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to those to know understand can have a think like the right to present data used on instagram. follow the vs data. i didn't use africa coming up on the program. the forgotten war. incidentally, the, with thousands of people killed and millions displaced. 8 organizations, one will be catastrophe, as the situation is worse than in the u. n. says basic supplies to support people in need are running out the reports or has gained exclusive access to the south of the country into their rebels controlled and move a mountains. one of the most dangerous and isolated regions of sit on where people
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now feed to seek shelter. he played a lot to get them, but now god has taken from me. i believe we took got to death to the government class in kenya. the government's so called forest protection plan is driving indigenous people out of the homes. the accused forest ranges of destroying the houses, leaving them with nowhere to go home. i came the very t as in nowhere else to know that my grandmother, my great grandmother of the area. where else will i go? a grew up being told, this is mike, where real so they want me to go look you up in the i and the mike had junior and you welcome to the program aid organizations. i want
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to know if he hung task trophy in sit down as a result of the conflicts there which day describe as a forgotten war. much of the wealth attention has been elsewhere on russia's fighting and you cream and the reasons why between each route and how much. owing to don altoff nearly 25000000 people in need of a to the united nations has only been able to reach a small fraction and funding even for that is running low. so don's war you're up to 8 months ago after a fee of tension between the military chief general abdel spots out blue han and the general mohammed hum done delgado who is come on that of the probably too rapid support forces the fights and has killed more than 12000 people sofa and displaced by 6000000 people, pass sedans already struggling. the economy is on the verge of collapse. you and so you want to in coordinate task force it on says the situation on the ground is getting worse by the day. the situation and so down 8 months after the conflict
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started is catastrophic. despite the valiant efforts of the humanitarian community, the partners, the agencies on the ground, we are still facing significant challenges. we have about 7000000 people displaced in sudan, which is the highest displacement situation globally. so we are stretched in terms of our ability to respond to what is quite a high number of of needs across the board. we're facing a population, but it's about 24700000 people in need of humanitarian assistance to date. we've been able to reach about 4000000 and our goal is to hopefully reach around 18000000. our overall budget on needs is about 2600000000 to date. we've received only $38.00 points to 6 percent of that.
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so on this, let's bring in diarrhea, abdomen in the fall, my general list on so then these come in tates as she's now based in egypt, cairo. hello dahlia. welcome to the program. now you live in egypt, cairo, after leaving the recent fights and in your home country. so done, you've been in touch with people on the ground. what are the telling you about the concepts going on? i'm sorry about those who are in cartoon, are still facing bombardment and fighting between the iris and the army. and those who are in charge, most, many of them have been forced to flee for their own safety and their in caps. refugee camps on the border with chad, and the situation is horrible. it's very dire, and humanitarian aid is unable to get through. and at the same time, not enough humanitarian aid is being, is, is coming in to sit down in the surface to become a forgotten conflict. but for me,
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the 42000000. so the news is solved for glossing conflict. the numbers that are coming up every week from agencies likely inactive nations and the red cross make for a frightening read higher. we uh, something like how familiar half the population, maybe some 25000000 to the knees are in need of humanitarian aid. nearly 70 percent of the countries, hospitals and health clinics are out of service including schools and universities . so there's no positive information come and go sit down at this moment. yeah, that definitely doesn't sound like that to uh, how people surviving those that you are in touch with to the help of local grass, read organizations and responders, you know, their local initiatives, grassroots initiatives, mainly run by you know,
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use for just finding whatever means they can't be able to get supplies, medical aid, and even money to those who can't. cartoon him is pretty much a battle ground, a daily battle ground between the army and the militia, and therefore, is pretty much now under the control of the militia. and so it's a nightmare, it's very hard for them to do it, but they're somehow still doing, you know, doing what they can and in the way, because the state, colorado has collapse, there is those that stay the right it's adult. so it's down to the initiatives local initiatives, homegrown grass was initiatives that are somehow keeping the fabric of so that the society, you know, lives me and or if you think about the latest about time to mediate a ceasefire again, it seems to have failed. why it, as it keeps feeling you think because neither side is
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being honest about wanting to cease fire. i think end of the day, it's a power struggle between 2 military units. and each one is fighting to gain control to gain power to gain the power. and there is no sense from them that it's a lose lose situation in their opinion. if either, if they agree to assist far because the conditions put in place by others by both sides on each other. and i don't see how anyone can, can make sure that those agreements are fulfilled. because even agree on allowing a humanitarian passage convoys to get through, how are they going to agree on ending the fighting? and at the same time, international party, international actors who can have an influence on not pulling their weight so to speak. mean, nothing more can be done from the international arena to pressure both sides to to,
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you know, bring the end to the conflict, but not enough pressure is being applied. and the regional of the actors. yeah, sorry it's got you the what kind of pressure is needed. we talk about giving them price. so what is the price of that? we really get them to say, hey, let's, let's call voice these file and this conflict stop the supply of arms. economic sanctions. and use, you know, and use your biological relationship as a way to pressure. but these 3 at these 3 points, those who can on even following through each side has it's been the fact. so each side has a supporter and each side is continually getting the arms the means to continue this war. and unless you cut that stream of supports arms and money, this will continue. and the time being taken, just exit. who are you? who in your opinion is funding this?
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because you, you seem to be saying those will kind of stop it, not doing it because you are benefiting somehow from me to add these people, you're talking about the regional neighbors and the regional powers in the middle east. and in africa they have been, they have played a big part in the continue in this, in the, in the outbreak of this war. and they continue to pay a big part in the continuation of this war. and at the same time, you have the european, the western nations like the european union, the 9th of states, detroit and the, when not really having much of a say, you know, there's not, there's very little interest in know, or to bring up to bring about pressure on the parties that are helping to, you know, extend this war and it's in the data game of politics. at the same time, you have other conflicts going on around the world, which i've taken attention to, or, you know, they've been grappled attention. so it's very hard to you know,
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to stand up and say, what about us look at us. so this is why we as to the needs we come in and this is where we need to do what we can. and in our case, and my case is to work on the humanitarian side to help those or who can't, who, who's, who need help and aren't getting any help me. you've talked about returning home to sit down soon, barry and all of that we've, we've said right now the challenge is in a cease file and in the conflict, how realistic is it for you to return home to a piece supposed to be done every day i wake up with a different idea. one day i wake up and i think it's hopeless, but i will never see my home country again. and other days i wake up and i'm like, no, it's of the own. this is on us as to the needs to make sure that we do have a home to go back to and it's just call, it's a continuous, you know, self conflict that i face. and, but i truly believe that if security was, you know, safety wise, i can go back,
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i think me and then more the thousands of others. we will do that because a, we'd like a tree, we'd been uprooted. and you know, we, we, this is our home, it's forgiving us so much of a stick and so much from us. but it's our home. and no matter where you go, no matter how welcome you made to feel or unwelcome, it's never the same feeling as being in your own place. and i think for me that's the driving factor that i am working on. and i hope that maybe this time, next day if i, if i speak to you again, i'll be like, i'll be speaking from car to or i'll be speaking from other some other sedans has done. so i really, i really, i really hope so too. and we will keep reporting on this until the world pays enough attention. dahlia abdel millennium. thank you very much for your time. thank you for having me. now the escalades in the wall has made it dangerous for
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journalists to report from many pods of sit on. but our correspondents, mario luda, succeeded in gaining exclusive access to the south of the country into the remote and revel controlled new by mountains where more and more people flee for safety. as these remote pods of sedan has become a place of refuge for people fleeing the war and some of them can now tell the stories. my name is honda, how mulder i fled from one heart to of to last my 2 children and one of my legs shipped to tell the stories we had to enter so done illegally by ourselves. so done to reach the remote new the mountains region checked phones a guarded by the s p. m and rebel group. they've been fighting the sudanese government for almost 40 years, demanding self determination and secularism. now the war has re ignited this old
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conflict. as we travelling with german n g o cap anymore, we are allowed to pass after an 8 hour drive, we reach a good weekend, thousands of internally displaced. people have sold refuge here, including honda. how much fit i've done at the bomb. he tell a house, i didn't lose my legs straight away and it didn't take me to to sense that it was 7, someone who could know when i bought it just felt number a couple of figures. she was taken to hospital when she woke up from surgery to amputate her leg. the doctors told her that she had also lost her 2 sons. our teeth and up at 2 were only 2 and 4 years old. i live in by children, the adorable. we played a lot together, but god has taken them away from me. i will leave it to go to charge the government . i don't blame god for it. i was thinking about them. i was thinking that i'm going to going to ship it took a while, a roughly
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a quarter of a 1000000 people reach the remote into the mountains region. this local church played a crucial role in providing century many people in the congregation here today say, and they have this man to thing for their lives. boston most equity has to finish society in a few weeks after the fighting broke out. he organized 23 buses, which transported 1500 residents of park to him, to safety and the new by mountains. how about people? it's got that. well, if people died, people, there were not to, they were not having foot the bus. katie mall, done the number not to use. i'll post ok because people that i knew from there and they were not able to instead of that. so we just from the bus. and if there's a lot of how gone the way people in this region have to get by without help, 8 organizations can't access it because of the fighting. almost 10000 people have
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found refuge in this camp. now at least they have a sense of safety. but not much else. they like clean water, proper food and shelter. and the only medical facility has not enough medicine. despite what she's gone through honda, how moto says she won't give up. she has 2 other children to take care of. i do now . so i was told that i may make them any good so that a man made them be happy. they should not see them right. and we don't have a complete, right, i'm practice to do. but if it is, i don't do one. so that a minute just them to say that i'm with the was still ongoing. many of the stories of those with been affected or only starting to trickle out what's clear is that the effects will last well into the next generation.
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that's now turn our attention to kenya for a plan to say forest and fight climate change is the link to the removal of indigenous people from their homes. they will get community have lived in the mile forest for generations spot. the now find themselves on the wrong side of forest restoration efforts, and c ranges from kenya for a service destroying the houses, leaving them displeased on the destitute. we reached out to the government, full comments, but have not gotten a response yet. use fedex marine got reports from sussing, whiny village in the mile forest complex. someone was zillow, save a ranges from the california se destroyed his house, leaving him with practically nothing. to leave me was the guy. well, what do i owe my king? the buried he has done you, i be moving and i grew up. i didn't know where else to, but i know that my grandmother, my great grandmother up, they are ready to die. and where else will i go? i grew up being told,
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this is my 100 albany. where else did they want me to go with you when you're wiping a long story. say she was in her house without 5 children. when the princess kim connected. now on the watch, i too. and they left nothing outstanding compliment, neither would they leave anything behind. and i the even stone hose acts of so i have a boiling on mays eat my end. it took a cook and thought that was saying they would be using them at the window. i wish at night in mind we passed the forest visa boat and the guess was it's a range of destroyed these houses, but they failed to reply. this is what the forest obviously supposed to protect the vast mo for this complex. but couldn't government save people living there have been damaging the for us. the president told them to leave when visiting the retail . why do they by the local does, did in the 1st trip plan to vacate as soon as possible. i will put up a fence and that is not to request stuff that i need a does result in human rights. last suggest connect,
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substitute international couple and marketing and setup during play mentioned saw meats, these have made for us to by level. we know that the old yet are being evicted, like in the name of a conservation. uh, we also know that that's a lot of interest from those who are engaging in, in helping trading in, in kenya and in 10 years, forest and all the assets. so i think if you, if you pace in the wider context, i think it's, it's bad to say that there were concerns about some of the okay, sounds maybe being taken away for full coven credit. they all get people development program is trying to persuade the government just up everything indigenous people. we hope that the government to be, let's see, that it's a matter of importance to stop eviction of indigenous communities in kenya. second thing we ex, picked today government to invite members of the community to uh,
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negotiation table. so that consolidation happen. and the road map on recipient communities this communities in for us, by way over giving them line by way of composition for damages, etc. happens sofa. if what's just top that makes sense, talk about compensation have faded besides the remains of a house that was exemplary, demolished by the can government belonging to one of the community members. now on to okay. so it's in 2017 and to add students to different quotes on human and people. it's right to ask for the kind of government to do to produce funds for the damages cost to they'll get community. but instead of compensation destruction has continued to take place in the community, members are constantly living in fia. so the cement told us, arrange us to do it, and then we progress. if they didn't leave the homes, they've taken what they can carry into. i love that in future. i am now joined by
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let's see, and m y a east africa direct to human rights watch tellos that now us we had in the reports, they all get people say being violently evicted. and in some cases, even abused, the organization has been investigating these claims. what have you found out that they shall get cause actually because uh the government seemed the body and clock on us on dallas its not even an ongoing process. um either or does that mean that it yourself we just got going on with evictions? no, no, just a told following. no, no, no, no, very nice. the certainly that was done and using it police sense until i left up to the people without giving them a good time to look at not showing them where to go. i'm not providing any of the supplements support and i mean talking about called readings,
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the east african costs of justice. we send to you also audited canyon governments to stop the evictions and pay the it'll get people compensation but is a government's of lights to photo that order. but the government housing dependents funded in any meaningful way and housing stops if you're some sort of short inside planning to fix difficulties and that is best guiding 9 what you're seeing with the kind of the decision. but yeah, i think um, economic benefits of anything besides the rights of people of an individual. and i think what you're seeing when you get to have understood that the government actually is planning is, is going to see that and using that part of the font for a couple and also team problem. uh, so the, everything to be,
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it's not decided because of the finest up for a couple of quick we just really it is because the public se, independent between the community. so i'll talk to you. so basically you're trying to say there's a bit more of a shady reason that the government is trying to drive that will get people out. is that right? definitely not that the government itself. so it's that's um that doing that to close out the follow up. we have good information to suggest that i could get evicted, they'll get to because the bill and enter into that into the last little company to do come on upset the for the part of the fall as being part of the 1st of all this, the quick one on this um you talking about the shady reason the government may have to drive into or get people away assuming that was the actual reason. would that make sense to drive that will get people to achieve that?
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you know, it's, it's not because it's before it's been useful time and also then it's the gift before us that it has been so that we shouldn't make that decision on or if the government was by the process in that process of being cause autism. and you'll get people do get if i need to contact all the information i need to be given to them so that they understand why they need to get out of the why, what is being solved so that they make that decision knowing what devices they useful and then the government needs to provide a bit as a benefit setting for me that we have to get up to the, the, the, the, the, that what they do to be. so how do gigs have benefits? that's how something that's being thrown up. so at the end of the day who wins is, that's the case. the government says this is what they want to do with the forest. they want to protect the forest or get people who say, hey,
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this is why we've been or allies. we don't want to leave, what happens now? what options are they will get? people have left you have to remember that any government projects the projects off to be done in the model that except people that i told the people i'm the gift being the indigenous people that disc stand up stuff the government wants to have this done, the international stuff that's, that's kind of okay, now i find to good now by ignoring some of those that are not in the last the last the data to the liable to see us the progressions lucky sunday. okay. but do anything else? no. okay, let's see. i know m y a east africa direct to human rights watch. thank you. that's all we have on a program. ma star is go to d, w dot com slash africa, or visit us on facebook on x. and that's wrap up the show,
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