the words people have to say, that's why we listen because every weekend on d w, the this is data being used for that coming up on the program. the high stakes global kind of talks underway into by world leaders and depression to take decisive steps in the fight against climate change. but we'll comp, sweetie, i deliver for the millions of africans whose lives are being destroyed by the time of christ. and we meets the on trump, the news building, green businesses and climate, frankly, solutions. so for me, in kenya, they chose your product because your product of us the most value,

i think that's what we should start going to be to invest, as opposed to celebrating how much money you have raised. because we've seen money that has increased, that really hasn't produced customized plus a women's peace platform in temper room is given. the 2023 gym and effort towards i'll be joined by one of the with the hello. i'm christine. when do i, it's good to have your company. the you in climate summit club 28 opened into by with loud cause for binding commitments on ending the use of fossil fuels. the secretary general of the united nations. antonio gutierrez said, he wanted to see countries agree to the phasing out of fossil fuels within a reasonable timeframe with terry. she went on to say that the resources are

available, but that there was a lack of political will. not africa is responsible for less than 5 percent of global emissions, but african countries are among the worst affected by a warming planets in san via is currently chairing the african group. i'm going to go see which is, which will be representing the interest of the continent at this year's summit of the and we can out tool to our report a blaze. yahoo is at the top, 28th summits and divide plays. i want to start on the use of fossil fuels. there are loud quotes to phase out the use of fossil fuels. what is effort his position on this one? well, a lot of oxygen vilegas that we have spoken to here in dubai. i believe that i think of the bell would eventually have to move to the course of 12. but at the moment that's not visible, i was speaking to someone from the young integration us, you may be called and i may be at the school by 12 not so long ago. and she was

telling me that at these us who called is less than given to africa and 2 things of africa would continue to exploit for software for the moment to be able to deal industries. bill capacities get enough money down to enable africa. now to move to renewable energy. so at the moment i think this position as for us as the delegates i, we've spoken to this concern is that i think i'll continue to kind of, um, get involved in for so for, for example, of nigeria a depends on whether or not 80 percent of nigerians, a ribbon you comes from, people stand by today's because i want for us to get a picture of how urgent the climate change situation is. for millions of people in africa whose lives have really been up ended by the phenomena. seeing the rising waters, heavy rain full in somalia has ended decades of drought, but it's brought list to release them. i will be without them. we climb trees. pole

nights until morning. we were beating jerry kansas means to call for help. we put babies and the elderly and beds and our trees and slopes these floods have been going on for 2 weeks. i mean, not really know guy, because the line just hot and dry and concepts of the water that's been must of flooding. the families were already struggling off to 5 consecutive seasons of low with an average rain full sign to say the last 2 years of drought and the horn of africa well made at least a 100 times more likely a much stronger due to global warming. the world bank estimates that mold a 9500000 live stock across the board of africa have died. hundreds of thousands of people in somalia were driven from their homes and to make shift to come like this one knew the town of the door to escape the dry conditions. experts say it's people

like these 2 of them, the least to contribute to climate change. the tip facing the front of the impact we are in the world know where the little bit countries the same country that uh uh you see the one meaning for me to get you an action by us concerning applying the stand up loss in damages, the trout fishing is because of that, it may show loss from damage, continues to be a big topic at the climate conference in to by last year, industrialized nations agreed to develop the funds to help poor nations deal with the effects of global warming. extreme weather events like flooding and drought, and so called slow onset impacts like sea level rise. negotiate just have agreed that the world bank will manage the funds initially. but they've yet to decide how much money should go into the pot, which country should get it? the critics say the whatever is promised is i'm likely to be enough.

developing countries have put for a proposal. they have this thing. they need at least $100000000000.00. well, you might wouldn't be 30 and that is not being acceptable to which countries, but unfortunately, that's the reality. i must emphasize the scale of impacts having to use because of the inaction in the past. will discussions of financing continue? communities in somalia facing the realities of oklahoma in plummets despite the initial clutches, it could still be sometime before they see any compensation for what they've lost base. tell us about the agreement that's been reached at club 28th to help poor a nation like somalia cope with the impacts of climate change.

christine, so we have to go back to the last year in the show, much like in egypt, a couple of the 7 those disagreements that ah visa, most of them it just looks on damaged one would be sent off and this year you know, find out like the use of agreed on, on how that would be. we understand that it would be under the auspices of the well bank and money would put debt by developing an industrial countries. and also countries like golf, countries like the u. e. and countries that are involved in also for a spike, the exploration and this money would then move to countries like somebody uh, contest like maybe uh uh you know, countries that have affected by drought affected by extreme war. the config countries also that are affected by rise and sea level and, and see coming into the cities and communities plays

a big part of the climate change conversation is everybody having a voice and i want to get a sense from you from what you're hearing from the african representatives at this time it's, do they feel that effort? his voice is being heard in this conversation, given that this is the confidence that is worst affected by climate change, what i think it's not just the public. his voice has been heard is east africa has voice is in on time. for example, we've just spoken about the last and the one that has been set up here. it has been agreed of $48.00 in device, but this has been 30 plus. he is a common conversations of the conversations and so for a lot of the applicant that it gets as much as to the voice and i know being who it is. sometimes the voice and the code on time will actually does this a lot of talk without without action, but for some of the african delegates that we've spoken to be his assistant,

that they would continue pushing. that would continue making deposition class on noon to the rest of the world like to read, be pointed out because he's the most affected cost of content and when he comes to defects of climate change and that's going to be less than 5 percent of global myisha right, that is our for someplace else as the cop $28.00 summit for us. thank you. blaze. we appreciate your efforts. at cope $28.00 countries will also be trying to iron out the details of how to establish the international trade of carbon credits. carbon credits are a financial instrument used to reduce and entities carbon emissions of several countries, including south africa and kenya are basing on this to boost revenue. so here's a quick explanation of how the system works. a government or a company struggling to reduce its emissions and the climate targets can compensate by funding a climate friendly project elsewhere. for example,

a factory in europe can find a tree planting initiative in an african country to my next guest is here to talk more about carbon credits with us. stanley kim are older we, i'm, it is an indigenous peoples lead up from the messiah community. and can you're welcome to dw and use africa stand, the so called in credits. they sound like a win win for everybody. a sort of like a real concrete way to have big images pay for their pollution and that money going into environmentally friendly projects. now, is it as straightforward as last? it may sound se followed by the reality is quite to the contract. that basically to cover the markets in the want, one is a so called a compliance grade level of the marketing post by the student. there's so much of a low. and this is the guidance and the now and this one is a little tiny couple of which is basically an industrial test. was concerned about

a that a condition as it meet us. and want to be politically incorrect by showing this certificate of offsets the cost by adding to what they call net 0. so postal 0 emissions. they just want to balance increase on meet 10 metric tons of come on. i have a certificate elsewhere for 10 metric tons of color in the main most projects in can uh those under the tiny couple of market with very utility regulation based on market talked us both the develop us of project the verify us of emission reduction only. so i'm, i can talk about the interest and in profit. and this community is a way of what this, you know, very little information on what the hell, signing up for the i thought this is free money money for you know, but it's,

it's really free of cost of one. so ninety's for holly grace for what, you know, what you have as a new one, maybe seen communities, they use things for fencing, sometimes branches and so on. and all of this on out seeing those couple. and for us, i know just about a couple of the most we trinity there about the house they had about tommy. so all these the visions of nature in countries. but what is on the table is just the obstruction of this abstract property called coupling in communities. of very little information, so they don't engage from a point of information. it is not a mutually respectful. it would have a lot of intimate days of power differentiation based on knowledge or the product knowledge of the market. knowledge of the system and access to markets which

communities and where standing from that perspective been if these, if tweaks could be made to the curb and markets, like, for example, in the conversation that's going to be headed cop 28. if some of these concerns could be addressed and perhaps these things could be fixed, but would that potentially be an opportunity to have a real win win situation? been with the comp and credits? well, i think i, i told her yes, great with the young lady that the claimant is in a crisis, and we need to think about a solution that's the money and, and that was probably, you know, they have the site is one of the greenhouse gases, according to science and you need to do something, but i think we must focus the primary sources of these couple of emissions. we need to think about that because the challenge of combination reduction

in territorial come on for example, is we have to come to these general behavior. yeah, i see money t that identifies and coordinates for these to be permanent even. and i don't see you monday to come into that one position across the initial in states across people. groups that this nature is what else we stayed. i would stay hungry and let the priest on because i want to save the planet club and quite a mock. it's all going to be on the agenda at cop 28th. what would you then be advocating for in this regard? i want to unhook it for those who are highly polluting those tween pop. these stories kindly contribute to the problem can change how they do development to shift from high company intensive the production system based on falsity for

including, for example, the host country here in new buying, which is the email that i've been with. it's hosting the colton. th shift to renewable energy shift to wind shift to sunlight and the hydro, which are relatively more renewable and less company intensive. but by choosing not to shift from the main source of coupling, we had us, you know, delay, you know, plus pointing to solution. and going closer to that disaster and prices that could be one california. so i would say, you know, like, the way to reduce that, like you would tons of communities by minimizing that, right. and then in the playstation, all that long enough searching is tons, finding the but dental pollution to communities will have the least come on

footprints and let people know who does with the highest responsibility for pollution. right? that is stanley k martin. olivia, i'm, it's thank you so much for sharing your insights of us here on dw news africa. thank you very much for having in kenya, some innovative is all working on time. it relates to projects to make a difference, even as raising capital remains a challenge. the w's, edith kamani reports from nairobi. when eric will see the co founded eerie, his goal was to make farm is reach. he and his team produced irrigation and want to have a sting systems. and they're working to integrate artificial intelligence, mobile networks, and sensors to enable ultra precision. i'll try efficient funding. but getting the financing they needed was no walk in the park. specifically of an africans desktop trying to develop something innovative. it's really tough and i think for as it was

just done with the lens, you know, we kept walking with the few resources that we had. and i think we all, all of the profits and that we make as a company, we all is injected back to the business. so we the few resources that we had does what we kept using and kept going in its 1st years of operation. we'll see what is company secure support from the african development bank and the world bank. the financing was crucial to getting products to market and to farmers like robot was secure. he strawberry farm runs with a simple irrigation system powered by solar energy. he called the system from both serious company for a one time cost of around $450.00. i must just doing that as i know because i feel so happy because i'm making a profit. so i'm going to, you see, my children are going to school and i'm eating. well, don't you think i look healthy? one of my children is now in university because of this funding and invest. also be

a member to a bachelor son, turns from waste into fuel. initially, she relied on friends for financial support. a company, bright green, is now well established producing renewable because to replace chuckle and firewood . queer business is when is when you start to get money from the customer because that means that you produce enough value for somebody to say to have a 1002 legs. i could buy at time. i could buy food or i could buy a product and they chose your product because you're product of us the most value. i think that's what we should start to send a beating invest, as opposed to send a beating how much money you have raised because we've seen money that has increased that really hasn't produced customers paying customers to son has been working on this since 2016. so has boots up enough business momentum that you know, finds it easier to secure financing. this means she can work with the invest as

well. so for every type of climate impact of a profit, a vincent, carrie founded motto, who capital a social enterprise to fund small, local and green businesses. he would like to see more african investors funding climate projects on the continent. we obviously, as a financing and to bring those in africa, then a means the end us understand the environment and they come up instead of uh, you know, a product that, you know, fits, you know, these markets add because the other thing that we have with the international fund that is the mist months we do understand that market. so if you have a local solution, i think that will be, you know, a good thing for the end to premier was let's see, we got his company up and running with funding from regional and global sources. he'd like to see more local options for the next generation of climate innovative. the 2023 gym and africa award has been given to a women's piece pad form from kenner and 1st national limits convention for peace.

and cameron is an alliance with a team member organizations that represent the 10 regions of kind of in the alliance has a mr claim, women space and peace building processes now and getting the prize this year. it's been recognized for the contribution it's made in promoting dialogue. for peace and reconciliation in the country. conflicts and violence has significantly affected women and children in cameras. one of the windows is sally bullying. she's receiving the german african award on behalf of the women off the platform. for her part. sadie is the founder and executive director of one of the alliances organizations. it's called common action for gym. the development there with focuses on women and goes and strides to reproductive health. and sally's bloomin joyce, me now here in the city, it's grace heavy on these. i'll be in use africa walk, i'm sending you live and do you a word from amanda?

that's an english speaking cameron. it's a part of the country way with separate sufficing to create an autonomous state that's resulted in years of conflict. could you just start by telling us about the challenges women in from, into all facing with the coming of going conflict in the man the, we may have lost the size of livelihoods. they have gains new responsibility added button ok. given the i also am the middle of the conflict because the a being harassed 6 really more listed because part of the dynamics of the call. so it gives of talking women to show. so pre missing. so this we've made a half now had multiple rules to carry out and cp kindly we meant in this room in that community. women who do assist in funding for a living of teacher training to be able to feed their families with this new them. then i mix this with me and i'm not able to find themselves coupled with a watch condition or structures or we, we may be in a school that in leadership. and can you tell us about how through your foundation

you're helping to address these challenges? um, come on actual fridge and that they put them in the lease, in the professional women need believes and giving them access by respecting the sexuality and the other. for those who feels like it's so we've all of these we are struggling to bring together this. we meant to have like support system to discuss with each other. okay, what is happening within the community? we try to push this. we meant to bring the voices into spaces where discussions i mean to kansas. we try to support them to discuss about the, i mean that's extra opened up to fails because we realize this is a pool issue that they need to be addressing if they have to actually in their fruitful state. and shall we have these community outreaches where we, we work in communities. we have community mobilization to respond to govern us issues that are taking place within the community. because we believe that there is

a life post conflict. and if we don't suck preventing women and goes to not look as yes, actually see as something to exclude them, but something to include. there were some uniqueness in the whole conversation i've, i've read a little bit about the work that you're doing and it's really, it's inspirational stuff. and i wonder as you sit here today as a community, the, when you look back at all the work that you're doing back, what are your, what is one of your highlights? the highlight is like changing the ritzy, where i bought young girls to be able to talk to municipal authorities at the level of the local council, telling them exactly how the one health services to be given to the expiration. the family planning units on the use of contract section we didn't, my country was very happy because that moment i could meet those skills to be able to if i've written those services by themselves, making decisions interact with those who are running those services and came up

with a policy brief, i felt like ok, this is, this is how people config. yeah, this to, into the a hands on this cause, the things that cause sensitive, which is something we can use for any of the through my teeth and tell you before you go, we had a few moments and i wondered if you could just share with our audience today, what this award means to you and for the hundreds of women that you are representing and receiving this award human opinion. women's work is usually some difficult work because of the point that makes around what it is, the recognition like this. but i want the cervical mission is to validation of the efforts of communion women who have been responding to the multiple crisis of our community. so it means a lot of nice more work because we have been recognized with this award. we need to move and continue. so the comment is selling boom in congratulations to you and all the women who have won this award. and thank you so much for being want you to be in use that. thank you very much. and that's it for our program today. be sure

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