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tv   Close up  Deutsche Welle  December 13, 2023 11:30am-12:00pm CET

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a touring motor in large styles and submitted to a name where he left his trees. meeting people cheering victory. mediterranean jenny. this week dw the coach. it's so stuffy. it's hard to breeze. i'm not well, is it day time? night time? time stands still. you've done everything possible to break me to crush my well, my fine to silence. you will succeed the
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my name is and i guess mohammed i'm writing from a v in prison in taylor on the deal. so right, terry and religious government has relentlessly suppressed the women life freedom movement. but even if people are no longer protesting in the streets, the spirit of the movement live. so this is the last budget for as a free woman. after many years in prison,
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eroni and human rights activist, now guess mohammed e was released on bail in october 2020. immediately she risk being jailed again, meeting was former inmates and making a film about the iranian regimes. crimes the small piece was sent out, but as the group of $23.00 activists who have experienced solitary confinement tied to be counted on together, we're going to the judiciary offices to file a complaint on keeping that. so let's see. confinement violates the little button is only, can we assume you don't, this is a historic moment talk to this complaint means so those for torture on the perpetrators are registered with deal. so it seems to can you get on that? even though it's costly to, to definitely supervisor you must have, this is an important step. you know, the fight for justice. several faith just happens. how do i and it does forget about being fixed as you bet about the camera down when any that
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you know, otherwise they'll take it from you the, the issues that we're going to be doing. and that's just one moment. know what to you to no matter what you film in iran, you always need permission from the regime forces. the police are motion and motion . the band vision that's included from one is that at some point, even if you have permission to sit with your strictly monitor, all the need been done. you're not allowed to phone your court buildings on the way of doing, just seen by the leadership of this month. and that's why we had to film in secret . imagine plenty of us fencing back together was still makers felt, heeds out as id and gaylor, a cook of on august mohammed the begin interviewing regime opponents for documentary white torture. the name describes and especially brutal form of torture,
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experienced by here introduce subjects and by mohammed de herself. it was a dangerous undertaking. almost simultaneously, authorities rated the homes of the entire team and to run and go and they broke down my apartment door lock that had the effect of seen by the image. i didn't match. each time we filmed, we had to copy the footage onto a separate hard drives up and send them to different places on how to otherwise they would have confiscated the material when they searched our homes, the who now i'm amazed at that, how much is a totally fine, not to my son pay the financial model. it was because they didn't find anything. because on the day they arrested in august, we'd hidden all the film footage or show the fim home road pin on factory new. a loser kim? i was wondering, i guess i was was, i guess from the regime force has broke into our houses. how much wonderful, and i guess you all can get us started because i witnessed her bravery that day. i
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followed her example when they came to my place a few days later, back to him on that when a man, when they told me to put on a headscarf, i said you've come into my house phone, but yeah, i don't have to wear headscarf here. and so many who am i make the rush here, shot into stock when i'm to, to have already know the name of the other 2 filmmakers managed to get the highly sensitive footage out of the country. they now live in exile in germany, but not as mohammed, he was sent back to prison a few months later. she's still there today. i gave up everything as a women, a mother, and a human being to fight for freedom, equality and democracy. i don't regret that, but that doesn't apply to my children on the and kiana. i regret the take home be with them the
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years ago. now kids mohammed, these children left for parents to join their father in exile, twins, ali and kiana, haven't seen their mother since then. the running machine for bits any contact. their last phone call was a here to the sales department. i don't hold much hope of seeing her again, but even if i don't, i would always be proud of her just to come in to, to circle back. when i go on the box that you know, we grew up like this with this fight against the government, because no matter where we are and we were on mars and we will always be concerned what's happening in there on to been in our country. the growing up in iran, their mother. now guys, mohammed de,
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was already campaigning for women's rights. their father tarry. ross money also thought for human rights. the. the children have many fond memories of their extended family. but they also remember one or the other parents often being in prison and redeem forces storming their home. there's use reducing even to many breaking down to the food. my father was finding when they came in, even though i was so little, i still shut the thinking about it. i wonder if i remember the terrible feeling of seeing my father being taken away or fox. this is what i thought, you know, let go of dad. he doesn't want to go no, but i should stop by his refunded. i mean tardies of money was imprisoned dinner. ron, for 14 years. in 1988 when i told her how many had thousands of political prisoners
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executed. he survived. when he faced imprisonment again, he bled to paris and he hasn't seen his wife for 11 years and hasn't been able to visit his homeland mental parties in digging. in my apologies, in paris, my soul is into around on tad on sometimes when i'm on the streets of congress on right. i imagine that a great deal of the stuff to ron's and traveling. so the revolution street and wrote lovely exchange and jones, if you don't want to. i thought i'm to move you. now guys, mohammed, i did not follow him into exile despite the fact that iranian authorities would have been more than happy to let her leave from abroad. her voice would have been less powerful nutrition more. yeah, i wanted us to go to get a quote on this to the when i went to abroad,
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i realized that i wanted to go back to the living abroad. is like living in an aquarium to your mind. you're not in a place where you'll need to move. everything is happening in around the waters in this fight. it's important to have principles as the way i know. now, guess she won't leave that rom, which will be because she won't leave. we have to organize our alliance accordingly . my friends in the military the regime wants me to disappear, but i wouldn't be defeated by this long separation. even if at times i'm overcome by and overwhelming sadness that makes me think i went suffice. even after her public accusations against the government interviews, exposing the regimes, crimes and continual present sentences. now guess mohammed de has kept working or
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including by filming or documentary white torture in it. she describes her own experiences and solitary confinement alone in a cell for weeks and months at a time or one. yes didn't actually you have to in that i meant to your hot stops, collapse the husky auto body. yes. when the doors slammed shut, should that be a terrified digits. meetings didn't pardon me towards the 4 times and so that treat myself just 3 paces wide to official lines 24 hours a day. no book, nothing. the spreading silence was like an endless scream power lising my brain cells.
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so low as thoughts are stripped of all your senses and suppositories, your sense of smell is going down that the only sense that might work a bit is hearing from you soon. i the size that they take away your sense of the shape. you lose your ability to perceive things. you're in a void. your organs are working or a lie. even an endless grieve the big but you're not dead. you're still there. right? and nothing. this is really like experiencing that bad journalist
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center right, has search numerous prison sentences in iran, including a total of $288.00 days in solitary confinement in 2009. as iranians protested against the official results of the presidential election. he was one of the journalists, making sure the news reached the wider world trying to get a big image of focus kind of ridiculous when i say that their crime was journalism . while the nature of journalism is usually significantly better. many iranian journalists have been in prison, and 2 of them who died to it depends on the length of the detention he goes. after a few days, it's your township political prisoners, especially in subjected to that treatment on a c o. 2, right? they put pressure on them by keeping them in solitary for a few months, instead of getting off and the government of these nomic republic and similar all
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sorts. having made james claim that political prisoners of foreign, the spies and things like that. so if you go you ready to the race, she makes up a story along those lines or that one chooses the people who will play a long coat. people are often arrested without being told the charges they'll face, or how long they'll be detained. are then come degrading interrogations, which also fall under the term white torture included. and i enjoyed a year and a half in solitary once the 6 months then full months, 3 months and 6 weeks. how did you start? you got imagine how, how did is i see when you go into the sound, you feel like the walls are closing in on you and your heart is constricted as long as your heart is being ripped down. so that's what white told you feels like and try to prevent
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you from the dish you can use it. feet we use the term white georgia time because it leaves no visible boons on the body. head on the nissan ca, logical ones, the roof and model of the british, iranian student phone che, hop on me was imprisoned in 2014 her offense. she had trying to attend a men's volleyball game and to iran, something band forever on in women back. so you back, she feels she's one of those strategies as to humiliate you on you're not even allowed to use the toilet when you want to. she had to have that as she sat on the end. an important part of this humiliation is that they open and close the door whenever they've shown messiah choosing you knows. and at any credit. because on how you have no privacy at all. and that is that you keep task
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b. i can come to humiliations of a patriarchal society who are you anyway? i'm going to the pass and you're a woman here. i'm connect to the exact pressure by telling women that they are inferior you said to absorb one width of white torture in prisons is to force women to make sexual confessions. then many women have told now guess i've experienced this. it systematic? well, the interrogator is doing it for his own sexual gratification until it's part of the procedure in a male interrogated, will say to a female prisoner describe your sexual relationship with that my on my body. mental now guys, mohammad. the used to a brief time out of prison, to document the stories. and later in prison, she took the risk of continuing this work. during the woman life freedom protests, she succeeded in publicizing accounts of sexual violence against the prisoners. to
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long separation from family and children is also used as a method of torture. the knock is mohammed de is haunted by a dream she had in herself up for a young daughter. the well, i'm not for you. 200 we need for them is i actually felt can, is initially some my t o b, you not personally know your lips killed. i'm not here on a case to me. i'm on you're done. i wanted to how come to, when i suddenly realized i'm in a cell door at another stone could choose from. i didn't want to open my eyes to be sure to do that in moments like that was simply human beings. i had one of them many years have passed since then. kiana is now 17. she thinks about the milestones, big and small, that she hasn't been able to share with her mother. may i pray calls the old.
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i started to miss my mom more and more or i was a bit fed up with her not being with us. here is 45. if i wanted my mother's actor a man, i wish he had told me how to put on makeup house a dress. she's a woman, we have the same body here and says she could teach me so much about myself when call, but i have to figure it out to him on my own. it says, i wish my mom had been this helped me. of course i missed her, but there are people who are worse off than me. i consider myself lucky. there's that my mama still lives kind of the film for this phone equity. i do sports on the side just to keep going. feel good. take my mind off of things so that life can go on in
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a pin benefits. it's an attempt to escape the situation even if at the end of the day it doesn't work. i'm on you little bit. my mom and dad are my role models feel i've seen it 1st thing. they sacrifice the whole part of the delta thing. so you want people that they sacrifice sleep. important moments of all set up on that. i remember mom coming into prison, very ill. people that was hard for me, but it was also an explanation of the climax and my mom is a fighter and i'm really proud of her this. i wish that one day she'd sit next to me and i could throw ha, that would be so cool to go for it was sooner. this is just a person i so looking by, but i wanted to draw her. she was incredibly pleased and free at the same time.
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you're close vision. this young woman is fabulous. last for that investment. and i think freedom has something to do with us on the whole financing because it's wonderful to feel freeze reserve cluster. calling the we think freedom is every single or close to that enough. perfect tool is the young women in the wrong could be as free as she is. who was that would be great. who were at or send they've changed focuses from now kids mohammed de was able to smuggle a letter to us out of prison through secret channels. she wrote about what moved her most during the interview she conducted with inmates who had been tortured. what shocked to me was how severe the consequences of so that she can find mental even decades like to it has huge effects on the so the mind and even the body
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you should be to see the doctor. one of the worst things was that they could open the door whenever they wanted honey on that report. that after i was free, i always locked the door of my room and you holding before i didn't mind someone coming into my room, donald was okay, but afterwards i suddenly being shown, whenever i sense to move, make sure that i don't tell them that i was on edge that someone could come in and i would have no control over as the actual yet to instead of the instead of the, you know, and the phone with terry. so they told me, we'll go out and come back with your family. walking monitor will enjoy you too. when i got into the interrogation room, i heard voices of a woman and a child. i don't know why don't ask you to so i felt the burning pain a whole nother. my heart had stopped beating by then why them chasing the chap? i'm been turned out that i'd had a stroke contracts me to them. i can hardly see now ask them to try such as i can
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only read with my right eye. i get usually i can't drive for right now to give you to them before now. now, so once you've been inside, can't even see my food properly. as all, newton, i'm the new hosting baby, and i'm calling in son will be teaching human being and put them in a meat grinder. what comes i will still have some human material and yet, but these 5 the to call you as well. so. so what sri consignment info at the time when you come out, there's nothing left of you to them in the to even if you have the energy to defend yourself with it. and you know at that, um, which i probably get more of a mountain for minute. so let's re consignment is really an attempt to destroy a person. i'm time motion, so the v one child then then gave you, do them. torture is a method that eventually breaks its victims the regime,
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coerce is false confessions in order to publicly present detainees as guilty activist abdulla, i'm on a has experienced how that works. first hand based on the cost to all of the present indictment was drawing up on the basis of solid evidence, as well as clear and unequivocal confessions. find the defendants in the, in the next 10 minutes. so that when i read the confession big, i felt in men's hatred for myself. well, i asked myself how i could be so weak that zain them to many the boats. and i wondered how i could make up for it. cheap, but bunch feel like the foul list person in the world has any control to not to
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drive the suicide. they saw how much she went to pictures today i'm thinking about those who made forced confessions and summit, she confinement and were executed the stories, a buried wisdom in december 2023. now gizmo hummadi is not in solitary confinement. she's in a vain prison in the women's wing for long term political prisoners. taking photos is 4 bits. these are images from a hacked surveillance camera in another wing back home. sure, the pictures are a lot like how it is. that's against the wall bunk beds. it has those who have been inside say that it's very similar to what it looks like in the womans when i them,
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companies often contact allstate, mount m cloud and has been a political activist since her mother, the german of ronnie and not hate hobby, was jailed in around 3 years ago, to hobby to campaign for women's rights, and was sentenced to 10 years in prison, august mine, and what happened now guys and my mom had the same room, and their beds are right beside each other, and i know that some detainees are permitted occasional phone calls, no kids mohammed the has been able to smuggle out statements critical of the regime . that's kind of an invisible side that's causing them during one visit or spread over several phone calls from you by in an under they can be via another prisoner who answers questions bernardez. if you're not, i guess, but it's really not easy. it's and it's very dangerous sauce on which is why not every prisoner does it. the thing must, is obviously that the 5 minutes now gives mohammed is severely ill with a heart condition. she's now dependent on medical care. in november 2023,
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when the prison administration tried to force her to wear a head scarf for her journey to the hospital, she went on a hunger strike. no food, no medication for life was in danger. days later, nor guess mohammed he was allowed to go to the hospital without a head scar. enter friends created this photo montage. a small victory against the regime. high mean, much out of here, besides the care of damage 1st using to where head scarf to go to the hospital, might seem trivial to many people there bullshit. body margie mccormick, republican envelops us like the shell of a big a kaufman multiples load, and it tells me you haven was there to get your motor. you people are knocking against a shell from the inside, hoping that cracks will appear in one day that i will bring the job. i'm going, i'm the how does your tests that is not kids mohammed. the is 51 years old.
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she spent a total of almost 9 years in prison and still has 8 more to go. despite this, her will to fight has become even stronger miniature, but she's decided to fight against the use of solitary confinement. no, not today, no gas is much braver and more determined and watch the dogs, the default to or more you or the ending condition. so that what's impresses me most is search humanity that she puts others before herself. a good, a teacher, she something and then sometimes that's not good thing, but in situations like these, it's a strength because she never gives up. victory is not easy. so it won't come today
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or tomorrow, but that is something that's what she said. and that's what i believe is unbreakable against a powerful regime that suppresses its opponents and has silenced so many but even if major protests have stopped, many continue to resist by challenging the rules of the islamic republic. the mom freaked them for them to to you don't it is you. i don't think there won't be any more protests any ron that might have had in my religious family. my sister responded to what happened to by taking off her head scarf. joe said his name to the movement is like embers among the ashes. i last the fire can reignite at any time through my shore divided boucher dark as mohammed id was awarded the 2023 nobel peace prize. it's both an honor and an inspiration for all those who have
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taken to the streets and risk their lives under the banner option john as id, woman life, freedom. this is not guess mohammed's message from the bean prison. i quote on own if you to help free people from o. sorry terry, in systems, especially religious and massaging estate, ones the stand up for peace. the . 2 the the rug,
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