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are us republicans and allies of hunger is prime minister, big or bon united in their desire to end aid for ukraine. it's controversial, but it's no surprise. hunger is prime minister is known for booking the trends, especially here in europe, and he's about to do it again. the european union meets later this week and it could give the green light for ukraine to start membership talks. now this could happen, but thanks to hungary, it probably won't break off in berlin. this is the day the, the weird, this thing is that hungry has consistently for the kids being at the front line of supporting ukraine succession to the union. the position of hungary has indeed been very, very deplorable of at the costs of the past months. congress positions position right now is showing say,
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a challenge. the only way i can read on gary and position, not just on your price, but on many other issues. is that the are the games, europe and everything video. that's also coming off the french president macro and wants to tighten immigration rules at the same time. keeping france attracted to skilled workers. can you do both at the same time, a face to face and coming to looking for a back to life and will not be deterred by tougher semi great syndrome. which of our viewers watching on tv as in the united states and to all of you around the world? welcome. we begin today with growing fears and ukraine, that for an 8 and shipments and for an weapons are about to become a thing of the past. the question, just how reliable are ukraine's allies when he comes to aid in the fight against russia? now this week, a high level and you talk to brussels,
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could decide the fate of a promise, 50000000000 euros, and 8 the key, as well as additional money for new weapons shipments. ukraine is also hoping for an invitation that would officially start the leasing process of becoming a member of the european union. it's important to note that in the european union, any agreement on those key issues, it has to be unanimous and hungary is prime minister, victor or bon. he's been signaling that he is not ready to fall into line or bond is widely considered. one of vladimir approaches, closest allies in europe, and one of the few leaders who has not sided with ukraine tonight across the european union. there is dismay. the budapest might block support for ukraine's battle against its russian invaders. here's the german transfer or watch schultz in berlin. i'm just as entrust customs. this is something that really needs on collective efforts. then we have these. what if we formulate this message from your, from the community of european international friends. as a board is of ukraine,
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you know, and it's also a message to the russian president and the board shift. i mean, also some president on task and it would be a very important message if we told him, don't count on it seems i'm finished i'm. it's the ukraine spreads of the bottom is zalinski had a chance to air his concerns over you support when he came face to face with hunger as prime minister victor or button in argentina. now both man, we're in the windows are days for the non duration of the newly elected argentinean president hobby or the late they were seen here briefly exchanging words with each other. oh, if we could only hear. so lensky later said that it was a straightforward conversation focused on ukraine's and european affairs. getting back to you, greens, at presidents landscape facing, pushed back from hungary and from some us lawmakers. so lensky is now in washington dc at a crucial moment. we're time funding for you crate is facing political head winds.
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with a $61000000000.00 package is still stuck in congress. and he says this deadlock is only helping russia if this and it was inspired by honors tools to issues on capital hill is just put him and he's sick click. they see the dreams come through when they see that that delays or so when to get there on that sick click use. i mean as you have has more now on presidential landscape trip to washington. these things are directly connected in ukrainians minds. they know that the thing that's protecting them the most, especially behind the front lines mt of are these advanced weapons that are coming almost exclusively from the west. so you have the patriot missile system. also, the german made a air defense system, and there's
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a lot of doubt now coming from the us, which is not just ukrainians, ukraine's largest provider, but it provides more weapons than the rest of the world combined. there's a lot of doubt coming from the us now, the republicans, right wing republicans have taken over the house and saying that we're, they're not going to support ukraine and less bite and concedes on certain domestic issues. so that is absolutely why is it lensky? is there in the us, he's going to meet bite and tomorrow. he's also going to meet with the speaker of the house to try to work out a deal and save the aid for ukraine before the year ends. that's important to him. it's also important to this country and especially for when i'm talking to people in key. if they know that the, their skies are protected by these american made weapons, dw special corresponded. i mean, as of tonight in key, i mean thank you for the relentless onslaught. keeps the death toll in ukraine taking ever hire us officials reportedly, but the number of deaths and injuries including civilians. now at half
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a 1000000 estimates of the number of soldiers killed on the ukrainian side very between 35070000. and depending on the source, the number of killed russian troops could be as high as 300000. most sources put russian casualties significantly higher than ukrainian losses. some 100000 ukranian soldiers are thought to have been wounded in around 200000 russians. but these numbers, they count only physical wounds. they do not include the psychological dramas, the w, as max santa reports tonight from keep on a military army, good soldiers with mental resilience. these animals are supposed to make soldiers feel better. and it already shows that this is amethyst haze, very kind, gentle, and doesn't bite soul high level dog who is the founder of spirit warrior an
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organization offering therapy with horses to children and people with disabilities . now most of the participants are soldiers. all exam that has just finished basic training, so he will have to leave his home in his family to go fight. he knows what that means. but right now the anxiety is forgot. just totally. when you trust and unable to trust you, you might have and there is no fear if he wanted to bite me, he would have done it a long time ago. he just plays like a physical contact. it's important on the ground and, and the saddle. of course has had a proven calming effect on people. confident and relax tours can affect the move if it's writer. said that it was a shift. this is what gives a person
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a feeling of happiness when a person is in the space here. and now they can feel breathing, see what their sleep the reality and that it is more nothing made up and twisted. one not, not in the hall. the collection here at pablo psychiatric clinic, therapists are trying to help those whose experiences left them damaged. many here suffering the effects of concussion and post traumatic stress disorder. so and so why would they may sleep for just an hour or maybe 2 or 3? but there are constant slash facts, memories of what happens. there are low moods, emotional mood swings, and anxiety, state, and city wars and us vomit exercise helps says, go to beginning runs the rehabilitation program for soldiers. the program is designed as a quick fix to help soldiers get back to their units in a few weeks. not everyone will match
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a land was among those defending the as of still still plans. and matthew polt even spoke with the channel for tv during the siege. when the russian seized the plant, they took him prisoner to arms. they total, they beating you on the leg. i didn't know one day and they come to us and we had the dog. and the and the dog attack us, it was 12 months before he was released and could go home for the 1st few weeks. it's been very good. you know, i have a hide my mood. yes, i have a gen line that i came home a see my wife, because you see my family, my friends,
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but that high did last long. i can tell you that it's only depressed it's and you know it's depress, it is the all, all in one. you know, for his wife only says it's painful as well. he is no longer the man she wants married. but sharing, when he went through does help. he also takes medication. now i can sleep sometimes and yeah, night matters. and they still, they still in me nightmares, come back gifts, anxiety, panic attacks. just a few of the symptoms plaguing many, many training soldiers. doctors have been struggling to keep up the non stella punch that were in february 24th 2022 quarters by surprise. and most doctors have to prove but as fast as possible, the hold on the liquidity phone,
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which is the outlet and the free lunch quickly and effectively, to provide the complex assistance recovery and provide cic, electrical and psychiatric support to get normal in a secure patient who originally spoke of it and then the more back up the stables, the new soldiers, no, some won't come back from the front and that many who do will be changed forever. now though they stuck up on warm memories to take with the dw xbox. it's under reporting there. my guest meal has made a career focusing on human rights and mental health. roberts and board is chief executive of the federation global initiative on so like how i entry, he's an honorary member of the ukrainian psychiatric association. mr. ben boring is good to have you with us. before we start tonight, i would like to read something that you wrote in late march of 2020 to you, right?
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so i'm watching what is happening now makes my heart bleed and it keeps me awake at night. i am worried about my friends and about the fate of the consumers of mental health services, who are terrified by the indiscriminate bombing. and that was about a month into this more nearly 2 years ago. what goes through your mind when you hear those words read back to you now? uh, nothing changed is still exactly the same. and i basically live to war and ukraine. i try to do what i can do. i'm supporting my friends both in the front and the ones that are trying to help those who are suffering from the consequences of this war. and i don't though, you got to use it a little bit to a bleeding heart, but of course it's very difficult and especially the knowledge that there's more is not going to and very quickly it's going to last. and if you calculate on the basis
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of the fingers that we have, what the consequences are going to be in the long term. and this is absolutely shocking. it's something that we haven't seen in your before since the 2nd world war. and the award that is now being for it is very similar to the french for a northern friends during the 1st world war. and so from history, we know the consequences and how do we prepare a country for the life after this work to do with everything that is now all the damage that is now being done? it's, it's all around us. it's a windows. are you talking about a collective trauma here, the whole country experiencing the same trauma in that trauma coming? not from what has happened, but from the fear of what could and probably will happen. you know, i'm very hesitant of using the word from all the time because it's
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a very kind of fashionable word. um in general, i think people mankind is very resilient. we can survive a lot. um yes, we are depressed. yes, we are panicking. yes, we have depression, but with things in place we are managing to survive that and recover from it and continue life. what is important to it's the possibility of having your family and having the work, having the roof over you have been continuing your life. so these are very basic things to, you know, reduce the number of people that have long term psychological consequences. but if i look only at these people fighting at the front me, you know, we're talking about 60700000 ukrainians with the frank line experience. and this is not just a, it's not a normal front. it's a, it's, you know, imagine the images of the, some in northern friends in 2016, 201717,
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this is what we're dealing with right now. so these are dennis on tens of thousands of ukrainian service men. the men, women, many of them very young, who will have long term consequences and will need to get the support. and then the whole issue is that these fighters, they come back home to have a family, so the family is affected, the community is effective. and so this is a, a huge problem for which the country has no system in place. yes, there are lots or wonderful initiatives. there are lots of people who are doing really all the best they can. but if you calculate that may be between 1020 percent of those finding of the front will need professional help. we're talking about, you know, up to 120000 people right now. the most of these are huge numbers and you're going reminds me of the, the discussions that were,
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were held in the united states after the vietnam war and how that countries health care system, mental health system failed. it's returning veterans, it but what you're talking about in ukraine, we know that even before this war, ukraine's mental health system restrained and now or more has been put on top of that. it mean it almost sounds like this is an impossible task. you know, it's, yeah, it's, it's, it sounds like impossible, but it also is a very good opportunity. um veterans, us veterans that came back to the united states came to a country which was a fairly, i would say wealthy which could afford the system. ukraine will be the very poor uh, partially destroyed, with a health care system or a mental health care system which was outdated before the start of the invasion. many professionals have left so a deficit of mental health care professionals. but it also means that there's
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crisis you can use in order to bring about a, a shifting paradigm, which is that instead of a psychiatrist centered psychiatry, you can develop, develop one, whereby you have lots of disciplinary approaches where you use veterans for peer to peer support because they are the ones who can fluid, they understand what veterans are talking about. and so this actually might be the moment that, that's what we hoped for or tried for decades. we'll now finally be possible in ukraine and to build up a new kind of mental health care system. but it's going to take a major effort. well, at least as a positive point there. and i know a lot of people will share with you the hope that this, this paradigm shift that it takes place to the benefit of those soldiers returning home. mr. roberts been born, we appreciate your time and your excellent insights tonight. thank you. thank you very much. for inviting or across
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the european union, governments are moving to tighten rules on migration, and it comes as a number of irregular arrivals as they are called, continues to increase in france. so the government at present emanuel macro and is trying to push through and immigration bill despite opposition from the left and the right. the bill has been a big part of excellence efforts to be tough on law and order, but to still keep francis doors open to skilled for and workers data easily. so the reports about a cd is here to fight for his rights together with other undocumented immigrants. the 33 year old volume has been working in france for almost 5 years lately as a dishwasher using not his own name, but other people's papers for the legal loophole. the most of us on documented immigrants are using this method for paying social insurance fees and taxes with that benefiting from services such as regular public health care. the funny
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benefits the government treats as if we were nothing else. although we're doing all the dirty work center, also a construction site, including the ones for the power. so lympics next summer. there's also the he and others have been demonstrating against the bill for weeks. the new law was set to automatically give people like a smart, a, what consecutive with a labor shortage, a one year working permit. instead, these decisions will continue to be taken on the case by case basis. the protesters are also opposing a new rule, which will make it possible to explode my goods, who have committed crimes, even if they arrived in fonts before the age of 13 unions and 8 groups are pulled off the table 5, the restrict, the possibilities to obtain legal papers and deployed even more means to cross down immigrants hold on the, to read it and expelled them. that would even concern immigrants who have paid for
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the immigrants of being labeled as criminals and even mainstream politicians and now being outright xenophobic, not just the fall, right. if i go to the next come what it's all right, talk to you. some of them want us to know it is predicted to come 1st in next year's european elections. and so politicians seem to be out to grab right wing bates with what is fall from frances 1st immigration, low cost more than $100.00 to make rates for lowes. and some people decide, some of them are supposed to be other rates tricks, but accidents have been sending me. that'd be changed just to have, have you talked to folks the number of immigrants per year coming to from looking for a back to life and will not be deterred by tough but send me a great syndrome. but the government says the bill will be effective and
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that it's balanced li come before us. it does well the best and the a french people no longer need to be afraid to be. we'd be able to expel foreigners who have committed crimes who ship multiplication with these 2 and company bosses will be able to keep on working with people who respect our values like a whole system in the us day and have the right to that day to see why the gal, diesel play? you might want me to the mix of things or what was that he provided you on the however, a smart, a 1st and foremost, sees the new rules as extra hurdles for him to rebuild his life. in france. see, describe a little more that permit would enshrine modern slavery into law, and by some, as we would need to work in that one job to keep the work permission tucker, want to choose the job we work or destroy the good company to offer. he's determined to bottle for a better future. it ended up easily. now. she joins me. she just balled up before
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she's here in the studio with me. at least you were telling me this is a major story today in france. what's going on right now with this bill? rent that have just been some breaking news actually. so this bill was supposed to be discussed to paula now for a couple of weeks, but the position filed a motion to reject bass before it be of debate. could stocks and parliament, and there were enough bates to wait for the rejection. so it has now if a debate is now hold to it. mm hm. and the bill has to go back to the sign aid or to a mix commission, or the government can drop it. it's a major setback for the position. the reason reasoning for money to block this bill is the interesting thing is that, you know, there's the less legal position on the far right on the right wing a position that will work together and the ones. yeah, it's quite right. yeah. right, right. i'm on one side said it doesn't go far enough. we don't want any immigrants that would be before. right. and then the left wing policy said no, you know, we don't want the split tool,
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it's too tough. it's cracking down and immigrants that we need. it doesn't represent him as immigrants, as we would think of them. you know, they are, we bought them here and they can contribute to our society. they didn't agree on the reasons, but the voltage for that, what can we say the in parliament, a majority of m. p 's are in favor of, of changing migration was, is that a statement that we can say? well yeah, but i'm not into the same and in the same direction and as i just said, so one task. so if the position actually wants that to be a tougher crack down the far right, just a moment us to not under former presidential candidate, marine the pen said, you know, we need to close down the, the, the borders. we don't want any immigrants here that or illegal that was criminals. and i'm really the fall after saying the opposite saying, and i read, we want them here. it actually shows that my current government is really struggling to get support for its bills for its draft. last as united since the parliamentary elections last year. and my client doesn't have an outright majority
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in parliament. and so they need other parties, especially the republican party, which is a conservative party. and for 2 of the 60 to republican, call them and tyrants voted to reject that was today. so what does this mean that for macro owns government? if he wants to get anything done, is he going to have to cuddle up a little bit to the right? or what are his options? you know, no one knows really actually, as i said, the options with this bill is gonna send it back or you just drop it or not debates again. but what can you do to actually speed up things or to, to, to streamline the whole put is it could place us that's actually not clear to or it's a major setback for him. it shows that he can actually bring the parliamentarians behind him, even when it comes to a draw flow, which is, you know, has been labeled as quite tough. yeah. but with the majority of the french in favor of that dropped off. yeah, it's a story we report about many times, i believe france here in germany and in, in the us as, as well,
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which is always good to have you with a studio. thank you. and finally, the human climate conference with you by is moving into its final hours and it's not looking good critics or angry over a draft final text which does not include a phase out of coal oil. and. busy gas the draft cause instead for reducing the consumption of fossil fuels. today a climate act that has stormed onto the stage to protest. so as you can see, the stage is set for a tense conclusion to the summit. and our environment team is indeed by the reporting and all of our platforms, you can follow the day on youtube. you do is you can follow me, brenda, off tv, and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see you then everybody the
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