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the spirit of the movement live. so this is the last footage of her as a free woman. after many years in prison, eroni and human rights activist. now guess mohammed e was released on bail in october 2020. immediately she risk being jailed again, meeting with former inmates and making a film about the iranian regimes. crimes the small pieces tend, i thought, as the group of $23.00 activists who have experienced a solitary confinement fluids tend to be counted on together. we're going to the judiciary offices to file a complaint on keeping that solitary confinement to violates below and is only, can we assume, you know, this is a historic moment. talk to this complaint means those for torture on the perpetrators are registered with deal. so i changed to, can you get on that in those costs, which you to definitely supervisor. you must have. this is an important step. you
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know, the fight for justice. several faith. joseph. how title young the does forget about it as the camera down when any that otherwise they'll take it from you the, the issues that we're going to be giving us at one time moment know what to you to no matter what you film in iran, you always need permission from the regime forces. the police are motion and motion . the vision that's included from one is that at some point, even if you have permission to sit with your strictly monitor, all the need been done. you're not allowed to phone your court buildings on the way of doing just seen by the show of this month. and that's why we had to film in secret and seen by the plenty of us fencing back to gather was still makers thought
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he'd sought as all day. and gala re caulk yvonne. now guess mohammed de begin interviewing regime opponents for documentary white torture. the name describes and especially brutal form of torture experienced by her interview subjects. and by mohammed to herself, it was a dangerous undertaking. almost simultaneously, authorities rated the homes of the entire team in t, ron and uh, when they broke down my apartment door lock that had the fixture seen by the image id match. each time we filmed, we had to copy the footage on to separate hard drives and send them to different places on how to otherwise they would have confiscated the material when they searched our homes, the who now i'm amazed at that, how much is a totally fine not to my son pay the financial model, it was because they didn't find anything. because on the day they arrested in august, we'd hidden all the film footage or show the fim home road pin on fact, any a loser, kim?
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i was wondering, i guess it was was and i guess from the regime forces broke into her house is how much wonderful and i guess the all can get us started because i witnessed her bravery that day. i followed her example when they came to my place a few days later in the bathroom on the when a man, when they told me to put on a headscarf. i said, you've come into my house phone too, but that's i don't have to wear headscarf here. and so little money. when am i make the rush here shot into a sock when i'm to, to have warning the name of the other 2 filmmakers managed to get the highly sensitive footage out of the country. they now live in x island, germany. but nark is mohammed. he was sent back to prison a few months later. she's still there today. i gave up everything as a women, a mother, and a human being to fight for freedom, equality and democracy. i don't regret that, but that doesn't apply to my children, ali and kiana. i regret the tie comp be with them
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the years ago. now kids mohammed these children left for parents to join their father in exile, twins, ali and kiana. haven't seen their mother since then. the running machine for bits any contact. their last phone call was a here to say it was it, but i don't hold much hope of seeing her again. but even if i don't, i will always be proud of her just to come into the show they've been calling people said, you know, we grew up like this with this fight against the government. because no matter where we are, even if we were on mars and one will always be concerned, what's happening in the wrong vendor in our country,
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the growing up in iran, their mother. now guys, mohammed de was already campaigning for women's rights. their father tardy. ross money also thought for human rights. the children have many fond memories of their extended family. but they also remember one or the other parents often being in prison. and redeem forces storming their home. there's use reducing even the men breaking down to d. c. my father was fighting when they came in, even though i was so little, i still shut the thinking about it. and so i remember the terrible feeling of seeing my father being taken away or fox. this is what i thought, you know, let go of dad. he doesn't want to go, no,
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but i should stop by and refund. this tardies of money was imprisoned dinner. ron, for 14 years. in 1988, when i told her how many had thousands of political prisoners executed. he survived . when he faced imprisonment again, he fled to paris and he hasn't seen his wife for 11 years and hasn't been able to visit his homeland but the parties intervene in my apologies and powers of my soul is into wrong tad on sometimes when i'm on the streets of congress on right. i imagine that the great boulevard is up to ron's travelling. so in revolution, street and republic. strange, jones, if you don't want to, i told them to move you. now guys, mohammed did not follow him into exile despite the fact that iranian authorities would have been more than happy to let her leave from abroad. her voice would have
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been less powerful nutrition long. yeah, i wanted us to go to get a quote on this to the when i went to abroad, i realized that i wanted to go back for just living abroad is like living in an aquarium. you know, it's in a place where you'll need to move. everything is happening in around the world and it's fine. it's important to have principals who, to as the way i know now, guess she wouldn't leave that rom, which would be because she wouldn't leave. we have to organize our lines accordingly, like i was in the area. the regime wants me to disappear, but i wouldn't be defeated by this long separation. even if at times i'm overcome by and overwhelming sadness that makes me think i went suffice. even after her public accusations against the government interviews exposing the
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resumes, crimes and continual present sentences. now guess mohammed de has kept working, including by filming her documentary white torture in it. she describes her own experiences in solitary confinement alone in a cell for weeks and months at a time. or what happened next to your house to in time and to your hot stops, you'd actually have to order been yes. when the doors slammed shut. should that be a terrified david meetings didn't pardon me? 4 times and so to treat myself just 3 paces wide. oh, it's official lines. 24 hours a day. no book, nothing the
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the spreading sign. and so it's like an endless screen power lising my brain cells . so what a soft, stripped of all your senses and solver tourism, your sense of smell is going on. that's the only sense that might work. a bit is hearing and you said of the size that they take away your sense of the shape. you lose your ability to proceed. things you're in a void. your organs are working. you are a lie. even an endless grieve, but you're not dead. you're still there. right and nothing this is really like
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experiencing that bad journalist, son of right, has search numerous prison sentences in iran, including a total of $288.00 days in solitary confinement. in 2009, as iranians protested against the official results of the presidential election. he was one of the journalists, making sure the news reached the wider world. trying to get a big image of focus kind of ridiculous when i say that their crime was journalism . the nature of journalism is usually significantly by many iranian journalists have been in prison and t, as in the to it depends on the length of detention. he goes, after a few days, it's your township political prisoners especially subjected to that treatment on
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a c o. 2, they put pressure on them by keeping them in solitary for a few months. instead of getting off and the government of the stomach, republican and similar all sorts, having made james claim that political prisoners of foreign, the spies and things like that. so if you go, are you ready to arrange? he makes up a story along those lines, or that one chooses the people who will play a long hope. people are often arrested without being told the charges they'll face, or how long they'll be detained. are then come degrading interrogations, which also fall under the term white torture included. and i enjoyed a year and a half in solitary once the 6 months then full months, 3 months and 6 weeks. and how did you start? you got imagine how hard it is. i see what when you go into the sound, you feel like the walls are closing in on you and your heart is constricted as long as your heart is being ripped down. so that's what white torches feels like and try
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to prevent you from the dish you can use a feat, we use the term white georgia try because it leaves no visible boons on the body. so head on the nissan can logical ones, the roof and model of the british. iranian student phone che, hop on me was imprisoned in 2014 her offense. she had trying to attend a men's volleyball game and to iran, something band forever on in women back. so you back, she staff theater. she is one of their strategies is to humiliate hon. you're not even allowed to use the toilet when you want to. she had to have that that she sat on the end. an important part of this humiliation is that they open and close the door whenever they truly messiah choosing those ended any credit.
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because on how you have no privacy at all and that way you keep task the guy can come to humiliation of a patriarchal society who are you anyway? i got a pass and you're a woman here on the corner to the exact friendship by telling women that they are inferior you said to absorb one width of wine, torture in prisons is to force women to make sexual confessions. many women have told now guess i've experienced this because it's systematic. well, the interrogator is doing it for his own sexual gratification until it's part of the procedure in a male interrogated, will say to a female prisoner describe your sexual relationship with that. my little my buddy mental now guess mohammad the used to a brief time out of present to document the stories. and later in prison, she took the risk of continuing this work. during the woman life freedom protests,
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she succeeded in publicizing accounts of sexual violence, against prisoners to long separation from family and children is also used as a method of torture. the non case mohammed de is haunted by a dream she had in her cell of her young daughter the well, i'm not for you to remember when you put, i'm says i actually felt can is initially so my t o b, you not personally know your lips to and i'm not here on a case to me, i'm on you that i wanted to hug county when i suddenly realized i'm in a cell join us now there's some could choose from. i didn't want to open my eyes to be sure to lose in moments like that was simply human beings. i have one more that many years have passed since then. kiana is now 17.
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she thinks about the milestones, big and small, that she hasn't been able to share with her mother. may i play calls the old? i started to miss my mom more and more. i was a bit fed up with her not being with us as pro 5. if i wanted my mother's actor a man, i wish he had told me how to put on makeup house a dress. she's a woman. we have the same body here and says she could teach me so much about myself when call, but i have to figure it out to him on my own. it says i wish my mom had been that's helped me. of course i missed her, but there are people who are less of than me. i consider myself lucky. there's that my mom is still alive. out of the
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film for this phone equity. i do sports on the side just to keep going. feel free to take my mind off things so that life can go on. and if it interferes, it's an attempt to escape the situation, even if at the end of the day it doesn't work. i'm on you little bit. my mom and dad are my role models feel? i've seen it 1st thing. we've sacrifice the whole part of the delta thing us. they want people, they sacrifice sleep. unimportant moments of, of got home. i mean, i remember mom coming into prison, very ill people. that was hard for me, but it was also an expiration of the of us the, i'm not saying my mom is a fighter and i'm really proud or so i wish that one day she'd sit next to me and i could throw. huh. that would be so cool to go for it was sooner. this is
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just opposed to my so routine volume, but i wanted to draw her. she was incredibly pleased and free at the same time you're close to engine this young woman is fabulous law school and investigate and i think freedom has something to do with it. it's on an envelope financing because it's wonderful to feel if the reserve buster calling me we think freedom is every single or close to that. an investor for a pool is the young women in the wrong could be as free as she is. there's that would be great. we're at, or send me about 10 or 12 cuz of from now kids mohammed dee was able to smuggle a letter to us out of prison through secret channels. she wrote about what moved her most during the interview she conducted with inmates who had been tortured. what shocked me was how severe the consequences of so that she can find mental even
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decades like to which has huge effects on the so the mind and even the body. you should be to see that one of the worst things was that they could open the door whenever they wanted. honey on that report. that after i was free, i always locked the door of my room that you holding before i didn't mind someone coming into my room, donald was okay. but afterwards, i suddenly being shown whenever i, since the movement of the show then and that will tell them that i was on edge, that someone could come in and i would have no control over as the actual yet to instead of the, instead of the, you know and the phone with terry, so they told me we'll go out and come back with your family. welcome on it and joy, you too. when i got into the interrogation room, i heard voices of a woman and a child. i don't know. i know task. it as though i felt the burning pain a whole nother, my heart had stopped beating by the chest and the chap i'm been turned out that i'd
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had a stroke contracts me to them. i can hardly see now ask them to chat and see if i can only read with my right eye. i get yes, but i can't drive for right now i'm going to give you turn on before now. now, so once you've been inside, can't even see my food properly. as all, newton, i'm going to go see baby and i'm calling in son will be teaching a human being and put them in a meat grinder. what comes i will still have some human material and yet, but these 5 the to call you as well. is there a silver tree confinement info at the time when you come out, there's nothing left of you. i'm in the room to even if you have the energy to defend yourself and the like that um, which i probably get more of a month for me. so let's re consignment is really an attempt to destroy a person i'm time motion, so the v one child then then gave you to do them. torture
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is a method that eventually breaks its victims. the regime, coerce is false confessions in order to publicly present detainees as guilty activists. abdulla, i'm on a, has experienced how that works. first hand based on the cost of the present indictment was drawing up on the basis of solid evidence, as well as clear and unequivocal confessions, find the defendants in the, in the next 10 to 4 years. so that when i read the confession big, i felt immense. hatred for myself. well, and i asked myself how i could be so weak that zain them to the boat. and i
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wondered how i could make up for it if we cheated. but bunch feel like the file list person in the world has any control the not change right? the, the suicide. they saw us or how much she would take pictures today i'm thinking about those who made forced confessions and some that she confinement to an executed the stories, a buried wisdom in december 2023. now guess mohammed id is not in solitary confinement. she's in a vain prison in the women's wing for long term political prisoners. taking photos is 4 bits. these are images from a hacked surveillance camera in another wing. back home for the pictures are
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a lot like how it is. that's against the wall bunk beds. it has those who have been inside say that it's very similar to what it looks like on the women's when i them companies on font at allstate, mt m cloud and has been a political activist since her mother, the german of ronnie and not hate hobby, was jailed in around 3 years ago to hobby to campaign for women's rights, and was sentenced to 10 years in prison. not as many more than i am now guys and my mom have the same room and their beds are right beside each other than now. i know that some detainees are permitted occasional phone calls. no guess mohammed the has been able to smuggle out statements critical of the regime. that's kind of an invisible side. that's kind of doom during one visit or spread over several phone calls about on an under. i can be via another prisoner who answers questions, bernard as soon i guess, but it's really not easy. it's very dangerous on which is why not every prisoner
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does it. the thing must, is obviously that the farm and that's not gives mohammed the is severely ill with a heart condition. she's now dependent on medical care in november 2023 when the prison and distress and trying to force her to wear a head scarf for her journey to the hospital. she went on a hungry strength. no food, no medication for life was in danger. days later, not guessed mohammed d was allowed to go to the hospital without a headscarf. and her friends created this photo montage. a small victory against the machine. i mean much out of here besides on an account on his personal using to where head scarf to go to the hospital might seem trivial to many people there bullshit body, margie mccormick, republican envelops us like the shell of a big a customer more broad. and it tells me you have an invoice or user motor you people are knocking against a shell from the inside,
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hoping that cracks will appear in pals and one day, what time they will bring the job. i'm going, i'm going to head a chest. that is not kids mohammed the is 51 years old, or she spent a total of almost 9 years in prison and still has 8 more to go. despite this per will to fight has become even stronger. miniature and brand new. she's decided to fight against the use of solitary confinement alone, not today. now gas is much braver and more determined and walk. she dons the default to or more you or the ending constituents and what's impresses me most searching vanity that she puts others before herself. the a teacher,
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she something and then sometimes that's not good thing, but in situations like these, it's a strength because she never gives up. victory is not easy. so it won't come today or tomorrow, but she is. that's what she said. and that's what i believe is unbreakable against a powerful regime that suppresses its opponents and has silenced so many but even if major protests have stopped, many continue to resist by challenging the rules of the islamic republic. the maverick them for them to to you don't it to those you i don't think there won't be any more protests any ron that might have had in my religious family. my sister responded to what happened to by taking off her head scarf. joe, finishing the movement is like embers among the ashes. i last the, the fire. can we ignite at any time? who am i sure. nevada bush is mohammed. he was awarded the 2023 nobel
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peace prize. it's both an honor and an inspiration for all those who have taken to the streets and risk their lives under the banner option john as id, woman life, freedom. this is not guess mohammed's message from the bean prison. i called on own if you to help free people from all sort terry and systems, especially religious and miss such an estate ones the stand up for peace. the . 2 the
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