the resurgence of the so called is lumnick stage in syria. there's also plenty more and you said dw. com and on social media as a t. w news. next, spicer for me in the entire news team here in berlin. thanks. watch the discovery issues with a lot say what the

a best so he assumed glorifying that in violence. these are the children of ices members that growing up in a refugee camp in ridge of ne, in syria. this is a violent environment. if you leave the children back here, then you can say this will be the next generation of by some slight this. oh whoa, is the largest of the camps in the region. and it's considered the most dangerous in the world. and whole will turn into a ticking time bomb for further and future terrorist organizations in 2019 cody slid. forces succeeded in taking back the region from isis rule, but the militant group remains the threat. but keep that o. j headed vista for the week. and now we put an end to isis control, the 1st off uh to the organization. some ended ideology still exist here,

but the including in the prisons where isis, terrorist, so it's being held since the end of the fighting by the autonomous code is government that controls northeast in syria. a gym and is it gives us a heads up. we have about 12000 isis prisoners. a crow job is economy can cope with that on its own. the codes who live here feel abandoned and they run the threat from the neighbors that took as president ray to tell you to add one site to a terrorist took he has loans for peter defense. it's in right java a mccurdy still make it based in brussels. together with google on the cookies journalist, i'm traveling to read java in northeast and syria. often many attempts we finally been given permission to visit some of the most dangerous places in the region.

we want to find out what the legacy of the fight against isis means. the origin of and it's people, it's october 2021. we've just cross the border into syria. there's no mistaking how dangerous the situation he is still is. a suicide bowman has blown up a truck loaded with explosives, very close by shoreline drive. the judges, us to move on as quickly as possible. ac is the 2nd attack shall on used to be in the syrian army. during the civil war, he deserted and fled to the cookies regions. there he joined the militia. he's an driver and 40 god. and he's heavily on the people here peaceful

pro, government so long as gets in control. but lead support is as if it came by. the office still a piece, the town of committee sleep directly on the syrian so it gets pulled up. this is the home of the autonomous administration of northern and eastern syria, as well as java is officially cold. not long after the start of the syrian civil war, the codes who lived in the oil regional faced set up an autonomous region and declared self rule. but it's not especially recognized by the government of syria or indeed any states the road. java is a thorn in the side of turkish president ad one in particular you hum ahmed code

president of its executive council explains why those are the 2 key. what's the quote, how do you the most of rondon the how well, since it's the foundation in 1923 to the turkish republic call has denied the very existence of us current of with the so the, the government is afraid that recognizing kurdish identity in turkey co, a good week and turks as an ethnic group and divide the nation most of the month to community digikey pest. you have the best for you to do the best fun in this money. but here in rose java, the native language kurdish is taught in many schools. so the key i need to stick you bear with me. turkey does not accept that the holding the ticket with that it's why it's fighting against us sort of because it fears that the kurds in turkey

might then demand the same should even try etheridge, who would say mano, can you deal with edwin's main accusation is that right, java and it's militias. a realize that the p k. k, the code is done work as policy. he classifies the militant code, each group which is now based primarily in turkey as a terrorist organization. as to the e u and the us, i'm thinking good demick village news almost about that. so p k. k was active for enroll job for a long time one, but in the 1980s the movement spread here. the kurds in syria were oppressed at the time and had no right 110 of them pick it in the serious goods. now, rejecting the association with the p k. k u is shown, then you ruge over, but then get today the ro, java is forging its own. pansy,

the economists administration and the p k. k. are not the same to pick and do have the back of the, the codes here in re java have themselves loan being threatened by terrorism. and we instrumental in ending as tara, in the region. the, we're on our way to meet and there for us. um it come under the code is dominated military alliance. the syrian democratic forces, the sds, before we left, we had to hand over our mobile phones. it's standard practice precautionary measures since took each combat drones began targeting. could each come on this let's keep that. so j had it for the for the i'll have that we can, we put an end to i asked control of a solver. but the organization and its ideology still exists here, but it's still active in the house. it's still carrying out terror attack it assume

to 2000 bucks and not just against armed forces to get in, but also against a civilian miscarry. we want to visit the territory once claimed by isis before it was ousted by co despises. we travel to rocca, the former unofficial capital of the islamic states, the evidence of the destructive fight against the head is he's everywhere. the rock crowd became the purest example of this kind of fits ideology. isis have this public be heading, you know, these terrible pictures that reached us from america. they had a school system where they were looking at the children and the right ones. would they be trained to become lead us later on the not. so smartphones will be trained

to become suicide bombers. and yet they used to account for their own propaganda, especially to the outside world for trading this as the paradise point of calling for muslims all over the world and muslims, brothers and sisters, to join the kind of fit to build something new. that was how life has managed to a tens of thousands of foreign sizes. i'll drive it tells us that rocca is still on the safe and just as to leave. what's become of the terrorist malicious vices after they were defeated. thousands of them were imprisoned in prisons like i'll seen a 12 surprise we granted permission to fill them inside the prison. the j. o is a breeding ground for isis. explains come on the gym of people. so for the

terrorist, and he's on easy a bounce out visit, the security situation is to tense, he says, and we sent it to my hands are shaking as i hold the camera, the roar of generations, these everywhere, and the stand she's on bearable. jamal shows us around suddenly details and you start feeling a door opens and i see hundreds of isis prison is crowded together. many of them are injured. some are missing limbs. the space that held in is cramped beyond the leaf by 2 and my camera back on as we into the infirmary, is just one straight to ear of these ices prisoners. the doctors, they treat thousands of inmates in return. they have a little more space under. we're allowed to live together in this room and but us the campus of ship is we set up these prisons under difficult conditions. we

weren't prepared for what happens after the victory against i s and the battle of a goose, and we suddenly had to taken more than 5000 i as fighters fish has other c and domain dice. and i guess 10 the ice is prison is cook their own food jim owns as quietly not to get too close to them. tc is they most of the tank coasts with boiling cooking oil, we take into the main wing of the prison with the inmates exercise time in the yard is about to begin. come on to jamal, allows us to go up to the watch tower to film. gould on, however, is told to stay out of sight. she's not wearing a headscarf, and jamal is worried. this will provoke the prisoners. most a foreign jihadists who came to syria via to key to join isis. how did you wait to

see something or you just make a flight to truck? if there's someone waiting for you, he will take you and then you would take you over the board. so it was something very easy in the the gods they were welcoming you, dest, they're not stopping you, they're not going to any that was something which i think was politically and the benefits of turkey. most of these prisoners have been here or in other prisons in the region for years. no one knows what awaits them. amid the some certainty, young man in particular continue to radicalize gene. they can, it gosh, the kid can available as a new generation of isis as emerging here. as one of these people have been imprisoned for a long time, i ask if they call themselves as about a caliphate to the cubs of the caliphate. they were child soldiers between 13 and 18 years old when they came here and how much this thing done and all the prisoners

indoctrinate them, turned them into committed i. spiders and they are extremely dangerous. you have to do tests that come up that i've had good, the prisoners do it as a reaction. i don't know which kind of reaction, but it's different from one to the other. maybe 11. he really, he really has a vengeance. maybe one us, the able to become more uh, more extremist, you know, maybe some people, they will get crazy. they will lose their minds in the prison. you know? so it would create many bad results. you understand as more of the extent our, the presence in the, as this presents, this will make more problems, or in a bit of a month, our goal is to return the prisoners to their home country to sleep. but as long as they are here, we have to make sure the presence are secure. the inmates often take tunnels to try

and escape the cold on these wood. that is coming down the stairs to enjoy the attempted escapes are common. the omitted p so far we've always managed to support them. we always discover the tunnels and the time that the one the you're behind the bar. even the most important task with your brothers. we will never forget what i'm literally to you is our duty to ensure the we have a king coming coming. we don't know how much longer we can secure the presence of what we have hired more guards, but that is not enough. we need a safer place and have a better monitoring system problem until their home countries take them back on top of your p in stage. yours,

the legal lien. both in brush of 2 parts. their own jihad is there, you know, and some states, especially my state, for example, austria and not willing to take the responsibility for the citizens. and they hope that if they box them the error, they will somehow they should be in line to the conditions here. some human rights organizations have referred to these prisons as a new guantanamo. do you think we shall fall and will become the next one? tell them oh no more. i'm not able to give a rusty and a no. absolutely not. going to send him over to g, a because the prisons were set up, a fighting was ongoing. we set them up in former school buildings homeless getting keep that stuff with you and get it metal. or because we know that these spiders home countries don't want them back to me with that. but that means these countries have to help us create an international tribunal within the 3 or the 30. or they

have to pay the cost to hold the highest spiders. here wasn't a whole business. and he signed a white book, which i gave up to tier 2. we have about 12000 isis prisoners here. have a real job as economy can't cope with that on its own equipment. going to look over here over here, or you want to go ahead and visit to the prison ends abruptly. jamal thinks it's too quiet and something must be about to happen. it feels like the calm before the storm. we have to leave we want to learn more about the following to gains dicing, right. java. what traces has it left here? we had to come bonnie new the to keep syrian border. it was here that isis was pushed back for the 1st time. the beginning of its down for in september 2014, the jihadists launched a massive attack on the city. the code. each point is put up cs resistance, the east met house on organized the defense of the city.

i'm a set, it does say on the might be, it is good. isis going through the taxes from 3 signs of what we wanted to push them into the city. it's narrow street to see that because that's where we have the best chance with them all just weapons we who are the most do that group shut the we learn that people here are especially proud of the young women whose forward against dice has seen were java y p j the women's protection unit. so the female tickets within the y p g they had a very important role when it came to the bed of coal. bonnie: because these women are very dedicated, they know when of a they are being captured, buys fight us, they would be violate and they would be wait, they would be killed. so they have a very committed in this fight. we meet one of them. suck my last and i'm in the

bathroom today. she helped support others wounded in the funny thing. like many here. she's still haunted by memories. the go and the good and the basically they kept shouting. if we catch you, we will eat, you will cause know all the time they were calling us names or whether you like it or not. you cannot escape fear in battle. how did you become? and that is why you mustn't turn it into courage and faced it his head on. you're aware that the people who live here depend on you. if you give up and they will suffer for them and they will be hurt. that's why you have to fight. as i'm sure you will get the measured version for this should have received the why was i so so able to become so powerful in the 1st place. and what role did neighboring turkey play and it's rice, isis, a tech,

the kurtz to take over co. bonnie chucky was standing by not helping the crowds because it was kind of interesting for years. chucky had let, is almost hide this from all over the world and how does try to some of using the talk you soon border to come to syria to join the scientists groups there, even isis. so this is what the called the jihad is. highway in 2014 van us going as president joe biden commented, our allies in the region were our largest problem in syria. and the church present early. one told me is an old friend said, you are right. we let too many people through. i ran the license campaign, 40000 foreign fighters jihad is from 110 countries around the world. all came and a series of fight in that war. and they all came through turkey. i was in turkey more than any other countries to have them sealed their border and they would not do it. they said they couldn't do it, but the minute the occurs to parts of the borders totally see over the wall. in

september 2014, the us decided to provide military support for the could each fight against isis at the middle of most of the ship. it was an alliance against terror. on behalf of all humanity, he blew me. uh, that's what made it unique. no one ever would have expected the kurdish people's defense units and america to join forces you good. how about in the truck i'm needing i'm. i'm did not get here. i think we can see we defended the world. news caught the dogs. the prices have been successful here. how would you want to i would, i would have pushed in grave danger to the world and they go to see them. that's why the world supports us today. the 3 it get us for the in the cold on the back of the the income bonnie alone more than 1000 decode experiences what killed the,

withdrawing through an area with the fighting continued loan off to the initial victory. it took full years to defeat the tara militias. the international alliance played a crucial role. the so the americans turn to the soon democratic forces and the s t f is made up mainly by what did you fight us, but there was some other minority groups. kristen groups militias, but included into the s t s, so they became the main ally of the wisdom and to isis alliance. you know totally bit 2017. they succeeded in defeating the licensee, rucker. 6 after 4 years of brutal war to

patients under the so called isis cal. rocca, it's capital is livery. the americans announced they would train a force $30000.00 strong to god the syrian took his buddha to prevent choices from returning to his president. ad one reacted angrily and threatened military action should good service and a lot of america is building a terror army along our border. because it's, we must destroy it before it's created, civil, the global dot o mark ridge of and now had to defend itself. no, totally against only says, but also against the threatened invasion by texting. the toki showing me, boomed towns on the boat, including offering the attacks claimed some 1500 lives,

and more than 100000 people were displaced. but the courage majority militias continued to fight in march 2019. with the help of air strikes carried out by international coalition forces by goose, the last ice of stronghold was captured. the general no rose general mosley commander of the syrian democratic forces. i'd like to offer a statement on behalf of the government of the united states. we congratulate the syrian people, and particularly the syrian democratic forces on the destruction of isis is fraudulent calibrate. the ration of isis is remaining territory and eastern syria. so he continued to threaten the tax on roche java and cold on the us, allowing me to withdrawal at the u. n. in new york president to add one,

presented his plan for what he called a peace, colorado in northern syria. an attempt to control in the area that makes up a large part of his java short in the 7. and he's gone to the says, the sort of, you know, we must eliminate the p k, k y, p g terrorist organization in syria. their territories cover a quarter of syrian territory yet use are ruled by a group that someone to de criminalize under the name syrian democratic forces up the well to the 6 that we are proposing to create a piece, corporate or 30 kilometers wide and 480 kilometers long and resettle 2000000 syrians for turkey. there with the support of the international community. is john solomon, the idea of creating the secuity zone alongside the took us to in border self a double goals. first of all,

the wants to contain curtis autonomy on the soonest side of the board. the 2nd goal is to reset the sewer and refugees inside syria. because turkey has taken an almost 4000000 soon. refugees, it's a huge burden on the society. the idea is if he controls these border areas, we can send some 1000000 students back to these areas. which would mean that you have some kind of an ethnic cleansing that because these areas wouldn't hesitate by curtis population. tens of thousands of them had to flee from the target interventions before. and now he wants to reset the main, the error of syrians to that area, which would definitely not help within the ceiling society to reconcile until this together peacefully. you know, told the 2019 us troops made a surprise withdrawal from result of on then president trump sort is

the move left to people in the region desperate joy to get those of action. oh, it's cheaper. yeah. any glitches yeah. now with the new quote, suddenly they just left and people said, well, could we kurds have been betrayed again. it should not have happened to you quoted, but america had the power to assert itself against turkey. for the sake of all the victims as a courtesy of $21000.00 soldiers, that the syrian democratic forces and not one american soldier was injured during the normal. that's the state we were in. the traffic was a hold to immediately after the withdrawal of us troops took a launched its 30 invasion diverse java dumps operation piece spring by add one according to the un. more than 100000 people were displaced today.

many of them still live in refugee camps inside their own country. the worship connie camp is home to some 16000 internally displaced people. what is it takes attacked as we were homeless and flaky without children, savage, in life. and this another during our children are growing up in the wilderness. how does the live like dogs here, the music comp done today heading mental health. and there are 8 of these refugee camps in the regions. the u. n. hasn't yet supplied any aid to the caps. the syrian regime is blocking it. we have the un can only health through the syrian government, which prevent aid from reaching these refugee capitals. the on the, on the cut off in the tunnel. these people are not even recognized as

refugees. they're getting no help whatsoever. it's yours just even though they have lost everything and it does nothing, it is an atrocity. bought a keep good look. a good on the full extent of the problems ridge of it. he's facing is becoming clear to us, but how exactly can the west to contribute to greater security and stability in the region that can come easily. we have ask, i do carry on the west side of van. what's the issue about the deal? we have told them it has ministration. i've called on the western alliance to establish an international tribunal. it should be here in northeastern syria who couldn't because ices terrace, committed their crimes against the people of this region. but unfortunately, had, because everyone has abandoned us, we've been left to deal with the problem alone. it's a ticking time bomb,

a looming catastrophe. coma, i've got enough money to pay that a time bomb. he says, it's also taking in the camps with the wives, children, widows, and orphans of ices. fonts is leave. you know how they're a willows of 50000 of them, all of whom are unable to leave. the which do you want to go to get to see how much you need to good to come by 40. it shouldn't be any worse. i mean, the whole camp is the most dangerous camp in the world of breeding ground for a new generation of terrorist issues. we have no control of it. the cam company is controlled by isis that been controlled. i'm gonna take the control dash to we may tell, wait a whole we've been given permission to film. but when we arrive,

the gods tell us it's too dangerous. before they can let us into the camp, they have to find it difficult for us, and that will take a while. in the meantime, we were allowed to drive through the camp in the con, the. in a matter of minutes, little boys gathered around the car, calling us names, swearing at us and throwing stones the, the. this is a brutal place to grow up. it's steeped into violence ideology of isis. cody's god, who does not want to be filmed, tells us that the young children in the can make just as a, as if they'll sleep. that's correct. they shall have heard that she's an infidel, and that they will avenge the death of their parents. the children begin to childrens and, oh, yes,

bethel him facing that one day. they themselves will also become jihadists and sacrifice the line for the profit, the we have to leave a whole. so now we drive to camp roche, 3 hours away. we're allowed to film here and some residents have agreed to talk to us. the camp is divided into one is occupied by extreme missed women. some assume have carried down to tax themselves. the other houses families who don't belong to wisest or have renowned states audiology. you haven't been a photo martin. i made a big mistake. i was wrong to come to see me on a so that i can be no hope. i see our countries, we should take us back to school so that we can start

a new life. the visas we did, she tells us that she took off jose alone, international women's day. women who take off then he kept a threatened with being burned alive. we dad has 4 young children by to jihad his father's. this camp is no place for children. there's no education, this is a violent the environment and there's nothing for the children of duties. so children, if you leave the children back here, then you can say this will be the next generation of life, the slightest. oh there and fucked him off. any money on on, hardy, many children are smuggled out of the camp and given to isis in the, to east the, to the you're doing this is how they recruit child soldiers, vargas and doctors. it's hard, but i tried to protect my son from the radical extremist ideology and the cancer needs to scan. it will be in this and in this little video watch or, you know,

we told that these women are only a small minority among thousands of capture dias, women. they see themselves as victims of vices and to no, i haven't been involved in the crimes against syrian and do rocky women and children. women loyal to weiss is on the other hand, often hide children whose mothers have died simply to prevent them from being placed in the care of people. they see as infidels. we drive to one of the orphanages with children who could be taken out of the camp leave on hold on one of them. they often don't even know the nationality of children. we provide them with a good upbringing, education. we can do that to what we worry about their future,

what will become of them? and then they'll go have a list of books there. all right here. thank god. and how much is 0? and you take care of the children who was and they said dikes to hang on at the the diesel. yeah, i loved them as their mother would. and more of that when they shouldn't feel that they're not loved, manage them. i mean, we may count way back to our whole non difficulties wasting for us, and we were allowed to enter the camp with the camera. i'll ho is a known home to a large number of hon. cool, isis. the folders. it's reputed to be a haven for radicals and fanatics. this is the most dangerous part about truth as a whole has turned into a city, and it has to and to a small kind of it because it consists of 3 parts. and you've all key celia and

it's just a national part with the most radical isis members being the internationals. oh no, we are inside the whole come under what we're about to arrive at the model. now um this good fit hard takes us to the part of the camp where the foreign women and their children leave. these women have phone the hard line group. we only want the law of god, syria to apply by a judge all the children. here are the new soldiers of isis you sit, the did very be was found this morning the every day something like this happens here where they were to put on the side of the baby was in a plastic bag in the trash event. many bad things happen here, immigration,

everybody, that it won't just, women was killed. that's all these threw her into the sewage system and i each to many atrocities how come. but if a chance that option i'm not, i'm on, let's go to the more it visa card is not dangerous. no one. that's why i'm here. this is the campus market is organized by the residents themselves. i'm try talking to them just the bottom of the 110, sorry. know if they've been forbidden to talk to us. i didn't. yes, the it is very difficult to control to contain the living conditions are unbearable.

it's very dangerous to leave foreign ices men. but that can't, especially children because and whole will turn into a ticking time bomb for further and future terrorist organizations that could we much from that for a more fish motor. i'm not going to know how long did that did you see the 2 years and versus if they didn't, i'd be at us before and exploring. some of them are armed men getting it and that's good. it might suddenly come out to shoot and run away. but i did it, and this is what happens and i think you have it. isn't it too dangerous for us? yes, it's getting dangerous. the market is getting too crowded. is no longer safe here. hey, easy that. the ha of the they some, we know that about it. we know that the groups in a whole are well organ nice and are also receiving orders from outside the much way of contact with the outside of the and communicate by cellphones head. well,

what given a trouble? i think we're changing the vacant orders to attack and kill people. going to look into that it can i mean you have to push to change events or did you see every day people are killed there? that where the foreign women lives and a new generation of terrorist is being raised, or they couldn't. then that he now would have to do a new we believe that they'll be a much more dangerous and isis it sound to you or what that can help you from an early age beeping, federal radical extremist ideas which but they're really just on a hunger for revenge, i just figured i'd be cut equal and outside of data sharing at all, i'm the children are being groomed to become new fighters to the people held in the camps and prisons are making long term plans and they don't hide that fact. they say we're coming back and will be even stronger in the zip code of the

video shares the message that the islamic states will live on. it shows the flag of the calla site flying in the camp, the juniors and fortunately, and all of this turkey is helping isis the most typical of it. awesome. yeah, yeah. the, there are many illegal cells that help people escape from the campus. so the every day there are attempts to escape from the account when those who succeed lead to try to print, but it would take a certificate of often there smuggled out with turkey's help, the in response to key says it only helps people who need to be rescued leave, i'll whole, it's domestic intelligence service really comes to the rescue of foreigners who

want to be returned to their home countries. our impression of i'll hold is that it's both a refugee and an internment temp. a threatening, it must be, was palpable in the can. original of a field, highly volatile, the legacy of isis here in the region. in january 2022, shortly after out. truth, many people's worst fee is came true to i, a suicide bomb is blew themselves up. outside the scene of prison videos from inside the prison circulated on social media, you definitely can see that this was a very val, organized uprising. and it was an attempt actually to take over the city to is

not just an attempt to escape from prison. why? in the suit and democratic forces fall off against these faces, uprising who has to come to a key continued to use dead thrones against this who in democratic forces. so that even attached coordinates for the driving for how to fight isis in the, in the could, each military managed to regain control. it was about that we weren't only targeting the prison. they wanted to create chaos in a hole in the hospital and rock of region isis referred to the 2nd tell us it. thank wanted to retain control over the entire region like the 374 jihad is reported to have been killed in the fighting and many

a believe to of escape the command a demo. the god who showed us around the prison is one of the $77.00 prison stuff who executed the and then we hear that set up the caregiver from the off and each was also killed in a turkish drone strike. to a case, regression is also increasing income easily. we ourselves experienced an attack as we were leaving the office around return. on september 20 2022 president added one again addressed the un. and again he stated that there is no difference between the kurdish military and the terrorist. p. k. k. l troop lift is convinced that there is

a real danger of an ices for surgeons. and root java is being left to deal with this threat on its own. what if the codes can no longer keep going? so son to control the repercussions will likely be felt in europe to the or the is it ok? or can you set on it? so we have to try to send it to this person. you have, you try to predict to people in support of feeding and someone the design of the dr . mrs. from johannesburg to homes with autistic joy. and every piece is infused with the capital's history of free max. 30 minutes on the w,

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