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the, the, this is the, the, the news coming to live from berlin. the israel from us truce is now underway. trucks are entering gaza with aid as part of the deal for the 4 day pause. and finding 13 hostages are being held, being held by home, us are to be set free this afternoon. the
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hello and terry martin, thanks for joining us. a highly anticipated temporary spar between israel and him. us has been in fact now for about 3 hours. these are live images from the rough crossing into guys where a trucks have started entering the strip from egypt. b, this was a key component of the truce, which followed weeks of deadly fighting, sparked for the october 7th terrace, attacked by a mouse. although the truth is now underway, attentions are still high with these really military sounding sirens and villages near guys a warning a possible rocket attacks from the strip. let's get the latest now for a lot. correspond to tony kramer who was standing by for his in jerusalem, antonia fuel and aid trucks have started flowing into the gaza strip. what more can you tell us as well as you said, this is a key component of the disagreement. so we are hearing now from the military that
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just that of at least for tank is of fuel. unfortunately, because of cooking gas has been entering the across the street from egypt, they are to be transferred to you and you mind turning organizations in in garza. so this is an increase that we hope to see in the coming days of more trucks will be going in and also for the residents. now, of course in gauze, a 1700000 people have been displaced in the past 7 weeks. many have moved from the north to the south, there were a force to flee, and they will be now having a short respite. we have to say because we don't know the seats for supposed to be for 4 days. maybe it will be extended. so they have an opportunity, you know, also to recharge, but the problem is many of them will not be allowed to go back north as we
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understand, because the army says, you know, this is still an active war zone. so the 6 far has come into effect, so it did so a few hours ago or the 2 sides in hearing to it has the fighting stopped tanya? of the well, that has been intensive fighting up to the reported in gaza from the it's really sorry that had been some sirens as well. every observance before the ceasefire or the polls and fighting came into effect at 7 am. local time has been another everetts. are in going off shortly after warning of incoming rockets from garza to the southern communities. but since then it has been quite and it appears to hold for now. but again, we have to stress, you know, it could a break at any time. it's a very project, a situation fragile situation. indeed, how are, how are people in is real feeling now that the cease fire,
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the temporary so as far as underway? i mean the, the ceasefire or the polls and flooding is one uh, one step and its ro, most people are no really waiting. what happened? this afternoon, it's somehow a scheduled if you can talk about scheduling a hostage and a deal that should happen in the afternoon at 4 p. m. local time. if some of these of 13 hostages had been notified on thursday night that they lost funds will be released. it's very, it's, it's really an unprecedented moment here because of these for the mostly children and possibly the mothers or women that will be released. and this very, very 1st stage, this afternoon, they will be done brought to what's the egyptian border given to from us, given to the international red cross. and then transferred from the re understand
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a to as well. and then also further transferred a positively to the hospitals. um, of course is mixed feelings as well as you know there 236 hostages being husband garza. so this is the 1st step 50 hostages. according to disagreement should be freed over the course of the next days, potentially, there will be more, but again, there will be also hostages. as still that will stay behind and garza now as part of the ceasefire agreement. israel is also to release palestinian prisoners in return for the release of those hostages. this time us is holding. what more can you tell us about this palestinian presence of the but it's really hard to release the list of about 300 names of posting in prison is held in is where the prisons and we understand from colorado, that some of the names have been approved according to the agreement and the 1st
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stage, a 150 pounds of students should be released from prison. so you understand. some of them will be moved to a prison near a check point in the occupied westbank and they would be released back home. most of them will be released back into the west bank and of course families. they also preparing for this. we don't know how many of them will be released today and exactly when this will happen. but it's uh, you know, expected that this would also happen sometime in the afternoon. possibly after the 1st hostages will be released. so any, thank you so much. uh, that was our correspond to tony kramer in jerusalem for the families of those hostages. hell buy from us and guys of the past few weeks had been ribbon with the spare and trauma. now the truce could see some of them at least safely returned at last. after weeks of waiting,
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the families of hostages hope their loved ones. we've come home soon. i want to hope, i hope hope, hope that it's going to happen. we've been on such a roller coaster for the past. certainly the past a week, but since october 7th, between despair and trial mind hold. i just want to see the children come back. now, master group has agreed to release 50 civilian women and children of which 13 ought to be released and the 1st batch on friday. and exchange is really set to release $150.00 palestinian prisoners, mostly females and teenage males over the course of the truce. the deed, mediated by god, are also includes affordable and fighting in both the north and south of the gaza strip, as well as increase to monetary and aid. even though the agreement is considered a break to both sides have remained cautious about st. 2 months before it's materializes, based on certain circumstances with his thoughts and his truth. a main hope is that
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this humanitarian choose will give us all the opportunity to look into the bigger task which used to implements a permanent truce. i figured that the chief long lasting piece of it that you met with, you'd like to fix that um in in efforts are being made to extend the tools beyond the full day period, which is well insist it will resume its military operation and garza until it has eradicated thomas was cross over to mike martin now he's a power british army officer and senior fellow now and the department of war studies at kings college london. mike, the seas park has begun. how fragile is it? what should we be watching out for? or it's very fragile um, the thing that you need to look out for a site to be spoilers to the deal. so these are people who was interested in the deal. and they might be people within have us. so different functions of the to how much time as obviously as a cellular structure. so it's not like a, an all me with,
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with direct command and control and also other functions like palestinian islamic jihad, i'm, they haven't been mentioned to tools. so i don't even know whether that included in the day when they hold their own hostages. and they may also wish to scope of the day. so those are the things that we need to keep an eye on. what about the, what's happening on the ground there in the gaza strip is the, is really military staying there during this pause in the fighting? or are they expected to actually pull some of their troops out for now? i know they all, everyone staying in position. it is literally stopped firing even if you are, you know, a couple of 100 bases away from people that you've been firing out before 7 o'clock local time. i'm the one differences and this was built into the deal. how much insisted as part of the deal that the israelis would stop over flights of the gaza
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strip. say that they were able to move the prisoners without giving away the military positions or, or perhaps where the other prisoners were. and that is part of the deal surveys where a white be while the data is on, while the prisoners are being moved, won't be of the flying the thing, the northern parts of the gaza strip. okay, we're looking at an exchange of hostages and prisoners coming up. that's supposed to start happening this afternoon. walk us through the steps involved in that exchange. the way that it's set up in this deal. it must be quite complicated. so it's usually complicated the, the main issue is, trust me, the side trusts each other. so even if accidents happen someone's way and goes off, the problem is that the other side will assume that they're attacking and then the sci fi will be broken on both sides will need to bring prisoners to an exchange
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points. and we'll just use that will be on the border of the gaza strip. so these riley's that study easy, but how much they've got these prisoners dispersed that likely to be underground, and they need to move them. we just spoke about is what i have. if i need to move them to the exchange point without as well knowing where they come from. and when, when they get to that exchange point, both sides will want to secure the side of it and both sides will then set themselves up with a distance in between them. why they can show each other the prisoners so that they can then exchange them. it's horrendously, complicated and full with potential issues. both accidents and some of the school is that we spoke about earlier. so complex deal we're talking about here. it was weeks in the making a lot of negotiations. those negotiations took place in the hall, the capital of kata talked to us about the role of contract in brokering this deal, like they're planning and they spend a central role on to yeah,
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i think really it comes back to just terry. and the guitar is really the end of the day with the only side uh, the only the only access is really that both sides could trust enough to get this deal over the line. obviously the guitar is housed at times positive the how much leadership bought, because ours holes over the proceeding years, bill top, the good enough relationship with these ladies that they can act as a mediator. i think actually we can, we can see this is a role that guitar is see themselves taking on. they've played a few other roles like this in libya and in syria as a much lower level. and i think this is a role that they see for themselves in the region and on the world stage. mike, thank you very much for your analysis there. that was mike martin of kings college one. as
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well with me here in the studio is our middle east unless shawnee was on is so shiny. we're now into the cease fires has begun. it's supposed to go on for 4 days . at least that's the plans right now. it could be extended, we understand, but uh, what are you expecting to happen when the sparren's? well, 1st of all depends on when it ends. i mean, if this going to last only for, for days going to be much easier for is really, i guess, forces the military to re gain momentum to go back. they still have some parts of the northern part of the street. they, they say that they still need to, and it was clear out from, from terrace, what they say to tours, a tourism from us. and then we will see them trying desperately to go into the southern part of the street with the main goal. is eunice, this is where her muscles is strong hold is where lots of the leaders are coming from. that will happen if this only last for 4 days. good chances though, this won't last only for 4 days. you've already seen yesterday. there was a bit of
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a delay, but some of it is considered to be part of how most of the psychological warfare or some of the places that are trying to pull. they might try to do it again because there is a scheme that is agreed upon a formula which says that for every 10 days that how much is willing to provide and know hesitant as to how boss is willing to reduce israel is giving 24 hours more of ceasefire or from us come, says roland says actually we only have 8 what's now. i think it's gonna be very hard for these really leadership, you know, with the big pressure we see from the public for the release of hostages to say, well actually that's not good enough. we're breaking off a contact. so there is a chassis from us would try to leverage this hostage deal for him, enough for furthering, you know, to extend the ceasefire more and more. and then by that time, what, how much is hoping to achieve within 10 days, maybe even longer international pressure on israel will be so. so shoot is going to very hard for it to go back into fighting the world. in the meantime, we'll see the mass of the station and gauze us it will say that the real numbers of
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casualties as high as it is right now. that's too many, uh, you know, bodies buried under russell. it's going to be very hard for as well. and how much hopes at the end of it, to go back to what it's planning to do right now. you mentioned international pressure. there has been tremendous international pressure on israel to show restraint in gaza. their pressure has been melting on israel to introduce at least a temporary cease fire. now we have that. how much of a factor is international pressure on is real in making this happen so far? it was huge and his real played on it. they knew that the world wants to bring more human, terry and aided to gaza and they said, well, okay, we're talking humanitarian needs. argument here you need is to have a hostages released and we're going to use this card. this is our leverage. however, you know, we've seen a great support from the americans to european countries have been supporting as well. i'm not sure it's gonna stand out as far as once we've see we see the great devastation and also the biggest contention point is that
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a fight and really wants to see some sort of plan for the future of gauze. what is the end game after the war is over? who will take over if guys who will take care of the 2300000 palestinians living there is around this country. very reluctant to discuss that. and maybe if it brings out a plan, it's going to be able to gain more time to have a, you know, to have to complete its military goals. what about the families of the hostages? the gaza is, is holding a, rather than a mazda is holding in gaza. those kindly have been very vocal, very active. they've been pressuring the is really government to, are they convince about the is really government's priorities and the situation. well, for now. yes. but it's not clear what's going to be happening next. you know, i think the great consensus, the, the, the families, the young children in the mothers, the elderly women that should be released there is a fear that the, the, the war will not, is resumed a tax on presume these rel, military operation will,
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will cease. that's one fear, but then also at the same time, there's so many great dilemma, i mean, bringing back the rest. there will be at least a $180.00 left. at the end of this, if the 6 far is extended, bringing them back, most of them a soldier is buy a mazda physicians, even if, even if you're not an active combat, your can say, how much considering any male as, as a, as a soldier, we've seen in the past, the pressure to bring the soldier on is really decision maker is very, very strong. it's going to be hard for them to resist. and that will require very painful moves, but they're going to cost political support for an intern now. and today, unlike what he did in 2011 with a sheet deal, his government is run by extreme right parties. it's going to be much harder for him to go for a deal to bring swaps of. has the terrorist sitting in israel released against israel, the soldier the it is of these really prime minister benjamin that's off. now here
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you mentioned him and his government, his popularity is really low. at this point, their poll show that many is really simply do not trust him any more at this point . how much of his political career is stake on getting those hostages. so a lot of it, i mean it's clear, you know, israel has been debating with, within itself in the last 49 days. what would be the moment to discuss the victorious moment this could, they can take out. there's no doubt that without the hostages return, that's not going to happen. so that's a big part. but um, as long as the war is still ongoing, as long as it's active fighting, as long as there's so many draft soldiers drafted up, i don't think we'll see a lot of movement into political area. and once that is done, it's really hard to sell where israel to find itself emotionally, psychologically nationally, has so many factors. it's clear that israel is not like it was until october, 7th things have shifted. things have changed. the cards are still up in the air. we don't know exactly where the fall months. everything is over shortly. thank you
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very much. that was released that will show the results spill has. we've been discussing some humanitarian aid trucks have been entering gaza from egypt. this is the scene live that you're looking at right now at the rough uh, border crossing. egypt says $130000.00 leaders of diesel and 4 trucks of uh, of natural gas will be delivered daily into guys including $200.00 lawyers of aide, boosting the amount of a riding. and it also which the un and other agencies that is desperately needed in the territory. now let's bring in james denzil oh, here he's head of the conflict and humanitarian policy at save the children u. k. and he joins us from london. thanks for being with us. they had trucks are entering guys and now what organizations like yours hope to achieve wildest results
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. well, terry, we need to do so much. and inevitably we wouldn't be able to do as much as we would want because of the restrictions. both bureaucratic, legal, political, and physical in gaza. i think your images of the cause of crossing show a rapid crossing show activity lots. we've already got thousands of trucks load. if you look at the average numbers of trucks that would have gone into garza $500.00 a day prior to the horrendous events of october the 7th. so there's a massive backlog. of course, we've had almost 50 days of complete college and gaza that has had a huge impact on the population, 80 percent of whom were a dependent prior to the events of october. the 7th, we suspect that number is now up to a 100 percent. and the most important and immediate things that they need a life saving a so clean water, food and shelter has the goals or winter approaches still there we've, we've had which a been bar menton street fighting in gaza. how much of
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a challenge is it going to be to move the big trucks full of aid around inside the gaza territory, given that maybe the roads aren't even possible? yeah, it's such an important question. uh, the, the devil is in the detail when it comes to a logistics and it is not just the case of what is the oven infrastructure in terms of where trucks can move, where aid workers can move and that's not forget cause or is the most dangerous place in the world to be an aide worker over a 100 un 8 workers have been killed. so there is a question about where you can get to. there's also a question about where it is most needed. and in particular, tens of thousands of, of the kind of thing ins and children will remain in the notes of gaza. and that's a huge question mark. just whether this, this should monetary and pause the ceasefire. a short c fox will allow us to get to the people in the north who, who have been under the most intense part of the,
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the military. and it's all patients getting on that side where you can get to is, is crucial and who needs it. the most is also incredibly important. talk to us about the needs of the people in gaza. we know that it's a desperate humanitarian situation there. what, what do people who doesn't need most right now as well? the response needs everything will obviously prioritize life saving a because that is what you do in these kind of situations. there's other aspects to an age response that we didn't talk about because that's so far off from being realized, such as the fact that palestinian children in garza have had almost 7 weeks of, of no education. but we're obviously so focused on keeping people alive that that is where attention lives. understandably, there is large numbers of promising children who have suffered injury often life changing injury um, losing looms, being unable to walk again,
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having significant organ damage. huge question marks as to whether they can get the treatment they need from some of these new field hospitals in the south of gaza, or whether they will need to have referral overseas or outside of gaza. and then there's other aspects of care that we really need to think about. child protection as large numbers of children who have been separated from the family. there's unfortunately large numbers of children who have lost their entire family and reports coming in from hospitals of wounded children. nay, surviving relatives arriving at a and e. so child protection services, nutrition services, water and sanitation in a post world, whether was to supply was already she usually contaminated. and if you didn't, do you know that power, fuel and water back on, then your back to issues around people drinking you water and water born diseases, whether that's from your toilet. so see what else are all sorts of stories that we're hearing. so the aid response is multifaceted, we will need weeks to even start to address the needs of over 2000000 people in
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gaza. yes, of course be. and you have a matter of days. okay, we'll have to leave it there. james. so thank you very much for talking with us. that was james denzil, from safe, the children as well. here in germany, there is also hope that the hostages who hold german citizenship will be among those released many of the people kidnapped by him. us are do citizens, including members of one family from keyboards, barry, whose house was burned during october. some terror attacks are relative. told the w, the 11 family members were taken hostage that de 8 are still believe held hostage in gaza. 4 of those are german citizens, including 2 small children among the families hoping to be reunited with loved ones or some who have roots going back to the crimes of not nazis in germany, 11 members of the show home of the door, a family were killed or kidnapped by him,
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us the youngest, 3 years old. you wrote navy, and 3 year old the a hell siblings snatched by how most terrorist the whole family ripped apart? no, they may just be coming home for grandfather the lot. the beginning of the end of a living nightmare, i go to hug them, use them, and i of that and. ready they will be those be done in the 1st time to just. ready check up and everything. but i don't know, i don't know. as even single what they go to doing, what they're going to say. the family descended from holocaust survivors are among those. how must hostages to hold german citizenship last month, relatives travel to ballot and to pressure german officials to help bring their loved ones home. in the center of the german capital on thursday,
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street talk just drawing attention to their cause. a single exec, in the visa of our children on the these info bodies, this, the battery come us keep nothing shows we are dealing a site between this we should not forget it and 9 that should the whole well, despite guessing, without being on know all the families at the heart of this tragedy can do is wait . you are watching the news. just reminder of the top story we're following for you this hour. the israel home us, the temporary cease fire has begun. it appears to be holding, pausing, fighting is set to last for days and comes after some of the deadliest fighting in the history of these rarely palestinian conflict. hostage and prisoner releases our parts of the truce and they are due to begin later. today
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