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isn't prisoner releases following hours later so many terry and aids will begin flowing into gaza as soon as that shoes and that's it from me and didn't seem finality for for this will have a world news update for you at the top of the god office in berlin from b and the news, the thanks for the recycling to this special hot spots in germany, dw travel extremely a bit the
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. this is the story of the international scans. the whole thing was so good from the beginning to what the client saw when they signed up to the end. everything was perfect. the one that i was scammed just so the money never went to the account. it was gone right away. i made a mistake just kind of tied up by steps you bills up to the point where people are ready to go live to mark stephen hanover, they're going to tell you a capital time for the time the off around 800000000 in damages. nationwide, up, so that's the number of unreported cases. you come close to a 1000000000 damages, the
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an ordinary call centers. try command central for $1000000000.00 scam this original footage shown here for the 1st time to fix the scene of a crime and it's perpetrators. young people who wanted more, these are the pictures they took in an exclusive interview. we spoke with one of them. we also tracked down the man who allegedly led the criminal gang that ripped off thousands of germans. he lived a jet set life while others paid the tap. the kosovo is a poor country. the average income is $4000.00 bureaus per year. we are here just search for clues and to meet one of the scammers. he explains how he and his fellow cost center employees, stone millions from unsuspecting investors and why he has no qualms about it
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and slips different, giving comfortable fathers support their families. but at a certain age you have to go out and work and bring money home. how you do it is up to you to aren't many options with their work as a waiter scanning, 300 curos, or you work at a call center and earn a couple of 1000. what would you do to adrian? not his real name is in his late twenty's. we meet him in a secret location in cost of all he's wanted by german authorities. but here he's 60 conversion. anyone who sees that kind of money would be curious so, so the knowing you can and that's just the photos of the perpetrators made available exclusively to us. they painted vivid picture. one thing these young people seem to have shared desire for luxury
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in this is a far cry from every day life in cost of all does this look susan's you shouldn't have that luxury at home. after the war, everyone struggled to put everyone did anything they could for their family. no matter what that was. that's what i did to the soldiers on. adrian got a job in the capital priest and he worked here in this building for several years now. vacant, used to house the call center, it was the hub of a huge scam. adrian speaks good german. that was his ticket in virtual reform. this is kind of a long term solution to groom, nesting and then determined by watching cartoons as a kid. after the war, there wasn't much on tv. but if we go to german channels like ro, 714 to super ordeal out termed on ones or symbol, just a watch cartoon series for kids in german who's able to resolve they started slow
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here, call center agents pretended to be financial experts and promised german speaking investors big returns on the stock market. back in germany, we meet with one of the scams, victims we've been in contact with a rica schneider, not her real name. for several years. she felt for the call center scan back then schneider wanted to invest her savings. instead she lost exactly 10250 ers. she since gotten back on her feet, but it's still stings. my goal is to, i'm spot in, migrate as fear was always that i would suffer from poverty and old age. that's why i was self employed for 20 years and didn't pay into the german pension scheme. i was always thinking how can i increase my financial buffer to provide for my old a just on little check. let's go back a few years. in 2018 or rica,
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schneider came across an online advertisement for a financial platform called trade and invest 90. the hook, by betting online on whether stock market prices would rise or fall or practice known as cyber trading. private investors could win big. i just would have done most, but the ad showed an example. if you invested 250 euro as me to you could earn almost 10000 bureaus within 4 weeks ago. with the help of an algorithm of adjusting con um retail. schneider took the bait. it never occurred to her that the advertisement might be a trap. one that had been designed to her internet users like herself and thousands of others from all over germany. the state office of criminal investigations are launch, can prove it. and this is their command central. from here, the authorities reconstructed the workings and structures of the criminal call centers. they dug through mountains of files, identified the perpetrators and documented the victim states. we spoke to one of
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the investigators escobar for the demo. i should know. there were 2 cases. i will never forget the 1st one is the highest single last enough for me to familiar with the man. the owner of a medium sized company actually lost 5500000 you're understanding from the money was meant to be put back into the company. so it was a good case of past time, a spare time, you don't inflation inside and you for mine. so putting slides on the 2nd of august and the polling cases this uh amount initially puts in a 160000 euros next. when not when say to send the perpetrators convinced them to give them another 170000. how many in done not my thoughts were baked, so i quit quinn last night. i'm not, i'm not successful, isn't oil. he couldn't cope with the loss psychologically. how does he took his own life? at the concepts the on the past, who the investigators were sure of one thing. what they were dealing with here was
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organized crime. fighting back was a dangerous job. we weren't allowed to film the investigation team. so we staged a re enactment at their work. instead, the investigators were tracking down the call centers in kosovo as well as in the czech republic, and the man suspected of running the whole operation. but while they were investigating the fraud but she kept turning let's go back to 2018 rico schneider signed up with the trade invest 90. she deposited 250 or as a big mistake, but didn't understandable one says criminal psychologist hel, game. she's an expert in the dynamics between scammers and their victims, as she's an experienced witness in the court for the place where perpetrators and victims often meet for the 1st time uses. it deals with fun men. people feel the need to do something with the money to try to increase it, perhaps to invest the well. there's nothing bad about that. it's something we all
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think about. so how can i make it as low as my modest existence understood, ma'am? but this impulse can lead people down a dangerous path. it's the same desire for more. that also drives perpetrators. most of making the comment needed a car better close and so long as all point you're a teenager, it's only you think about it, shut the door. i also had a new girlfriend at the time. i got involved because i wanted a better life lead month, which i understand. that was the moment when adrian says he might be team t, now 34 and awesome. s 30. according to investigators, they were working as a managers at the call center. one of them has since been punished. back to rica schneider. in the beginning she says she made small profits. when
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things suddenly stopped going well, she got a telephone call from a broker assigned to her by trade invest 90 a mind to yeah, it says quote them, one of my you said this is a good time to invest more because then you improve your chances of getting your money back into the company, that's one of us guys me to fix that. that's what i did to solve. based on of the most, schneider invested 10000 bureaus. within a few days, she saw her balance rise to 18000 bureaus, sought to support this lift as the whole way. i thought great, totally. this is going quite well. that makes sense. and then it really went up. of course i was really happy so. so then i tried to withdraw some money at 1st the withdrawal was canceled it and they claimed that i had canceled it, which i had, and then my account balance went down, radically kind of done, but just as quickly as it had gone up. so it's saying here for him at home thinking, i'll wait on the one. she started to research the company and soon found others with similar experiences. she realized it was all the fraud,
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a cleverly constructed lie. it helped me not to these questions. i felt ashamed, of course, because i felt for scammers, it's something you don't make a big fuss about this if you've lost money. but on top of that, you've been cheated. adrian and his colleagues for on the other end of the telephone line, talking to a rica, schneider, and other victims working for the silk line group. they pretended to be financial visits, their goal to get customers to invest through trade, invest 90 and other platforms, including option 888, zoom, trader, trade invest index, markets desk old mind. i would briefly explain the platform. this is where you can make the deposit. this is where you see your shares and so on. and just to get started, they needed the minimum amount of which was $250.00 arrows. each agent had their own approach. but if you deposit more, you will get an additional bonus from 0. her name is adrian wasn't or rica
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schneider's broker, but what she heard was similar. a hotmail said he tells me the trade invest 90 investments in different funds. so when one isn't doing so well, the money gets shifted to $1.00 that's performing better, lived 0 months of susan status. really say anything to convince the client to make that investment change or stories, government funded. i say i had worked in the stock market. i'd worked in england or something else and everything we said was made out to the curb and 90 percent of the time and weren't rico schneider's broker also managed to persuade her with his stories that's come on. we sat down to this, we actually came across was very credible. she was very relaxed and very confident it was involved. our conversations were often quite informal. i can reach the on the informal chit chat where every word is dishonest. that's on stock market prices funds being shifted all of it and completely made up the online platforms were
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wrecked. profit's a joke, the only people making money for the scammers. i didn't know that. how could me wanting to withdraw my money cause the problem? the victims money flowed straight to the criminal machine. meanwhile, the call center agents kept manipulating their marks. the 1st i wanted to understand the customer's profile. how much did they own this company? what could i use to get them to invest? what did you say to them have been dozens of single. made it sound as good as i could from the stock is yes sir. if you're going to make a lot of money. what, what do you do? it systems what car, when you buy, since you have a simple psychological trick, says be expert to do that. yeah. sog attendance, does he pass what's going on? so you must have a student all you have to encourage the target person to stop saying yes. yeah,
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i can do you want to earn a house one day? now nicole, do you want to do good been and especially top isn't. are you looking for an advisor? yeah. the on subsidies. questions for? yes. you, well, i have a chance of a lifetime business deal for you right here today until 12 o'clock. i'm giving you a shots that making your dreams come true. that's how i get the yes i'm looking for this much and this compliance, this willingness means then now ready to minimize your height. and yet invest here is just as you, the whole thing was so good times to keep it from the beginning. what the client saw when they signed up to the end. everything was perfect. perfect. perfect for the scammers, the call center agents cheating, unsuspecting investors out of a lot of money. adrian for one had no compunctions. even so totally normal, just like i was working as a way sir, didn't worry about the clients and the most to start with the case in the mood among your colleagues and cooling. i was always great.
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the the, the 1300 kilometers away is our book and here the criminal authorities wanted to stop the perpetrators and bring the scam to liked the apply this function. we have a large number of engine policies you have on those many victims of last every time and the phone so far it against life insurance policies and the all they have to take out loans will take side jobs and then shortly before retirement, a station not quite for the vendor by the control someone's name,
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the offices of bizarre alonda state office of criminal investigation. here investigators hunted down in cyber trading scammers, assisted by colleagues from austria and elsewhere in europe, from kosovo to bulgaria and the czech republic. some 35 rates were carried out in 5 countries against this one gang. and i'm dr. inside or so. that's why you know, based on figures from the last 2 years. and we estimate losses of around $10000000.00 euros across the zone and region due to the phenomenon of cyber trading fraud. if you look at the big picture, that's around 800000000 euros and damages nationwide chart and putting this out so that the number of on reporting guys is full. you come close to a 1000000000 in damages and i number the other shot. and the scam is still running on countless platforms, where victims continue to lose their money. stuff on funds. and his team began working on this case in 2017 with a handful of victims and 3000 bureaus in total losses. but it soon became clear
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that millions were at stake, and a nationwide investigation began. piece by piece, the investigators were able to reconstruct the scan. they discovered a complex structure, not unlike large corporations behind the scan. it worked like this. first, victims were drawn in using manipulative advertising on the internet. for example, an article about a reality business show that's been altered to praise the cyber trading platform. it looks real, but it's not similar fake advertising is still online today. the as an investigator, stuff on plans, notes once blurred onto a platform, many sign up and soon receive a call from one of the faith brokers to this one to the for the one i was fined for it all solution and i asked me to use the phone numbers from frankfurt, communication, germany's financial sense as to what to expect. in fact,
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they were quoting from costs of over check a public place during the 1st conversation to the call center agent. so asked if the person they were calling between either the injured party. yeah, was sold for don unstantiated and if they were willing to investigate on fiscal slice, delta transaction to provide some tameka to in this tier hop on within. i knew the plate stores could fit with the 1st transaction, the trump has been sprung. the after scripts for mine to just actually the target person who takes the 1st step because they go on the internet and then see on the zoom tray to sounds good, high profit. i know that appeals to me. i'm interested to talk some kind of an advantage for the pub chases have because they don't have to convince people past nicholas. hey, it's quite good to look at what you do with your money in this day and age. i already come with the decision set and tried landing on the website by itself. the site is already the result of the manipulation test, but of course the target post and come see that one of the investigators pretends
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to be an investor. i've now deposited the 250 euros. what's the next step? the fake broker wants him to make more deposits, so they step up their game. the investigator has hurt enough for now. he gets out. but for many, this is just the beginning. indeed, shaken and so lovely mazda 2, it's been like this. investments were made and the agents that the victims make profit sharing events, of course, appealed to them because they sold the value of that portfolios rise included, that strikes. so they were ready to invest more money, it looks good. so in this team, the agents also worked to build a trust. you must understand, we made small talk. we asked, so you married, do you have children? so these are, those are just, wasn't them. we also made up a story about ourselves to, to gauge my poor. for often cases where i helped elderly people set up what's up
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for the t v. they sent me emails. i need your help. and i responded. what can i say? they believed me 100 percent it does indeed with the legal and digital test commission does also do some context. the full they may contact. the offend does have to think about things like that. they have to under victims trust in order to do that. they have to react to the things they all told in such a way that bill to the feeling of kindred spirit. she says, i did so much. will these people have mentioned twice to help the helped with this . and that just came up on the obviously that goes beyond the scope of the fuels type of trade for business. but he did so much that he took on an emotional function for the everyday lives of these people have to model that weekly organization. i live from to like a logical tricks as old as the hills of the technical flight of had used on the
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platforms that was new years tips on that. the software. so i'll try you on the phone. what's the software was built in such a way that the real stock market price is, can be fed in the call center stock, could still decide whether the customer made a loss or not and try it. and so the customer making a profit and loss on these did not depend on the actual trade and the funeral deck with a power to decide on enjoy the rest of the call center. i have been the type of emma, the quotes, and i'm going to go to the skimmers made use of various tactics to keep their victims dependent. if they said it isn't good next to the you to basically look good. often ask the customers, for example, when would you like to decide for yourself just to see whether it goes up or down and let the client decide. then we'd say, see, you decided yourself and lost money. i mean, we can't do much about that. but we can help you out. nobody's called me, give me one day, and i'll research what is about to go up or down the road because of the start to
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those. and then we came up with something to say, go to gaston to do the promise. declines, it had a 99.9 percent chance of working from home learning is going on at some good of adrian also describes the pressure he was under at work and how we dealt with it. this presumed this operation does it some personally i just sat down and looked straight to us. my computer was only focused on bringing in more money. i would eat in the morning then have a shot of jigger and maybe one or 2 lines. there's an source, push a yeah, a mice to until came yes. that was interesting and close on on just to keep up with the amount of work miss the didn't doesn't hit finish it. so what do you think that maybe that would help me perform better for the best mama home, but actually it was just to make me feel a bit better. what's it gets over the fear that i would break the client from
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breaking a client meant i failed to get them to make an investment longer so. so the drums on the use of drugs and other stimulants is not uncommon, behavior for perpetrators just a shot. i'm just trying and as it is what's out and i'm not to fix those things, you have to produce the other person that you have to be in a good mood. you have to have great conversation, you have to when the other person over praise them, listen to things that you wouldn't necessarily like to you comp in the mood for that's every day. so if you wake up in the morning and you're in a bad mood and you don't feel like it, of course that will affect the quality of you're welcome by finished a move and if you're afraid of not succeeding because you're not a moral or criminal enough coke, drugs and alcohol can help you get in the mood for that some direction helped and didn't talk to again. so the call center agents often pressured victims like o rica, schneider into making more deposits. come on, i know some of them by once requested or withdrawal and then got
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a nasty message via skype. see how you put me in a difficult position. the sort of thing should not happen. you don't know. so if you request to withdraw without informing me 1st, while i'm dealing with your account, it can have disastrous consequences on the fluid. and that's, let's make this agreement to transfer the 60000 euros. now let's do 60000 oil. so by the schedule uncomfortable dentist among the arrives, we meet via skype and we invest 20 percent of the capital for the longer term. so we can make up for the last design. so you make them feel bad, step up the pressure up, just wait them to invest more than may come to promise. the 1st question will synchronize you that. so it went, if a client requested a withdrawal without talking to us 1st, we would have tucked them under. that's the kind of thing we were waiting for. because then the client would feel bad for making a mistake. for example, we'd say, because clicked on your whole credit is now blocked or frozen, so we can't use it for 2 months or a year. and so we need you to put in a lot of money and it's not on, you know, the most inclined. adrian says,
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the brokers had no guilty conscience, no scruples toward their victims. quite the opposite. when they gamble, you know, there's a chance you might lose. and if you're ready to stake something, to bet them the game and you lose, i don't feel sorry for that. you told people that the 99.9 percent chance that if you do this now, you'll make a profit. so how can you know, say if you gamble, you might lose the start. the stock market goes up and down. you can never predict what it is, what believe it's 99.9 percent certain i called some bars so people was stupid. i think so many lost. in some cases the consequences were extreme detective chief inspector plans. remember as one man who lost over 300000 years, the scene took his own life. when it is, i mean, this is a side note, the list of the individual figures for that i simply couldn't code for the
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for the perpetrators. it was different just to use and we would celebrate when we received large sums of money most of you have to go out and buy nice things for your colleagues. yes. and turned in a couple of weeks and drink some cigarettes and some going through. so we got for the time being the cost center in kosovo. we're still up and running. but in germany, investigators were collecting evidence and preparing for the 1st 3. it's on the international game. and downloads type pleasure and fear, but simply carried out single time use, such as in 4 or 4 countries. and so the, the biggest success was in book area to help. that's all i'm a guy. and then to do this when school indeed, because we managed to secure a database connected to one of these platforms, honestly, i didn't think we would be able to find the evidence like that initial. it's an issue. confident force tends to be on a slide show and the best scripted thought and position facing them on the flank bottles. the only
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t guys were already telling us we've struck go because the dates place that's so much in, in the lobby bung how to enjoy this. yeah, i get the investigators found records of the scams leave on top safety. sure. we will actually surprised by the records they've kept to the customers las vegas containers tom visiting quinn, and they said things like the customer, like a chinese dog and a pod sixty's twin window for planning the engine. that was that code language. the thing that a customer should lose everything right now it does take, we didn't get our list for the owns on next. the investigators set their sights on the call center in kosovo. in the meantime, headquarters have been transferred from the capital christian to the town of fairies like 40 kilometers away. there was a reed there to for the 1st time the investigator saw the inside of the coast of o call center. dozens of workstations spread over 2 floors. this footage of the
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raid was made available exclusively to us. we are currently slid, forced to and that's, that's, we couldn't imagine that there would be an entire floor dedicated to these tools and the lawn. i don't, i might be cool, said was with section level perhaps something like a back room dedicated system. the interesting you thought that was walking into a fully functioning company with 40 from 50 tasks and let people make calls to pile and into shots. you can shift in and they couldn't have imagined anything like in the shared it can be awesome. then the spring months. and unfortunately, the officers were empty when the rain took place. the scammers had been tipped off and left a message. as it was, they knew we were coming and wanted to send us a little greeting. the, the investigators were still able to secure plenty of evidence. they also searched the office of the 2 suspected cost center managers, the team
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t and us m. s. on the other side. quite sometimes i manage the close entering costs of us and have considerable influence of other areas such as advertising campaigns, as well as the platform software manipulation. let me pronounce your own entries naturally. cost center operations and payment. if the 1st doctor's really well, nobody was in the back loot system. you couldn't be in a bad mood or else you wouldn't be productive, misquoted you this list at the end of the year we always have to party. it was some testing gifts for every staff member to money wasn't an issue in the
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the even give us cars or if we worked well, gotten a lot of money. you have to motivate your employees or what have you. they gave you cause to reward, you performance, not on the cars, they give you whatever you want it. so if you said you like an apartment, then you get an apartment money, cars, apartments, all on top of the salary. adrian's monthly earnings says sensors to my best month, i made almost 20000. then you just forget you're doing something bad because how can i put this up? and when you have money, you can do a lot to have people around you. so you don't really think about whether you're causing harm to other side and as little as are sort of low money and status symbols overshadowed any sense of doubt. according to the psychologist, it's not only victims were manipulated perpetrators are 2 types of tests done into power tools just below the fact that i get a super call as a reward justifies my being here. and with that,
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so i can holly that what i'm doing here is criminal. that's the point. she's admission on the same mechanisms you use to convince the victim this. i'm a good rep useable investment opportunity for you, even though it's not true. of course, the head of the game uses on the guy mine up under i'm of what we're doing here is good for us because you get a good call or you get a lot of praise, which is out. you can improve your social spaces. starts was done because of started showing up with other people's money. the call center managers lead the way as awesome as will later explained. he had to drive luxury cars to show how great his job was. bosses orders the boss was keen on status, symbols himself, luxury cars, private jet, ready to fly at any time. a body guard mover laid, huff, according to investigators,
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he was the head of this multi 1000000 fraud group. born is our launch. he 1st appeared in public as an online gambling pioneer. our research shows he'd already been sentenced to 3 years in prison for fraud in 2006. back then he'd scammed almost half a 1000000 euros. small potatoes, compared to how much the bogus trading portals brought it with you know, find a whole, isn't it? on the surface hoover lane off was a small business man who lift the jet set like i believe use intelligence as well as a ser. i just wasn't and then again, no to a system, stop all bomb out and then i'll see if it was because that's within a also called his way thanks to his victims. monday should have he walks around the clock, a window in the walk i but when they have also a good time, please give me a i was always thinking about new ways of making a lot of money quickly on these without. so they'll savell by very few companies
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are all bad and i don't feel good for the in lean house, a private jet, a good spot for reviewing documents. the cyber trading scam was perfectly suited to his talents, multi month down. see if you couldn't tell you that he was someone who run in lots of checks and even though he looked at the numbers regularly and this, the finance is what, right? pardon me. he tried to influence his business partners or accomplices, to put more money back into the system. after all, he needed large sums of money daily to finance his luxury as life i'd say. so for nonsense. according to the investigators, he put pressure on awesome s and b team t. the last few days were really cropped. complacency is the 1st step to jump last . you should let the team know that the investigators work showed layhoff to be behind the 5 raked portals he denied it, but the evidence was overwhelming. within oh fun,
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let's take us on the client. let's go all. but these are clubs. step on the move. elaina was, i think, and we have proof of this, the head of the kind of conversation which always scholarly had influence over all areas of the support model as a son named he didn't shy away from threats of violence. like when someone missed the 100 k target that is defrauding people of 100000 bureaus. if he doesn't make the 100 k this months, he's out under friends will explain to him what she better not do. once he's fired . understood, you can tell them that okay, a jet set, life financed by thousands of unsuspecting investors. that's the story of a leading leap at uh he loves the luxury lifestyle and he made sure that he could phones as well. fine tongue. he drove expensive vehicles. so i guess he didn't buy them but rent them long. tough. so for example,
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of bentley overall. right. and actually, and he had to separate ones outside supplies. i mean, when he travel, he stayed an expensive hotel, the one that clinton does look, send this all. i'm doing the yeah. cause we also sold the toners credit card bills and at times a $180000.00 zeros a month for charged the very exclusive lifestyle. he made size the latest you, they're not going to take out the the dfcs. we were actually ready to arrest, overlay know, think christmas a new. yeah. and my problem was that he was, comes from the on the move he's, he never stayed in one place for more than the few days at all. but re news that he would definitely come to noise to get in the middle. and the general feeling fine. never mind it off. nice. just call nation more precisely to this 5 star resort in austria. lane off was a regular guest here. he rented out
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a flat and also sometimes stating the resorts master suite. he enjoyed being here according to accounts, he was not allowed or charismatic person, and never sat at the bar. but when he took a liking to someone, he was generous with them. that's what led him into the investigator's trap in 2019 the afternoon done miss. i'm blowing bentley actually called him in his blue pen clicking on in front of his rented flap. we went to arrest him there without resistance to show. he behaved like many faults to denying everything. at that point, he probably still assumed that his money might help him get out of the whole thing . so that was his last day of free and that stuff on a bus white. as on this, i talked to a license fire overland huff was jailed in austria. in september 2019, he was expedited to germany. the call center in kosovo continue to run for 6
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months after layhoff the rest. after the raid, it ceased to function. call center manager, awesome. as was arrested. in 2022. he stood trial and sorry, broken. it was a ma'am. it's trial with enough files to fill $866.00 folders. they had to be transported to the court by truck. the evidence against us an us was overwhelming. he confessed and apologize to the victims minus the onset us investment is the last, in my opinion, is the least he can do is apologize. it is because of the questionnaire. will he ever be in a position to repay the damage has the issue of my thoughts some time. or because schneider's case is one of more than a 100 that were not prosecuted. still. how did she feel about the apology? so you can let us on the as for him, it was simply a stepping stone to a better economic situation. so slow to luxury,
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probably considering the standards there so i can accept it because i didn't lose such a large sum. was wonderful. but if i had lost more money, i would probably have a hard time with the industry, at least in august 2022 awesome s was sentenced to 12 years in prison on multiple accounts of commercial fraud committed as part of a criminal case. his partner between key was also charged. an international arrest warrant was issued according to information we have. he still lives in kosovo, but the country does not extradite its own citizens. there's currently no trial in sight for him. we were unable to make contact with him. the most of the people in this photo are probably on the investigators list to every time they travel abroad, they face arrest a manageable risk. it seems of more than $400.00 cost center employees. only one is
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currently in custody since our broken a stroll through stuttgart rico schneider has origin off the money she lost of a scamarus. she hasn't exactly found peace. her inbox is full of new scamps. there's an influence involved in moves, i believe getting these advertising e mails, although i have never had anything to do with these companies, you know, they probably still have access to the database from back then and use my information. they're telling me i can make some money back again by making new investments is doing this because we let them come to. if it's unclear who these messages are coming from. it's also unclear how the centers have gotten their hands on rica. schneider is information and she's not the only one being targeted. escape kind of also, there is no way that these knights in shining on will retrieve any money. because the goal also is just to take money from investigators or largely in the dark when
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it comes to this new set of scams. and due to the sheer volume of cases they're struggling to keep up a new fraud. that's devastating for the victims myself. under philip, i'm 50, so this is what is the fact is it is this sense of control that i have my life under control, that i can determine what happens in my life. i'm is now it has actually been confirmed that i don't have anything under control is optimum. on the contrary, everything was taken away that i gave everything up full entirely for so we quickly entered into deep feelings of guilt and shame, neighbor's hair, a balance that my family has a balance that maybe my wife wants to know. how could you? yes. how could i, i don't understand it myself, come from this shame and guilt can lead to severe mental disorders, doable income, and overly enough pictured here on the day of his arrest. he will never be tried. his story ended in jail. after a year and a half in custody lane hoss died to this prison cell inside broken of an overdose.
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and july 6th 2020 the exact circumstances of his death remain on clear. he left no suicide. note one dead. one on the run. one in custody, was it worth it? awesome. as refused our request for interview. adrian, however, has an answer. was the this the singles. he knew that something like that could happen and was paid in proportion to that prison. if you are people who say you secluded bizarre and gladly go to jail for 10 years, if i get so and so many millions. so i wouldn't do that. but i also don't think it's that big of a deal. well, most often for some reason being the, yeah, this is shonda, it's a shame, it's sad that it's still operating and people are still losing their money. and of
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course, at the end of the day, i also worry about the perpetrators, what kind of situation they're in, that they have to accept this work. adrian has no regrets about working at the call center community. the studios you never know what it would be like if things have been different devices, literacy, but i know i would be much worse off than i am now. that's to who do you do it again? if i were in a position where i needed to do it, i would do this. i was never forced to do anything for me on the one since one of those investigators estimate that to date cyber fraudsters have caused billions of dollars in loss. as worldwide victims have virtually no chance of getting their money back. it disappears into criminal networks. tax havens and fosters pockets. we cannot control the wells the way we would like to take. there is always a certain risk factor in the end, we simply have to live with reason. i had a quick question. i just rico schneider and thousands of others wanted more
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and paid dearly for the of the the, to the point. strong opinions, clear position, international perspective. ukraine's counter offensive have so far failed to show significance victories. last time your nation and financial support from the west means ukrainians are dreading the approaching winter. this week on to the point we asked, failing against russia, can you create survivor board to the point? being 30 minutes on d. w. the
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. the business daily news slide from berlin guitar says that a troops between the israel m tomas will begin friday morning. a pause in the fighting will begin at 7 am local time in the afternoon. the 1st groups of hostages and prisoners are set to be released. while relatives of some of the hostages being held in gaza, protest intel, of be accusing the is really government of not doing enough to get their loved ones back.
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