planned and israel bits of causes tension surrounding the israel, how mazda will threaten to escalate the bite and administration has been growing increasingly vocal and it's cold for israel to do more to prevent civilian casualties in gaza is around now says it will drill down forces in the territory, but build that be enough to switch to a continued us support on god. it was in berlin and this is the day the still has a significant force by here. and so i will apply maximum power with maximal precision that we were that's new. the american people continue to stand with israel until when we see this great nation restore the peace and security that you enjoyed before october 7th. it is absolutely attainable goal for the israeli

military forces to, to degrade and defeat a mazda is abilities to conduct attacks inside israel, but also coming up ukraine denies the war against it's russian invaders. is that a style much about this little movement on the front lines? and one reason for that is quite clear. that's the name of the army should die. lemme is the ukraine only you have it gets what it needs to. 10 in a symmetrical situation into a symmetrical one, but to little to actually drive the russians to enter into negotiations with a single ticket 20 problem. and will welcome to the show us secretary of state antony blinking is heading to the middle east again for bill be his 4th visit. so the region since almost lost a large scale terrorist attack on his route on a so,

but the 7th last year. since then, as well as taking the war 2, how mazda in gauze, up in response. the photo out from that will continues to threaten why the conflict in the region is well set. on monday it was regrouping its forces in goss. i'm, and will change the way it's fighting. hum us, which is seen as a terrorist organization by the us. the you and many others and statements to what the end of last year the us cold on is well to do more, to prevent civilian casualties in god's hold into a most controlled authorities that, that was now killed more than 22000 people bought the 1st statement from the white house in the new year show continued support for as well as will goals and gaza. the destruction of how most smooth militarily being high on that list is national security council spokesman john covey. we have estimates low to put the numbers out there right now because they are just estimates, but uh,

but how much still has a significant force posture. and so i guess we believe that it is absolutely attainable goal for the israeli military forces to, to degrade and defeat a mazda is abilities to conduct attacks inside israel. they, they can, it can be done militarily. are you going to eliminate the ideology? you know, and are you likely going to erase the group from existence? probably not. but can you eliminate the threat that i'm aust poses to these really people? absolutely. i'm telling me now is so long left. he worked for 7 consecutive is rarely prime ministers between 19902016 he's come through with the atlantics council and joins us from jerusalem. welcome to the day. now the us as questions is riley tactics and gaza. but what it is they're all have been able to use the force it has without the backing of us in the 1st place. a bit to me

with your dot. now i get hard to next. um i initially i think did you know the idea free bound good after the atrocities off it was telling me no no fell back on uh much better for anything that had initially when it was caught by surprise. but i think later it's um, it would have been very difficult post. impossible, sir, is also mounted. the effort that we've seen a guy without the, you know, the cost assistance in united states, we've seen over $200.00 plains of munitions coming to restock us, really arsenals. we're seeing the support united states has provided the security council to, to push back against resolutions of, of called for an immediate cease fire. so i think um, you know, it's pretty clear right now that's uh, you know, there right now the united states and there's also see a line to list as far as the campaign is concerned. and then the goal of defeating size, which across the united states and much of europe, which has defined alphonso, tell us organization, and obviously the shared interest of almost barnes. now israel says it's changing its tactics now with the reduction of troops that are actually in gaza. and

a shift of tactics which should reduce the civilian casualties among palestinians. how's that shift come in time to prevent president biden from rethinking his approach to support for israel? well, i mean, those, those channels of communication are open on a cost basis able to peer. so i think we've seen um, you know, we've seen comments coming out of washington suggesting that it has been receptive to their concerns. i'm, as you say, the claimant is moving to out to the next day. says they have defined it now. you know, that's how many reservists are being rotated out. and um is always moving some more to precision operations within, within the gaza strip. obviously, american concerns of a voice thumb issue of trying to keep long to bands and keep them away from the fighting and to increase the 1000000000 aid. some were heard by his role as well. you know, there was a push back to back to the extent to which you know, what could happen in the world. but then obviously all concerns that i just see

a tab was open to for that could actually help actually sustain some awesome power . but i think that, you know, those concerns are being, are being for here. and i think it's probably safe to say that again, i've space, there's always there really with them. you know that israel is moving onto this to this next phase of the campaign, which hopefully will be a little more. yeah, yeah let's, let's look into the future a bit, a kind of should israel formulate what kind of deal it wants with the palestinians off to is was old. but we see a lot of resistance always say to having discussion was israel i'm with, you know, it's really physicals partners about the proverbial day after i'm actually tonight, the security cabinet. i think i me and the workshop in both cabinets will be meeting toxic. have that and their central discussion at least on the dates that they've publicized. um, i mean it would be virtually inconceivable. certainly in terms of instruct planning and then for, you know, as partners that are on the side of that conversation would not happen. i think that, you know, there's a, there's definitely a need for us all to start talking about not only what it doesn't want in terms of

the future about the, you know, what, what channel names on the ground, what kind of arrangements it does say moving forward to be able to, to maintain stability and security in that area. i think that if they were not doing that, that would create a danger vacuum that you know, that nobody would want to see. and, you know, then does it take us place this week? nobody wants to go, i'm sure that those, you know, those issues will take a little factor prominently and secondary blinking stocks when he visits his all, i'm actually now let's take a quick look at the personalities the president by and has been a staunch supporter of as well, as is a code wishful over the course of his career, but county is really rely on such strong vaccine from us politicians in the long term, a present binding remarkable allies, right? so, you know, as you say, well, we were talking earlier, we're pushing back against the calls for an immediate cease fire in gaza right now, which i've been brought some price of the security council. i mean, that would leave over a $150.00 gas constant just because i would be it's on us and power and gaza. you know, one been promises that they made or pledges to repeats the events of october 7th

until, you know, he's over destroyed so. so, um, you know, so that, that's been teacher important as well. i think it's even more, more extraordinary under the political circumstances. but given the political circumstances in which we operate, i mean, president biden is on the cusp, or in the middle of a 20 to 2024 election campaigns. is israel policy is not all that popular wizard in certain quarters or his party. i'm, you know, so he's got to do this and force of conscience and of course, you know, his belief that this is the right thing from united states. i mean, even one has been pushed back. so, you know, i don't think that um, everything is all can be certain that any successor in his chair would uh, you know, would maintain the level of support that is what i've seen from him on a personal level now. so but benjamin netanyahu, he is a device if they are in israel to digital, traditional re phones. okay. some point, if israel needs to focus more on national security in the future than politics, as you have written, kind of do that with an engineer it's usually important flashed in,

um, i think that's uh, you know, the unique unity of purpose that we see there as well, during this campaign is under threat, as you say, again from sort of partisan wins um, judicial for mailing us that are a former back on the table. again, they were a couple of supreme court rulings this week, but as far as that's concerned front of the frame, um we've had to dispute the budgeting priorities with either sort of patronage issues being fed into the budget or the timing of those trying to fund that expensive. busy or, you know, there are a lot of questions about whether or not this was capable of doing that. clearly is one that does not get a handle on that problem and does not prioritize national security over this political issues. i think that you know, it, it lists undermining the solid theories that will allow for this campaign to continue. i think it would probably also joins the question the sustainability of this government coalition over time. and it's, you know, at the time when you say there's a device in this scenario and then, you know, people will not, not be willing to uh, to rally to again the circumstances such as those and now is we're looking at is

arouse a deep alliance with the us that is still couldn't currently has, which could of course change, depending on who is at the top the, in the us does is around that really have any alternative to this. this friendship is support uh, within from the united states. sure. uh, not really i would argue and maybe you know the article for it, but i just wouldn't. lastly, i think that's, you know, we're, we're, as we've seen other parties in the middle east maybe had to go back to the russians with the chinese. i don't, i don't think that's really a viable option for his 12, no budging and mosque out in support of those on us. they've been pushing back against, you know, as it was by or using the security council. they certainly would not be delivering the levels of aid, which, you know, as well as in slide as a thinking, united states that allowed this company to continue. so i mean for the time of the time being for the simple future, i don't think that you know, as well as another viable washington, it's alliance with united states. now a settlement event. thank you very much for sharing your expertise with us.

pleasure. be with you now the eyes of the well, the of course, currently focused on the middle east, but the war in ukraine is also raging on russians. military began to year by launching some of it's most intense strikes on the ukraine cities since the invasion. nearly 2 years ago, you current president, florida, mister lensky says his country has been hit by hundreds of missiles in recent days . russia for his ball to choose his chief of selling the boat, a city of better or killing at least $25.00 civilians. that despite the intensive 5 hostilities observe a sight as badly any movement on the front line. that's take a look at why the war has booked down. these are images from the telegram channel, a few cranes, 3rd, a salt brigade. they show a slow and brutal war between russia and ukraine, high and casualties,

and slow and movement. but the, the front line and ukraine's east has hardly budged. some military analysts say the current style made his ultimately to russia's advantage. russian forces are dug in behind. a fortress of tank traps, mine fields, and other obstacles. the red on the map marks russian positions along the front. satellite images indicate that russian troops are reinforcing these areas. more than $8000000.00 land mines are estimated to be buried. their ukrainian army has not been able to find a way through, and they are dependent on supplies of western munitions. these have been slow and coming. ukrainian soldiers have to rush 155 millimeters shelves accumulation in their defense. just as the name of the r and be sure, lemme is the ukraine only you have, it gets what it needs to 10 and a symmetrical situation into a symmetrical one, but to little,

to actually drive the russians to enter into negotiations with a frequency can 20 some problem to put another winter of war is settling in over ukraine, like the last one. its cities and infrastructure are under air attack. american made f sixteens are on their way, but you, for any and pilots still need training. ukraine hopes they can challenge russian fighters in the sky. on the ground, ukraine's air defense is in better shape. s a. m p t units from france, iris t from germany. patriot from the u. s. anti aircraft tags, such as the german cap can fend off drone attacks. both sides are making extensive use of these on crude aerial vehicles. and if you see now, but each side knows what the other is doing because of the use,

especially get many of the strains if we have what many have referred to as the future. so called transpired and battlefield, that's is what happens on the battlefield. each site immediately has an idea of what's happening for ukraine to take the offensive. it will need more weapons from its western partners. otherwise, russia's numerical superiority has a good chance of simply waiting out the stalemate. for more analysis on this, that's across the case and bringing the above table, it's got, she's an expert in hybrid wolf and who runs a military consultancy and has advice ukrainian government. now you have described your expertise as russian hybrid threats before we get into the details. can we brush up on the terminology? what does hybrid wolf in town? and thank you so much. first of all to for having me here today. um, when we speak about uh, hybrid square for we speak about the whole complex of interference,

including this information in cyber attacks, attacks, economical interference, political corruption, and other means. so a lot of the main of these non military threats that ukraine is facing country of course, we still face a very different best uh cyber attacks. but i would say that these information is the major threats for our population. if we are not speaking about military means, because russia is trying to do more lies our society to make us basically to surrender distress, fatigue not only within our society, but also within um, our partners, our elyse across the world. can you give us an example of what multiple sco is doing to disseminate misinformation and how this may be a risk getting you credit is national security or were you since any ukraine?

uh, we have a lot of different masters but where people exchange information for instance, vibrant telegram and telegram is absolutely not secure, were messenger. it's very easy to get there. and it's very easy to run different different telegram charts or groups where people take new strong. and unfortunately in the ukraine telegram is the 1st source of information for our people. and these are telecom trots or telecom channels. there are anonymous there, the telecom doesn't have any uh, secure just standards, any community standards. so basically anyone can run them. and there are a lot of these information there on vibrant. there is a different type of uh, interference, for instance, just one simple example. ukrainians get there in different charts, for instance,

people who lost their loved ones, those who were killed or those who were maced on the battlefield. and um, people get together and it's very easy to infiltrate those vibrant trusts. and i, so i participated in some of these charts and they saw that some unknown features were trying to provoke people to go and protest to go against authority outweigh against the government. for instance, to go and block the routes where western weapons coming on. so there are a lot of different types of how russian, this information machine can interfere ukrainian society and do more a license to make people think that we are losing or to make people think that our government is not protecting us. so of course, as you say,

the ukrainian government is, is also engaging in, in these tactics. and how does it, does it what you said? because it's above controlling the narrative of this full, what do you would say uh, would you say is most skillful in controlling this narrative, russell, you right. i would say that the ukraine, ukraine, ukrainian government controls the narrative. uh, simply because we understand what the threat is coming from. we feel its every day . just the last, you know, 5 days, russell a longer, more than 500 me cycles and 10 trunks on us. so it's uh, uh, easier for us to understand where it's russian does information when we know when we feel physically the threat. but in other countries in the, in the societies of our elyse. sometimes it's not that easy because there are

a lot of different narratives that brussel sprouts, for instance, narratives about your brain and corruption, or you creating on the refugees. all these, all these narratives make people feel that the world last too long, and it's time to end it. and some people initiate some piece plans or some peace negotiations for us is not an option for now because we still have solid and suppression troops on our territory. and the main precondition for the peace talks would be getting out russian troops. russian forces from a territory the hybrid wolf accidentally with c both. scott, thank you very much for sharing your expertise with us a thank you. the right code number of people headed from south america towards the us border last year, facing disease and violence along the way. and the per realtors jungle crossing it

takes days to walk through the darian gap. hundreds kilometers of jungle between columbia and panama. many of those making the trip of children who sometimes lose that parents along the way, an estimated $500000.00 people for the violence and poverty and the homelands make the crossing. in 2023 dw spoke with a few of them. this is by how to quito panama 1st community were migrants arrive after walking for about a week through the jungle of the diarrhea and got hundreds of people arrived here every day. the villagers pick them up in canoes, not any left her home in venezuela with her husband, 3 children, and in lots they spent some time in peru before deciding to make the tracking north

towards the usa. the trip to the jungle was brutal. she says they saw the terrible things going on. yeah, they told us that we would find the canoes assessed and pointing somebody they'd like to find the know we had 2 full days in the jungle. i mean not. and then on the way we saw that and bluetooth bodies of people and of animals, a persona in china. after signing in with panama immigration authorities, many come to the make shift health center. most suffer from severe dehydration, bruises and gastro intestinal elements. nobody's husband has stones in his foot, and her daughters have rashes and fungal infections. her baby has also lost weight, but follow any. the fear and threats she encountered were the worst, or what kind of stuff they told us we had to pay a $100.00. oh, they would take her children and they had a when we said we didn't have any money. they said they were going to keep us the

right one of the children. okay, and are you and have you like, oh, mean a lot of the most of the people here tell us that on the columbia inside they are guides who takes them through the jungle. the guides will also carry backpacks and provide medicine. they charged $350.00 for some, it's a price worth paying on kind of close to some allison, although the costs are sometimes quite high, they provided us with security all the way to the border of them from the columbia and border into panama after the military barracks is where we had problems. we were assaulted a most of us have the bellows, the canoes. leaving baffled to quito, navigate for hours to the next migration reception station. their agents checked their bags to confiscate dangerous objects and weapons. the conditions in the camp or better thanks to the increased presence of

international organizations. although some say serious issues remain a i know we have problems with the food is going bad and there are children who is sick animal. this tend is a place for children to feel safe to play and receive psychological care to overcome the trauma of the trip. more and more children are arriving alone, or is samuel year on year is more than tripled. most of the 3000 on a company to set price of children have already passed through here. it's a question of you survival when the moms with that can no longer work, they know planning coming out of mas as awful as conditions are. these people are the lucky ones to survived the dangers of the dairy and got a the denmark. now the queen

magazine has made have final public appearance before stepping down on january 14, the 83 year old road through copenhagen and a golden carriage pulled by 6 wide horses. the trip from the residence to parliament is part of the annual new year's celebrations. the monarch meets with members of the forces and of the screen migrate to made the surprise announcement of abdication during her new year's eve speech sighting, health issues face for 2 years on the throne may cause europe's longest southern living monarch. she will be succeeded by other functions. and here's what some people in an icy cold copenhagen add to say after taking the final shots to see green by the way, to why she is still raining lock. very surprised. we have,

we have netflix effective. it is yours. you say i stay on july 4 dollars from by jeff. yeah, i tried and i do that now because it is uh, emotionally, a very big moment because she's seen that since i was 3 years old. i was checking the cost of of them that was heavy and it was heavy for frederick because he would have this model in the 1st probably difficult. yeah. and that wraps up the show for today. follow a team on social media apps, dw news and events. the latest headlines you looking for as always, a website dw, dot com for now for the entire team on the day. thanks for spending part of your day with us the, [000:00:00;00]

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