[000:00:00;00] the, this is dw news line from the and then the leader of how mos, as a deal with israel is close. it's likely to see a pause in fighting on the release of hostages. elizabeth riley's captain by the militants on october. the 7th of putting pressure on these writing will convert to prioritize the sights of their loved ones. are sad about every loss of life, but it feels like the world is not screening hard enough for these innocent civilians that are being held hostage. these writing 3 family members,

how the hostage by hamas tells dw how she's coping on fighting to get how that one's whole. also moment probably around germany's defense minister makes an unexpected visit to kids and to show support phone, depressed bites against russian. or as the story of some meets with the officials to discuss the weapons shipments, german training of ukrainian trips on the future of trail blazing techs the open a i is a risk got to hundreds of employees, threatened to quit from the company's board flat, c, e o some ultimate the i feel good. welcome to the program ero and how mazda appears to be on the verge of agreements to release some of the hostages being held in gaza. according to a statement cited by several of these agencies, the leader of the palestinian militants is now here

a said that the those ages are close to reaching a deal. if so, the agreement would say a swap of palestinian prisoners being held in is ready to jails. for a significant number of these riley hostages taken by hamas on the 7th of october, a temporary truce of several days is also said to be possible. this deal as is being moved with a few monetary and aid into gaza. unless those negotiations continue, several families of these rarely hostages have voiced the concern that israel's will competent isn't doing enough to bring their loved ones home. relatives met with lawmakers to urge them not to pursue is that you slicing that would enable the death penalty for capture and palestinian militants. the frustration boiling over their anger is directed towards far as a member of the connected national security committee. the families of the hostages, abducted by hum us out against the proposal,

endorsed by some committee members. the draft been enable to start dec been in the for tentative. but the families believe even that to pay it around the pay could jeopardize the life of their loved ones. the old on can you look at us, but not just an outside to look into us as if she is your sister as if he is your child? he'll grandchild. would you risk anything that could now home his life out of the world behind shall when he is back. prosecute them raised this discussion again. tell me, but he is not here because of this. he may never return because it includes your millions all fall right. members, the 5th strays guffman, seats are dead, but a due diligence. we need a prescription. i think there's a death penalty is required. so such events as we saw don't happen. another mastercard, or should i not the disaster of all that sort of an argument from these are not

buying. maybe you should stop talking about killing arabs and stop talking about saving jews. don't tell me about how we want to kill arrows because it was us who was getting killed by them. not the other way around that they're all done with emotions running high, many israelis losing the patients. they have been regularly protesting, asking the government to do more. this is incredibly disappointing because i feel that at this point, when we know that taking them from us we keep hearing from them is going to take months or years. and it's going to take a long time. on the other hand, the other objective is time sensitive. people are dying. a hostage d between is dryden, him, us, appears to be in the works. and many here don't want to risk anything. now that the return of, at least from the object,

these would be just around the corner. well i'd be own is un american. these radian tel aviv to members of the family, but killed in the october 7, 10, or attacked. 3 of those, i believe, to be homeless hostages. i asked her to tell us about the family members. she's lost on those. she still worried about the story. thank you. for having me on the morning of october 7th, we begin checking in with family. we have family that lives on keyboards near aust, which if you look at the map, it's really right across the border and the southern part of gaza. and we have family living in different houses on the keyboards, and they began reporting a terraced infiltration hearing of gunshots and so on. and what transpired over the next few hours was that 5 of the family members were taken hostage, carmela dunn, who turned 80 in captivity. my aunt, her granddaughter, knew i had slept over at her house. she was a 13 year old of just a girl. and in the other house were 2 other of criminal,

his grandchildren saw her who was 16, and at the time aaron's was 11 and they were with their father over there. they escaped through a window and on october 8th, we saw a video of arrows in from us, his hands kind of pulling him down the road. and we understood at that point that they had been taken hostage. we found out 9 days later that all 5 were indeed confirmed hostages. but one day later, the military came back to let him know his mother know that both her daughter and her mother had been murdered by some us and their bodies have been found. it's terrible and how is your family coping? we are coping direction. we are doing everything we can. carmella was an american citizen. and i've been working as much as i can with the us government and us media . all of them are fresh citizens and so we've been working with the cooling and with the french media as well. and we're doing everything possible we can inside of

as well. i don't think that there is rest until all of them are home. and i don't mean just my family, i mean every single hostage tell us about the sort of contact you have had with is really uh oh, sorry. so since that this, the 7th of october, it took a while for them to to create a connection and to be forthcoming. and as much as it sounds hard, if it makes sense, they are dealing with such a complex situation. you know, i'm an american, so i think about 911. but when 911 happened, the terror was confined to that one day. and then what we thought started later and was halfway across the world. but the tear that happened here on the 7th required that we had to immediately secure our borders and protect ourselves against from us . and so the government was dealing both with that effort as well as trying to understand how to manage the hostages. i can say communication has improved,

but we as families don't get a great deal of concrete information from the work cabinet, i think we learn more from the media. right. so how, how long was it into the space processing? and i can put it that way that, that you started to, to find out who you need to speak to, how you can contact people within that. these riley at government you, you set it up 1st, it was, it was difficult and you understood why. so how did you negotiate that? it took 4 days for them to even build the work cabinet. i think in the beginning there was, you know, kind of this belief that it took so long and then it took 9 days for them to reach out to us as a family and we have 5 hostages. there are some families that have 10, but there are some families that have one and so we felt like how is it possible that we're not hearing from them? these are all members of our government. so we know who they are. we started trying to go after them ourselves, each was started, you know, trying to get to them. but at the same time, in that same set of days,

secretary state lincoln was here. we spoken to him to present and biden, and we had 10 senators for bi partisan dot legation show up from the united states . and i think that contradiction really showed the difference in their responses. but again, these really government was focusing both on the war and on the hostages, and they don't they, they're not the same goal in a sense. they are conflicting in many ways and it adds complexity. now we're hearing a tool and it's only vast at the moment we're hearing talk of a deal being close that i do that 80 said would involve a swap of palestinian prisoners for hostages. your family amongst them, i'm my guess would be you being here before. how do you, you base the space in formal and informal talk of a deal and i try not to pay a ton of attention to it until i think it's real. we've gotten our hopes out. we

know that things are fragile and, and we're just waiting for something to be concrete. the fact that for hostages have been released and one has been rescued is amazing. it's better than nothing at this point, but it also feels very challenging that we have to fight to continue to make sure the hostage issue doesn't get lost. and the people move on this, you know, yesterday was the international day of children. and we didn't hear word from you in a staff, we haven't heard word from any you and or global health organizations regarding sign of life or medical status of anyone. and right now we feel like we're unsure how the world isn't screening on behalf of the hostages as an american, and it is rarely and a human. we're sad about every loss of life, but it feels like the world is not screening hard enough for these innocent civilians that are being held hostage. and what you've heard about the potential, the possible terms of,

of this deal. do you have thoughts on that or is it just the case of whatever it takes? let's get that people hung up. i think at this point, i think there's the complexity of the ceasefire because it puts our soldiers at risk. and that's clearly a challenge and something that we need to not we, the government in the military need to think really, really critically about. but if it's a prisoner swap, take the prisoners, bring our families home. i feel like i don't know what else can be done and so take the prisoners, we can figure that out at another point. but if it needs that we get our families home, then i think absolutely that's. it's a no brainer for me. i mean, i'm talking to me a little earlier, but take a look now at some most or is that making use today is ready for us, as of right is the largest refugee camp in the occupied westbank palestinian media reporting that a child was injured by his right of gun 5. during the attack on the ballasa camp in the north of the territory. it's right,

the military operations in the west bank of search since the hamas attacks of the 7th of october. nobody's media reporting that 3 people, including 2 journalist have been killed and i'm is ready to attack and 711 on the i with my a dean television channels that he's right. the forces that deliberately targeted it's report as is right. the ministry says it's looking into the incident. yes, some of the spanish prime minister petro sanchez and his confidence have been sworn in to governments like infinity paid as a set of money and betrayed mr. sanchez clinched. another time as prime minister last week after receiving the parliamentary backing of several smaller potters and exchanged a grunting. i'm just as to several cattle on separatist move, sparked widespread protest in spite this driver's defense minister protest this. doris has made a surprise visit the key of to underline, brother in support for ukraine, and these fights against the russians invasion. this is doris attendance reflecting sentiment,

near case my bad square to commemorate those who died in pro democracy protests a decade ago. he said the might on the might on protesting 2013 off scale of major relevance today. and he meant to use ukrainian cantavon, who was the owner of and he announced a new military, a package for you. craig, with 1300000000 yours. you need to create is people of all ages chuck through the streets to demand freedom and closer ties with europe and they paid for it with their lives, which is today. most ukrainians are fighting for the freedom once again. they've been fighting for almost one year and 9 months against a foreign invader. i'm here again, 1st of all until pledge further support, but also to express our solidarity in the fall and it also or admiration for the courageous brave and costly fight that's being waged here. it's almost like uncomfortable punishment intends fighting. we say in russian onto crating and

forces in ukraine caves that on sunday that it had pushed back a russian forces from the to meet pro river in the south. the 1st major advance for months, especially forces. meanwhile, have been pounding the safety of, of dave in the east taking heavy losses, but reportedly moving forward, rush, it occupies about one 6th of your trains territory. the deputies mitzi is putting a travel to the front line in the east of having training. and military is adopting its strategy to protect a valuable auxilary against russian drugs hidden in the bushes somewhere above more section of the frontline since the ukraine mammal, artillery crew, one and a half years into the war. the tactics have changed. send you some insights, the wallet before we're used to be very low miles, we would drive out to the position, shoot, and then drive off,

obtain new targets and drive to a different position. we now we do everything from a hidden position of each other. that's how it works. that's why the reason is sometimes that in their jones, permanently hovering over the front lines artillery pieces of valuable target. so both sides, so incoming fire can be free rather than driving around and open roads artillery units. now try to hide their equipment, a cage of way, a mission office, some protection, because the drones explode against the mesh rather than the equipment. this so prepared how it has been in service for several decades. for soviet's name, the rest of the re off to flowers. this 122, many me to to refuse this call is a coordination way to move

wisdom. not hillary has had a huge impact on the, from the soviet era how it says to payroll or them to come schedule. so probably it with a bit of humor. we can buy spare parts for this equipment at any car repair shop. are you still with what? but if nato equipment gets out of order, we'll have to call the repair specialists for us to bring very special tools and get some instruments. some of the crew updates the guardian and so for target and quickly gets read the full or after shooting, they need these, they leave the vehicles. every shot fired from this position, increases the probability of being detected. yeah,

that goes on there is the widespread assumption that they are idiots. so that is not at all the case. and so they also know how to fight. they know what they're doing is not strong, although they evolve and learn. and so do we move on the cages closed again and even from jones with the conversation we experience next task off a holland. michelle is a senior fellow at the comment, details of ethics in international affairs. and you, you speaking to us from boss hello. now i asked him since both sides relying heavily on drones in this conflict. and he told us more about the effectiveness of russian drone technology. me simply put, it seems to be incredibly affective. and part of the reason i say that is because here with talking not about the sort of weaponized you know, drum bum dropping drones that have donated the headlines, but actually on, um,

recognizance drones here. and in many cases, drones are actually most effective in wolf as an eye in the sky, you know, for finding the enemy for following the enemy. and that's because you know, whereas in on um drown, which is sort of the minority of the drones and rushes fleet. i'm currently carry a small number of weapons. a recognizance drone can very quickly pos information, for example, about the location of the ukrainian artillery unit to some very large weapon systems. and russia has figured out over many years of use dating way back since before the war and ukraine. how to very quickly pass the information from drones to especially it's hot tillery units. ok. and then we had the in the report that it was at the founding, quite interesting maintenance being such an issue. i'm all ukranian, some of these, anyone in this conference, are you better off with the latest super duper high tech drone technology?

or is something that is a bit more low tech and easily repaired and maintained a better i would say for certain uses you may be better off with consumer jerome technology, you know, because um, possibly the, the individual components of those drones are easily purchased that easily saw in some cases you can buy them online. so as compared to say, a us supplied drone where all of the components are very tightly controlled in terms of the exporting supply. you know, if you have a quoted copy drove that was originally designed for, you know, photography, an aerial cinematography. um, you know, if you run out of batteries you can replace them easily. if you run out of propel is you can run out of um you can replace them easily. and so in that sense then may be a tactical advantage just in sort of the scale of the use that you can have in these on um,

systems as compared to something very big and fancy and sophisticated. you know, with buttons on miss styles and most is on it. i'm going raul's role has, has drug and technology played. and in this war, which appears to have, despite the intense find intense fighting, it seems to have sort of ground to a hold on, on both sides of drones. been instrumental in that it's, it's an interesting question. i was thinking about it now. i would say the pros have contributed in a way to this, to this sort of stalemate, this like 1st world hall situation with, you know, no one is gaining much ground. and that's because you have an effective in the sky above you. that's really going to reduce your mobility, you know, you're not going to be able to make any major moves, whether it be an actual, you know, offensive run into no man's land. or just sort of building off you'll capabilities

or moving tanks or machinery from one place to another without being spotted from the sky. so, you know, it's going to rely on non mobility related measures, but typically the balance of the war, which of course, you know, i'm much more difficult to, to achieve. it was all the hollow, michelle, from the economy. he kinds of ethics and international effects is look at the symbol stores making the news around the world south in india, where 1st visual contact has been made between rescuers and indian workers stuck in a tunnel and, and discuss a camera. it was slicked inside a pipe job into the attic. with 41 men had been shot for more than a week. the total of to atara con state was under construction, but it caved in after i'm on slide. presidents of new britain island didn't pop for a new guinea. i'm preparing to evacuate after a volcano of ad big guns we wrapped on monday. 9th, with a one shot ash into the sky,

forcing the cancellation off some flights. disaster management teams have been sent to the island to coordinate the, the evacuation u. s. navy playing over shot to runway in hawaii. on monday, i'm leaving the address strategies in a by ministry official say o 9 people on board made it safely to show i'm on home. the us marine corps has not commented on the calls of the in some of the future leading artificial intelligence stuff behind a chat g p t is in jeopardy with hundreds of it. staff are threatening to create over the sacking of c e o some. ultimately, the board of open a, i 5 is to open unexpectedly on friday and, and i'm just plans to join microsoft open to any ais biggest financial backup. to lead a new i research team. now, employees a warning they'll leave and follow him. a message brought back on the board,

resigns. let's look at the potential implications for base for open a i on the i industry. we the ways not. sockets is a freelance technology generally welcome to the w i. let's start with the the sacking of why did the open i board of 5, mr. over so that's a really important question that we really don't know the answers here at this point. so initially, the board of directors said that basically, altman, had lied to them in some way, or was, you know, not consistently candid about their communications i, which is how they put it. but right now we really don't have clarity about whether there was a specific incident or not. know a executives at open a. i have said that there's no, you know, specific malfeasance, that old man. they've been responsible for it, they can point to. so that remains one of the big mysteries. they all just, we haven't done anything. we can point to what we sat down without. notice how

serious of these threats from employees do you think the board will go? you know, the board has proven to be, you know, ex, streamline, stubborn, right? you know, at this point where it's over 72 hours and they fired all man. uh and there's no science that they're going to resign anytime soon. you know, right now they're still in negotiations ongoing and you know, they talked about adding more members to the. busy or, you know, it's worth noting that the board shrunk, you know, from 9 seats to 6 seats earlier this year. so i think part of the problem is that sort of power was consolidated among the small group of people. but i think they're unlikely to back down because they really share this belief that the sorts of ad systems that opening i is developing compose a really serious threat to humanity. and so i think that they're, you know, unlikely to, to choose to go away when that's the stakes that they're thinking about here. right . and so these couple of 100 the employees were talking about going. so it looks as

though that block is going to be cold and i think they're placed, their boss might be called, it looks like right now what might be happening is that they're still indigo. she sions, but the board about opening potentially coming back. um but yeah it's totally possible . busy that opening i could basically cease to exist at this point. you know, it's not just some employees versus others. you know, last, i tracked over 95 percent of employees had signed this letter saying that they were going to quit it. the board did not resign. so we're really in a situation where, you know, a, i might pose in like the central rest of humanity. but right now the core, the board is posing an essential right in a central threat to open a i itself. why would he go back? he's got a big jump with microsoft. why we to go back to it to, to the company that but, but sacked him? well, i think one consideration is that even if he goes to microsoft and sort of brings every one with him, it's not necessarily clear that they would be able to bring all of the intellectual property, but they be able to, you know, operate as usual, you know, open a,

i has to have all these relationships with a bunch of different customers, you know, what would it mean potentially to have to change the brand. and right, like could they still use the charge of the t name? you know, there's a lot of considerations that would make it really difficult. and right now, you know, open a, i is in this reyes with competitors like meta and google, all of which are, you know, working full steam ahead. while opening, i sort of melting down into total chaos to be a lot easier. everyone can just, you know, go back open their computers and, and, you know, continue exactly what they were working on. whereas, you know, if they do, i'll go to microsoft, they're going to have to, you know, gear up to work at a different company, potentially have different considerations have to rework the marketing, the branding, you know, perhaps retrain the models themselves. and that could be in that they're losing a lot of time, you know, and potentially seating ground to their competitors. ok, thank you for that. the reset and not sockets of freelance that technology john

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