much faster things, trace amounts, but it's still actually about mills join us as we travel around your, facing the history of every day of that. and that's something right around the world. and i need to talk to you back, just a subscriber id. listen to pop, gosh, then we'll take you along for the ride, the, the israel, how about us was moved briefly to an open call to be the hague. as the international court of justice hud accusations of israel had committed genocide, gaza, protest any as welcome to move, including my guess was stuff about booty, the westbank, who had the policy, the national initiative. once we went to the court immediately to allow me just to say that there is the mission of genocide and to give as an add on or the stop know, faculty, the flow is valid and so it gets all civilians. but he was a special combinations of israel. so how will and how will the hatred of,

i'm just afraid i'm can gaza ever be rebuilt and the better future be salvage level, the suffering of destruction. the complex thank you, but to be with you, you've said that as well is failing. it's because i had a it was in the cause of war, but jerusalem exists it. how boss will be liquidated, and the fighting will go on until that happens. do you seriously doubt israel is the ability to achieve that fe? the absolutely. yeah. not on the mean. i think the media isn't really that is like, i think got was a number of the what had been a thought of saying the same. isn't that nothing you know is trying to create an impossible mission by trying to display how much, how much is not just admitted that it's structured? it's much. this is much bigger than that. and the, i don't think the, this,

this is a good that should be the sort i think that i have, which is to ask, what can be done to in this for the situation. yes, but let's put in there. how about how about a minute to find a city? a group is classified as a terrorist organization. jeopardy the you, us, do you really think at some point as well, we'll just give up the fight against it. is that i wouldn't have to make these was all the listing is including time us. there is no other way eh, montana and book. your vision is not the solution. thinking of ethnic cleansing as a solution is also impossible. so there is only one way in and uh, to my knowledge, how much would it be to do to accept a listing. and steve, within that acts of that expected to step solution that's design austin. but to continue with this occupation will not be to enter solution onto piece. i want to

get into just what kind of future you envisage for the palestinians a bit later. but there's been a huge debate around the world about the force of israel's response to what happened on october. the 7th you have of course, condemned that responds. but on send me this. if you will, in a single day, how must must have good hundreds of his race in the west attack of jew since the 2nd world war women and children. oh, people were murdered, some or even right to a sexually abused for some of the we're actually in the peace movement. is it time that how was there as well? supposed to react to that? that's the next. i agree that uh, i do not accept that. can you go to the engineering, go to the human near to mississippi and the see now known as the name. but i don't think that the fact that csr isn't any the children would come that the just unacceptable is justification fucking 10000 by the city and children. that is

unacceptable. but you're not the, i'm the, i'm the history of the not started. i'm just events of october. the big question here is how many pundits doing ends up being killed since 1948 and what happened before the 7th of october. and so we have time, i can describe that, but i think the message, the other thing is we have receiving that isn't as does not belong to. these does not want to know about the students, students, and intuition and nothing else in the united nations and kind of the model is showing the annexation of not on the list, but also guys are the cdn, okay. by the heights. nothing, you know is declaring company do not use the best prime minister to prevent a listing and states. so what is the best solution to plan on violence? is it to continue the environmental garza which has already taken the lives of

$29000.00 people? if we include the people on the table or to find a differently here, you haven't got my question, which was how was israel supposed to respond to what happened on october? the 7th, we could get it to the history we will get into the history. but, but what kind of response would you expect israel to have made? i'm didn't how boss expect that it would be exactly what happened exactly what happened? look at how much it, how is it as responded with boom, bottom into guts, continuously for see leaks using on types of s. dikes, the dentist line, 72 percent of all the houses income. you know, according to the most recent, because the points during the 2nd world war, germany has on the 10 percent of the homes and does that and government,

it's like unit on 2nd. what is it? i'm not the proportion of the different thoughts of this. the button that's the same proportion, that's what would it be that point of view. now what would be proportional just to see it to the was enough is enough with this step and violence. we don't want this to continue, and the end of the patient to i am not meant to conduct the thought and i know that you can killed the patient if you concentrate on the symptom of that event, the cause of the disease. you're saying, you're not saying that how boss is a was, as i said earlier, to provoke israel and to doing exactly what it did provide, must've been that tree retaliation and then condemn israel for it. no, i don't think so. i don't think i must expect to have this kind of an edge. i don't think so. maybe if they knew what, what was what going to happen? maybe they would have to revise the plans. i don't know, i'm not in the mines, but i know that we've been living so 75 for you as

a function of the displacement of ethnic cleansing, which effect of 70 percent of the palestinian people. i know that 70 percent of the population of guys that have fields if you use this list by is that in the 1948, i don't know what that goes. it has to be on the siege for 17 years with no electricity, no water, no running water? no, no, no equipment, me. 80 percent of the people. what i do kid live unemployed, and 70 percent were on the positive. what. what did that lead to? i know that's kind of sticking on, signed an agreement. i piece, i agree, mental it is or what they accept it. a very painful compromise. a state of 22 percent of the, of the historic palestine. all the united nations said we shouldn't have 44 percent . i'm still isn't and wouldn't accept. i know that nathaniel was needing this. one . may have that right mention. wait, wait, wait a minute. in december, 2000 president clinton, who had, excuse me, israel, who would back overdue

a state on 95 percent of the west bank, a 100 percent of the gaza strip with land swaps to compensate for the sacraments controller that are barriers of east jerusalem divided sovereignty. over the holy sides provision for the return of many palestinian refugees to the new state. it was even by the reckoning of palestinian company. the data is the best deal that you what ever offered of yasser arafat turned it down. so you can blame the lots of things, but you have also this opportunities along the way. this was the largest opportunity that you did miss watson, that you sent them. this is the short what you haven't got this could i know it's a global narrative. actually. i know it's not uh because what meds, uh the negotiations and then is that is that it was not accept listing and stuff

that i need to over is to have some that was the main close. why that these negotiations fence and visit my accept by this to me, i'm going to don't over the years and the jobs on friday. and they did not accept exactly that. they would withdraw. that's how much some though to bite the sign was the one find the not there is another side of that the deal certain said have you had a better off? no, no, that's good point. i'm just my, my question is, why is it an up to now is not saying to the world until you have the money. i have to buy the studios. what are they about? this is what is the only country in the world which refuses to identify it's about this. nothing now is say, i mean we find most likely him until destroyed. so starting nothing. yeah. the man may have the dimension of his life to can also the potential for the 2 state solution. okay. well the that, that, that is,

that is your narrative. that is the promise. basically a narrative. you have just because you accused me of pushing. israel is narrative, but that's yours. i want to ask you how important to you is the judge of genocide against israel brought by south africa at the international court of justice. do you do respect that court? absolutely, and i do think that south africa is clinic about getting this piece and it does not go into the south africa that we have to pull out to get the quotes, throws out the south african accusation of genocide. will you accept that or accused the cause of bias? we will not have to learn about deals by us. you will continue to that are going to make those understand what's happening. but if you're only when $29000.00 people, most of the studios outcomes, most of the civilians and when $10000.00 to the different outcome in less than 3 months, i'm doing 75 percent of the of the horses are destroyed and all you move us citizen

are destroyed and most trusted because i've destroyed and the of my weak stop. so it's necessary for the fishing us out of going back to the buyers that are in a good many of them. and 104. i'm dealing with this like, this is general side. and when, when i send you out and money out of that is that it really does declare in the very beginning of the war that's on palestinians must be evicted. but i'm going to sign on that there's an intention not on the conductive mckinsey, but to conduct general side bible by being the civilian population. israel has rejected the judge on many occasions, and we'll have to wait that several years for the court to give a final decision that may be interesting provisions that there's announces, but it could take a long time. we've got the court then what do we want from the court immediately if

you allow me is to saying that there is a suspicion of, of genocide. i'm to give it as an add on or the stop door or do you will as well resent the quotes if it doesn't do that. no, no, no, we have to step the we, we haven't been appealing to that international criminal court for 2 years now. just about to do what kind of society you talked about all the horrors that have been going on and gaza, the destruction, the death, the injuries, the lack of basic supplies, what, what kind of society can emerge from this war. after all, the physical and psychological damage, especially to children, i can literally have such a 100 even amount of damage and destruction we have to is one is to make it that isn't full of events. or another way is to make it an option. i believe in making

it i know, but strongly you had in mind. it was just an idea to invest a comfortable lot but deepens the business. and we can be built over the country. but we cannot to be built over the country when we are okay. bye bye. is it. and in my opinion the hood was must see us as equally human beings with eyes of it. when the, when the boy was, sorry, i'm sorry to interrupt you when the war as you want to see palestinian elections. you set the current crisis. you wrote to show the need for palestinians to have a unit 5 leadership and unified into the national unity government. the majority of power standing forces groups agree with this vision. really, they've never been able to agree on anything like it in the past that allowed unity between rival sections, how many promises were made about elections and then broke. and how many publishers about publish the new the t decade after decade idea of the never happened?

was it going to happen now? because we've never been in such a difficult situation as we are to the i'm any responsible. but a student on addition must accept the unity is the only way out of this mess. you know me, i've been an advocate, i'll tell you conciliation between side by side even with the them between them. and i was, the person who managed to convince them was creating a nation that even if the government in 2007, if that government stayed on, if the board cut it, we would have been now in a different situation. we went fed them that in 2021. we were just about to have the democratic connections for the 1st time since 2006 unfortunately is the obstacle to prevent the elections. they did not allow elections, enjoy those in the city, and also to use that as an excuse to cancel the elections, which was a big mistake. how do we have elections in 2021?

not think about the impact of started would have gotten an absolute majority. we would have had to have a democratic coalition and then a government that controlled in both west bank and gaza and then continue to struggle between to have independence and things and go to mention you say this without going to but the you've never showed that the palestinian authority in particular is never sure of much of the way of democratic credentials have. if you look at the flagrant human rights abuses committed by security services, the torture they abuse the club down and free speech. the interruption was that whole israel's fault. yes, this was not part of the know the wrong. they made them to not, not, it's not isn't as full alone. but it does. lot of really isn't and it falls because because it i in one of the city and most of it to be on the security card on them. they, it's, it's in the united states font in particular that if used to allow us to have

democratic city elections. okay. let's talk about the united states for a moment. because that view seems to be that any agreement must contain what they call a political horizon for the palestinians and ultimately a palestinian state. do you trust america to insist on that? again, it hasn't been part of the thinking for a very long time. has it? unfortunately, the states of america has lost their me an opportunity to be a total me do you understand me the kind of between us and visitor and, and that's why i don't think they kind of flip out some on why they are supporting this optimal city against us and why the out of pocket to see people in the themselves by sending americans on the part of the ship it and then on dominican advisors and, and planes. it's expensive to me. i don't know if i'm indeed do you have to be in boshamp in this case, the united states cannot be in boston because it is becoming a total and complete strategic support. federal is are, and it's an edition,

i guess, the bus student, people just about 13 by you don't have a choice here. you don't have a choice here. whatever you think of the, by the administration, a victory by donald trump in november wouldn't exactly it, hans. the palestinian position would so you're going to need to work with by now, whether you like it or not to the palestinian groups on the stop that we live. others used to work with by didn't. it's mr. devising who upstairs from doing excellent friend his duty during the 3 hundreds before the war started when he continued to save the post test solution is what we need, but it's not time for that. and wednesday nights of states of america did nothing to for us, is that i have to start building 7 months, which is a united states of america mex, it's the man office to can pull it up with the ability to state solution. so it's not our problem, it's not a problem then, but let me tell you what, what, what happened with that, and guess a union these days is very dangerous for the whole one. why?

because the team isn't on the united states, out of 10 in the world, that we don't have international law anymore. and that's what is done by those of younger, you know, what that would mean to other countries in this world. it would mean if you have a problem, you can do it if you want. well, let's do that. okay. can you guys look at that closer, closer to her with you? you reject violence against civilians you've made that perfectly clear. but if the engine um, but i'm not who i've been advocating environments all my life. i understand. but opinion polls in the west bank and gaza show growing approval for violence. what's cool down resistance, just 2 months into the war. 60 percent of palestinians said they'd back a violent struggle up 10 percent from before the conflict on palestinians tired of fighting, they really want more. i assume you have supported the resistance. it's through and

then be that many type of resistance of this time is a big majority of the think that many times it is this does is more effective mainly because it's an outcome the other way, which is the sony go see issues then what is missed that i best of his government, but i didn't go through yet. what is there any sort of have to use signing that agreement, making to use compromises and then get the nothing but human emotion. and as it is violation even of the stigma and also to has depriving goods from any also to, to whatsoever inventing all the policies and citizen, those back include the we've talking about the about, guys about also about the west bank, you know, and the west bank the army has, could probably be more than $540.00 people since the beginning of last year. and it goes on and set the packing gusts on said lot about receiving work on sundays and

rarely government. so that's what, i'm, how much does the government be? yes, but the from the other side, whatever israel did, her mouse was committed to its destruction. wasn't that the august 1998 governor made that clear. there's no solution that set for the palestinian question except through jihad initiatives. proposals and international conferences are a waste of time. factors from us never wanted to tool. it only wanted the fights and by all accounts, it still does is not the truth. not exactly because yes, little with such statements before, but i know exactly how from asked states because i met with them and all that mushy issues we had. i even managed to convince them was non violence. existence for more than 5 youths during which time was that it was peaceful demonstrations. i'm doing that back. there's supposed to be by there. is there any side? yes, i do you what they can accept. what was included in the national unity program of

our national unity government in 2007. and it was a clear, i found a simian state on 1967, but that's including these drawers and then i ended up location of that. do you want? i'm just not nation of, of that i to the dental about a student obviously, which is a very to the bottom of this if they got it. of course, of course, it's not the 2017. they said there shall be no recognition of the legitimacy of the zionist entity. so again, nothing to discuss the lift meant to do what mr. this must have said. who is the finance minister in these room and you can't say he's not in the government. that's in the minnesota and the government. he said he called him says he wasn't ty lambert, i'm calling from central refreshes on the floor. and he said that we, he said the business was from the west bank was several months since this. so that

kind of deals with lose any of the staples that on and then they wouldn't have one else any options either to leave, which is their, from the cleansing, all to accept a life of subjugation. please. elizabeth is up at night or by which is, which is genocide. this is the minute the all fine the i'm, what you said wasn't able to get that by the time you know, i, on, you could sit down and look for any new position that was expressed as it's homeless. i look in a different way. i see the reason of the people on both sides who could but i took that to find a way out of the situation, but to accept i may have a principle which has application of international, which is a few patients must and as an entity point to piece between both people. how like somebody is that how likely is a day of that's very low your, your a low voice, and the very big will that this onto the body. when i respond to itemize this

question many times, but i respond to that by asking the question, who, who have never thought the gentleman's unfinished people with confidence in such a way and they will be in union after having so many words. i think we have the promise, daniels, lives, jewish people are very much alike. we could build a field trip together to gather the van to continue to fight each other. and each of you, you, you wrote, you wrote in may last year that a great number of palestinians believe the only solution left is a single democratic state on the whole of what you go to started palestine without occupation, a positive or discrimination. in other words, a one state solution where all citizens have equal rights of equal duties. what are the makes you think that something like that is even remotely possible? because in that situation, like we have to do all the historic,

by this time we have about 7000000 jewish people, about 7000000 people living on the same land. one site is powerful. the other side is we one side design. ok, you buyer to the other side. this will to bite. what does the solution? one of the reasons, the 1st one is to state solution which is the most problem. the 2nd solution is one of the democratic states. where do we kind of live together equally and, or exist peacefully? the only attempt option because if mcclintic or 1st thing, that's exactly what happened, you know, i'm smart that it's out of time to do. and that's what, that's what i have to do in government. but that will not work. that's why we have one or 2 options. i said one of the book that i could speak, why not? and as one of my best friends, daniel button on the musician told me once. sometimes the boss of it is easy of the

difficult and that's why i will never stop believing that one democratic states couldn't be both of them. i know it looks now impossible with all these feelings of revenge of vengeance, etc. but my view with you as a leader is somebody who hope to be, but other than be picking them depressed very briefly cuz we're running out of time just literally what, what if you can't 5, the don't find the solution that you're looking for is october the 7th is going to happen again, and i hope not. i don't think violence is the solution to any other violence. i think that the action items, it isn't of the people on smart have to be, but look, always look forward and i turned up this past and that's what i would continue to 2nd floor. so that's i would have people eventually we'd be free. a lot of people would be accepted as because human beings, as we would have all the lights on top of which should be freedom on different stuff in faculty, thanks very much for being

a complex. so thank you. thank the

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