in 16 minutes on d. w. what secrets lie behind these discovered mileage benches in 360 degrees and explore fascinating boats heritage selling dw world heritage 360. now hello and welcome to another episode of the 77 percent. my name is edith kimani, and this week we are in come from a town location in northwest and kenya on this week. so we're talking about what it means to be forced to leave your home and adapting to a life of not knowing if or when you ever go back. here's what it's prepared for you. we meet refugees and see how they're living in kenya and beyond. in south africa,

we'll find out what drives been appropriate instead of communities. and we'll meet with zillow, because while i dictate a property, a career, you've got an office live in cambridge. so let's begin right here in talking about . it's a small town, a few hours from the border to south to done, and it's home to one of kenya's, 2 largest refugee counts. now the camp was established in 1992 and it's home to nearly 200000 refugees and asylums. because when we some of them during the show, but for now, this is nancy mckennie. she's an aspiring model and students who have lived here for 7 years and wants to be a voice for her community. so surely. who went to then her to show us around my name is when i'm a student and what else? and this is my tone. we're in customer small town and can is very remote and i read

all the time and look at sound lies in the homeland of the past release to kind of community. but in the last uh, 2 years, it has to come to around 200000 refugees living in the sacraments of coma and kind of bringing the hash climate to discuss it to you over sources like water and food, make a couple months, no easy place to leave for both locals and procedures with people from places like south to down to 90 and d. r. c. customize the mix of peoples each with their own markets and community. this is one of the main markets and customer. this is where you can go to any of the applicants and i'm also of the others that coupon good time. maybe you if you want your blo, sorry for your house with new people arriving each week. kuchma is a place in motion. run by the canyon government together with the u. n. the combs have become a long time home for many, once registered here, most refugees leave within the comp and tone boundaries. on the traveling to other

parts of kenya if they get special type of permits. nancy leave to you as a refugee for 7 years. at the age of 18. she and her 2 young assist as was separated from their mother and flipped their home in south to done her life change too much because she grew upfront. but when i used to have someone is telling me do this to that. i know. yeah, it's me who's doing the opposite. i'm, i'm self serve and i'm done. not telling my siblings to do this and do that to stop by. this is good. so you should follow this bus instead of the other, like many young refuse here. her life as she knew it was due to him hold. before the war broke out, nancy had almost completed high school, but she and kenya agreed to i to accept it. she had to go all the way back to 6th grade. to 1st gets her kenyon primary school certificate. i said to me as home, cause i sorry to it's ridiculous like i chose, but for me to restart from chrome, i need that was already in high school in spanish and probably most finishing my

high school. so its been a tough young this is vice quoted price time, so great secondary school. and we host close the rough edges under his community. here. we are prepared for kenya and miss renee some nation. it's a fine, a, a for us, the phone size and it's, it's such a kid that determines the unit during college to an advisor. when good grades can be a good tweak to a better future. the one thing that nancy has 90 and kuchma is to be resilient and speak out for ourselves and others taking part in local beauty pageants and representing how community has given how this platform. it helps me the remodel young guns out that they are women out there. what was to have like because they still under the cultural practices where they say, i mean i dominated, then they don't have the voice to speak out for themselves. holding the ball low is not an option financing. she has to be enrolled in order to her sibling and stands

out, whether it's through modeling, or as one of the only women on the basketball court. this is where she spends her evening playing gold canyon. and as a thank you for letting me show you are, i hope to see you next time by most if you do hear dream of lives elsewhere, maybe through left or hardware that could cause a chance to go abroad. it's happened before. and so the use of customer and kind of way keep the goals. wow, thanks nancy. so we've just seen what a vibrant place the customer refugee camp is despite the fact that most people here go through some dramatic experiences. but we wanted to meet a few people living here. so we've come to see a rehearsal of a very, very, very special project, the cold cock, them a sound and you're going to hear them before you feed them. so as

the, the we've just heard from customer found and here with me is pretty. yeah, i hope i'm seeing your name. right. all right, and you're the chairman of calculus sound. we've just been listening to. right. yeah. tell me a little bit about the group and the instrument, but you playing this little piece combined on nationalities and uh we call our sales stuff in my salary bank. yeah. how many nationalities are represented here? so yeah, of the 6 semester 94 of us, 6 nationalities. i'm seeing here, republican democratic of congo. and i and deal from uh,

rudy. so when we get into the house. yeah, yeah. oh fantastic. so how did you come up with the ideal for me, the group here as a refugee come, you know, uh because uh we are coming from a different international dc, though i know it impacts on some, some of us. so yeah, no, no the, the kind of chair. so now we're coming to the idea how we can just, you know, tell us 10 to the bands that you've gotten to now know each other and you said i could do. i'm not done. i know everybody's got it. yeah, yes. a. but when i walked in here, i'm looking at your face now. you own looks to joy for you know, is that what this music does for you, or why do you do it? yeah, this music somebody made me just to be very, very happy because no, i'm enjoying at the odyssey called the this i don't go now. i'm enjoying to play. combined is to use the kindest also that using. yeah. uh, so don't go anywhere because we are coming back to with a few more questions. and because we're talking about music, we're going to cross over to you gunned,

and i think you're going to like the story of this incredible guitar. it's, let's watch a good spot that got it. i was missing it that it didn't because i was taught number one, know, came of the, of the my, my, these in 23 came into the on for i was even go my at that time, that is how i was for i was supposed to leave home, then you're going to be came home, just select that, the idea like you have to be simple, you up to be what you have to behave with people because value from your, from me,

you are alone. and how do you create your, on your own from to be with the people at land. how about people in the lives up to land? a new life, the w w. b, i bit that version of me so hard to start searching. how can i continue being a bit by the terrace, which i became because since i came in and got that, to be honest, you weren't crowns bridges that eastern. i'm not, i'm on the people want to give up on life. just want to give up on their dreams thinking it would never happen. no. to happen by the way. it to happen because i've been there. and i'm here to tell you that the dreams, this is the

. all right, so we've just had some of the incredible guitar is what he was doing in the country . but we're still here with for the c a and the beautiful sound of kuchma. and i just wanted to ask you, you know, you have so many nationalities here with so many background. and i know the to say piece is what is uniting all of you. but how do you marry all these cultures together? when you're making decisions, when you're writing your song. yes, uh, you know, when we, when, you know, i know a beginning, there was a very, it was very, very, very hard for me to, to help with this or less another 2 together. but now to music, when i was playing my music, i met with the companies, people that knew operating together. yeah. so out of the, for the, i know, thinking about that sound died now enjoying and adjusting change. so when you look at the state of the world right now, a lot of people are fighting because of one reason or the other. and what do you

think kuchma can teach people about leaving home on your be together despite your differences? and you know, uh what, what's a couple of my phone been candidates? adoptee pointing to one is just when you don't know somebody is. gotcha, this is amazing. you send us, send some people at the destination on a sunday because they don't know each other. you know, because of now we are leaving to get on to be offended. music to get that. now we are adopting that. the collector. i know now the setup that i they know my culture . that's what i will know. we are even going to home when you wait under this. yeah . yeah. and you told me how long have you been cling together? use it now. it is now too. yes to yeah. yeah. so maybe you could tell me the role of music when it comes to integration. you've talked about that. what's communities? has this made it easier to have conversations between the 2? yeah. seems to be such a disc, this music. oh, nice to bunch. a couple. my sounds ideas you split our life to because yeah, because at before, why not know how to hands on to the kind of leaving. now to me is if we're not

staying together now we i know. yeah, that exceeded that, that the now we sat together and we just have a good conversation on the you know, one another. now we have a good, a good relationship with this. yeah. yeah. what's the biggest thing that you've learned since you joined this group? what that for you on that's to music icon just to be just a nice place because way i came from dell, i mean many stuff, but in fact my father died in this in genocide in london. 1994. something happened to me. very, very sad. now to music, when i'm playing this music to mention you to just to forget what bus to my life and that night i have a i have, i'm good thinking back to my to take go east to going to be but oh yeah, i like that. and speaking of the future, what's the vision for the good? so now with the vision of the difficult to down the, we need, we, we want just the want to know. now the messages are going to find out. if this is the same, like i bet people we have like we have, we can have the same, right?

we kind of do this, the same thing. what other people do? okay? yes. is it okay if i request for one? so yeah, it's okay. we are now wow, we're happy to kind of enjoy insight on this. okay, let's go the, the, the

so speaking of cultural mixes, it's no secret that south africans have long baffled the problem with the full bill . in the recent past until you me going to movements have gain significant traction . i mean, even some people from within these movements and now questioning these extreme ideologies. so i'll call it to south africa, met some of the young people who up to actually be running against foreigners in the country. i know mobilizing for integration, for these same for nationals, a black on black racism, immigrant versus citizen, that's become all too common in south africa with the way that our parents speak to us. they have labels put in those as people who come into this country, antique. what actually belongs to us like provide here experience. right. these still have that and on how things was done. even on the safe side i'm,

i think can south africa's younger generations over comes in a phobia. now is becoming listen, was split deeply that setting each other. so went to south africa. see, putting show nice. what has been looking for jobs since he finished school 3 years ago without experience or a degree? it's mission impossible in a country with the world's 2nd highest youth unemployment rate. and it's so nice when i started planning foreigners living in this community, believing that they are to blame for the misery of young people. these thoughts he knows today didn't come from no way, took them over from his parents. so with that, i grew up with the new south african. yeah. and that's good. so when i, when i, when i found out the multitude of this it was out of an idol on employment.

you know, and i thought to myself know, this is being shown use for a joint operation. do the which means kicked out or pushed back. the radical empty immigrant group, which recently registered as a political party, is linked to vigilante is a new things and general violence against foreigners. they blame foreigners for setting drugs, taking their jobs away and occupying social housing. but so a nice while i had 2nd thoughts when you witnessed how this shop was brutally new to people claimed for practice, sony shop own a sold drugs to children. they stole him to the premises and stole everything. i'm not i would like to use uh, i'm not proud at all because when i think about this, it makes, it makes us less, you mean? yeah, it makes us less you mean and to, to,

to think about the way we talk about is that the freed cans. yeah. but now if someone comes in size to make it easy and you see that as a negative theme of testing, that means we're not doing the same features of the can. well, but to means i am because you all, i can only be a human being if i treat others with dignity and respect. this is also the principal, so key. so i'm tom, go live by who we meant at home. and so went to every week, the 21 year old student is making food for people the need for the elderly, the young for south africans and foreigners because they come from the we have uh from up the african continent or whatever they come from to get help from my the neighboring from other neighboring countries. so if we don't have them then who will hate trade against foreigners has

a history in south africa, deadly riots and 282018 guild scores of people. sadly, xenophobia is on the rise again with 2020, to accounting for 117 shops looted and searching a depth and back home again. tongue go says she believes that xenophobia is connected to a laundry, a generational conflict. she is a born free, someone who grew up on the democracy. her mother though, lived through apartheid or racist regime that brutally oppressed and exploited black people. her mother recently joined operation to do to the horrible experience of oppression and tongue believes is part of her mother's hatred against foreigners . her mother still remember the don't fuss a racist identity card that determined web black people could work and live. now i'm still fighting a fight. they think i'm 5 to work for my life

because my i was just as a fighting for the bus. now i'm fighting for the stocks to, to my does get out. we went through that with freedom so bad. now if you don't hear now from fights and freedom, you have to fight and things of what come things that come with the freedom are often so nice. why left operation to do lie? he finally found a job. so nice why it helps out in a corner supermarket, owned by a mozambique and trader. the owner does not want to be film shop has been looted a few months ago. and the fears this might happen again. the fact that the new swat has been given a job by people he once blamed for his misery is underlining that migration in many cases is not a burden. but the benefit for the economy of south africa. we are all i say can. and if we are, or if we all want to eat to, we should, we should put it, we should be in a table around it just in

may. 2023. you're going to pass one of africa's most draconian laws against them was sexuality which can result in long jail sentences. and in severe cases, even the death penalty is just cause more and more members of the eligibility. few i plus community in uganda, just because i live in countries like kenya go into hiding. i'll try and make a living an as though, like half a day, are you going to an artist and career rights activist who they are? couple and i was lucky enough to get what gemini, with a now living together with that child me. i mixed into my own country, you know, to be able to get my visa thoughts. it in many ways it just felt like we have somehow become like, become refugees in our own country where you're kind of staying to you know,

safely. i'm villa a property. i was the 1st openly, none been there would be a photograph from uganda. it's been a few years since dw 1st met papa d. back in can paula, i'm building a photo career pool. try and clear life in uganda. since then you get into which has always been a difficult place for members of the eligibility care community has become a virtual no, you guys are. in april 2023. you're going to cost an antique a lot, which can sentence anyone, dean does gate to at least 10 years in prison. and can extreme cases even lead to the death penalty from outside the country. poverty became one of the most vocal. you can voices against the new norm. what do you have any any, any basic needs that one. we showed the housing

lender, human being simultaneously, the pop of the south african visa was running out and they had to secretly return to get to, to renew us, leaving that child miles behind. they want to me that if i retire and i, we will be a reset of the airport because of, you know, my work on is with the advocacy that i was doing. i, i was like really sad wired and i, i, i've been involved in di cuz i knew this was probably that i come back by the world like a 5050 chance both knew that like us, knowing the same as when i go for a week. you know, it's why can we know that i'm coming by this time is just like what if anything happened? you know, what if anyone recognized me and decided that you know, that was the i chose to get rid of me. papa d made it out and just months later,

they started another chapter of them life. they moved to building from here for a year and i'm doing the notice residency they've continue the photography, released the film and want to start a postcard. and we have people leading an excellent the older of projects is about documenting. clear mike runs especially people of color from different backgrounds. you know how they come together in um, realizing and navigating spaces away from home. i know that these a lot more people died. uh, one thing to leave the home country is because they have been forced to be rescued . isn't that one country or like the feel spastic. you shouldn't, you know, because of their identity and sexuality. and while different gender and sexual identities are definitely more accepted in the mean, i kid comes with its own challenges of fishing in as a migrant getting the right paperwork, finding a new school, a place to stay. 3 properties, well they have a year long residency permit,

but what happens after that is still in session? i don't have any plan be, so i have to push forward. but a site level would definitely be the last last thing i would ever tools for possible from uganda. right. if they hear that, oh my god, property is in dumber and right. they don't know the details. when has it ever been easy for you or anyone to walk up and leave your family, leave your life or the life that you've known, your livelihood? to go to us range for any place that you've never been to start over. the news from uganda worries property, people being charged with homosexuality, others evicted from their homes and communities. poverty continues to speak up and support where they can well building a new life for themselves and miles and i got to, oh, my hold for me and miles is to continue being free, you know, to continue leaving

a lot with things like as well. we wish papa d o the best and that marks the end of us. so good news is you can find mobile shows. yeah. and while you're at it right to us, well, and youtube is to grab and click talk. so i know we promised you that would come back with a musical elements just for nice. yeah. listen, i did not disappoint and i did not lie. do you see what's it up behind me? you're never, ever going to forget this month by was. thank you for watching by the

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