruded is to stablish to discuss the question of migration to the question. because all of those are me use like a session to move in the future and a point in things that we want to talk about as well. i'm not sure, and we very much hope this is accessible as best we'll continue to them as the positives and will be modernized, but also the matcher of visa and liberalization. and then we'll the, we have certain expectations and the guy as well. one of the engines driving the use in germany, germany support, and this question is very important. and for 2562 years robin does this service is it solve them? and we have been trying to have done the settlements in have close the times that are to europe and the most we would like to see and he's a liberalization, you're going to miss. but it accelerated as far as us goes and we will try to

discuss the issue as well. by presenting the press fidelity, just what is going on in gaza will naturally what should be something we will be debating on cells. and particularly in tennessee, as touchy right from the very beginning. we have been against 10 attacks on disability and we'll continue to be against this and have raised the question wherever we can use on e. as in the 1st guy, what you need to be a ceasefire, solum tronic of that. and we need to ensure that the age can reach all of those who are in need of it. with smith. we have sent the tons of a 1st to egypt. gimme it all, and then all the more recently we have sent 666 tons of

a design ship, the commodity food, etc. then that'd be good. and, and then all of the medical support as well. do most of the seem to and so you, but this is the problem is that we will not stop the blood. show the pucca to the almost is it a 2011 patient already spent with 2 serials of cancer have been relocated, tended to assign to turkey from boswell. i visited them yesterday in the hospital for the so menus and all 5 of them the, the, they were doing go to lose. and very much of that we can little that you can always leave the patients cancer patients. but also what i'm just done already included up and to submit to them back to the health. it usually takes care of the barn and turkey catching most naturally a to is the, is that up to date and solution based on the borders of 1960,

the easiest thing that we know, you know, buddies in there is that we believe that gu, any not to move us turkey, we would like to create an atmosphere in which is the way it is and power steering, and so the lives of side by side, the cure toward one another. we must make this up and it is such an alternate court mostly get a unit if you knew of them with a singular, naturally, and no a great deal. and so you create a conducive environment as far as the easy to do. let me conclude by thank you once again for your hospitality and thank you for the time to know that this incident is understood as important as it is for the region i'm for all of us. thank you very much. in years, this is great. i prefer i'm saying best,

but control talk to the presidents and german chancellor. so i have a question just john's vigilance took care of the day is obviously if the presentation please say something that is the time is the i see on how so that and now is your place and cannot be in different places. the situation in gaza and has that also right. you took the patients and taking them to a turkey. i'm kinda let's, as a broker, did you see a to put a liberty june the friday to be to, could you tell us how much we have her to get that turkey would like to try to broker a peace solution picking and take advantage of ration of people from home, this region is something they support not only germinate utah and the e mail and the load. my question is, what do you want to do and make a new smoke when it comes to the evacuation of patients? and it's an ill people, if they can come up with some kind of joint mechanism to try and rescue some of these people. what does germany say to that? israel is killing

a child every 10 minutes and the gas and this item is on the outrage for she managed the dog along with a good a. so and do you believe that israel needs to be taken to court before the international tribunal for human rights director and back? what's of america for my those i don't of all let me just mark has a couple of statements here. as i have already said, my introductory statement, israel has the right to defend itself. it was a brutal, atrocious attack that thomas thomas, i'm the nation on children is on to women and work on both people. and cuz it's some of them do you really shit on this upcoming, and we saw that they were young people celebrating this kid in gaza. and is there a kind of risk for the midst of being shot at israel from casa? and this is what israel's right to the full sense entails, either at the same time,

every opportunity must be used to engage with the number of civilian casualties. and to ensure that this is considered with every status outcomes, which just has to be on time for us. it's very important that we push for what is necessary here in this room guides or humanitarian aid that we want to reach gaza. and we began with this very early on funding. we ensured that this can be successful and we continue to pursue this and does no scale. germany is a country that is money to live in the forefront when it's about providing this humanitarian a not just now before that as well because of civilian population in regards to these a hostage of how minus and to my susie using the indian population there as function human sheila from us and we are pushing 4 on the school with the 6 people to be able to be treated within the region. and we are happy to support this

to a large extent stuff. and it is the case that we definitely want to push for those to have another dozen and of the citizenship. is he able to leave gaza as well? and we are trying to ensure that everything is done, that the cost of the taken by how must be released without any conditions. and we are speaking with the turkish government on this front, as well as with other governments with the catalog government exemption presents you might and many others as well as most because that has to be a common expression of influence to try to ensure that these hostages are released by how much and to make this possible. we agreed and the european council that we want that to be humanitarian causes in fighting so that hostages can be released so that foreign nationals can leave gaza. so that you, ma'am terry and age cannot reach those indeed and gaza, but this doesn't change. the fact is, is that there is

a need for reference to my israel to have to be able to defend itself. and for this not to be questioned, a few and ducking, besides or so ago. thank you mr. shed the ones you have them present. and one left in recent weeks, or in the weeks after the thomas's attack on israel. and you have results from cost, a certain amount of outrage which some of your comments, not just here in germany, but among some of your nato partners. i would like to ask, once again, how you meant these statements. for example, i'd like to know whether or not you are committed to lose rails the right to exist, which is the reason the state and germany. and i'd like to know what you mean when you accuse israel of fascism and you know,

when you called the is really military operation against mass genocide. how do you justify that? and how do you justify calling? how much and liberation organization which is murdered? hundreds of people in israel and which is considered a terrorist organization by all of us talk nato partners. and chancellor, what you have described, some of mr. edwin's comments with reference to israel as being observed are they merely observed or do they threaten german turkey relations and or to turkeys road in nato. and what does this mean when it comes to the exports of ornaments? we just heard that the took as president, doesn't want to have any limitations on this or like sports or turkey would like to let them have 40 euro fighters and is germany going to approve that under these conditions and it is that not alone,

then they get a new kid and then you have time to sit. well, 1st of all, share this. let me say, you know, that one of the most important nato partners, you know, please turn when the top 5 and you can't just have to, um, you know, we're not just any old country in nato. we are just, you can monitor the top 5 important new ones and whatever your views happen today is the country and they tow, that doesn't matter to us between russia and ukraine and there to fuel that is a great night that the good shooter is on the side of your brain and everyone, you know, but we as turkey speak with you crank and we speak to russia and to, and we do not your fault differentiate between these countries, but it is 313000000 times a gram. go through them through

a green card to the unit, went to europe. when to miss you asked because because of on the go, she, agents, that was the country, you go to them, you being known as j. c. and in the files themselves are listed in the the, the was how did it in town by is around at the hospital. and by the time the wiped out affiliated room were the business model. mosques, number of churches were bomb. i'm just gonna stay on a letter. as the most of them, i am probably the most in the christian. don't you have a problem with a fighter searches a bit of phone book notions? and why should i never say models into this? is imagine there should be original, although this did this will save it and this young connection is not in the region when we're talking about lots to get it to jewish

christian muslim people who do not bid is john. this is a, would you locked it, is a prostate seek that and there should we shouldn't differentiate. i've always lean against an ad online. yeah. because the people that i'm going to submit to the district, the, the number to the that you all the support that germany is giving or you're talking about you or if i test whether or not so germany approves the export transaction or not. there are plenty of companies and you'll put involved in fight to just wrong that you're making cycle debt so we can get them from other countries as well to do it. then they get into that because then millions, thrones, drones, for example. i mean, turkey is actually the very ahead of the game when it comes to drugs like trying to sort of load the ocean you. so you should ask

a question. this is the human or send that show you have a conscience so that we can actually answer questions not questions like that. finish public equal does pricing just love this $1.00 actually because i've talked about i would like to emphasize whatever the height of a frontier is launching the presses conference. i pre press conference between the i took a, she doesn't read it time one who's here in the book and then just read him on that . german chancellor hold off a show. so that holding this press conference ahead of the meeting, a translation, a jury not was by catherine jones at hand with me. and the student is dw, i political correspondent assignment young. quite a lot to get 2 assignments, 6 minutes from shulte. so i made it 14 minutes from the one what stood out for you as well. i think that they both, both leaders went down the list of possible talking points that we outlined

a bit earlier. you know, in particular the middle east, israel, gaza. they both acknowledge of that is going to be at the of the central focus, but they also touchstone these all the things like migration and alms dale was and they took membership to sweeten and so on and so on. i, i still what's interesting from a child flash shells was that he still wants it all, but he's saying, you know, thanking a resident at juan for the constructive role and important role that he said he's personal commitment to helping in the ukraine rusher conflict. he didn't talk about the middle east until either point 3 of his lease, but when he did, he, he did also, it's focusing in particular. i think i'm sending a message to the most names, both people in turkey, but also people here in germany. he talked to at he to not just about the suffering

of his riley's as has been much focused on a race of ways. but he's also said, you know, the suffering of cause and civilians is also upsetting. and he wanted to emphasize that and that, that must be a place for most lives in gym. and he said, speaking out against islamic phobia, so i think those are the kind of remarks, evidently the president at one standing next to him. can you agree with them when it comes to president ad one himself, he for his part didn't really expressing outrage about the 7th of october attacks by him as he went straight and talking about that you know, the suffering of people in gaza that he said, but i think his tone was largely conciliatory. he what he was really focusing on was saying we must have a humanitarian pause in the fighting and get a 3 to a civilian stay. that's the main part a number of times and yeah, he did. he kept saying it and he wants jim and he's help indeed to, you know,

get some international focus on that or more international focus. but what he didn't do was repeat the sort of inflammatory remarks and say, anything like, know how message freedom fighters, or as well as a terrace state, even though he was asked about those in inflammatory remarks. although i didn't get you to about the config, actually nature of, of, of, of these remarks tonight, the tests, criticism of germany, when he talks about when a president of the one said we are not guilty of acting against israel. maybe if we had been, we'd also have difficulty speaking directly. but of course at and t then immediately went on to say that we know we, we have not gone through a holocaust as the uh, the jewish people data. and of course had the holocaust is one of the key is a context of the conflict between the israel and the palestinians and the, and the, the situation in the middle east. more widely. so uh now are you thinking he was

considered feasible about how as minnesota uh, some years ago now he, he spoke out against anti semitism at in his country. and he sort of was saying, you know, i want to broke a together with germany. other countries. i went to broke uh a deal. uh because i see myself as a, you know, as a voice that can sort of talk to them both sides. is it? this is talking to the both sides as he did in the russia, ukraine situation at which he says both about the grand deal, but as port to food to, to many people, particularly in africa. ok, i'm and so thank you for that to find an assignment, young dw, i political correspondence. let's get more of this basic off the tucker's president with the german chancellor from usually a hon. who a standing by for us in a stand both listening in to that welcome us. so i'm stand out points for you. i

was listening to the tacos president that i think he has been by his standards rather restrained and his criticism of israel. i agree with what simon said. he came across as conciliatory, very different from what we've heard from him, and seen from him here in talking in recent weeks. just a few days ago he called israel and i quote him a terrorist state that is convincing real crimes with food backing from the west. he has repeatedly praise to moss as liberation fights as knowing that most of his western allies, including jim and e, classify them as a terrorist organization. nothing like that. today no verbal attacks, even though he was specifically being asked about his criticism by a german journalist. um, what does this tell me? i think he might have had some good reasons to,

to tone down today. and i think he is a balancing between different audiences here the flooring audience in germany and the domestic one. because at home here in hockey, he needs to appease his as long conservative political face, which has strong pro palestinian sympathy sympathies. um, i'm not saying and i don't think that most of the tax here in the country agree with his pro him, us stands and public anger. here in turkey has been a growing amid the rising death toll among palestinian civilians. uh, president, adeline, is very well aware of that, and he's been using that for political purposes, for example, for distracting from other pressing issues. here in turkey, the broken economy, for example, but a very different ad, one with a very different, a rather soft message for his standards. as i, as i said in germany tonight, and his urgent and persistent calls for a c spot in the israel thomas a conflict,

i'm positioning himself very much as a potential immediately to as well. yes, he spent quite some time of course, talking about the dias, humanitarian situation in gaza, about the death toll there among men, women, a children. he said, uh the, is there any attack some cause i need to stop. he has repeated his call for a humanitarian cease via ad one ad ones. real influence on the situation on the ground is probably rather limited. that's what analysts have said from the beginning of the crisis. you know, he has tried to present himself as a media to some sort of piece pro co, something that he has done in the russia ukraine war. but when it comes to israel in time us, we have not really seen any tangible results so far. the turkish government, for example, in october,

has said that they are negotiating with him us for the release of civilian hostages, helped by the militants. but we have not heard anything about that. is that making any effort? is that making any progress? probably because other players in the region, iran called tar egypt are much more influential here. but the present ad one also talked about some humanitarian efforts efforts to get age into gaza. he said that turkey has send hundreds of tons of medical aid, for example, by cargo planes or ships to egypt to hopefully reach people inside the besieged a gaza strip. that is something he's been emphasizing over and over again here in talkie as well. and the way from the israel high mass on he's the little shopping list of the items to discuss migration at in you accession visa liberalization.

oh yes indeed. um and i think, i mean the e u tacky um session or turkeys a bid for you membership and the a session towards the fox to at a standstill at the moment. but visa liberalization is indeed a huge issue for turkey for the turkish government. it's something that's been a promise to talk. he was in the frame of work of this. you took a migration deal in 2016, but it's not been granted to to talk he and we hear from many talk a students, truckers, business people that they have huge difficulties getting a visa, a to travel to, to germany and other european countries. so that is something the turkish government is always bringing up and these bilateral talks, we also think that add one will bring up the issue of the euro fighter jet planes. simon has already talked about that and then of.