a gauge, a rehab sounds kind of a logical doesn't that well on thursday, a world addicted to fossil fuels will descend on the united arab emirates, one of the world's top producers of oil and natural gas for the annual us climate summits. while arguments can be made about how it is specifically the beneficiaries of the exploitation of natural resources that need to be involved in climate action . concerns are the host might be running into a conflict of interest here. now reports have emerged suggesting the u. a. e. we're planning to use the climate summit to strike new fossil fuel deals. to 9th, we ask, has comp 28 failed before it has even started. i'm to call for lucian berlin, and this is the day the friday on 2 degrees at the current trajectory of the time of the transmission.

anything is on plus 2023. so our records for draft and high temperatures, and yet cold for oil and gas companies, it's better than ever. it's time to talk about investors images that difficult. 28 has been doors, the principal that the polluters should pay the number one priority for this call is to recognize that business as usual test to be dropped. also on the day nato's newest member, finland closes its borders to russia. the countries for administer tells you that way you why as well russia is engaging a high breed opperation against finland, and we had to take concrete, robust measures. we can't accept this kind of a a probation taking place. welcome to the show and

theory. the un climate conference is a great opportunity for world leaders and advocates to find solutions to one of our biggest common challenges global warming. in practice, it has long been criticized as a fox, a meet and greet of thousands of powerful people, fly around the world for a couple of days of making pledges that they don't plan to follow through. on this, you're summon, centered around the question of how to phase out in fossil fuels, takes place in the united arab emirates, one of the world's top oil and gas producers. and before the event into by even kicks off. it was overshadowed by reports that the hosts were planning on using it as a platform to strike new fossil fuel deals. the chair of the climate conference, who also happens to be the head of the national oil company, the 9th, the reports. here's what he said. these allegations of force

not to incorrect. i'm not accurate for the 1st time ever. a significant number of oil and gas companies now aligned around net 0 by 2050 targets, and that's 0. 2050 me fee, an image and targets again for the 1st time. activist and civil society will also be at the summit to add to the pressure on government's to come up with a climate action plan. but with controversy over perspectives on the conflict in the middle east and increasingly radical protest tactics pulling out the global movement strength can they hold the same sway over negotiations as in past years to w. climb and corresponding louise osborne reports turned out. one hundreds might have been taking part in this fridays for future protest in germany. now this little mold in a handful, like here last week,

when you divide in this, even if we're no longer so big, we're still stable. we're still allowed and we will still show up. presidents fridays for future still has a very strong voice, and particularly in germany, a sentiment that is increasingly being that worked out particularly in europe as a riley. and i'm to them go to tune bug was criticized for voicing. solidarity which people think does have not been listening over for private demonstration. but the political fridays for future gemini, has since distance itself from the international group, attention grabbing tactics, a talking famous art works and disrupting traffic. but also climate groups like germany's let's, the government got to be on the case. just stop oil are also causing tensions within the wider climate movement x. but say the diversity of opinion and

strategies does not mean climate activism is weakening. in a lot of ways, the degree to which a movement is brought and has various factions. and actually the diversity of the perspectives within the movement. and someone shows as frank as a natural progressive progression from movement. well, purchase numbers have dropped campaign to say it reflects less need for the big protests of the past. we have to mobilize literally hundreds of thousands of people for our government to acknowledge that there might be an issue with the climate and that they might not be doing enough. this is drastically changed because we're seeing that we have normalized, this understanding of excellent emergency concern about climate change among the public is generally rising. in australia, almost 2 thirds of people see it as a major threat. japan, more than 80 percent around 2 subs in germany. and just as

a hoss of people in the us, experts say differences within the climate movement is at least in part, helping fuel to the degree that we see these um, diversity use of perspectives and tactics being used. the more likely it is that the general public, when, when we more and more concerned about the climate crisis, because the climate crisis is getting worse and worse, we're seeing more, more kind of shocks around the world. so more and more people are going to be focusing on what they personally can do. whichever, the reason public an activist pressure on global leaders is mounting for them to do more than just promised action. but to provide a future. so good, it goes to a resolution 2712 goals for and i quote the media to and then conditional release of all seduce l by miles and other groups and seal them. they must be seriously due

mainly, and the international community of the girls must be allowed to visit them. un secretary general antonia with terror speaking there. the hostages seized in the october 7th terror attack on israel have been used by a mouse as a bargaining chip to secure a pause in fighting and the release of palestinian prisoners held in israel and jails. mos unprecedented attack launched from gaza came after years of threats to destroy the state of israel. now it is israel that his vowing to completely eliminate how much and its military operations in gaza. matthew live, it is a counterterrorism analyst and he enjoys me now from washington dc. good to see you, matthew, and you called us the war hamas always wanted y result. it's a pleasure be here. thanks for having me. i think after i'm us to go with the guys a strip by force of arms in 2007, a lot of people mistakenly thought that

a mouse would either be, come or moderate or would at least be co opted by the responsibilities of governance in fact, what we now can conclude is that i'm us was using the guys the strip as it means to build up his capabilities to ultimately try and do what it's always wanted to do. which is not to have a 2 state solution, but rather to destroy israel and create a slum is not a secular state and all of this started palestine. and so ultimately almost always wanted to be able to do something big to try and destroy as well. but they might end up destroying themselves. that is what israel has set out to do now in response to the october 7th attacks, we're will all of this leave home us this is clearly a very big risk from us, but one that they were ultimately ready to take because they looked at the rock it was that they started with israel every 182436 months and realize that wasn't getting them anywhere near their ultimate goals. frankly,

from us has been able to put the palestinian issue back on the map. there's lots of public support for home us, an air of states and in streets and protests in western capitals. if you're home us, your goal right now is to survive it as long as you can survive, even if you're pushed out of the guys a strip. you have promoted your issue. i think they were actually willing at this point to sacrifice their governance project in gaza if it meant moving their end goal a further along from their perspective they felt stuck in gaza. but let's talk about this promise of governance. after the atrocities that they committed on october 7th, can they still claim to legitimately represent the palestinian cause or at least the cause of the people living under their rule and gaza? almost there is a distinction between the brutal heretic acts of terrorism. they tired out on october 7th and their ability to speak for palestinians. i think it's important to

note that just looking for an outside didn't they don't speak for palestinians are think tank. took a poll in the summer 70 percent of people in gaza wanted home us out from a mazda his perspective though, doing something like this, freeing palestinian prisoners from a variety of different ideological backgrounds. moving the issue of palestinian statehood farther onto the agenda of the, of the international community. they'll see this has grounds for yeah, making the case that they can represent the past and as i would disagree, but that's their position. there had been warning signs and even intelligence suggesting homeless was planning an attack. why the v is really government not see this coming? we're not going know the real answer to that for some time. there were multiple failures, security intelligence, border security. but there were signs and it wasn't just intelligence officials, academics like me noticed them to well, i'm us official,

got an hezbollah affiliated television station, the summer and said we're preparing for regional war. but we all kind of assumed that that was tough talk and it almost was largely to turn in. we were wrong, which means all of us academics, myself included government intelligence. we need to reassess our assumptions about not only what i'm us will do, but next perhaps what groups like has bullet and loving on my to me and then that and yeah, we'll government in response to what happened on october 7th. they have about to crush. i'm us militarily, but in your opinion, will that do much to eradicate the threat, they oppose their backers and their ideas won't cease to exist after all. the god council, people not to talk about destroying from us because you don't destroy a terrorist group militarily. we disrupt didn't destroy the islamic state militarily, with the global coalition that we built, but we did inflict successfully inflict territorial defeat. and these realities can do that. and so now they're talking more specifically about disentangling hum us

from the guy is a strip ending him us governance and military project in the guys a trip that is unachievable goal. what is less clear is what's going to come in behind that so that it's not another militant project and that's going to be more complicated. what should israel's long game be here then? because there of course, the most interested in having stability in the region. it well, i think the one thing that is clear is that the is rarely the policy and it was the western european american policy to making sure there was just enough economic opportunity in the gaza strip to maintain call that that ultimately failed. and so i think this really is a right that they simply cannot tolerate a military threat like that by a group committed to their destruction on their border. i do think there's an issue internally within israel. you have, anytime you all government that is dead set against the 2 state solution, much of is rose in favor of a 2 state solution. but many, many of the west are like ultimately think some type of 2 state solution is what is

going to have to happen. but you're gonna have to create a new palestinian authority to make that possible because of the current one is not neither capable nor, well, let's put it this way. there. there's not really corrupt. mm hm. and i want to take a quick look at how mazda is international backers. we always talk about iran. there's also could tar, we spoken a lot about them as a mediator in this conflict. they've been instrumental in getting this truce underway and extended what is their role been in allowing him off to get to where they were on october 7th? is just darn away the most important backer of loss. yeah. is, is iran, and that's not only in terms of the amount of money somewhere on the $100000000.00 a year, but also the weapon rate, the intelligence, the training. and that is specifically helping the military component of a mazda. it helps the other parts to cut are provided, salary is for a mos bureaucrats. that is a problem from where i said it was. however, the us,

europe's and israel's policy, those funds were transferred through is really banks, knowingly that or some part at least some additional funds. the cuts are provided covertly, but much of what codes are provided ultimately was part of the is really policy of trying to maintain cause that failed separately the issue and cut our of allowing from us leaders to reside their luxury wall. calling for attacks against israelis. that's a much more significant thing for my opinion. and how do we move forward in this position with so many moving parts, so many interests at play? where do we go from here? we're still in the middle of a war. we're at a moment of relative calm. how do you see this unfolding over the coming weeks, months and years? possibly a lucky man. so the years, there's too many ways this to go even in the next few days. there's too many ways this can go. the 1st thing to do is realize is release of hostages. as unclear how

many days they're going to wait. be willing to extend the, the com to be able to get more hostages back in their reports. that the is really baby and his family of that are hostages and guys of the reports coming out of guys and say that they were killed. that's the case. things could go sour very, very quickly. i do think that the international community needs to understand how these realities are. you are united and unanimous and committed to ending the hum us project in guys that that doesn't mean getting rid of every homeless person there doesn't mean necessarily killing them. i think that these realize at this point would be open to much like what happened with the pillow and they root in 1982 and they'll get an about know, leaving to go someplace else. there are lots of ways this can go, but the status quo oh, the cease fire, the just ends things where they are and i'm awesome power. i don't see any is really agreeing to that. that was counter terrorism, expert matthew love it. thank you so much for your insight. thank you for having me

. nato has been a staunch supporter of ukraine and it's fine against russia's aggression. but fears are ukraine fatigue might be setting in among keys allies. the light of that, that nato member states have read or read at their commitment to stand with ukraine for as long as it takes to spite concerns. but the word with russia is turning into a stalemate. speaking and brussels, ukrainian, foreign minister and demetrius, who labor insisted that there is no stalemate for labor. instead calls on nato members to ramp up their production of weapons and said that ukraine's goal of re taking all its territory remains unchanged. or nato membership for ukraine is also a major topic of discussion in brussels. nato secretary general against oldenburg. so that was not a question of if,

but rather when this meeting demo, so, so to your client is moving closer and closer to the natal. and after meeting we will discuss how we can support your policy towards and they to membership while as agreed that to do okay and will become a member of their lines. and we need now to discuss the path forward, the reform efforts and accommodate the kind of support you in implementing those reforms. are brussels correspondent, terry schultz is standing by in brussels, where she's been covering this meaning. terry, let's talk about the past 4 words. the head of nato says, every country in the lines agrees ukraine will become a member, and that that membership is moving closer. but was there any indication whatsoever? and today's meeting when key will be allowed to join to there's not nicole and, and when secretary general sales and bring says ukraine is moving closer, that doesn't really mean close. we know that it will not be invited at the next

nato summit, so that doesn't tell us anything about when it may be invited. and as you know, they, they would've liked this offer to come already. last nato summit in vilnius. so there are a lot of reasons why the alliance can't fathom, bringing ukraine under the umbrella right now, you've got a war ranging on ukrainian territory. and of course, any member of the alliance has the article 5 collective security guarantee. and so really, a lot of members of the alliance just cannot fathom importing award that they would then have to participate in. there are still some countries, though, the baltic states, in particular, who's saying you print should be offered membership. this, this would help deter russia from more aggressive actions. so there is a debate inside the alliance, but secretary general stilton burke has made clear there will not be this coveted invitation coming already. next summer. ukraine fatigue has become somewhat of a buzz word. is there any sign in the lines that support for kids might be wavering?

is more than just a buzz where it is definitely a reality. but every time you ask leaders, and we do this frequently, whether they see it, they say that they don't. and, and many people were asked today at nato, including secretary jones, fulton, bergen, us secretary of state anthony blinking. and both of them say absolutely not. there's no ukraine fatigue, we see, you know, this contribution offered. we see these billions going to keep. but then you talk to other people including the lithuanian for administer who i spoke with after the meeting. and he says, you know, i just don't see us doing enough. so people may say, you know, there's not a complaint drop off in contributions to keep that people are still sending military equipment and talking about new systems. but we're simply not doing enough to push you crane over the edge to be able to win this war. and so in some sense, that's a fatigue in itself. mm hm. and, and moving on to something else that you've been covering throughout this week,

finland has closed all its borders, border crossings to pretty much all traffic with russia along their shared border. you've been speaking with the finish for administer. what is she been saying about the move? that's right. nicole. a, you know, last week of finland closed. the 4th, the southern most border crossings where russia was basically shuttling migraines to the border and trying to push them across. and they warned russia that this was not okay and that they would uh take further action. and in fact, the rest of the just kept transporting people further up the border. and so finally finland had left one border crossing open. and sure enough, there were buses taking migrants up to this very northern point. so today i asked to finish foreign minister about this decision to close even that last border crossing. and here's what she had to say. a russia is engaging a high breed opperation against finland, and we had to take concrete,

robust measures in order to can to cancel the this offensive. and yes, we decided to close our entire eastern border and we hope this is strong enough, taking our festival to russia. that's we can't accept this kind of a, a probation taking place. and the 2nd thing is, of course, that we want to warn, and so to country citizens not to engage in in new rushes, very ruthless game. right, terry? the finish for most or they're accusing russia of hybrid warfare. but in reality, how big of problem does the search in migrant arrivals pose for finland? so the numbers were not so high that finland couldn't manage them. it was hundreds more than would normally cross the border because they had to rush and help. it's not that they couldn't manage it, it's it's, they saw that the, that russia plans to escalate this action. this is what the finish government said when they took this decision yesterday to close that final border crossing. they

said there were signs that they were going to bring even more people there and you heard for administer bolton and also trying to send a message to, to the people that are coming in on these russian operations saying this is going to be very bad for you, the temperatures are already dropping to minus 20 degrees, possibly even minus 30 degrees before long. and your going to be stuck there because we're not going to let you cross. and so i asked her also, you know, doesn't this creator humanitarian pressure on finland. if you know these people are sitting right across the board or waiting for you to let them in. and she said that is on russia. she said, we're not going to take responsibility for them. putting people into these a, these vulnerable situations. but it is a difficult situation for finland to do this. now this northern border crossing the last one has only been closed for 2 weeks. the southern most ones are, are closed for 3 months. so the clearly expects that russia is not simply going to drop off this activity because they've sent this strong signal, neighboring sweet,

and also wants to join nato. every nato country apart from hungry and turkey, has approved its membership. but any movement there long ago, everyone else approved swedish membership. this is a, a really big frustration for the alliance. they had very much hope that at this foreign ministers meeting, they would be able to raise the swedish flag. and finally bring stockholm in as a full member of the alliance. and that was made clear to turkey at the defense ministers meeting a month ago that you know, we really want this done by the foreign ministers meeting, but it didn't happen. so there were boats delayed and the turkish parliament, the foreign affairs committee needs to approve it. and then it goes back to the full plenary and then of course it goes to president air to one, and none of those things have happened yet. so it was once again, absolutely emphasize to turkey, that the time is up, that you need to bring sweden into the lines. and then of course, you have hungry, who simply says, we're not going to be the last ones. but you know, until turkey signals that it is really going to get this approval done,

hungry doesn't have to move either. now, we were told that the turkish, the turkish foreign minister told the swedes that he expects it to be a couple of weeks now. but we've heard a couple of weeks before, so i don't think sweden is a making any reservations to fly back and see it's flag raised at nato until it, until this is really, really confirmed. now we only have about a minute to go, but another issue that came up on the sidelines of the nato and meetings was it was a session for the organization of security and cooperation in europe. that is starting tomorrow. there is talk of a boy card. what's going on there? it is not just talk of a boy called the baltic. foreign ministers have said they are not going because russian for administer surgery, lab roth is going, they say the only place you should be flying is to the hague. so the baltic said that he should not be allowed to participate, that russia is absolutely in violation of, of every principle of the organization for security and cooperation in europe. and they simply won't sit there. they even ask some of their friends and allies not to

go, but as far as i know, everyone else is going to finish. foreign minister said she thinks it's important to go there and speak her mind to lab ross himself. and that's what most countries have decided to do. but yes, this was a, quite a discussion on the margins of benito meeting one day in brussels, d, w. 's, terry shoals there to break it all down for us. thank you so much. i and that's or time already, but make sure to stay engaged, stay informed and stay in touch. you can follow our team on social media at dw news and myself at nicole underscore for an issue. the latest headlines you're looking for. there is, of course, always our website that's d w dot com. thank you so much for spending parts of your day with us by the

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