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so socially and occupational the, you know, any kind of functioning. and then people just need a lot of time and a lot of loving support by their families who should be guided in the process and worked with because they too are traumatized. it's not just a hostage returning, it's for whole family, the whole community. to some extent, the entire country is traumatized. talking about the entire country, the release of the 1st hostages. uh, the imminent release has created lots of media interest at the public wants to know what happens. what can be done to ensure that really is talked to, is it hostages, will not be, believe it by the pressing are in a, in a com environments or exactly, there is a real danger that, that some people from the media may homes, these people and you know, do anything to get pictures of interviews and i think, you know,
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we can just explain and hopefully some of these people are this thing that this unwanted attention can be re traumatizing for these people who need to have their previously respected emotional space respective their pace of doing things respected their recovery times and it would be, you know, unfortunate if we needed to resort to like police man or, or guards to insure their privacy. i would hope that the media itself can promote responsibility among its members by explaining that this unwanted attention and, and then going after these people is just split system back further in whatever the country read. they are trying desperately to be able to make together with the healthcare bar to go straight to the trauma therapist from tele v. thank you very
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much for joining us here on dw needs. thank you very much for doing this by a steel watching a dw news 4 of us who are just joining us here as a reminder of our top story and this special program, this on a full day temporary spot in the israel home us will appears to be holding hostages, helped by the methods, and so expected to be released soon in exchange for post indian prisoners in, while thailand's prime minister has confirmed that 12 tie hostages have been released by. i'm off, you said embassy officials on their way to pick them up in the coming out. the release of time nationals is not a part of the deal broken by kata. it follows weeks of most intense fight to in the is riley. how most conflict. now for the families of those hostages, help bomb us and gauze of the past few weeks have been living with despair and
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trauma. now the truce fits see some of them safely returned. i've lost after weeks of waiting, the families of hostages hope their loved ones. we've come home soon. i want to hope, i hope hope, hope that it's going to happen. we've been on such a roller coaster for the past. certainly the past a week, but since october 7th, between despair and trial mind hold. i just want to see the children come back. now, master group has agreed to release 50 civilian women and children of which 13 ought to be released and the 1st batch on friday. and exchange is really set to release $150.00 palestinian prisoners, mostly females and teenage males over the course of the truce. the deed, mediated by god, are also includes affordable and fighting in both the north and south of the gaza strip, as well as increase to monetary and aid. even though the agreement is considered to
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break through both sides have remained cautious about saying 2 months before it materializes uh, based on certain circumstances, with his thoughts and his truth. i mean, hope is that this humanitarian choose will give us all the opportunity to look into the bigger task which used to implements of permanent truths live for you. but the chief long lasting piece of it that you met with, you'd like to fix them in, in efforts are being made to extend the tools beyond the full day period, which is rarely insists. it will resume its military operation and garza until it has eradicated. hum us uh we can cross over to across the been facility and who's following the story for us instead of these a ben, 1st of all, and we're getting reports here that one major hurdle the 1st major hurdle might have been crossed. what can you tell us to exist? is that would be the 1st big hurdle your correct uh, the transfer from home us and from the hiding spots. uh,
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to red cross work is the red cross workers admin to uh, s score these hostages over the border. the rep across the board crossing uh to egypt. square the id, if the is ready, military will then take over from there and uh, the hostages uh to receive medical treatment. uh, flown by helicopter. then. uh when they are based in israel and from then on to hospitals in the southern and central parts of the country. it's the big use. everyone here has been waiting for a huge crowd to be coming down here. uh today. uh, 2 different golf square to pay their respects to see the photos of the hostages here to light a candle, to pray for them. some people i've spoken to have just been sitting here looking at those pictures. one woman telling me she was looking at the heroes from state, from hom, us, others have come down to uh, uh, see pictures of they have friends,
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family members. everyone here knows someone, oh no results. somebody who's been involved in some way or other on october 7 or is stuck in guns or at the moment. um, i have a uh, uh, volunteer here with me or and bother to talk to about the situation. um, how has the new being today for you a very different day with so many people out on the streets for the 1st time in 50 days of what we are anticipating looking to to get to your good news about the coming back of the children just to read a quick reminder, we are talking about the 3 year old 4 year olds, 10 year old young children were dropped from their bed in the middle of a peaceful morning. who are we did? absolutely nothing didn't frankly, in the middle of the states fire, but when he's well and disposed of terrors. so we are just like hoping today to get them safe and well to save the young kids and the young families were destroyed by
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this brutal and predictable effect. on the, on our southern borders a lot of the must have been through so much and is still going through so much the anticipation icon. imagine what's been going through your head, um what, what, what are the feelings that have been that you've been experiencing today? first of all, it's our responsibility of the community to, to embrace the family, not just those of the young children and we'll come back today. but we also have almost 200 people, innocent people participating in it. and the peaceful party knew the board and were grabbed in the drag, 2 guys by, by both of the territories. and we should remember them. and did they offer young people and, and either some families were broken by this terrorist attack. taking in surprise by a, a group of feelings. so 1st of all, we need to embrace the families. we won't get to good use today. one,
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see their loved ones coming back. this is the 1st uh thing that we should bear in mind is, is riley's. secondly, we are, we are, we are praying for the safe recovery of this young kid. just imagine young children age free for 10, being tested by a growth of terrorist. it grad from the home. there were they were there, they were the ups in their beds. the 6 and half the morning it's, it's amazing. so we are just so i, i'm sure we'll do everything to embrace them to, to help them to mentally recover from this horrible, horrible thing. they went to. what do you think? do you think this cease fire will hold to allow them all hostages to be released? first of all, you can trust from us terrorist with proven in the covers 7 sprites, so you can do deals with them. secondly, i think that the, these are the government promise,
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and i hope they will send to the words that they will. one stop to every single office that will come back to is safe to his home. and 2nd, the destruction of this month, or uh, the come us months to from does the end of the recovery of these region from the old days time is real store fretting gonna this is amazing or, and anything else you want to add on this very important day for the nation. just just so our pray for the safe recovery of the young children and then i'll hope, deepest hope for the safe return of all our loved ones who, you know, people went to a fucking party, sorry for the language they went to. den, so we should remember this day that we have lots of youngsters and families and as early that are still kept it on the ground by this 3rd. then we should do anything, anything possible to do to bring them back home safely, thankful intel or embody thank you very much for joining us. as
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a very emotional day, as you gather, they get hot and a tricky one. a lot of people didn't want to speak to me today because they wanted to be left alone. they didn't want to speculate, speculate about what is going on. uh, it's a developing story and anything can happen at any time. a very tricky, complicated operation as well as one sold it down here. told me earlier today. pensive the reporting from tennessee. thank you very much, ben, and speak to you later. thank you god, i'm at least unless tanya was honest is still with me in the studio as any. let's just look at that. that piece of breaking news that has happened in the last few minutes. really the permission we have confirmation of a place to our phase. really 13 has really hostages up were transferred to the hands of the red cos they are now doing their way into the rough border where they will meet is rarely and soldiers and forces. and from there, there was a stone,
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into israel, and into 1st house checkup and from there to see their families. so this is a confirmation that's the biggest hurdle that was facing. no, we know how much does not the let go with that. so that was the biggest concern in israel, and if we could have put a big mike on top of these really areas space, we would have had a big sigh of relief today. i'm the, these nerves were, were of, you know, immense, the, everybody, one edge. and this is at 1st sign. the things are going as expected, a very good news for his realize it also we need to remember there was also a release of 12 types of citizens who were reduced or to date. shortly before these were, these were transferred to the hands of the red costs that shows us the mos, you know, throughout all these 49 days we're talking about, is it an emotional play? you are not. how much can you talk to? how much, how, how can you recent with it? it seems to be showing itself, we're interested in showing stuff to the world today as actually rational player
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you can talk with you can deal with and you can reach agreements with. so for that, you know, that itself, how boss has issued another goal that he's trying to set in keeping you know, a strong hold off of cause i'm saying we are here and we're here to stay. and that's something that is rose of course, and not to happy with, but they had to do with come us. and that for itself as an achievement for home us to out of as we're seeing a live pictures that of the roof on a crossing. the release of the search and hostages is taking place right now. uh, let me restate that, that in the hands of the red cross right now. uh that has been confirmed now uh showing you how is this release actually taking place or is it gonna go? so as they're moving now from the order in today's really can them shut them crossing where they will meet is really soldiers. from there, they were taken to the hops of the air base for a solo checkup, probably only video calls with their relatives. very few relatives will bill out at
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the base the, the plan is for them to meet with their relatives and the hospitals and the center of his where will they be transported by a helicopter as right after that. so it's about another and a half an hour and a half, 2 hours before they reach and meet their families in person. and that's the plan. now, at the same time, israel has released from the offer accounts the, the prisoners did the palestinian prisoners that it's kept. we're talking about um $24.00 women, 50 miners, and $39.00 in total. so the cubic formula that it was agreed from us is for every is really hostage, 3 prisoners release. and we need to also make the difference. you know, the prisoners of the hostages. they're exchanged but they're not in the same position in the sense that these are the palestinian prisoners. these are despite being minor and that's a different issue. they have seen lawyers, they have been through the courts, they have had contacts with their families and you know, they've gotten medical treatment. these are people who her have received dignity,
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you know, their dignity and their basic rights as humans. unlike the hostages, who are we seeing as some of the youngest 110 months old baby kidnapped from, you know, his bed with his mom and his siblings. and so that's, that's, you know, that's the, that's what makes it direct come a comparison. there it's, it's a different condition to receipts of release of people from different backgrounds. you mentioned the um, post indian prisoners that, uh, beverly is also on the way uh, how is that proceeding now? that's exactly what's happening there. now with the offer can see that throughout the day, they were transferred from the different prisons they were held in his way up to the offer came from which they will be dispersed mostly to the west bank and east jerusalem where they are originated from. we'd also need to keep in mind we were talking about how boss is achievement at many of the present as we will see the out of these $150.00 to be released and the next phase. they're not necessarily come us prison is not necessary to live with home us. but whether with the fact of the
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other organization that is actually dominant into westbank for how much this is a great victory, it's a great way for him to speak to show we are the only ones that care for the past that he has for the pulsing and preserves for the cause of palestinian statehood and you know, eroding even more the power of the weakening the spot to organization in the west bank. so that's something also to keep in mind. we also need to look at the what happens when this a ceasefire ends. we're talking just briefly interrupted because we're just seeing a live pictures from a children's hospital. the night is a children's medical center. and we've just seen that any guns that yeah, he's expecting that the it's as a kid hospital, he's expecting some of the hostages to be, to be brought there that still time for it to happen. it's still another hour, at least, probably 2 hours before we see of that. but let tell me about the briefly before we go on a, tell me about benny guns is a roles right now. but by any chance is one of the ministers in the,
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in the immediate war cabinet. he was bored into this cabinet as the worst started a few days after this took over 7th attack. he is considered to be the more a centrist, moderate. he has extensive military background, he used to be these really are the chief of staff along with him. we bought another former army chief of staff and we know him and the, the 2nd member i mentioned i as in cost, they were the driving force pushing. and that's when you all and golf mazda defense minister, 5 instruments in the house to agree to this deal. we known that to y'all and going for actually looking for military uh, solutions when it comes to home. awesome to the hostages, we know the gulf, and i think what, what pushing we got are we take out whoever we can when ever we can, we cannot trust. you know what's going to happen once the military starts operating in the south of the gaza strip. and he's also a part of now accepting those families at the hosp to just coming in the the, the plan for is released to let them in, at the media term, to see only their relatives and to avoid getting them to meet, you know,
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be confronted with the media circus, and these kind of events usually bring together with them. i interrupted you when you were talking about the palestinian prisoners, so that'd be free. so i want to talk about what happens, you know, with the ceasefire. the mechanism agreed upon is such a, whatever her mazda is willing to bring 10 more hostages as well, with grad 24 hours of ceasefire. it's not going to be clean cut. you know, there's going to be many dilemma. is that going to be a lot of many pollution attempts? what does this will do is how must come and say, we actually have 8 presidents? will it say no, really? they've them in gospel it's, it's a dilemma. the assumption are that the pressure for bringing home hostages is so big that is, will not be able to up to resist that. so can safely assume there is a chance, a good chance for these, this choose to go far beyond 4 days. but then what happens after that today? quite an hour ago, we've seen these really in the pallet, the spanish prime minister in the belgian prime minister who are visiting the region today, meeting with the egyptians, also with israelis standing in the off border where the hostages are just now
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located. saying we are welcoming the ceasefire. we would like it this to be continued as a permanent choose. we want to bring peace to the region. there was a lot of region as well for the timing for the location. but it's, it's just one of many voices. we will see you hearing we'll be hearing in the world as this truth progress is calling for the or for extending of that a ceasefire. and maybe for a longer choose and as trying to stop as well from re starting its ground operation . now a at the south part of garza where most of those thing is are and it's a very densely populated area. um it leaves the sunny rose on his dash on it. we will talk more in a couple of minutes and for the developments that for us we just joined us. what indeed have you use? let's have a quick reminder of our top story. this is really media, says 13 hostages, help our mouse have now been transferred to the red cross the on the way to the
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roof off border crossing with egypt that release as an exchange for public opinion, prisoners held in is way in the jails. this wolf is part of a deal brokerage by casa, also part of the deal is a full day 10 for ac stopped in the e's real home us war. we can now bring in the tunnel kind of a pizza learn are joining us now. as spokesman for the is really military kind of uh, 1st of all, can you confirm that the 13 hostages? i know the hands of the red cross. i am actually the sports person of the idea, not of the red cross. i can imagine that there's a lot of secrecy going on around this uh and once we have a transfer them and they are indeed in the hands of the idea that is then and only then will mean we make us statements on this issue. of course, we have been over the last several hours been making our final preparations to
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receive the hostages. as the relief released, the women, the children, including medical assistance, transportation and of course other support, a psychological and social welfare for those that are being hopefully released within, within the hour. this is a very dramatic day here, and it's all, it's a very i, i would say heart wrenching date throughout the day. i can show you everywhere. you see there is a television on people are gathering around the televisions to see this as it unravels. we have a lot of responsibility on our shoulders, and that is why i need to be very cautious at this stage. and with all the cautions, can you tell us a bit more about the role these really ami plays in the process of returning the hostages from gaza today in the coming days? what's going to be uh, the role of the military, that the ones that crossover and so it was rarely territory. we will be taking them uh to an airbase. from there, there will be a,
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the initial medical assessment and uh, verification of identities. and from there, there will be taken through hospitals and also its through their families. and the idea is every step of the way, uh, we are accompanying the families with designated officers and soldiers to accompany and to assist as the dramatic events on arrival. of course we need to be very prepared for very different scenarios and issues of uh, health and uh, personal or other issues of, of the individuals as it develops. and therefore, we have all of our stuff on clean and taking the necessary steps to be ready for, for the drama is that as it happens? now the truth between is rather and how mazda it's part of this deal seems to be holding, but still is, do you see the situation as valid time?
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absolutely, the, the situation is very fragile. that the situation on the ground is our forces are in defensive operational force, taking the necessary precautions in order to be and confront any threat that could arise. we've seen in the past in 2014. but how much didn't abide by any ceasefire, but raw that took advantage of cease fires to attack our forces and the duct lieutenants the golden. i'm so we are concerned, but we are strong and then for pets. and i think one of our wor, goals is to bring home the hostages, and this is why it is, are absolutely reasonable for us to hold it all file holdout positions and enable the transfer of the hostages out of gaza. answer as well as safe and sound. i expect this will be what we will continue to see for the next few days. i strong defensive capability, a reasonable understanding of what's happening, preparation for uh,
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incidents that could arise. but ultimately the goal is to bring home the hostages, and now the agreement was reached with the help of the media. it's a cops, so that's it briefly, before we come back to you, what the cops already foreign ministry spokesman have to say about a possible breach of facies. so i, i'm, i don't think i can get into the technicalities, you know, technically on, on, on the ground difficult. this is to be handled by the, you know, people who are there on the ground because i can tell you that the agreement is about the full succession and posted it even within the full days. so obviously, any assumption of hostilities of any kind would be a breach, and i think it's very important that the lines of communication remain open so that any possible breach. however, it is defined as communicated immediately to both sides. and there is a way to work that commitment and make sure that we continue with the, with the category for our ministry spokesman that people learn is still with us spokesman for the idea of how would be is there any truth react if you were
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informed of a breach of the agreement, as the diplomat has just described, are in the defensive position, but that does not mean we will not protect ourselves and we're not engage the enemy if they are breach the pause and an attack cost. this is why it is so fragile that i pointed out earlier. we are our role is the idea is to protect the civilians and citizens of the state of israel. and our forces on the ground needs to be protected as well. we will maintain our defensive positions, we will maintain those that pause in accordance to the instructions we have received from the government. a part of the agreement between israel and thomas is also the suspension of is riley drones, the valence during the hostage hanover's. again, coming back to a month, 2nd, let's hear from the guitar before i ministry again. so i'll, i'll tell you that, as you rightly mentioned, there will be a period of time where,
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where that this guides will begin. and that would allow for the hostage at least to happen in a safe environment as you might imagine. you know, in the, in the association of this, when uh, the mediation, secure thing, at least of 2 american. the ladies uh, one of the main challenges was because the sounds that are coming in, you know, the, the drones fine go that or whatever that might be and mistook for an attack at the time. so of course we need to make sure that the moving happens into a safe environment. so, so it doesn't cause any, any problems with the hostages. that yes, so a to these guys. now a piece around a how big of a problem is that for the is really military to give up. it's most important surveillance to the in gaza, even if only for a few hours. so i don't want to comment specifically on the uh, any of of the items uh, outlined in the framework. i would say that the idea is prepared. we have tools and
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abilities and operational capabilities in order to address uh, any uh, development on the grounds, in defensive capabilities to respond if the be, if there is a attack against our forces. the reality is one that there isn't agreements we will uphold our positive agreements. in order to bring the hostages on each, are you worried that's come out as will be able to use this, these 5 to regroup, to soft cost. this is the balance of the pulse of the operational pause and the human to turn goods that are coming in on one hand, but also the possibility that indeed how much will regroup its capabilities and try and reorganize it's operational activities. we are confident in our capability to address that, but i'd also say it, it works also in mine and in parallel with the off the goal of the war to bring home the hostages. and this is a balance that we need to make. and this has to be the,
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there is no contradiction in those in those 2 goals, but they go hand in hand and this is why if we hold down the fire and, and are able to bring harm in the next 4 days, 50 hostages and 5 other hostages in the days following, and then that goes hand in hand with our minute war goals with our intention to restore and bring home the hostages. and i would say every last one of them. now let's focus a bit more on this situation inside gaza. and now we've heard today that many displaced palestinians who had left the nose and gaza strip in recent weeks, seeking refuge in the south. and i want to use the break and fighting to a time and see if it's still have a home. it these, right, i'm just trying to prevent this. why are in a called us with the agreement as outlines. there was not supposed to be any return of people from south to north. indeed, we're continuing to encourage people to go from the north, back down south,
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and not to return to the north. there is a lot of force presence on the ground. we content now must have take advantage of movement in order to attack us. uh, the reality is that it is, is an operational pause. and at the end of this pause, we intend on continuing the war effort to gain some us its infrastructure and wherever and seeking and hunt them down. so any civilians coming into that area of doing it at a great risk, and that is why we are pulling them not to come back to the north, but to maintain and stay in the south throughout the course of the next few days. even though it might seem that there is no longer fighting ongoing. at one last question, we've reported earlier that it's how mos decides to give back more hostages. they'll get more time in the seas 5 is. is that something that you envision, is that sort of a part of the deal more hostages for more time? i think that we need to see, 1st of all, that the 1st, the, the transfer of hostages takes place. i don't want to jump through any conclusions
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about what may happen in 3 days time. uh, we have to embrace each and every one of the hostages that come home. it's meant it's women today as women and children. apparently, we wait to see and embrace them. you know, we have to keep in mind that there are, are of 200 and the families of 236 people that have the lives have been told to pieces in the last uh, almost 50 days now. uh our we are in bracing them as individuals. we embracing them as society. we're impressing them as a country, and i don't want to jump to conclusions. what may happen in 3 days time. let's take it one day at a time. let's bring home the hostages. they need to be brought home and they need to be brought home. now the technical fee to learn as spokesman off as he is really on me. thank you very much today and we cannot cross over to our correspondent
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tonic families following that story for us from the house of a f. as in southern is robot hostages. i expected to arrive after being released from moscow to have it to you. now, a ton of some of these rather hostages have now been handed over to the red cross. what more can you tell us? yeah, these are the reports. and we also hearing from sources within a mouse that are confirming that they handed over the searching hostages to the international international in red cross at the, on the way to the crossing. and from there they would be brought to israel. and then we're expecting them to be brought here to the hearts of him a base where they will get it 1st, you know, medical check up. are we expecting here these uh children uh their mothers, uh other women of the searching hostages. so um they will be received.
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