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then she disappears without the phrase, the secret type queen has been accused of due folding victims. on the top 10 list, the cartel leaders in murder is a financial thriller about the world's most one to the woman crypto queen starts december 30th on dw. the science is clear in order to limit global warming, burning fossil fuels as, as we have for the past 2 centuries. it has to become a thing of the past. but how do we do that? and how long should it take? apparently, it depends on who was asking and who was answering in dubai at the cop 20 a climate summit. there is a angry and disagreement over the final paper that everyone is supposed to sign. a reference to phasing out fossil fuels has been removed. and critics claim, this is exactly what the oil and gas lobby is, have wanted all the law on board gulf and berlin. this is the day
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the this tax needs to be the beginning of and vicious arrows. the text includes all the elements we need for a comprehensive plan to 23rd. what we need is suppose actually a signal that we would use fossil fuels dramatically in the next decade. s wallace, pace it out by mid century. there are those who wants to phase out throw those one phase down there or what those who want different formulations, if there isn't an outcome of continued a from continued on facing out fossil fuels. this couple, the of failure. the point is to get a consent also coming up the politics of changing course in poland, the new prime minister, promising to repair ties with the european union, knowing it's easier said than done step of is i want to tell you that no one can
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now claim me into european union but to our viewers watching on cbs in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with climate talks and overtime and in trouble . after 2 weeks of talks to night, the international climate conference are due by it looks headed for failure. thanks to a seemingly unbridgeable divide over the future of fossil fuels. of the conference was supposed to be over by now instead, negotiator is are still trying to agree on the wording of the final paper that everyone signs. a 1st draft released on monday was rejected by some countries because it admitted any reference to a phase out of coal, oil, and gas, which scientists say are the largest contributors. by far 2 global warming, critics slammed the draft of text calling it a gift to lobby, as for big oil and gas climate activators. and former us vice president al gore,
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posted this on x or y used to be known as twitter. the world desperately needs to phase out fossil fuels as quickly as possible. but this obsequious draft reads, if opec dictated it word for word, it is even worse than many had fear. or think of course being the power for cartel of oil producing nations led by saudi arabia. and they've objected to any strong action against their trillion dollar industry. some reports suggesting this, all these pushed to drop any mention of fossil fuels altogether. the u i. e is hosting this conference and has tried to put a positive spin on everything. take a listen. and we are trying to agree a comprehensive plan to close the gaps between where the world is and wherever it needs to be to keep 1.5 degrees within reach. that is all know stuff that has been
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or no style or long. part of this is to include language on fossil fuels in the text. if we can, that would be his star or outside one of the been using the by active is kept up the pressure on the negotiators inside, demanding, and in to fossil fuels. a range of other measurements to reduce greenhouse gas emissions may be included in the final tax. but these protesters, along with more than a 100 countries, are saying now is the time to talk about ending the error of black gold known as or y 1st. yes it is. the climate change in human rights lawyer, tessa con, is the founder and executive director of, of lifting organization pushing to end the dependency on fossil fuels misconduct. good to have you with this tonight? i'm you've been following events in dubai. i'm sure i'd like to get your thoughts on what is happening at the conference, particularly the this outrage over the wording of this final text to
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yeah, i mean, show us, i think the negotiations are at an impasse in this. there is a clear recognition from the majority of countries in the room that as the science says, you cannot address climate change without addressing fossil fuels. the beginning of fossil fuels is what drives the vast majority of greenhouse gas emissions. so there is not a world in which we stay within that political threshold of $1.00 degrees that governments have a grades or without sizing out fossil fuels. but of course, there are a handful of big oil and gas producing countries as well as i think it's important to say a number of developing countries who don't think they should be made to phase out so. so people, we bass, supportive assistance, financial assistance from countries that have industrialized off the back of fossil fuels. so, you know, it's a very difficult point in the negotiations,
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and it's hard to say how the cult presidency can bridge dash the man in charge of this conference toll reporters. yesterday of that, the draft and text was a useful tool to determine the red lines for every country i. i heard him say that it and then i thought, well this is cop 28. i mean, we're not at cop one or 2. are we supposed to be beyond identifying red lines? what do you say? i agree with you. i mean, especially, you know, what we've been hearing, you know, in terms of what's required to meet the climate goals that countries have grades or, you know, in paris the start parents agreement way. everyone committed to staying within $1.00 degrees. josby see it. we've had again and again from the us and agencies from the international energy agency that you know, well where we started within 1.5 degrees we caught have more fossil fuels. so i agree that the red lines have been clear and that it is incredibly disappointing. to get to this point in the negotiations and not have a solution. let me,
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let me play devil's advocate a little bit here. the tech's called for the reduction to fossil fuels and a just orderly and equitable manner to achieve net 0 by 2050. even the mention of fossil fuels is historic, so i would say um, would you, would you grant that? yeah, i think, you know, it is true that's fossil fuels. as a whole, haven't been mentioned in a tech support. we've had a mention of coal in the last couple of years, so that is progress, but it is still extraordinary when, as i said, we now have that climate change is driven by dining and also feels that we are celebrating the new recognition. if that fact in that text, without a commitment to size the mouse on a timeline that is commensurate with what the science requires. and that indeed recognizes that some countries will need support to ensure that they live in serious economic trouble. if that transition happens too quickly, i mean, again,
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none of this is new. so i, i think we should wear, in time to expect to move from these processes and some ads. this outcome was inevitable. with a major oil producer, wind, the u. a, the united arab emirates hosting the conference. yeah, i understand that seriously them. i mean, it's true that there are been other countries that have major fossil fuel industries that have hardship costs before and we've had outcomes. but the fact i think the president of this call is still occupying a position to see or of a national company does. right? some real questions are that the integrity of the process? and i think the fact that the spot, as i said, the majority of countries warning and fossil fuel 5 that talked about language didn't appear in the last drop down thought to raise some questions. and you know, predictably there, there's been major opposition from opec nations. led by so the radio, how do you get to those nations on board if
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a fossil fuels stays out is so key to mitigating climate change? well honestly, you know, i think the one good bit of news in 2023 is that the economics of the 5 out of fossil fuels are increasingly strong. so the profitability, the fact that there is a massive economic imperative to ship to wife and both of you tools, renewable forms of energy. there is to monitor the technology exist, it is possible to scale those up. you know, i think you more than gas companies in oil and gas producing countries with serious about, say, a long time economic future. that would be pivoting their business models away from oil and gas and towards renewable energy. and the lower 0 top and technologies of the future because as i said, we are in position now. and the imperative exist beyond the climate change to move away from fossil fuels. and isn't that what, for example, saudi arabia has this project on 2030 isn't, isn't that what,
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what you're talking about a country built on petri dollars that is trying to basically change the dna of, of its economy. it's the right idea. but the fact is that at the international energy agency set just a few months ago, the oil and gas industry is still only responsible for one percent of the investment in renewables globally. it is an industry that is still overwhelmingly committed to extracting and branding fossil fuels. so yes, there are some signs of recognition that the future lies united alternative forms of energy, but the big oil and gas produces. and i should say, you know, in the u. k. where i m u k. government has just to prove to manage a new oil and gas field as well. so it's not just the gulf states to, i think doing absolutely the wrong thing here. so let's assume that the flames will continue burning. and the fossil fuel industry for it, for some time to come. there's talk about carbon capture as a solution. what's the problem with that?
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and so the problem is simply that it is not scalable. come actually in any way that makes it a technology that allows us to continue with business as usual. so there is a tiny amount of carbon capture and storage that is functional at the moment globally. and it would only capture a fraction, a tiny fraction. it'd be emissions that we're currently creating. and if you look at plans where we continue to the fossil fuels, as they increase expansion of fossil fuel production that relies on quantities of carbon capture and storage that, you know, we've had experts, again, like the international energy agencies. chair, say i simply fantasy it's not affordable, it doesn't exist that scale and it is a huge risk for us to rely on those technology materializing in the future. the scale that we made them. and what about the economic opportunities for the global south to leapfrog. but from there, from where they are right now in terms of generating energy and just to bypass
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fossil fuels dirty fuels and go to sustainable fuels. i'm thinking about africa for example. not everyone has to be nigeria with, with it's oil. the visa hard doesn't, there's enough surface area there. if you wanted to put solar panels there to power the entire continent. where is the economic imperative to make that a reality? oh, yeah, you're absolutely right. i'm in africa has hands down some of the best solar results is in the world. and, you know, let's be clear that bypassing fossil fuel development isn't just what's made is to present beside climate and, and confidence like africa. some of them are as vulnerable as the climate change in the world, but you would also have all of these other benefits including reducing evolution, which takes a massive tall especially in developing countries when coal and so on of us. so i think it's absolutely right that we should expect, that those countries embrace those opportunities. they absolutely do not need financial support and technological support from countries industrialized countries
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who have been promising to provide support for those countries to transition for many years now. and i think the best at the moment, the missing and gradient, as well as private investments for, for the private sector to ensure that they can sleep from 30 technologies and move straight to the claim. technologies just like on excellence, talking with you straight talking straight analysis about a situation, a problem that deserves everyone's attention. thank you. thank so much so both got your whole into use and will it be a key, strong saw from link of the north atlantic alliance. lowell stable ally to the united states confident in its reasons, confident and its strength. unimportant. some of the for the 1st god, poland will be gained the position of leader of the european union. the base that
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was published newly elected prime minister donald tusk, promising that warsaw will be a stable ally of nato and a leader in the european union. this marks a political change, of course, for the country of nearly 40000000 people tusks, centrist pro western government, replaces 8 years of rule by right. we anti easy populace task is also a former head of the european council. he has promised to one block of billions of europe. it was it is you age for his country aid that was frozen because of tensions between brussels and the outgoing polish government task is also placed support for ukraine high on his agenda. he has criticized european leaders for giving a voice to quote war the t sip of is, is i want to say that ponens task, the new government's task. but also the task of all of us is to loudly and firmly demand food determination from the entire western community to help ukraine in this
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more, i will do this from day one there go. yeah. my next guess now is you've seen it is on yaks. is a published political analyst and she joins me now from bloomington, indiana, it's good. they have you. where this to night, from the great state of indiana tusk is a known commodity in europe as well as in poland. i mean, there is this temptation to expect that to us. we'll be able to undo the past 8 years and simply move forward. in other words, put humpty dumpty back together again. is this expecting too much from him? a good evening them the thank you for the invitation. no, i don't think it's too much to expect from him. uh, you know, one of those gets not only that the cheap pledged to go back to the european union and then to bring full land again of the one of the european union.
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and so it's not only was about the, you know, those could be known for really contributing to the european integration for a, for many years. as you mentioned the in your, in your clip uh tools because the president of the european council, he was also the president of the european people spot paying the pen problem. and so this what it hasn't been doing for a, for a seminar. yes, she really prove that she's the pro european union leader, and this is the 2nd time the to the to is going to be the prime minister. and during his 1st of the, of the 1st minister of the prime minister. it was between 20072014. so, you know, poland was very much appreciated as the member of the european union. and the poland was for a very active and submitted. so that all initiate the if in the european union to
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strengthen the they were getting the gratian. so, in a nutshell, i would say this was one of those come is promising. has already he has been already doing 1st of all. right? yeah. what, what does he represent now that he is prime minister again? does this mean the questions about poland? perhaps not being a liberal democracy any more? can those questions can be simply be dispelled and removed and, and your end of stories. let's move forward to uh, you know, hope so. uh there will be quite a lot of things to do in order to restore the sofa, the reform that has been done by the law and just these. uh so that needs to be the legal on that that has to be approved by the problem and but go see that thing. but now the college impact is they've got, they've got the majority in the problem and i think it can be down. the ups that
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goes is, and this can be one of the difficult issue that see, you know, the president of poland is a, i'm sorry, google doc was affiliated with the line just days. and that she's got the instruments also to block somebody go on that can be approved by the, by the problem and by the presidential election in poland will take place next year . it went, it went the for. so hopefully, you know, there also be the president who you have a more the better on it problem. let me, let me ask you about that. you know, that you said due to is, is there, he's the president. there are still mechanisms in place that could block what mr. tusk would like to do with his government. um, how realistic is it then that his ambitions, you know, they, they could be hampered and limited to a significant degree moving forward. you know, some, uh, some, uh, acs can be for sure,
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approved even without the problem it can be just implemented by the government all up to solve this. this can be done so, so i, i wouldn't say that it's not possible. yeah it's, it's definitely possible to change some of those. the august has been implemented. but again, i would say there are still some challenges. go see that thing, but learn just these uh receive, you know, the, the quite large number of votes in the election. they go to more than 30 percent, then they've got the huge representation in the, in the problem and, and also with the president. but definitely what we can expect is the different style of the government a and the approach to the, to the partners. and i would say, you know, the doctors and, and the ministers because he also mention the names of the ministers of his, of his new govern government. they all pay a passion, you know,
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to the dialogue to corporation with the partners, to the compromise. and they know the poland as to the bait, those said, you know, that stronger the european community is the stronger poland is. let me just ask you really quickly. there's been this narrative that right wing parties are on the rise in europe is poland, and example. the book that trend i think so. okay, yes. so there is the far right spot seen in poland, but they didn't tries and they knew both the configuration but this far right vocalist party. they got more or less the same goals that they had the last time. and so i would say yes, the bowl length is the, is the example that the trends can be reversed. okay, you seem to is that jack talking to us tonight from bloomington, indiana. we appreciate your time and your excellent analysis. thank you. i thank you so much for having me. donald tusks,
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the 1st day back on the job as prime minister also had some controversy with an active anti semitism in the parliament building and mt from a far right party, used to a fire extinguisher to put out a hanukkah nor the menorah had been led to mark the start of the jewish holiday, the festival of lights, of the incidents delayed a vote in parliament's confidence in the 1st new capital to success. the action was a disgrace. it has been widely condemned, both inside and outside the home. president zalinski made it so clear how he needs help, but if he gets the help he can win this war, we need a clear articulation of the strategy to allow ukraine to win. and thus far their responses have been insufficient that we lose who wins. and this will be very,
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very dangerous for the united states. what the by and ministration seems to be asking for is billions of additional dollars with no appropriate oversight. he also made one other point. he needs the aid quickly. those are just some of the comments coming from congressional leaders in washington today, after talks between law makers and ukrainian president. both of them is the landscape. so lensky was backed us capital today, but it was far from the heroes. welcome, he received last winter, and you may recall, he's been trying to break the gridlock in congress over new aid for ukraine to keep up the fight against russia's invasion of the additional money. about $60000000000.00 is bundled off in a sweeping security package requested by us president binding and white so often the split is along partisan lines. republicans are insisting on more immigration and border restrictions in exchange for passing. this bill in time is running out.
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this is the final week before congressman go home for the holiday. the white house says that current aid for ukraine will run out by the end of this year. president biden told the president zelinski that despite the hold up in congress, the us will stand at ukraine's saw. this is one of those moments congress needs to pass the supplemental funding ukraine before the holiday recess before they give the greatest christmas gift they could possibly give it a surprise to call back congress to do the right thing to stand with your crane to stand up for freedom to your brain is less depends on age and we are moving to the right. i think the right direction that i want to discuss with the president. how, how distressed, and it's especially in enhancing our here in the past and the ability to destroy
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process logistics on my colleague janelle, doing well and has more now on the meeting between these 2 presidents, between zelinski and by you know, this has a meeting that one pretty much as expected bite and used it as an opportunity to express solidarity for ukraine, saying that the u. s. stands by ukraine. and i suppose the, the big issue announcement of that he made in his remarks was that he, he declared another 200000000 and draw down funds for ukraine. and this is, of course, so something that so long as he can take home with them. so he doesn't kind of go home empty handed, but of course this is a far from a far cry from the 61000000000 dollar funding that i taught biden wanted to see past for ukraine. that of course, is currently in gridlock among us lawmakers. now as far as the lens keys party use this as an opportunity to call, once again for the aid that ukraine needs,
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he wants better air defenses. he wants to be able to get the ukrainian forces to disrupt person logistics. those are the things that he mentioned, but so you know, both these leaders have an uphill climb and convincing the washington establishment . there is of course, this prevailing view here that the counter event offensive has fallen into a ceiling made. there are differences between keys and washington as to how to turn that tied. but of course, without additional us financing before the end of the year, that tide is going to be very difficult to turn. indeed. that was, you know, do, but now they are reporting from washington. today continues online. you'll find this on x, also known as twitter, and youtube and dw news. you can follow me on those platforms at risk off tv. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see you then if the,
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the, the digital, the news live it from berlin tonight, ukraine's president. a man on a mission, bloating is zalinski, is in the us to urge both democratic and republican leaders to resolve their domestic differences. so that aid to ukraine will not be stopped. also coming up to the i to you in climate talks in overtime and on the verge of failure at issue a dramatic phase out of fossil fuels to mitigate climate change. some countries say yes, others are saying no the.

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