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and let's see chris live behind these discovered mileage benches and 360 degrees and explore fascinating boats. heritage selling d w world heritage 360. now the state of the news africa coming up under program. the forgotten war. incidentally, the, with thousands of people killed and millions displaced. 8 organizations, one of the catastrophe, as the situation is worse than in the u. n. says basic supplies to support people in need are running out the reports or has gained exclusive access to the south of the country into their rebel controlled and move a mountains. one of the most dangerous and isolated regions of savannah,
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where people now feed to seek shelter. he played a lot to get them, but now god has taken them away from me. i believe we got to touch the government class in kenya. the government's so called forest protection plan is driving indigenous people out of the homes. they accuse as far as the ranges of destroying the houses, leaving them with nowhere to go home. i came the very t as in nowhere else to know that my grandmother, my great grandmother of areas. where else will i go? a grew up being told, this is my home to where else. so they want me to go look you up in the i and the mike, how junior and you welcome to the program aid organizations. i want to know if he
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hung are catastrophe in sit down as a result of the conflicts there. which date is probably about the forgotten war? much of the wealth attention has been elsewhere on russia's fighting and you cream and the reasons war between each route and how much. owing to don altoff nearly 25000000 people in need of a to the united nations has only been able to reach a small fraction and funding even for that is running low. so don's war you're up to 8 months ago after a fee of tension between the military chief general abdel spot top, who hon. onto the general mohammed hum done delgado who is colonda of the probably 2 rapids support forces the fights and has killed more than 12000 people so far and displeased by 6000000 people pass sedans already struggling. the economy is on the verge of collapse. you and so you want to, to in coordinate task force it on says the situation on the ground is getting worse by the day the situation and so down 8 months after the conflict started is
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catastrophic. despite the valiant efforts of the humanitarian community, the partners, the agencies on the ground, we are still facing significant challenges. we have about 7000000 people displaced in sudan, which is the highest displacement situation globally. so we are stretched in terms of our ability to respond to what is quite a high number of of needs across the board. we're facing a population, but it's about 24700000 people in need of humanitarian assistance to date. we've been able to reach about 4000000, and our goal is to hopefully reach around 18000000. our overall budget. our needs is about 2600000000 to date. we've received only $38.00 points,
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6 percent upside from on this. let's bring in the abdomen. them before my general list on so then these come in tates as she's now based in egypt, cairo. hello dahlia. welcome to the program. now you live in egypt, cairo after fleeing the recent fights and in your home country. so don human insights with people on the ground. what are the telling you about the concepts going on? i'm, i'm horrible. those who are in cartoon are still facing bombardment and fighting between the iris, if in the army and those who are in charge, most, many of them have been forced to flee for their own safety and their in caps. refugee camps on the border with chad, and the situation is horrible. it's very dire, and humanitarian aid is unable to get through. and at the same time, not enough humanitarian aid is being, is, is coming in to sit down in the surface to become a forgotten conflict. but for me,
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the 40 to me, the incident needs is a software guessing conflict. the numbers that are coming up every week from agencies like late nights of nations and the red cross make for a frightening read higher. we uh, something like how familiar half the population, nearly some 25000000 to the knees are in need of humanitarian aid. nearly 70 percent of the countries, hospitals and health clinics are out of service including schools and universities . so there's no positive information coming. go sit down at this moment. yeah. it definitely doesn't sound like that to uh, how people surviving those that you are in touch with or through the help of local groceries, organizations, and responders, you know, their local initiatives, grassroots initiatives, mainly run by, you know,
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use for just finding whatever means they can't be able to get supplies, medical aid, and even money to those who can't. uh, cartoon him is pretty much a battle ground, a daily battle ground between the army and the militia, and therefore, is pretty much now under the control of the militia. and so it's a nightmare, it's very hard for them to do it, but they're somehow still doing, you know, doing what they can and in the way, because the state, colorado has collapsed there is those that stay the right to the door. so it's down to the initiatives local initiatives, whole ground grass was initiatives that are somehow keeping the fabric of so that needs society, you know, lives and or if you think about the latest about time to mediate a ceasefire again, it seems to have failed. why it, as it keeps feeling you think because neither sides is
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being honest about wanting to cease fire. i think end of the day, it's a power struggle between 2 military units. and each one is fighting to gain control to gain power to gain the power. and there is no sense from them that it's a lose lose situation in their opinion. if either, if they agree to assist for it because the conditions put in place by others by both sides on each other. and i don't see how anyone can, can make sure that those agreements are fulfilled. because even agree on allowing a humanitarian passage convoys to get through, how are they going to agree on ending the fighting? and at the same time, international party, international actors who can have an influence on not pulling their weight so to speak. mean, nothing more can be done from the international arena to pressure both sides to to,
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you know, bring the end to the conflict, but not enough pressure is being applied. and the regional of the actors. yeah, sorry it's got you the what kind of pressure is needed. we talk about giving them price. uh, what is the price of that? we really get them to say, hey, let's, let's call policies file and this conflict. stop the supply of arms. economic sanctions. and use, you know, and use your bilateral relationship as a way to pressure. but these 3 at these 3 points, those who can on even following through each side has it's been the fact. so each side has a supporter and each side is continually getting the arms the means to continue this war. and unless you cut that stream of supports arms and money is what will continue and the saving defects that when you, who in your opinion is funding that there's a question you seem to be saying,
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those who can stop it, not doing it because you have benefiting somehow for me to add these people, you're talking about the regional neighbors and the regional powers in the middle east. and in africa they have been they have played a big part in the continue in this, in the, in the outbreak of this war. and they continue to pay a big part in the continuation of this war. and at the same time, you have the european, the western nations, but the european union, the 9th of states, detroit and the, when not really having much of a say, you know, there's not, there's very little interest you know, or to bring up to bring about pressure on the parties that are helping to, you know, extend this war and it's in the data game of politics. at the same time, you have other conflicts going on around the world, which i've taken attention to, you know, they've been grapple the attention. so it's very hard to you know,
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to stand up and say, what about us look at us. so this is why we as to the needs we come in and this is where we need to do what we can. and in our case, and my case is to work on the humanitarian side to help those or who can't, who, who's, who need help and aren't getting any help me. you've talked about returning home to sit down soon, barry and all of that we've, we've said dr. now the challenges in a cease file and then the conflict. how realistic is it for you to return home to a peaceful sit down every day i wake up with a different idea one day a wake up and i think it's hopeless, but i will never see my home country again. and other days i wake up and i'm like, no, it's of the own. this is on us as to the needs to make sure that we do have a home to go back to. and it's just call, it's a continuous, you know, self conflict that i face. and that i truly believe that if security was, you know, safety wise, i can go back,
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i think me and more the thousands of others. we will do that because we'd like to treat, we'd been uprooted and you know, we, we, this is our home. it's forgiving us so much of a stick and so much from us. but it's out home. and no matter where you go, no matter how welcome you made to feel or unwelcome, it's never the same feeling as being in your own place. and i think for me that's the driving factor. busy that i am working on and i hope that maybe this time, next day if i, if i speak to you again, i'll be like, i'll be speaking from car to or i'll be speaking from other some other sedans have done. so i really, i really, i really hope so too, and we will keep reporting on this until the well pays enough attention. dahlia abdel millennium. thank you very much for your time. thank you for having me . now the escalades in the wall has made it dangerous for journalists to report
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from many parts of savannah. but al correspondence, mario luda succeeded in gaining exclusive access to the south of the country into the remote on the rebel controlled, knew by mountains where more and more people flee for safety. as these remote pods of sedan has become a place of refuge for people fleeing the war and some of them can now tell the stories. my name is honda, how mulder i fled from one heart to of to last my 2 children and one of my legs shipped to tell the stories we had to enter so done illegally by ourselves. so done to reach the remote new the mountains region check points, a guarded by the s p. m and rebel group. they have been fighting the sudanese government for almost 40 years, demanding self determination and secularism. now the war has re ignited this old
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conflict. as we travelling with german and g o cover no more, we are allowed to pass. after an 8 hour drive, we reach a good weekend, thousands of internally displaced. people have sold refuge here, including honda. how much fit i've done at the bomb. he tell a house, i didn't lose my legs straight away and it didn't take me to to sense that it was set up like someone who cannot. when i bought it just felt number of a couple figures. she was taken to hospital when she woke up from surgery to amputate her leg. the doctors told her that she had also lost her 2 sons. our teeth and the other 2 were only 2 and 4 years old. i live in by children, the adorable. we played a lot together, but god has taken them away from me. i will leave it to go to charge the government . i don't blame god for it was thinking about them. i was thinking that i wanted to kinda shake it took a while, a lovely, a quote, as
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a 1000000 people reach the remote into the mountains region. this local church played a crucial role in providing century many people in the congregation here today say, and they have this man to thing for their lives in boston. most equity has to finish that in a few weeks after the fighting broke out. he organized 23 buses, which transported 1500 residents of park to him, to safety and the new by mountains. our people, the scott that the people died uh, people, there were not to, they were not having food. the bus katie mall, done the number not to use a post, okay. because people that i knew from that and they were not able to instead of that, so we just from the bus. and if there's a lot of, and i haven't gotten the way people in this region have to get by without help, 8 organizations can't access it because of the fighting. almost 10000 people have
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found refuge in this camp. now at least they have a sense of safety, but not much else. they like clean water, proper food and shelter, and the only medical facility has not enough medicine. despite what she's gone through, kind of how moto says she won't give up. she has 2 other children to take care of. i don't know. so i was told that i may make, they may be good for that and let them be happy. they should not see them, right. we don't have a complete right, i'm practice to do. but if i don't do one, so that a minute just them to say that i'm with the was still ongoing. many of the stories of those who have been affected are only starting to trickle out. what's clear is that the effect will last well into the next generation
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less now turn our attention to kenya for a plan to say for us and fight climate change is the link to the removal of indigenous people from their homes. they will get community have lived in the mile forest for generations spot the now find themselves on the wrong side or forest restoration efforts. and c ranges from kenya for a service destroying the houses, leaving them displeased on the destitute. we reached out to the government for comments, but have not gotten a response yet. use fedex. maureen got reports from sussing, whiny village in the mile forest complex. someone was zillow, save the ranges from the cabinet, for the se, destroyed his house, leaving him with practically nothing through my ze go. what do i owe my king? the buried he has done. you? i be moving and i grew up. i didn't know where else to, but i know that my grandmother and my great grandmother up, they are ready to die. and where else will i go? i grew up being told,
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this is my 100 albany where else that they want me to go with you when you're not being a lot of toys. say she was in her house with her 5 children when everything just came connected. now on the website too. and they left nothing outstanding people, man. neither would they leave anything behind. and i the even stone hose access show type of boiling on mays eat my end. it took a quick and thought they were just saying they would be using the a do i know i can wish in my mind. we ask the for this type of use, a boat and a guess. what if it's a range of destroyed this house is bought the face to replace. this is what the force obviously is supposed to protect the vast small for this complex. the kids of government save people living there have been damaging the for us. the president told them to leave when visiting the retail, while they by the local does, did in the 1st trip planned to vacate as soon as possible. i will put up a fence and that is not to request stuff that i need. and the reason human rights
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last suggests the connection of the international couple and not getting them to setup during play. mention saw me, it's these have made for us to by level we know that they'll get being evicted, like in the name of a conservation. we also know that that's a lot of interest from those who are engaging in, in helping trading in, in kenya and, and kenya is forrest and all the assets. so i think if you, if you place in the wider context, i think it's, it's bad to say that there were concerns about the okay sounds maybe being taken away for full cub and credit. they all get people development program is trying to persuade government just of everything and teaching us people. we hope that the government we are, let's see that it's a matter of importance to stop eviction of indigenous communities in kenya. second thing we ex, picked the government to invite members of the community to uh,
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negotiation table. so that consolidation happen and the road map on recipient communities. it does come inches in for us by way of giving them line by way of composition for damages, etc. happens sofa if what's just top that makes sense. talk about compensation have faded besides the remains of a house that was exemplary, demolished by that kind of government belonging to one of the community members now on to okay. so it's in 2017 and to extend to the african court on human and people . it's right to ask the kind of government to do to produce funds for the damages caused to the community. but instead of compensation, destruction has continued to take place and the community members are constantly living in fear. so, these 2 minutes told us arrange us because our 10 families are asked if they didn't leave the homes. they've taken what they could carry into. i love that in future. i
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am now joined by let's see, and i'm why the staff or go direct to human rights watch. hello is that now us we had in the reports, they all get people say being violently evicted. and in some cases, even abused, the organization has been investigating these claims. what have you found out that they should go get this cleared up because uh, the government seemed to be starting clock on us and dallas, acknowledging an ongoing process and either or the setup in the interview. so we just got one eviction. notice i told following, no, no, no, no, very nice. the certainly the and using the police sense until it is up to the people. we don't give you a good time to look at the notes showing them where to go. i'm not providing any of the supplements support uh,
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i mean talking about called readings uh the east african costs of justice. we century also audited canyon governments to stop the evictions and pay the it'll get people compensation. what is a government's of lights to photo that order but the government housing dependents funded in any meaningful way on housing stops. if you're some sort of short inside fact, they're planning to fix difficulties and that is best getting 9. what you're seeing with the kind of the decision, but yeah, i think economic benefits of anything besides the rights of people of and it's, i think what you're seeing when you get to have understood that the government actually is planning is, is going to see that and using that part of the funding for a couple of the team problem. uh, so the, everything to be,
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it's not decided because of the finest up for a couple of quick we just really it is 10 because the public se benefiting the community. so i'll talk to you. so basically you're trying to say that there's a bit more of a shady reason that the government is trying to drive that will get people out. is that right? definitely not that the government itself states that's um that doing that because of the 1st up we have good information to suggest that i could get evicted though. guess because bill in entered into a document they got in touch with the company to come on upset the for the part of the fall as being part of the 1st of all. just a quick one on this. um you talking about the shady reason the government may have to drive into or get people away assuming that was the actual reason would that make sense to drive that will get people to achieve that?
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i know it is not because it defies useful also then it's the gift before us that it has been sold out. this will should make the decision on or if the government was right, the process is in the process of being consultation and you'll get people do get if i need to contact all the information you've given them so that they understand why they need to get out of the why as, as being solved so that they make that decision knowing what devices they useful. and then the government needs to provide a business benefits setting for me that we have to get up to the, the, the, the, the, the credits of the. so how the gigs have weight benefit, that's how something that's being brought up. so at the end of the day, who wins in such a case, the government says this is what they want to do with the 4 ways they want to protect the forest or get people who say, hey,
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this is why we've been or allies. we don't want to leave what happens now? what options do they will get? people have left so you'll have to remember that any government projects, the products of to be done in the amount of that suspects of people that i told the people i'm doing give being the indigenous people that disc, spend, that stuff that i mean lots to offer based on the most, most of us that cannot cannot house by to good. now, by ignoring it, some of those has not been to the last the last the data to the liable to see us the professions look the sunday. okay. be back to anything else. no. okay, let's see. i know them why? east africa direct to human rights watch. thank you. that's all we have on a program from all of our star is go to dw dot com slash after draft or visit us on
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