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simple as the impossible to see it, the stones tell the story of a powerful resolution. what exactly happened as of 10000 years ago, the secrets shone age, stats, december 22nd. on the w and the state of the news advocates coming up on the program. the forgotten war, incidentally, the, with thousands of people killed and millions displaced. 8 organizations, one of the catastrophe, as the situation is western in the u. n. says basic supplies to support people in need are running out the reports or has gained exclusive access to the south of the country into their rebels controlled and move on mountains. one of them was dangerous and isolated the regions of sit on where people now for me to seek
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shelter he played a lot to get them, but now god has to be considered lovely from me. i believe we have got to just pick of class in kenya, the government's so called forest protection plan is driving indigenous people out of the homes. the accused forest ranges of destroying the houses, leaving them with nowhere to go home. i came the very t as in nowhere else to me. i know that my grandmother, my great grandmother of areas. where else will i go? a grew up being told, this is my 100 to where else they want me to go to europe in the i d, mike i junior and you welcome to the pro on 8 organizations i want to know if he
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hung are catastrophe in sit down as a result of the conflict there. which date is probably about the forgotten war. much of the wealth attention has been elsewhere on russia's fighting in ukraine and the reasons war between eas route and how much. owing to don altoff nearly 25000000 people in need of age, the united nations has only been able to reach a small fraction and funding even for that is running low. so don's war you're up to 8 months ago after a fee of tension between the military chief general abdel spots out blue han and the general mohammed hum done delgado. who is commander of the problem. you need to wrap it, support forces the fights and has killed more than 12000 people so far and displeased by 6000000 people pass. sedans, already struggling economy is on the verge of collapse. you ends, you wanted to in coordinate task force it on says the situation on the ground is getting worse by the day the situation and so down 8 months after the conflict
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started is catastrophic. despite the valiant efforts of the humanitarian community, the partners, the agencies on the ground, we are still facing significant challenges. we have about 7000000 people displaced in sudan, which is the highest displacement situation globally. so we are stretched in terms of our ability to respond to what is quite a high number of of needs across the board. we're facing a population, but it's about 24700000 people in need of humanitarian assistance to date. we've been able to reach about 4000000, and our goal is to hopefully reach around 18000000. our overall budget. our needs is about 2600000000 to date. we've received only $38.00 per sentence, sat for long this let's bring in the abdomen in the fall,
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my general list on so then these come and page us. he's now based in egypt, cairo. hello dahlia. welcome to the program. now you live in egypt, cairo after fleeing the recent fights and in your home country. so done, you've been in touch with people on the ground. what are the telling you about the concepts going on? i'm. it's horrible. those who are in cartoon are still facing bombardment and fighting between the iris, if in the army and those who are in charge, most, many of them have been forced to flee for their own safety and their in caps. refugee camps on the border with chad, and the situation is horrible. it's very dire, and humanitarian aid is unable to get through. and at the same time, not enough humanitarian aid is being, is, is coming in to sit down in the surface to become a forgotten conflict. but for me,
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the 42000000. so the news is solved for glossing conflict. the numbers that are coming out every week from agencies like late nights of nations and the red cross make for pricing, read higher. we something like have for maybe half the population, maybe some 25000000. so the needs are in need of humanitarian aid. nearly 70 percent of the countries, hospitals and health clinics are out of service including schools and universities . so there's no positive information coming. got to sit down at this moment. yeah, it definitely doesn't sound like that to uh, how people surviving those that you are in touch with to the help of local grass, read organizations and responders, you know, their local initiatives, grassroots initiatives, mainly run by you know,
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use for just finding whatever means they can't be able to get supplies, medical aid, and even money to those who count. cartoon is pretty much a battle ground, a daily battle ground between the army and the militia, and therefore, is pretty much now under the control of the militia. and so it's a nightmare. it's very hard for them to do it, but they're somehow still doing, you know, doing what they can. and in the way, because the state of colorado has collapsed there is those that stay the right it's adult. so it's down to the initiatives, local initiatives, homegrown grass with initiatives that are somehow keeping the fabric of so that the society you know, lives and or if you think about the latest attempt to mediate a ceasefire again, it seems to have failed. why it, as it keeps feeling you think because neither side is
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being honest about wanting to cease fire. i think end of the day, it's a power struggle between 2 military units. and each one is fighting to gain control to gain power to gain the power. and there is no sense from them that it's a lose lose situation in their opinion. if either, if they agree to a cease far because the conditions put in place by others by both sides on each other. and i don't see how anyone can, can make sure that those agreements are fulfilled. because even agree on allowing a humanitarian passage convoys to get through, how are they going to agree on ending the fighting? and at the same time, international party, international actors who can have an influence on not pulling their weight so to speak. i mean, nothing more can be done from the international arena to pressure both sides to to,
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you know, bring, go and to the conflict, but not enough pressure is being applied. and the regional, the actors. yeah. sorry to catch you that what kind of pressure is need we talk about giving them pressure. what is the price of that? we really get them to say, hey, let's, let's call force these file. and this conflict stopped the supply of arms. economic sanctions. and use, you know, and use your biological relationship as a way to pressure. but these 3 at these 3 points, those who can on even following through each side has it's been a fact. so each side has a supporter and each side is continually getting the arms the means to continue this war. and unless you cut that stream of supports arms and money, this will continue. and the time being taken defects not warn you who in your opinion is funding this because you, you seem to be saying those who can stop it,
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not doing it because you are benefiting somehow from me to add these people, you're talking about the regional neighbors and regional powers in the middle east and in africa they have been, they have played a big part in the continue in this, in the, in the outbreak of this war. and they continue to play a big part in the continuation of this war. and at the same time, you have the european, the western nations, but the european union, the 9th of states, detroit and the, when not really having much of a say, you know, there's not, there's very little interest you know, or to bring up to bring about pressure on the parties that are helping to, you know, extend this war and it's in the days, the game of politics at the same time, you have other conflicts going on around the world, which i've taken attention. they've, you know, they've been grapple the attention. so it's very hard to you know,
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to stand up and say, what about us look at us. so this is why we as to the needs we come in and this is where we need to do what we can. and in our case, and my case is to work on the humanitarian side to help those or who can't, who, who's, who need help and aren't getting any help me. you've talked about returning home to sit down soon, barry and all that we've. we've said right now the challenge is in a cease file and in the conflict, how realistic is it for you to return home to a peaceful seat on every day i wake up with a different idea. one day i wake up and i think it's hopeless, but i will never see my home country again. and other days i wake up and i'm like, no, it's of the own. this is on us as to the needs to make sure that we do have a home to go back to and it's just call, it's a continuous, you know, self conflict that i face. and, but i truly believe that if security was, you know, safety wise, i can go back. i think me, in a more, i'm
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a thousands of others. we will do that because we're like a tree. we've been uprooted. and you know, we, we, this is our home, it's forgiveness so much, and it's sticking so much from us, but it's out home. and no matter where you go, no matter how welcome you made to feel or unwelcome. it's never the same feeling as being in your own place, and i think for me that's the driving factor that i am working on. and i hope that maybe this time, next day if i, if i speak to you again, i'll be like, i'll be speaking from car to or i'll be speaking from other some other sedans has done. so i really, i really, i really hope so too. and we will keep reporting on this until the well pays enough attention. dahlia abdel millennium. thank you very much for your time. thank you for having me. now, the escalating wall has made it dangerous for journalists to report from many
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positive sit on. but all correspondence, mario and buddha succeeded in gaining exclusive access to the south of the country into the remote and revel controlled new by mountains where more and more people flee for safety. as these remote parts of sedan has become a place of refuge for people fleeing the war and some of them can now tell the stories. my name is honda, how mulder i fled from one heart to of to last my 2 children and one of my legs shipped to tell the stories we had to enter so done illegally by ourselves through done to reach the remote new the mountains region, check phones a guarded by the s p. m and rebel group. they've been fighting the sudanese government for almost 40 years, demanding self determination and secularism. now the war has re ignited this old
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conflict. as we travelling with german n g o cap anymore, we are allowed to pass after an 8 hour drive we reach a buick camp, thousands of in town and he displays people have sold refuge here including honda. how much say that i've done to the bomb. he tell a house, i didn't lose my life straight away. and i didn't to me to, to sense that it for 7 to someone who can know when i bought it just felt number couple figures. she was taken to hospital when she woke up from surgery to amputate her leg. the doctors told her that she had also lost her 2 sons. our teeth and up at 2 were only 2 and 4 years old. i live in by children, the adorable. we played a lot together, but god has taken them away from me. i will leave it to go to charge the government . i don't blame god for it. i was thinking about them. i was thinking that i'm going to going to ship it took a while, a roughly a quote,
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as a 1000000 people reach the remote into the mountains region. this local church played a crucial role in providing century many people in the congregation here today say, and they have this man to thing for their lives. boston most equity has to finish that in a few weeks after the fighting broke out. he organized $23.00 buses, which transported $1500.00 residents of park to him, to safety and the new, the mountains. our people just got that. a lot of people died. people, there were not to, they were not having foot the bus. katie mall, done the number not to use. i'll post ok because people that i knew from there and they were not able to instead of that. so we just from the bus. and if there's a lot of how gone the way people in this region have to get by without help, 8 organizations kind access it because of the fighting. almost 10000 people have
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found refuge in this camp. now at least they have a sense of safety. but not much else. they like clean water, proper food and shelter, and the only medical facility has not enough medicine. despite what she's gone through honda, how moto says she won't give out. she has 2 other children to take care of. i do now. so i was told that i may make them any good so that i may make them be happy, they should not see them right. and we don't have a practice to do. but if i don't do one, so that a minute just them to say that i'm with the was still ongoing. many of the stories of those less than affected or only starting to trickle out what's clear is that the effects will last well into the next generation.
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that's now turn our attention to kenya, what he planned to say for us and fight climate change is the link to the removal of indigenous people from their homes. they will get community have lived in the mile forest for generations spot. the now find themselves on the wrong side of forest restoration efforts. and c ranges from kenya for a service destroying the houses, leaving them displeased on the destitute. they reached out to the government, full comments, but have not gotten a response yet. use fedex marine got reports from sussing windy village in the mile forest complex. someone was zillow, save ranges from the cabinet, for the se, destroyed his house, living with practically nothing. through my z go to a home, i came, the buried. he has a new i be moving and i grew up. i didn't know where else of the know that my grandmother, my great grandmother up, they are ready to die and wherever else will i go? i grew up being told, this is my 100 albany. where else did they want me to go it with you when you're
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wiping a love story. say she was in her house with her 5 children when that rings us came connected. now on the watch i to and they left nothing outstanding people met. neither would they leave anything behind and i even stolen hose acts of so i have a boiling on mays eat. somebody took a quick on thought that was saying they would be using them at the window. i to him was your name. i and we passed the forest, obviously a boat and a guess was it's a range of destroyed these houses, but they failed to replace. this is what the for us obviously is supposed to protect the vast mode for this complex because of government save people living there have been damaging the for us. the president told them to leave when visiting the retail. why do they by the local does, did in the 1st trip planned to vacate as soon as possible. i will put up a fence and that is not a request that i need of the reason human rights last suggest the connection speed
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international coupling must get him into setup during play. mentions how me it's these have made for us to buy leveled. we know that the old yet are being evicted, like in the name of a conservation. we also know that that's a lot of interest from those who are engaging in, in helping trading in, in kenya and in kenya's forest and all the assets. so i think if you, if you place in the wider context, i think it's, it's bad to say that there were concerns about the okay sounds maybe being taken away for, for coven credit. they all get people development program is trying to best way to the government. just stop everything in between us people. we hope that the government we are, let's see that it's a matter of importance to stop eviction of indigenous communities in kenya. second thing we ex, picked the government to invite members of the community to uh,
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negotiation table. so that consolidation happened and the ad road map on recipient communities this communities in for us, by way of giving them line by way of composition for damages, etc. happens sofa if what's just top that makes sense. talk about compensation have faded besides that remains of a house that was exemplary, demolished by that can government belonging to one of their dear community members . now on to okay. so it's in 2017 and to extend to the african caught on human and people's rights as to the kind of government to do to produce funds for the damages costs to they'll get community by the instead of compensation. destruction has continued to take place and the community members are constantly living in fear. so these 2 men just told us, arrange us to attempt them. we progress if they didn't leave their homes, they've taken what they couldn't carry into and then sat in future. i am now joined
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by let's see, and on m y a east africa direct to human rights sports. hello sir. now us, we had in the reports, they all get people say being violently evicted. and in some cases, even abused your organization has been investigating these claims. what have you found out that they should be a good cause and actually because uh, the government seems to be starting clock on us, on dallas, acknowledging an ongoing process. and either or the setup in medic yourself, we just got going on with the evictions. knowing that just a told following, no, no, no, no guidelines. the sidney that was done and using the police sense until i left up to the people without giving them a good time to look at the notes, showing them where to go. i'm not providing any of the supplements support. i mean,
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talking about college readings, the east african court of justice recently also ordered a canyon governments to stop the evictions and pay the it'll get people compensation. but as a governments of lights to photo that order, but the government housing didn't just funded in any meaningful way and housing stops if you're sense of a short insight planning to fix difficulties. and that is best got in line with what you're seeing with the kind of the decision. but yeah, i think um, economic benefits of anything by the rights of people of an individual. and i think what you're seeing when you get to have understood that the government actually is planning is, is going to see that and using that part of the font for couple and also team problem. uh, so the, everything to be, that's not decided because of the finest up for
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a couple of click uh which is really it is because the public se independent between the community. so i'll talk to, so basically you try to say there's a bit more of a shady reason that the government is trying to drive that will get people out. is that right? definitely not that the government itself. so it's, that's um that doing that because of the 1st up we have good information to suggest that i could get evicted though. guess because bill and enter into that into the last little company to do come on upset the for the part of the fall as being part of the 1st of all just a quick one on this. um you talking about the shady reason the government may have to drive into or get people away assuming that was the actual reason. would that make sense to drive that will get people to achieve that?
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i know it's, it's not because it defies useful problem of that and then it's the gift before us that it has been so that we should make the decision on or if the government was trying to process that process of being consultation and they'll get people to get people leaves pools on set, all the information i need to be given to them so that they understand why they need to get out of the why the place is being resolved. so that they make that decision knowing what devices they useful. and then the government needs to provide a bit of benefits that informed me that we have to get up to the, the, the, the, the company. so how the gigs have weight benefits. that's how something that has to be brought up. so at the end of the day, who wins in such a case, the government says this is what they want to do with the forest. they want to protect the forest or get people who say, hey, this is why we've been or allies. we don't want to leave, what happens now?
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what options do they will get? people have left you have to remember that any government projects the products of to be done in the amount of that suspects of people that i told the people i'm doing give being the indigenous people that disc standups that the government wants to offer. based on the international stuff that's, that's kind of okay, now i find to good now by ignoring some of those i, knowing the last, the last the data to the liable to see the progression smoke not the sunday. okay. the bookkeeping international. okay. let's see. i know m y a east africa direct to human rights watch. thank you. that's all we have on a program from all of our stories, go to dw dot com slash after draft, or visit us on facebook on x. and let's wrap up the show in body where that the
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