she wanted me to remain mysterious or some strong, sometimes threatening, sometimes of charming to me, but i couldn't see behind her a man to disagree with. the red princess stops november 25th on dw to bring them home. that's the name of b, is rarely advocacy, group pressuring the netanyahu government to get the over $200.00 hostages, held by him off, and also released so far, only for captives had been free for humanitarian reasons. now 24 others were finally brought home among them as riley's ties and a filipino citizen. and if the truth hopes this could be only the beginning, the release of most of them is part of a 4 day face fire and gaza that we can friday morning, that pause and fighting brokerage buying katara means dozens of palestinians are

being freed in exchange. but even though the entire region is breathing a sigh of relief, israel has vowed that this cease fire will not be permanent. i'm gonna call for elation berlin. and this is the day the, this is a very dramatic day here in the cemetery i, i would say pop wrenching date. it's just everything. really nervous. afraid not, not uncertainty. i'm sad. i'm glad it's everything together. it's a mixture of every person for us. the whole world, and we're just trying to get everyone's back in one piece. the cabinet is and we are living minutes, 5 minutes an hour after hour wishing that the day ends with my son in my arms. but

we are happy that tomorrow is coming back home and will sleep. here with us tonight . last night was the last time that she will sleep away from the welcome to the day they've been held for many long, agonizing weeks. the 1st batch of hostages, kidnapped by him last. milton, stirring, it's a toper. 7 terror attack on israel has been released as part of a 4 day truce between israel and the militant group brokerage by guitar. earlier on friday evening, this convoy of red cross vehicles crossed from gaza over the russell border crossing into egypt carrying 13 israel is freed as part of a deal brokers by could tar. also in these vehicles or 10 hostages from thailand and one from the philippines fried under a separate deal. the passengers were then met by is rarely soldiers for

identification checks and then taken from each of back into israel to major hospitals for medical treatment. and to be re united with their families is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu address the media after their release. we have now completed the return of a for us, of our object to these children that mothers of a, we mean which are stressed to you, to the families and to use citizens of israel. we are committed to the return of all of our up to tease. this is one of the go with the war and we are committed to achieving over the goal was available to you as president obama said the release of hostages was the result of weeks of intense diplomacy. here's some of what he had to say are consistently press for a pause in a fight for 2 reasons, to accelerate and expand humanitarian assistance going into gaza and to, to facilitate the release of hostages. over the past several weeks i spoke

repeatedly with a mirror cutter, the present, the safety of egypt, and premier's not no, no, no of israel to help secure this deal to nail it down. i want to thank all 3 leaders for their personal partnership to get this done. i spoke with the amir and president stacy and the prime minister and that now again on wednesday to confirm the elements of the engagement. as i said, today's release or the start of a process, we expect more hostages to be released tomorrow. more the day after more the day after that. over the next few days we expected dozens of hostages will return to their families. we also remember all those were still being held, renew our commitment to work for their release as well. and germany, there is relief after for hostages, holding german citizenship were among those rubies. many of the people cannot buy him off our jewels citizens. the german nationals include a 77 year old woman and

a mother entered 2 daughter is age 2 and $4.00. germany's foreign minister on a babel kept this to say about their release. you can english allies that stuff. i am immensely relieved that 24 hostages have just been released from gaza, including for germans, defend font enough, and that's a father up to 49 days of how of unbelievable anxiety can finally hold his 2 little daughter's inches wide safely in his arms again. mine cuz we can decide on my personal sign, go to mike atari can to parse even go with the international committee of the red cross and courts as to the d chipped. and why does into the sly? well, there are still over $200.00 women and men o king, and especially children, how much in the hands of a mouse and vital fish leaped. when can be done, gazing towards the parcel or with them today all for a month or so with their families that he's not todd quite to as much as the stays

the day of hope. it says it smells a day to breathe, a sigh of relief. so loss is due to release more is really hostages over the coming days, 50 in total, in exchange for a $150.00 palestinian prisoners held in israel and jails. on friday evening, a group of 39 palestinian inmates and the occupied westbank were freed as part of the temporary troops. the group made up of women and teenage boys was released near ramallah. red cross representatives were at the scene to collect them. the associated press reported that is really forces fire to your gas at palestinian crowds in an attempt to push them back from the prison. monte cristo was a crisis negotiator from various israel, a government's between 19942001. today he's the see of nesta consulting company that provides negotiation and crisis management training. welcome to the day and mr

. crystal for so what is your reaction to the 1st group of hostages being released as well? it's uh we are really uh myself as well as, um many, many of these riley is uh to see these uh, 13 uh kids the mothers and the elderly women. uh we were released to see that's actually the 1st phase of this deal was uh, implemented uh successfully. uh now we are looking forward for the next um, 2 days during which to other groups of uh, kids and the mothers would be released me. you've been involved in many hostage negotiations in the past. how does this compare in terms of complexity to what you have encountered throughout your career? and it's, there is, uh, there is nothing to compare. there is nothing similar i,

i think that actually the word has never seen such a release of kids and women this, this number, this outrages number of 200 and the almost 250 people civilians, kids. the baby is a political survive. bruce, who were taken from their beds, we haven't seen such a thing. this is why the uniqueness and the magnitude of, of this, or this event. it was a military operation. uh, not only the negotiations bart uh was the complex but also the execution was a carried a tremendous res because so many parts. and now i'm that starts to release the video shooting of them taking hostages from the band is heading over to the red cross. and we saw the red cross,

the car is getting into the junction and then headed over to these riley. it is extremely complex. and carries many risk for some with the implementation of it. the speaking to the w earlier today is that that i lost doesn't actually hold all the hostages. some are with other groups. how much does that complicate their release? so i think that this is probably one of the most significant issues of concern from us in this the could meet that for 50 uh, kids and uh, women and elderly ladies. we'd be the, this is the number that actually are in the immediate control of how much. however, one of the interesting things that we've just learned in this recent release is that an elderly woman, that was that who was very nice,

actually a beard in islamic jihad video announcement 3 days ago, as they uh declares that they execute the air 3 days ago. they probably started notification, we heard v d all saying this woman whom you saw 3 weeks before making the statement like a life woman. we murdered her. she was uh uh, she was cute. and today we saw a hair back live reeves. this is just send me an indication off the router and the barbaric nature of the people with whom we're dealing the um, psychological, wafaa, which we have good reason to assume that it was deliberate. mm hm. but that shows

the lack of control of come us over the current says on the ground, we believe that 50 hostages are within the hands of a mass, but maybe they cannot go around the accessing all of them, let alone those who are in the profession of war lords, or other derbies, games all dependent stevens lemming g at me at this deal by some members of a prime minister netanyahu, whose cabinet has been called painful. and as it stands, do you think it's a good deal for israel? and um, you know, i, i definitely don't do this. i just do a good deed to describe negotiating with this barbaric their organization. this is the core, this is necessary and

a necessity. this is the commitment of the people of these read to the people who is where they can literally buy from us. it's not about good or bad. this is not the commercial deal that we can evaluate. this is our commitment and he's right. we do whatever is necessary deals of duration, the auction, military maneuvers, international pressure in order to get all the hostages safely back home. mm hm. awesome. it will be willing to release all hostages in exchange for all palestinian prisoners. would that be an acceptable price to pay? i strongly believe and i will explain it a 2nd. why this is yet another psychological manipulation on behalf of from us. the deed of all for own was a deal that was on the table from day one. but once from us leadership introduce

the new are really understood. this is where it is going into gaza. is maneuvering military when how much understood that this time is ready is determined to completely dismissal from us. really, governing and military capability is easiest thing. lar, the leader from us actually change his mind and he is going to use the present as the hostages, as a human shield. this is how math practice from us is using human shield to protect the leadership, to protect their theories. so a deal with the old for old works against how much own in, during the mug of using the hostages as human shields. in particular for how much the, the she i'm calling here, let's see. it from us are so great as they put them, let them release all the hostages,

even dean. without using them. as long as the us is ready to get to hand down the leadership that was better in crisis negotiator, moody crystal. thank you so much for your insights. thank you. or join now by middle east expert atanya gas keys, the during the list, an editor in chief of the magazine. so need here in berlin, they're out and tell me how much of a political accomplishment is this deal? it's a huge political accomplishment because the parties involved can show and can also showcase evidently that negotiations work. if it's a major breakthrough, i mean, i'm not saying that everything is going to be implemented implemented according to plan. i'm not sure if maybe the sci fi is going to be broken on interrupted, but the fact that in the middle of a war, while you have one party doomed, which is from us and the other side, israel declaring that it wants to annihilate from us. and still,

we see that it's possible to negotiate deals between them. it's a risky strategy. and it took a lot of, i think, a nightmarish headache on the side of the negotiators. namely the categories, the us and the directions. but it's interesting that it works and we see that we shouldn't take to all the information at face value. we, we have this massive system destruction in the gaza strip. but at the same time we have talks ongoing. we have negotiations, we have a certain readiness even between the worst enemies to, to, to come to a deal. that doesn't mean that the war is over. it doesn't mean that the military campaign is over. and it doesn't mean that all of the hostages are going to be reduced, but there is a model how instrumental was tar and this would we be here without guitar today? usually instrumental um the categories were the ones who do according to the information diag, a design process. and you can see the guitar signature and much of what happened. first of all, they really did like playbook media mediation, and it took me some time to understand, followed it from the very beginning actually how they created expectations and both

sides. how they shaped a narrative, saying look, how moss did something terrible. but they didn't intend to do to harm to such magnitude to these really as they actually wanted to kidnap is really military and then uh, negotiate the release of the ministry painful for how most prisoners and is really present. i'm not saying that this is the true story, but it's a, it's a narrative to shape, to, to create expectations and both sides. then they announced many times and, and, and, and involved the can to kind of open those. we're close to with you. we have that number of hostages that can be released. we have the united states on board. we have these reason board. then they said, okay, these really so i'm not yet in. we have to convinced that on the out, but they were at the same time, very strategic and also strategically communicate, communicating, or even sometimes transparent about their frustrations and the efforts. and it was quite interesting. they didn't want to sidelines egyptians at the same time, which is very important, of course they needed to have the united knew united states on board. it's

a very interesting story and i think of course it can be with now. but as we'll be in the near future. now this is a true set, a set to last 4 days. for now. what happens on day 5 or whatever the day after maybe before the is or the government? it is clear and i think they have the support of a major part of the population that a military campaign or some. so it has to continue because they, they say they want to destroy how much they want to. and i'm also involved with the gaza strip and the want to make sure that how much will never strike again. it is at the same time that has that before they said that before. and we have seen is really by ministers in war saying we will not leave unless we have killed every single one of them. but at the same time then they were ready for some sort of a political compromise. what is, what is clear for israel that a return to home us will over the causes trip, as an option, may be some sort of an hour up initiative could to, could materialize, could crystallize even though everyone is very like they say they know that they don't well as well, because this is because the framework is,

isn't clear and because they wanted to make sure that they don't have to pick up the pieces behind the destruction that these realize costs and the processor. but, but in general, i think some sort of an hour of engagement is possible and would also be the only reasonable way way to is to, to put it into this war. now need some sort of a face saving solution at the same time he needs as an easy victory. and of course, the release of hostages is a major victory for him. after all, the failure and, and the dread that is really some other students have suffered in the last couple of weeks and talking about the suffering in the gaza strip. specifically, there have been calls all around the globe for a cease fire, a permanent cease fire. how do you think the international community and especially of countries like the united states and guitar, are going to use the, the weight that they have in this to maybe change is really mines or, or no sir, it's some sort of fractional us. kentoria. lions is not in the live political

alliance, it's not that they don't agree on all the aspects of the countries. like i think the us very clear that the don't call for sees for, for, for 10 minutes each these 5 because they think that israel should have the right to continue the military campaign. at the same time, they see the devastation destruction that this campaign has caused, which when beyond what can be considered in ontario operation, the department says that they're not going to supported any longer, no plan for the posted into it. but the troops in quite some time to come to that that statement. and on the other hand, you have the katara as well, of course pro palestinian. and who said from the very beginning that this operations i'm justified. so there is no, there is no agreement. we don't have an agreement even inside europe about to cease by the german government was very ambivalent, big use about it. so i think is a ceasefire. is something that needs to come into operation with a success and the hostages they'll use for those. so let's look at them at the case of an isolated fashion, because it's not the only dusty that is happening here. but at the same time,

i think the hostages can, can, can create trust between the negotiating parties of which, how mazda is not directly taught. and that is, of course, a major challenge for diplomacy. but hey, these are the moments for, for real crisis diplomacy, for re professionals who i think can solve the situation because you have reason all people on the is really side. let's see that the military campaign with these consequences is to say the least not sustainable to the security entrance. you say there is no, i'm going to use these fire until there is success. what, what success look like? that depends very much on going. of course, the, how mazda is behavior mazda separation, and on the margin that you give them a, you know, i'm drafting scenarios sometimes, and that one would know, don't want to say that all parties would agree to that. but let's just like imagine that a group of our states would agree that they can provide some sort of a secure with jim police force incorporation with public standing with the palestinian people supported by the united states, the european union. and eventually israel, i think it's such a scenario, it would be very, very difficult to swallow for homeless,

but i don't think they have major options. and let's not forget that there is countries in the region that have leverage over them. and kentucky is a small one, but a very important one. the time you get a great speaking to you. thank you so much. thank you. much more to talk about. let's do that with aaron lorraine, who's a former deputy national security advisor to the is really government and current editor in chief of the jerusalem strategic. true. we're in with alarm and good to have you on the show. what are the chances of this temporary cease fire turning into a permanent one i would say practically now, the expectation of these really clocks and that goes from either traditions or less and sent out to the right. so it's nothing better off of government positions or for a good happened latisha's. this is the public very broadly. has public sentiments to come off cannot be allowed to continue to govern kaiser and

the likelihood that they were made on their arms and in surrender. and basically a find a way out of guys have to be replaced by something more amenable to our future security and to the well being of the palestinian people is also more or less at 0. so the compare them is better to continue until march no longer have sway with the people of guys and threatens is really security and, and that, and i don't see it point at this stage much as we would all i commence to and in the manner that does not require for the military action. i don't see a way to do it. um, try to imagine frankly, what would be the europe would be like, what trim and the would be like if there was a sci fi? looked over $44.00. yeah, i'm sorry. would you say that until now?

the idea of your mission? would you say that until now the idea of mission in gaza has been a success? yes, it was very gradually carried out. it is very. no, we're all overlay to the 3 elements in the technical intelligence which we cover from the shop of october 7, very close support from the survey mention from the area that includes the air force and the drones and all these elements which are now temporarily held because of the falls into flight and a very discipline to progress by the wrong forces. it's it to be paying for give, pay, come the most us. but the results, i think i'm really bad portfolios expected when uh when we originally

launched the ground to complain who a matter of the boss, the presence in the north has been destroyed. other areas are now continued and the capacity to destroy from us has been proven to exist. yeah, october 7th, was of course an unprecedented attack on israel. and in an recent article your road is that a triggered and unprecedented response from washington. and can you tell us briefly, maybe what the us is role has been in shaping the aftermath of october 7th? we're kind of response, i think reflected 1st and foremost. so recognition. i said the in the day of the crimes committed against the i would say the judge maple, but some of the victims were actually arabs, bedrooms in the negative and novice. but the majority of the crimes committed by come off the trunk. that's

a really raised shadow. some memories from dr times and history present by them is so to be mindful of that and, and in addition, we can see they have handled the wrong behind offers. and so what they did shape is re that's what the balance of, of the turing iris iran are. hello uh from going out into the world. the choice was to go half way and because the lives lost nearly 90 fighters over the income for patients. was this room we have had to evacuate, evacuate larger areas of to not because of our tax on us and in our areas. but that is not what the firm scale will of which they are capable. answers to some extent is to, to the american the different foster and the same should be sent about the really is themselves. yeah, yeah. also help you in the,

in the funding attempts by the humphrey regime in the pots of him. and then we'll have to leave it there. mr. learned when we're running out of time. thank you so much for your assessment. that was your dad's most of the release is in the next few days. i know that for all of the released our german citizens. so congratulations on that. as long as our type, the, the, the

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. this is the, the news line from berlin. 24 hostages, free from gaza, arrive in israel. a red cross conroy carries the captives to safety after their release. twice a month. along those fried are children and 6 elderly women crowns gather in the west bank to celebrate after israel praise. 39, posting and prisoners as part of a tar brokers deal. in total, a $150.00 or so.