the, the dw news line from then the leader of how nice says a deal with israel is close. they've sold that would include a policy and fine thing on the release of hostages captured by the tenant group on october. the 2nd we'll hear from an x ray, the family with 3 family members with the house, the, and feel go welcome to the program, is ro on her mazda appears to be on the verge of an agreement to release some of

the hostages found in gaza. according to a statement cited by several news agencies, the leader of the palestinian militants, is male, jaime said that negotiators are close to reaching a bill. if so, the agreement would say a swath of palestinian prisoners being held in his writing jails for a significant number of his randy hostages taken by hamas. on the 7th of october, a temporary truce of several days is also set to be part of the deal, as is to move with a few men of tammy and aid into the territory. as well as those negotiations continue. several families office rarely hostages of voice to concern, but israel's war cabinet is not doing enough to bring their loved ones home. relatives met with lawmakers to us not to pursue a bill that would enable the death penalty for captured palestinian militants. the frustration boiling over their anger is directed towards fall as a member of the connect with national security committee. the families of the

hostages, abducted by hum us out against the proposed rule, endorsed by some committee members. the draft been in the bus that they've been in the for tentative, but the families believe even that, to pay it around the pl, quick jeopardize the lives of their loved ones. the old on can you look at us, but not just an outside to look into us as if she is your sister as if he is your child. he'll grandchild. would you risk anything that could now home his life out of the whole world behind him shuttle when he is back? prosecute them, raised this discussion again. but he is not here because of this. he may never return. maybe gloves that close to millions all fall right. members, the 5th strays guffman seats are dead but a due diligence because we know i'd say, i think there's a death penalty is required. so such events as we saw don't happen. another massacre or another disaster or that sort of an argument the families are notifying

. maybe you should stop talking about killing arabs and stop talking about saving jews. no, don't tell me about how we want to kill arrows because it was us, it was getting killed by them. not the other way around that they have all done with emotions running high, many israelis losing the patients. they have been regularly protesting, asking the government to do more. this is incredibly disappointing because i feel that at this point, when we know that taking them from us we keep hearing from them is going to take months or years. and it's going to take a long time. on the other hand, the other objective is time sensitive. people are dying. a hostage d between is dryden, him, us, appears to be in the works. and many here don't want to risk anything. now that the

return of, at least from the object, these would be just around the corner. well, yeah, correspondent rebecca riches in jerusalem. how soon a deal to free the hostages might actually happen. unfortunately, it's still too early, or it's almost impossible to predict these questions. we have seen deals get close in the past. we've been seeing these negotiations take place since almost the beginning and we haven't moments had good clear signals that we thought the deals were going to happen and for various reasons they have fallen through. this is of course, the closest, it seems, the closest old side pretty much agreeing as far as from what we're hearing. perhaps israel still the final light, positive piece of the puzzle when it comes to agreeing to this deal. so it really is just a little bit too soon. still, it could happen at any moment as we've so as the other hostage do uh,

deals of negotiations with the release of the other hostages earlier in this will also came as a, as a quite surprised when they happened. it was sort of this, these things happen very quickly and then suddenly we should say that happening. i think if it's going to happen, we will be seeing that within the next 72 hours. but as i say, it's just too soon or impossible to know whether or not they still actually come to fruition, but still to be own ivy is an american is riley and kind of a 2 members of her family were killed and october 7th tenant attacks. 3 others, i believe to be homeless hostages, a welcome to dw, i'm, we'll come to this talk of a deal in, in a moment. could you stop by telling us about the family members that you've lost and those you're worried about the story. thank you for having me. on the morning of october 7th, we begin checking in with family. we have family that lives on keyboards near aust, which if you look at the map,

it's really right across the border and the southern part of gaza. and we have family living in different houses on the keyboards, and they began reporting a terrace infiltration hearing of gunshots and so on. and what transpired over the next few hours was that 5 of the family members were taken hostage, carmela dunn, who turned 80 in captivity. my aunt, her granddaughter, knew i had slept over at her house. she was a 13 year old of just a girl. and in the other house were 2 other of carmella, the grandchildren. so who was 16 and at the time i'm aaron's was 11 and they were with their father over there. they escaped through a window. and on october 8th, we saw a video of arrows in from us, his hands kind of pulling him down the road. and we understood at that point that they had been taken hostage. we found out 9 days later that all 5 were indeed confirmed hostages. but one day later, the military came back to let him know his mother know that both her daughter and

her mother had been murdered by from us and their bodies have been found. it's terrible. and how is your family coping? we are coping direction. we are doing everything we can, carmella was an american citizen, and i've been working as much as i can with the us government and us media. um, all of them are french citizens. and so we've been working with the clone and with the french media as well. and we're doing everything possible we can inside of as well. i don't think that there is rest until all of them are home. and i don't mean just my family. i mean, every single hostage. tell us about the sort of contacts you had with is really uh oh, sorry. so since that this, the 7th of october it took a while for them to to create a connection and to be forthcoming. and as much as it sounds hard, if it makes sense, they are dealing with such a complex situation. you know,

i'm an american, so i think about 911. but when 911 happened, the terror was confined to that one day. and then what we thought started later and was halfway across the world. but the tear that happened here on the 7th required that we had to immediately secure our borders and protect ourselves against from us . and so the government was dealing both with that effort, as well as trying to understand how to manage the hostages. i can say communication has improved, but we as families don't get a great deal of concrete information from the work cabinet. i think we learn more from the media. right. so how, how long was it into the space process? if i can put it that way that, that you started to, to find out who you need to speak to, how you can contact people within that. these riley governments you, you said at 1st it was, it was different. yes. and you understood why? so how did you negotiate that?

it took 4 days for them to even build the work cabinet. i think in the beginning there was, you know, kind of this belief that it took so long and then it took 9 days for them to reach out to us as a family and we have 5 hostages. there are some families that have 10, but there are some families that have one and so we felt like how is it possible that we're not hearing from them? these are all members of our government. so we know who they are. we started trying to go after them ourselves. we checked with started, you know, trying to get to them. but at the same time, in that same set of days, secretary state lincoln was here. we spoken to him to present and biden, and we had 10 senators for bi partisan dot legation show up from the united states . and i think that contradiction really showed the difference in the responses. but again, these really government was focusing both on the war and on the hostages, and they don't they, they're not the same goal in a sense. they are conflicting in many ways and it adds complexity. now we're hearing a tool on its own. you've asked at the moment we're hearing talk of

a deal being close that i do that 80 said would involve a swap of palestinian prisoners for hostages. your family amongst them, i'm my guess would be you being here before. how do you, you base the space in formal and informal talk of a deal and i try not to pay a ton of attention to it until i think it's real. we've gotten our hopes up. we know that things are fragile and we're just waiting for something to be concrete. the fact that for hostages have been released and one has been rescued is amazing. it's better than nothing at this point, but it also feels very challenging that we have to fight to continue to make sure the hostage issue doesn't get lost. and the people move on this, you know, yesterday was the international day of children. and we didn't hear word from you in a staff, we haven't heard word from any you and or global health organizations regarding

sign of life or medical status of anyone. and right now we feel like we're unsure how the world isn't screening on behalf of the hostages as an american, and it is rarely and a human. we're sad about every loss of life, but it feels like the world is not screening hard enough for these innocent civilians that are being held hostage. and what you've heard about the potential, the possible terms of, of this deal. do you have thoughts on that or is it just the case of whatever it takes? let's get that people hung up. i think at this point i think there's the complexity of the ceasefire because it quits our soldiers at risk. and that's clearly a challenge and something that we need to not we, the government and the military need to think really, really critically about. but if it's a prisoner slot, take the prisoners, bring our families home. i feel like i don't know what else can be done and so

take the prisoners, we can figure that out at another point. but if it means that we get our families home, then i think absolutely that's, it's a no brainer for me. or you can many interviews since these terrible attacks. obviously keeping the spotlight on the hostage issue. how does all this activity on behalf of your missing family? how do you balance that with you will need to grieve and come to terms with the losses that you suffer. i don't, i think you just push forward and you go grieving when there's time. i know, i feel like when they're home, i'm going to go to sleep for a really long time, and then i'll wake up and and grief. but in the meantime, it's just doing everything we can. you know, i stood a protest this morning and tell of eve, i went to houses square after that to see the installations and the people to meet american jews that are here visiting, to bear witness to what's happening. and you just keep doing everything you can to

make sure that this issue doesn't get lost and these people don't get forgotten. 34 children, people who are wounded, elderly men, women, all of them. every single one needs to be brought home. we cannot know, neither side can build a war on their backs. have you thought about what you're going to do? what you're going to say when you have these 5 people back in your life again, i have 3 people back because 2 are murdered. i look it's, it's my cousin son that we're speaking about. he's the same age as a vine and the only thing i wish i had 0 need for myself for anything i want him and his sister to be with their mother. i want them to feel whole and safe, and whatever they need, that's what i want to facilitate. and that's it. now that's would be what i wanted . and i think every single one of us needs to think about is this is our child. if we don't have children, if it was our sibling or a parent or grandparent,

i would crawl out of my skin. if this was my child, it's not mine, but it's my family. and so anything they need when they come back to feel safe and to feel whole. and i have to imagine that's their mother. thank you so much for speaking to us today and wish you well with your and dennis. i be on the thank you . thank you. which indeed over the news line from by then i, reminder of our top story at this hour, the head of the medicine group, hamas says it is close to a time preachers with israel. the 2 sides have been to go see a thing, a deal with exchange come spinning and christmas. boy, is there anything hostage is captured by a mouse. on october vista, we got you can always get the w news on the go. just download the app from google plan from the apple app store. i'll give you access to the basics news around the world as well. just to push notifications for any breaking news or back with more

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