i storing mother in law styles and committed to a name where he left his trees meeting during the 3 week dw, the. it's not getting the headlines these days, but the war in ukraine has lost none of its intensity with both sides anxious to make games before the winter impedes the movements on the battlefield. from the do i can use capital vilnius. my guess is the problem, is that in good that she money say? what i think is the most to show is that the country stay committed to providing the brain with what kinds of needs the financial positive needs. everything needs the when the will as the will goes on. how much grace does she have in major plans for defending the voltage states. what about human rights and accusations for the border guards have been legally pushed back?

my goodness. along the frontier with, by the rules and why take on by doing the diving this you and use relations with china. off to taiwan is allowed to open a representative office in the country with its name attached to it. what did you want to prove? you're very welcome to come pick time. oh, thank you for having me here right now. the new middle east conflict is dominating the world's headlines. how vital is it? that's the west stuff. sometimes it's i off the bone and you pray. well, it is high. so, and it's just the message that my colleagues from the government myself and also that like mine is the country keep repeating, but i don't really think this will happen because of course it's so complicated to sort of work on a couple of problems. and it's natural that the new for that you information that comes from israel is a guy who is most probably all taking all the public to the public space and that

the media coverage. but on the other side, the, uh, the, uh, the problem i think underlying in both cases you brain on and, and, and as well. and also it is related because what, what we see here are both both bookcase. this is the fact that some of the people think that they can just brutally by flores, rewrite the rules and dictates the democracy. do you worry the, those countries supporting you crying with weapons and ammunition might be less inclined to ship the supplies to care for? they've promised the preferred baths to keep them from themselves. i don't really think so because i think that most of the country do understand that the problem is long lasting and it's not about you know what your ship hoping you promised to to bring on, keep it for your phone, but the problem is much wider. the problem is a long time on the financing, on the uh, on,

on the limited uh, situation of the defense and security in the most of the countries who, uh, position that you know that there, there is no real risk. and there are no real types to, to security, may be targeted, but not the, i'll try for the, i'll try military fraud. and of course, the brain has changed this understanding significantly. and what the countries need, they need to increase that pension. so that'd be fine. some security, so i think the baltic countries have the countries in the region has done years ago . and, but for this you need also to increase the capacity of the military capacities within the month. but these do have to produce 1st and foremost at the equipment they are telling me i never think what is needed and this is not you know that you can save on account of your brain and sort of feel, feel safe, are just much why the is this was much why the things that need to be done in the

democratic world when it comes to the battlefield in ukraine, were you hoping for better results by now from the pregnant forces as well? you know, uh frankly, i think this is uh, something that people would say it was uh, uh, come on, i'm just finding. but on the other side, uh, we must think, uh what, what's the rough shop allowed to do? uh, during the time that the rain was not given and was not prompted to even uh, to be given the watkins it needs. because the level of winding the level of a sort of problem that was created for, for the premium army within those couple of miles was so huge. that cost is a very hard work for your brain to, to break through. um, even more difficult. but when winter sets in, so everyone's in a hurry, the battle seems very finally follows, but the moment is not your impression as well. well, my impression is that the,

the changes in the, in the, in the board a lie has, if i might say so long. not huge. and of course rationalize, trying to now to raise some of the new attacks in, in, in, in the regional mode and, and, and the new regional coupons most probably to, to draw the attention of the, bring an army from. the problem solving from this home are and this is uh, this is the way, i mean, what russia will not count as losses because it doesn't care often lost his brain. it just like a huge challenge given by the just small country. it just the democracy has to charge lots of off and so in the end, yes, the winter winter time will be much more complicated than the summer and nor them everybody understand that. but i will still say that it's not for us, you know, to make inclusions or to make judgments on, on them. on the success of bringing an army,

we just need to be patient that we need to provide a grain with everything we can. and uh, and do everything we can to support the see that side forwards, independence, etc, territories and type. let's talk um, if we may have bought these you, of nato unity, especially since it's being reported that you might like to be the next nato secretary general. i don't know what you sorry about that, but perhaps you'll smile says everything in you and you spoke of the global forum and telling me even you set the war, have cemented the unity of like minded partners across the world. europe, nato. the whole democratic world has never be more united and we must uphold this unity. in that case, you spoke a little too soon. vince you problem turns against do crime said last month. it wasn't supply any more weapons off of the current contracts. right now we'll have to see what the new government does. hungry won't ship any. it's old number as, as the back here. not one round of ammunition more. that was the campaign soaking

of the non rubber to feed. so who set to be the new prime minister? so this is not that unified, is it? wow, my, i'm a politician. so in most of the cases i separate the political republic, especially when you know that the elections main from, from the, from the beach on the, on the ground. and it just not made so that this providing uh weapons and not to read to you brandy and uh, do you bring it in for it just comes from salt major or just members of nato, depending on what, what, what every country can do and isn't a profession to do, i will remind you that from the beginning of this wide game and vision like many countries, we're not in a position to provide any legal weapons to frame and the to the board to us. and it took a sort of this that's uh, understanding go all the time that's happened in the district of kia,

who's with some of the countries to, to, to change his mind and then to deliver the next range of i was that was so much needed. so it is somewhat a different situation because it was never like uniform the same and all of a sudden now some countries are not doing it on the union union is not the military law in your union. it's more they have support for a, for a, for your brain, just sustain and solve the budget to support the financial support. also supported the fifty's and up to now all the decisions that needed to be taken for the support of your brain. how by the, by the countries, by consensus. so uh yeah, it is not less than to know to, to, to, to, to less than somehow uh, sometimes those internal debate that happened. but when it comes to decision making,

i will not be about pessimist. where are you on the issue of ukraine's membership of you and nato image of the accession to both organizations? oh, it's the most probably easier to say about the you because the process is rather horrible . and there will the evaluation off of your being commission upcoming. this uh, this autumn about how successful successful countries, why not only your brain, but also, although i know there's in implementing the interim steps now they have to take to the full day is talking to negotiation so, so they're fighting for european body. they're fighting for democracy and so that it doesn't, that get taken into account. well, you know, you should not off this live union prime minister because the union prime ministers before my how many prime ministers and they're all,

what bidding for the geopolitical interest. all european union, just having a frame in european union before any invasion was thought, even before i knew that before 2014. so no, they might hear, but the foremost that's not will still be taken. and if it's much clear, if you ask me my understanding, it's very simple. it's just all interesting to you right within the european family, same as with the family, but all this or these consensus around the table, so it will take on. let's go back to nathan's, july, somebody's in your capital values before and what underway. your foreign minister, cold, publicly for dates, way points as the product. so as to tie down your credit, your membership, but it didn't get any was it was not as frustrating for you as it obviously was to you guys, presidents, the landscape. it's a blessing to,

to understand that. on one hand, there is a declaration that you praise belongs to may till finally in some broad future. but on the other hand is due to how this notion of uh uh, one of uh, agreed. and the condition is not met with the way you do not know what, what exact conditions are and in the minds of the, of the problem and focus formula. but i think uh the brain every day, that is so the price for the rights to be to belong to european union and nato. and this is something that the countries need to take into account. so of course the debate will continue until upcoming washington summit. but of course there are, there are countries that would the, that's what, so maybe they stopped it. but this is not the, of all the countries. and what exactly it does, you can walk away from this much hide summit security guarantees from the g 7

countries for now that pretty much worthless. andre, reading the small print, the only from commitment by the g 7, was that in the event of a russian strep to ukraine, and then for the immediate plate consult with kia, to determine appropriate next steps, a consultation more than 600 days into the largest conflict in europe since the 2nd world war, and you can can rely on what a consultation that's pretty self thing is there. i think your brain can rely and will rely for the foreseeable future on the real support on the ground from the partners military support the financial support. and it will be able to support the country needs now, not in, you know, in, in the future. in 10 years or in 15 years, because the business model that your brain was as well. and what i think is most crucial is that countries stay committed to providing the brain with weapons with needs, with financial funds, with needs, with everything it needs to. when the best of the dogs, but they won't do that,

they will come to supply the weapons. you know, so far i have no doubt so far. but looking at the look. 7 that is the best from uh, put in on the electron changes in, in many countries. so 57 percent of your time use media evolve. you know, uh, really there's a bar like in the us and all we are like awesome the western democracies. they all just terminated because they just comfortable for us or 5 years i'm doing away. and of course this is you bet on, on the, on the change of political cycle. but i just think that this is that a real, i mean, this is a realistic. i don't think anything will change as let's look if we may add some negroes planning to display your wage and the voltage region last year. your opposite number and estonia kaya carlos was pretty scathing about nato's defensive strategy for the baltic states under the alliance. as punk block, she said estonia,

would it be wiped off the map by any russian a bronze? even if the intention was to lose estonia and liberate that later everyone, she said, could see that this trip was concept. doesn't really look, since that statement has nato done anything to rectify the situation? yeah, a lot. because new defense plans have been approved uh before. so what before, but for everyone doing business nato summit and the line is uh, sort of based on the, on the real world assumptions. and it is, uh, it is a real defense plan. i will do the site. and of course, the approach all the partners, uh, because we have the multi countries all invested, you locked all uh into all the friends and security. we all have all of the plan spending well above uh, 2 percent to do to be that is. busy right,

because it falls off before make a whole national member state. but of course we are so small countries um we rely on um, on uh, on the support of our partners and also on the bill. what's on the ground that would be present in that. and in all countries, the physically and to most of my decisions i think of this is, might have been taken by a kind of government by the government, vault german, germany. uh. and we are speaking about to the location of the gates of the, you know, within a couple of years. and so this we are building into the structure and uh, uh, and the big big capacities to, to, to welcome the uh, the german troops as a host nation. so i think a lot is happening on the ground. you run, you say that you get more german soups and a couple of years. maybe brigade strikes out spots a long time given what's going on, isn't it? um, well, you know, you have been pressing hard to get these troops now having to and how many has been

dragging its feet? isn't that right? no, i would not agree with you because what we were discussing about. ringback the apartment and station and go with the military exercise based. busy station india or whatever on, on call, or depending on the situation increase on the, on the ground. so, uh, there is a significant increase all the partners on the ground now, and this will continue. there is a significant result military exercise of happens in the region and it is very important. but for the long term, there will be a significant increase on permanent presence. and i think this is this a social if you have a one that is what would really happen in russia and directory attack. and they tell me, remember, since every decision, as you say, requires consensus. how does that move inside the member countries to suddenly agree on what to do with a major event like that? what kind of response did they give? what level, what weapons, what warnings. um, a lot of people seem to assume that article 5 is a,

like an emergency call and you dial up and the cavalry arrives. it's not like that . is it? oh i would say about uh, i would agree with this slide down about the article 5 uh more a couple of years ago. i would be more it's more a couple of years ago that non board now because this is amazing. the annual pride of 24 february 2022, also uh 5. as a way to pull all the countries that were talking, there was a real, real mandatory fred, i mean we have this debate all the time. as you most probably know where both the countries my saying, you know, this is not about drawing much on the box. it's not about complicated history. it's about the reality that the receipt in russia happening where the country is becoming more and more imperialistic. and so instead of giving the people

of prosperity and economic growth, they will give the people propaganda and, and who are also also come through. and this happens. but i think this is, this was also a week, a goal for nato as an alliance. and many things have to use and then sweden and finland decided to best for me to membership. and this is also a change in the, in the security of the region given back to a couple of years ago. nobody would have thought about 11, even reading your power point joining nato. now we have a new defense blind. we have new uh, new ledges for, for, for uh, what's on the ground. and i think this is, this is my for now the immediate danger for you and your region seems to be from hybrid wall. so things like damage to critical infrastructure. we sort of a bolted connect to a gas pipeline between filling in the stone to which i sprung the mysterious leak.

um, earlier this month, do you have any doubt that the pipeline was intentionally damaged? oh, i have my own theories by the and under the circumstances where the investigation isn't going, i will leave my uh, my yours to myself. and of course, we will wait for it cuz you know, uh, conclusions by finishing this don't you know how valuable does this incident make you feel? and i think what is important is what we saw also and you find last or the best that the technical infrastructure on the market and everything about this related to the 5 is the values is something bad with an account to get. but she told us that easily as no, no, no boundaries have no barriers to this in a cost. this is also uh check situation where you can show that a company should feel more comfortable or should feel that they cannot control everything. that is part of how to use it to control everything and whatever,

and what have them across the country. but of course we also uh learn our lessons and we also make uh make our own calculations. so we've increased the maintenance of the uh, safety safety measures for our critical infrastructure not long ago when this invasion started. because we know that russia, in many cases, will consider or something like that, just for the sake of all sorts of inquiries. and finally, among the population funded to so the number of concerns the thompson of your above your government is observance of human rights among your board. us specifically with regard to migrant push backs. in august 2021. the counselors commission of human rights rights are expressing concern, the people attempting to enter this way and yeah, and then the regular matter may have been summer, labor tend to batteries in violation of your legal obligations. you run the backside month, say all the people are treated in compliance with less you ideas,

international commitments, several reports since then. have contradicted your assurance. um, why the reports simply roll over. are you missing phones about the situation by law degree? i don't know what reports you uh you refer to it, but i know what happens on my border. this is i know from 1st time so to say. and i know that it was the can a holidays arrange. this artificial flow of migration to make a point again, poland. yeah, lots. we have to push them for lifting up. essentially. again, it goes autocratic, good shape or to, to make other concessions because he just, uh, found the way to do so. but i mean, uh, i know what it was submitted and the international conventions, but i also know that the board has all there and the boarders all that are, they should be respect. your constitutional court in june this year declared that

your detention regime of the board of it was in conflict with all to go 20 of your constitution, protecting liberty. so they ones are the happier than the the human rights commission. whether, oh, we're speaking about one particular uh, part of the law and this part of the law is now on the bottom and the amendment, the bottom. and this is a regular procedure that happens in the country where somebody uh, refers to a constitutional court and constitutional important. sometimes the permission over legislation is not the, which is what happens then. the legislation being amended advocacy international says within 2022 alone lithuanian border gods pushed people back to bellows moving 11000 times despite the risk of torture from officials that did you know that oh, i know there was a number of attends to illegally across the border company every day, i know that there is a possibility to launch

a request for political asylum in the border crossing point. and this is, i think, the procedure that should be follow to people once a real political and refugee, i'm the 11000 push backs as well. the number of people is not equal to the number of people who are not the same people attempt to cross the border each and every day. my 1st back, sorry, legal, legal, under international law and i under you law. oh, they are not something that to that we find very convenient, but we have an extreme situation because on the increase of the migration douglas orchestrated by the shop in our neighbor. so you're saying that just if i push backs, i'm saying that we need to protect the borders of europe in union partners. so let's talk briefly if we met about your poor relations with china, which took a dive when you opened the taiwan representative office

a sort of quite as i democracy 2 years ago, much to china is discussed where you been deliberately provocative for what, what, what did you hope to prove with this? oh no, we just opened the office now functioning, getting most issue europe in countries. but so you knew that it would upset. uh, uh the chinese um was it was it was, it was picking a fight with magic. you didn't get that much support from your, your own president said it was a mistake. it's not about the upset. i think the thing the chinese because it's the foreign decision off with union government to increase its relations or intensity of its relations with 500 people. and i see no problem there because it operates. and i think most of you repeating countries, the only question was that there was no new office is open in the recent like 17 or something years. but why should the union government know do this because it was

not done in the reason 70. yes, i don't know because it was how it is operating in so many european countries. so nothing seems to be that you wanted to teach everyone don't tech to around pa full countries. that was a mistake. perhaps people made with rush, it was it and you wanted to give an alternative view. oh, i think that with rock shot. so you might have all the all talk receives. we have the same, the same problem because it is not that you can push the way the other side, like speaking, you gently saving that phase is doing something, you know, what is what we usually do in, in, in, in, you know, off of the wall. if you will be allowed to be pushed, then you will be pushed to the corner parameters. then i'm going to remind you said thank you very much for being on company. so thank you. of the

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