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the, the business, the, the winners line from berlin, the leader of a mont says deal with israel is close. it's likely to see a pause in finding and the release of dozens of hostages. families of israel is captured by the militants on october 7th, or putting pressure on the is really wor cabinet to put the return of their loved ones. first, your sad about every loss of life, but it feels like the world is not screening hard enough for these innocent civilians that are being held hostage. and is really with 3 family members being held hostage by how much tells dw how she's coping and fighting to get her loved
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ones. how also on the program, germany's defense minister makes an unexpected visit to keys and to show support for you greens, fight against russia. or if the story is, meets with officials to discuss the weapon shipments and german training of ukrainian troops and the future of trail blazing tech for over ne, i is that risk hundreds of employees have threatened to quit after the company's board fired ceo sam whole the i'm to confer like it's good to have you with us israel and how long appear to be on the verge of an agreement to release some of the hostages being held in gaza. prime minister benjamin netanyahu says he has summoned his war cabinets to address what he called developments and the matter of the release of our hostages. the
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political leader of the palestinian militants is mile honey. he has said that negotiators are quote, close to reaching a deal. it stopped the agreement would see a swap of palestinian prisoners being held in is really jails for a significant number of is really hostages taken by her mos on october 7th, a temporary truce of several days is also set to be part of the deal. as is the movement of humanitarian aid into gaza, he was presidential by and told reporters that he is very hopeful. the hostages will be free soon. the working on my team very, very close to i
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know several families of is really hostages, have voiced the concern that the country is wor, cabinet, isn't doing enough to bring their loved ones home. relatives met with lawmakers to urge them not to pursue legislation that would allow the death penalty for captured palestinian militants. relatives of hostages, protesting intel a v. as israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu summoned his war cabinet in mid growing signs that a deal to release hostages, taken by him us could be imminent. gotcha, our 2nd goal is the return of the hostages were making progress. i don't think it's worth the thing too much, not at even this moment, but i hope there will be good news soon. we are now at the closest point we,
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as it had been an engaging and an agreement, we are very optimistic, very helpful. but we are also very keen to this mediation to, to succeed in the coaching, humanitarian, the tooth. the tentative deal could see the release of over 50 hostages. sources say the progress comes after some families accused sickness, its national security committee, and endangering the lives of their missing loved ones. now there's some optimism. i think the only thing that i can call just as soon as we get everyone back home. but i do understand that it's difficult and i hope this data will help us bring everybody back home as well. and i'm really hopeful that they will come back soon. many here don't want to risk anything. now that a return of at least some of the captives could be just around the corner. let's
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take your lives to tel aviv now were relatives of hostages are protesting, demanding their release of their loved ones and more action from the government. benjamin that you know, is currently meeting with member as of his cabinet to hammer out the last details of the possible release of 50 is really hostages. as it's being reported earlier, a us official quoted by the reuters news agencies said any hostages release with mostly the women and children with 150 palestinian prisoners fried by israel in exchange for them. and we can now get more from the w, corresponded ben for sewland, who joins us from jerusalem. then what are you hearing about this hostage deal and how it might play out? a military sports person has just the front of the meteor and said that progress is being made. that's what we're being told from all sides from the americans,
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from the terry side, the mediators, it will, the main mediators in this home, us as well saying that the bowl is in israel's court. and we've had to not extraordinary meetings by the wall cabinet, followed by disagree, curity cabinet, a wide cabinet, and also the government. now, a deal is on the cost, according to all sources. but way yet to have been told what's going on. whether or not a deal is made to night, it would take another full day for israel to go through the legal procedures that the related to releasing any palestinian prisoners. that's what, how most one's here is once the release of palestinian prisoners in exchange for these hostages. of course, when not going to get all hostages released, and how mazda is not going to get all the palestinian prisoners release that at once. when you take a look at the figures that are being thrown around at the moment,
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this would be the 1st sustained pause in the fighting in 45 days of war. the 1st, the escalation, it would be a major breakthrough. so it's yet to be seen, of course, but sources also say the government would be prepared to extend any such deal to get all of the hostages eventually out of the gaza strip. will be major news. now ben, these talks have been going on for quite some time. what led to what now appears to be a breakthrough as well. it's been a very hotline that netanyahu and his government have been following old hostages equals a ceasefire. now we're hearing for the 1st time, okay, maybe some hostages, women and children, for example, and in phases, possibly, uh, 50 hostages over a time period of 5 days, 10 day, while surveillance, drones taken down by the use way, the sites so that how most find is can release the hostages and won't reveal they
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hide out. so the tunnels where they possibly holding these hostages, it would be more realistic approach to this operation. considering that some $236.00 hostages, a set to be held over $35.00 of those children. 62 of them women and 8 aged over 81 of them being 85 years old, the youngest being or the 9 months old. it's a very tricky situation considering as well that when not sure if how much is holding all of these hostages, they could be held by private individuals and other militant groups within the gaza strip. what's changing now though? is the 5 right opposition to these steel sofa? the 2 of the parties in this coalition of netanyahu's have said they would not allow such a deal to go through. this is what's being discussed right now at this hour. and
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that could be the brakes for the domain has been for the live in jerusalem. thanks be on, is an american israel antello even to members of her family, were killed and the october 7th, her attacks 3 others are believed to be amongst hostages. earlier we asked her what she makes of these negotiations. i try not to pay a ton of attention to it until i think it's real. we've gotten our hopes up. we know that things are fragile, and we're just waiting for something to be concrete. the fact that for hostages have been released and one has been rescued is amazing. it's better than nothing at this point, but it also feels very challenging that we have to fight to continue to make sure the hostage issue doesn't get lost. and the people move on this, you know, yesterday was the international day of children. and we didn't hear word from you in a staff. we haven't heard word from any you and, or global health organizations regarding sign of life or medical status of anyone.
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and right now we feel like we're unsure how the world isn't screening on behalf of the hostages, as an american, and it is rarely and a human. we're sad about every loss of life, but it feels like the world is not screening hard enough for these innocent civilians that are being held hostage a. so is abby, on an american is really relative of gaza. hostages, who spoke to do it with you earlier today. now for more on this proposed deal that looks like it's on the table, i'm joined by the w shawnee. rosanna shawnee, one more. can you tell us about these? possibly 50 hostages that are set to be released and, and what timeline we're looking at for them to be set free. well, 1st of all, on everyone's just mentioning, you know, some of the kids that we need to keep in mind out of the 50 we're discussing. only about 30 of them will be kids. 8 of them will be their mothers,
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but is really ports of for the kids. in 13 mothers sorts are going to be around. probably 10 kids in 5 more mothers that are staying in the gaza strip. the other 12 hostages to be released are probably elderly women, some of them also with some health conditions. it still leaves a lot more hostages in the hands of most, most of them, soldiers, men, some of them elderly, over 80, with health condition. and hopefully israel is hoping that what they have set now is a formula with a how much that allows for every day of ceasefire to tent up to 10 to 12 people to be released. and hopefully it israel, it will not end with 50, but can maybe rise up to 80 hostages for about a week of ceasefire, which is what, how much is very much interested in. and it's probably the key to this breakthrough is real claims that it's hard pressure on gaza on the northern part of cause. it is the determining factor that lead time us finally to agree to a deal because they need the time of a ceasefire. we don't in order to regroup in order to replenish their resource winds. and obviously most of all they need the fuel that israel is promising to
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deliver as part of this deal out. not everybody in the yeah. who's governing coalition is on board to chris this proposed deal? could they still block it? no, they don't have the numbers. um. it's also part of the political game they're playing . this is the more extreme right wings of the party to and the americans know of that is it leaves no of um and that's also partly wanting to know extend to this government and brought more moderate forces into the government because he knew he would need more you know, forces to be grounding his decisions when it comes to this operation in gaza. let's keep in mind what we're talking about is real cabinet is now voting on this deal. that will be opposition, but it will get the majority of votes. then there are 24 hours for appeal, so there is really supreme court. is there any people among is really, maybe families of those were not supposed to be at least maybe people connected to some of the prisoners. israel has
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a policy and prisoners are going to be released as part of these deals. if they are victims of families of their victims are interested in appealing to the court. they can do that for the 24 hours. and israel is hoping to see the 1st release sometimes or on friday, maybe saturday at the latest. so this is the time and we're looking at and this is still some time also for these really idea of forces to get ready for the ceasefire . that's going to put him a bit more vulnerable so they need to be protecting themselves better. that's going to be happening also in the next 48 hours. exactly. because it is very much in israel's interest to get as many hostages out of gaza as possible. but how dangerous can it be for the i'd yes, and for the operation in gaza to allow him us to regroup, refuel, kind of gather themselves, you know, in those 5 days that work? well, i guess, but this is actually a great time. and because so far they've been operating in northern part of the gaza strip and they were planning to go into the south. so this is exactly the half point for them. also we need to keep in mind when you look at is really politicians statements. they are talking about
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a long fight again. i'm also talking in matter of months maybe up to year. so in the greater scheme of events, there's these few days this week or 2 weeks of, of the expected cease fire. they don't see to be such a crucial element in the overall, you know, scheme to a nearly tomas as rule in gaza. this is the really is really see it. and this is also park you, i, her mazda is look, thinking into this deal. they want to stall as much as possible, if they can use the hostages in order to deter israel some fighting. they hope that you know, by the time you know, the longer it takes for israel to restart later is an advantage for them. and also they hope the international community will say after 2 weeks or 3 weeks of fits his fire. okay, let's move on. the siding phase of have, you know, is, is behind us. let's try to find out the solutions. this is partially the assumption what, how much is going for this deal? you have a loss and israel, the warring parties, they don't talk directly, is great hostilities and lots of mistress correct. so how did this deal come about?
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well, the key player threw out in the last 4547 days of, of this. what we're seeing is caught our, you know, this very tiny golf country. you managed to become a critical player being great life for the us, but also for a mazda. this is, we're also how much leaders are based and sponsored by cut off. throughout the years, they are the chief negotiators, but egypt, the neighbor of garza and israel is also a key partner. they're helping the technicalities because they're the ones sharing the border direct motor with casa and during the back and forth. they have a lot of experience with homeless and it's the meters throughout the years. so many ways not to directly speak, but it seems to be finally working. this is also why there's a lot of hesitation, a lot of carefulness and israel. many of them have the politicians still saying nothing is over till it's done. even if some us agrees we do not trust from us. we'll deliver up because there are no direct negotiations. and there's always the fear of what's going to be happening until this is done until the 1st is really,
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is a back at home. no one's going to be the, but this is actually happening in israel. now, when we just saw it before, we started talking, intel, of these people are out on the streets, demanding netanyahu's government do more to release all hostages. now the pressure is very, very high. is this potential deal going to do much to ease that pressure because as you met and at the beginning there will still be some $190.00 people in the hands of home us. there's no doubt that the soft spot is the kids and the, and the mothers, a young kids, you know, youngest of them was 9 months old when he was kidding up. now. he's already almost 11 months old. yeah. they are the softest spot. and so in that aspect, that will be some pressure taken off, but at the same time, it's a split country. they're still the voices, they are against this do as we are speaking. and there's a lot of families towards knowing that if you have a soldier, a man, you know, men and women that were soldiers, that will still left the home office and pens. you know,
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israel in the last 47 days is grappling, what would be the victory? what would be the moment, which is what i can say we have now the upper hand. so many people, it's the release of all of these 200, almost 140 people home and this is not going to change as a part of is really access and charts have been driving these really society and its values to our history. so the pressure will be on question is, will israel be able to still have some leeway in the military aspect while trying to, you know, find progress. that's it to be seen. that's going to be very hard for israel to manage to balance these to fighting homos. but at the same time, the goal shooting for more releases shining rosanna. thank you so much. always great. welcome and we can now take a look at some of the other stories making news around the world today. this is really forces have read of the largest refugee camp in the occupied westbank outstanding media are reporting that
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a child was injured by his really gunfire during the attack on the a lot of camp in the north of the territory is really military operations in the west bank have searched since the mazda attacks and october, 2nd. lebanese media are reporting that 3 people, including 2 journalists, have been killed in and is really attack in southern 11 on the island while you're doing television channel, said is really forces had deliberately targeted as reporters. these really military says it is looking into the incident. what you, what, what are you in the south african president, sarah, from a poster has accused israel of war crimes and act attempt amount to genocide, as he called them from a virtual brick summit president from a post on his fellow bricks. leaders released a statement calling for an immediate cease fire and gaza. the group of major emerging economies includes russia, china, brazil, india, and south africa. supported 10 years ago today,
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ukrainians began mass protests in case against closer ties with russia. they became known as the euro lied on protests and help set the stage for the current conflict with moscow. germany's defense minister has paid a visit to keith to mark the occasion. and under line berlin's continued support for you can keep central my done square is way ukraine's pro european protests began. 10 years ago. germany's defense minister, both historians pay disrespects that to those who were killed during the ensuing violence. you get here all night come here again. firstly, to pledge our support, unexpressed, so some a diety, deep bone and admiration for the break, courageous battle that has involved such heavy losses to the protests that later became known as your own. my dad began here 10 years ago to the day. it's boxed by the refusal of ukraine's criminal and friend, the president, vic, toyota cove. it to sign an association agreement with the european union yellow co
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which was eventually forced to resign, but not before sending in the special police units to break up the protest. kemp, those killed, have gone down in ukrainian history is by having the 100 of loose but when ukrainian students raise the european flag in november 2013 shots were fired. it was the 1st time god was billed for european values. ukraine's president also paid homage to the memory of the protest, as they say they will give them 10 years ago. ukrainians began the 1st counter offensive against lawlessness and attempts to rob us. of all europe and future ways go. my boy, after talks with his ukrainian count about bodies pistole, this unveiled to fill the aid package for keith. as russia intensifies as strikes on its neighbour, the future of leading artificial intelligence started up behind chat g p. t is in
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jeopardy with hundreds of its staff, threatening to courts over the stocking of c o 7 altman, the board of open. i fired mister archman unexpectedly on friday. he then announced plans to join microsoft open. i biggest financial backer to lead a new a. i a research team. now employees are warning they will leave and follow altman, unless he is drawn back and the entire board result. because significant, we have a situation and open a. i continues to evolve rapidly with potential implications for the future and the entire artificial intelligence industry. let's talk about all of that with technology journalists to raise a locker. there is a huge chaos over the weekend, and things are not really showing signs of coming down. but 1st things 1st. why was sam ultimate fired? as we still don't know, the explanation of the board was an extremely compact message with which was also given to the staff of some open a i, which basically just said he wasn't being candid and the communications with the
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board so that they could not satisfactory. the make the decisions are um, elaborate on how the situation is going to play out. we don't know what exactly happened. and i think it came as a surprise to most of service. mm hm. and it's, and shock waves through the tech world. what could be the implications for open i as a company, but also the sector as a whole? well i do think a kind of will mark the end of a very break neck speed of the development of um, super promising apps like to keep the t or to be to for the has been a bit of a cultural divide within the community as into should we accelerate this even more, or should we take a more cautious approach to containing these maybe one day is super
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overpowering ai systems. and just last week, at the developers conference of opening i so up on announced that they wanted to introduce a custom sort of app store with which you can as a developer, builds your own g p t with basically 0 coding knowledge. that is, of course, a step more in the commercial direction and the question arises, will there ever be somebody who to moderate all of these new attributes? he's coming up. so i think with open a, i basically non existent right now with all of these people threatening to leave, maybe they will rebuild it. and microsoft, the microsoft, of course, is a monopoly is a very slow moving company. and it's also a regulated company which may make it look very different. yeah, we'll get to microsoft in a 2nd, but i want to talk about the, the person that is sam altman. first hundreds of open
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a i employees have threatened to leave the company and response to his allister, why is he such a revered figure in the company and the industry as well? he's very much an products person. he is a person who spent his last. we're also just going around the world talking to media, talking to lawmakers about the dangers and also about the possibilities of a i. he is not out of touch with the dangers and the chances that this technology poses. and so i think he has a very much measured approach, but also a commercialized approach that also one him tons of invest the money. now experts believe that microsoft will emerge as the big winner out of this term. why? why? well i think for now such an adel um,
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already looks pretty smart for just having offer it basically everyone who is ready to leave open a i a home back if microsoft and you could also like see that reflected in the soaring of the stock price of microsoft, so in the long run, we will probably see if open a i can reconfigure itself at microsoft in a way that's out. altman. wanted to be because, you know, previously he was very much doing his own thing as a free thinker and bills and with the, with the charity and the opening. i but, but i think in short term microsoft definitely is playing out to be the winner of like building a haven for some up on and of all of a supporters that open the i fascinating stuff that was to raise a locker. thank you so much. thank you, i and
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