the show in the clouds it, it's time to us and then when generations class this week on d, w. v. israel, how boss was moved briefly to an open courtroom with the hague. as the international court of justice hud accusations of israel had committed genocide, gaza, protest any as welcome to move, including my guest, who stuff about booty, the westbank, who heads the policy, the national initiative. what do we want from the court immediately to allow me is to say that there isn't a mission genocide and we'll give it an or the stop no priority to close violence against all civilians. but he was of special combinations of israel . so how will the war and how will the hatred of good faith,

con garza ever be rebuilt, the better future be salvaged, the little the suffering of destruction? the complex. thank you, but to be with you, you've said that as well is failing. it's declared items in the cause of war, but jerusalem exists it. how much will be liquidated? and the fighting will go on until that happens. do you seriously doubt israel is the ability to achieve that fe. absolutely, i'm not on the mean. i think the media isn't really that is like, i think got was a number of the what had been a thought saying the same. isn't that nothing you know is trying to create an impossible mission by trying to display how much, how much is not just admitted that it's structured? it's much. this is much bigger than that. and the, i don't think the, this, this is a good, that should be the sort i think that i have, which is to ask,

what can be done to and just for the situation. yes, but let's put in a come by my boss is a minute to find a city. a group is classified as a terrorist organization. jeopardy, the you, us, do you really think at some point as well, we'll just give up the fight against it is all right, and we'll have to make these was all the listing is including time us. there is no other way at maintaining book you patient is not the solution thinking goals, ethnic cleansing as a solution is also impossible. so that as long as the one way in and the domain knowledge, how much would it be to do to accept the listing. and steve, within that acts of that expected to step solution that's design austin. but to continue with this occupation will not lead to enter solution onto piece. i want to get into just what kind of future you envisage for the palestinians

a bit later. but there's been a huge debate around the world about the force of israel's response to what happens on october. the 7th you have of course, condemned that responds. but on send me this, if you will, in a single day, how much must have good hundreds of his relatives in the west attack of jew since the 2nd world war, women and children of people with murder, some or even right to a sexually abused for some of the we're actually in the peace movement is it time that how was there as well supposed to react to that press the next. i agree that i do not accept that. can you go to the injury and go to the human? do you think i need to be on the policy now? don't hesitate. but i don't think that the fact that he had said, isn't it the children would come, that the just unacceptable is drops execution for couldn't 10000 by the city and children. that is unacceptable. but you're not the, i'm the,

i'm the has to do. you did not started on this event of october. the big question here is, how many pundits demands have been killed since 1948. and what happened before the 7th of october. so we have time, i can describe that, but i think the message, the other thing is we have receiving that isn't it does not belong to. these does not belong to allow of other student students and intuition and nothing else felt in the united nations and kind of the model is showing the annexation of smoke on the list bench. also, guys are the cdn, okay. by the heights. nothing, you know is declaring company do not use the best buy in minnesota to prevent a listing in states. so what is the best solution to plan on violence? is it to continue the environmental guys which has already taken the lives of $29000.00 people? if we include the people on the table or to find a differently outage here,

you haven't got my question, which was how was israel supposed to respond to what happened on october? the 7th, we could get it to the history we will get into the history. but, but what kind of response would you expect israel to have made? i'm didn't how most expected it would be exactly what happened exactly what happened was how much is it as responded with boom, bottom into guts, continuously for the see leaks using on types of s. dikes, the dentist line, 70 percent of all the houses income you know, according to the most recent, is it a point during the 2nd world war? germany has on the 10 percent of the homes and does that and yet many dislike unix all check on what is it? i'm not, does not do anything proportionately vivid thoughts out of this the button that

says what, what would have been proportion, but what would it be that point of view? now what would be proportional just to say to the world enough is enough with this setup of violence. we don't want this to continue. and the end of the patient to, i'm going to conduct the thought and i know that you come killed the patient. if you concentrate on the symptom of that event, the cause of the disease during the thing, you're not saying that's how boss is a was as i said earlier, to provoke israel and to doing exactly what it did, provoked massive military retaliation and then condemn israel for it no, i don't think so. i don't think i must expect to have this kind of an edge. i don't think so. maybe if they knew what, what was what going to happen? maybe they would have to revise the plans. i don't know. i'm not in the mines, but i know that we've been living so 75 years of oppression of the displacement of ethnic lindsay, which effect of 70 percent of the cdn people. i know about 70 percent of the

population of guys that have builds if you use this list by is that are in the 1948 and i don't know what that goes. it has to be on the siege for 17 years with no electricity, no water, no running water. no, no, no equipment, me. 80 percent of the people. what i do kid live unemployed, and 70 percent were on the positive. and what, what did that lead to? i know that's kind of sticking on, signed an agreement. i piece, i agree, mental it is or what they accept it. a very painful compromise. a state of 22 percent on the of the historic palestine. all the united nations said we shouldn't have 44 percent. i'm still isn't and wouldn't accept. i know that nathaniel was needing this one. may have that right. mission. wait, wait, wait. tell me that in december 2000 president clinton, who at excuse me, israel at who would back overdue

a state. on 95 percent of the west bank, a 100 percent of the gaza strip with land swaps to compensate for the sacraments control of arrow barriers of east jerusalem divided sovereignty over the holy sides . provision for the return of many palestinian refugees to the new state. it was even by the reckoning of palestinian company, the data is the best deal that you, what ever offered of yasser arafat turned it down. so you can blame the lots of things, but you have also missed opportunities along the way. this was the largest opportunity that you did miss watson, that you sent them. this is the short what you haven't got this could i know it's a global narrative actually. i know it's not because what's managed uh the negotiations and then is that is that it was not accept listing. and so, but i need to over is to have some that was the main close. why that these

negotiations fins and did not accept by the signal control over the waters. and they dropped on friday and they did not accept exactly that. they would withdraw. that's how i met some though to bite the sign was the one inside the another. there is another side of that and you had a better deal services have you had a better off? no, no, that's good point. i'm just my, my question is, why is it an up to now? does not say to the world. and because you have money and to buy the studios, what are they about? this is the only company in the world which refuses to identify it's about this. nothing now is saying, i mean, we find the most likely him until destroyed. so selected him. nathaniel, the man may have the dimension of his life to can also the potential for the 2 state solution. okay. well the, that, that, that is, that is your narrative. that is the promise. basically a narrative. you have just because you accused me of pushing. israel is narrative,

but that's yours. i want to ask you how important to you is the judge of genocide against israel brought by south africa at the international court of justice. do you do respect that court? absolutely. and i do think that south africa is clinic about getting this piece and it does not go incident that south africa. then i'd have to call out to get the quotes, throws out the south african accusation of genocide. will you accept that or accused the cause of bias? we will not have to learn it by deals by us. you will continue to that are going to mix old, understand what's happening. but if you allow me, when 29000 people buy this thing is out of cuz most of the civilians win 10000 until that an outcome in less than 3 months. i'm doing 75 percent of the of the home says i've destroyed an audio investment this out of this one and most trusted because i've destroyed and the but it was my cheek stopped us now since i'm having

a fishing us out of them by the buyers that are in a good many of them and 100 to 4 i'm going to is that with this like, this is general side. and when, when i send you out and money out of that is that it really does declare in the very beginning of the war that's on palestinians must be evicted. but i'm going to sign on that there's an intention not only post to conduct, it's nick lindsey, but to contact the general side bible, but being the civilian population. israel has rejected the judge on many occasions, and we'll have to wait about several years for the court to give a final decision that may be interesting provisions that there's announces, but it could take a long time will go to the court. then what do you want from the court immediately if you allow me is to saying that it is a mission of genocide and to give it as an add on or just to stop the door or do

you will as well resent the quotes if it doesn't do that? no, no, no, we have to step the we, we haven't been appealing to the less than the criminal court for the mount vista bug. what do you, what kind of society, you talked about all the horrors that of the, the going on and gaza. the destruction, the desk, the injuries, the lack of basic supplies, what, what kind of society could they budge from this war? after all, the physical and psychological damage, especially to children. i can literally have such a 100 even amount of damage and destruction. we have to is one is to make it that isn't for an event or another way is to make it an option. i believe and making it don't know what's on it. yet it might, it was just an idea. the 2nd was what,

but deepens, he built this and we kind of, we built our country, but we cannot be built over the country when we are okay by advisor. and in my opinion, the hotel must see us as equal human beings to that is, it is when the, when the boy was, sorry, i'm sorry to interrupt you when the war ends. you want to see palestinian elections . you set the current crisis, you wrote to show the need for palestinians to have a unit 5 leadership and unified into the national unity government. the majority of published in forces groups agree with this vision. really, they've never been able to agree on anything like it in the past that allowed unity between rival sections, how many promises were made about elections and then broke. and how many publishers about publish the new the t decade after decade? idea of the never happened, was it going to happen now? because we've never been in such

a difficult situation as we are to the and i knew this also been by a student on addition must accept that unity is the only way out of this mess. you know me, i've been, i've looked at, i'll say the constitution between 500 and how much i even redid them between them. and i was, the person who managed to convince them was creating a nation that even if the government in 2007, if that government stayed on, if the board cut it, we would have been now in a different situation. we went fed that in 2021. we were just about to have the democratic connections for the 1st time since 2006 unfortunately. is there any evidence of stucco to prevent the elections? they did not allow elections, enjoy those. and then the kind of thing and also if you use that as an excuse to cancel the elections, which was a big mistake, how do we have elections in 2021, not think about the impact of started without got an absolute majority. we would

have had to have a democratic coalition and then a government control in both west bank and gaza and then on to not just have to have independence, identical commission. you say this without going to but, but you've never showed in the past any of the authority in particular was never sure of much of the way of democratic credentials have. if you look at the flagrant human rights abuses committed by the security services, the torture, they abuse the top down of free speech. they and that's the way the interruption level is rails fault. yes, this was not part of the, the corruption they made them to not, not, it's not isn't as full alone. but it does. lot of really isn't and it falls because it is that i in one of the city and also i need to be on the security card on there . it's, it's in the united states font in particular that if used to allow us to have democratic 3 elections. okay. let's talk about the united states for

a moment. because that view seems to be that any agreement must contain what they call a political horizon for the palestinians and ultimately a palestinian state. do you trust america to insist on that? again, it hasn't been thought of. busy thinking for a very long time has it. unfortunately, the states of america has lost them an opportunity to be a total mediator. and that's going to be the kind of between us and visitor and, and that's why i don't think they kind of flip out to why they are supporting this optimal city against us. and why the out of pocket to see people in the themselves by sending americans so i've got to participate and it's under minutes on the advisors and, and planes it's, it's not, it's not too late. i don't know if i mean, do you have time? you have to be in by shop. in this case, the united states cannot be in boston because it is becoming a thought and completes that egypt support. federal is an issue. and i guess the student, people just about 13 by you don't have a choice here. you don't have

a choice or whatever you would think of the by the administration. a victory by donald trump in november wasn't exactly the hans, the palestinian position would. so you're going to need to work with by now, whether you like it or not to the palestinian groups on the stop that the reason i refused to work was by didn't. it's listed by then who upstairs from doing unfulfilled his duty during the 3 years before the war started, when he continued to say that the post test solution is what we need. but it's not time for that. and wednesday night, the states of america did nothing to for us, is that i have to start building 7 months, which is a united states of america mex. it's the man office to can pull it up, was the ability to state solution. so it's not our problem, it's not a problem, but let me tell you what, what, what happened with that, and guess a union these days is very dangerous for the whole one. why? because the team isn't on the united states,

out of 10 in the world that we don't have international law anymore. and that's what is done by those of younger, you know, what that would mean to other countries in this world. it would mean if you have the problem, you can do whatever you want. well that's it. okay. can you guys look at that closer, closer to hope with you. if you reject violence against civilians you've made that perfectly clear. but if the gentleman by him, i'm not who i've been advocating environments all my life. i understand. but opinion polls in the west bank and gaza show growing approval for violence. what's cool down resistance, just 2 months into the war. 60 percent of palestinians said they'd back a violent struggle up 10 percent from before. the conflict on palestinians tired of fighting, they really want more. i assume you have supported the resistance is through and

then be documented inside of resistance of this time is a big majority of the think that many times it is this does is more effective mainly because it's an outcome the other way, which is the sony go see issues then what's missed that i best of his government, but i didn't go through yet. what is the end for this? have to use signing that also the theme in making us compromises and then get the nothing but human emotion. and as it is violation even of the stigma and also to has depriving good from any also to, to whatsoever inventing all the policies and citizen, those back include the we've talking about the about, guys about also about the west bank, you know, and the west bank the army has, could probably be more than $540.00 people since the beginning of last year. and it goes on and set the packing gusts on said lot about receiving work on sundays and

rarely government. so that's what, i'm, how much does the government be? yes, but the from the other side, whatever israel did, her mouse was committed to its destruction. wasn't that the august 1998 governor made that clear. there's no solution that set for the palestinian question except through jihad initiatives. proposals and international conferences are a waste of time. factors from us never wanted to tool. it only wanted the fights and by all accounts, it still does is not the truth. not exactly because yes, little with such statements before, but i know exactly how from asked states because i met with them and all that negotiated since we had, i even managed to convince them was non violence of the systems for more than 5 youths during which time was that it was peaceful demonstrations. i'm doing that back just to be by there. is there any side? yes. i do you what they can accept? what was included in the national unity program of our national unity government in

2007. and it was clear, i found a simian state on 1967, but that's including these drawers and then i ended up location of that. do you want? i'm just like ition of, of that i to the dental about a student obviously, which is a very just don't the bottom of this if they got it. of course, of course, it's not the 2017. they said there shall be no recognition of the legitimacy of the zionist entity. so again, nothing to discuss the lift meant to do what mr. this must have said. who is the finance minister in israel, and you can say he's not in the government that's in the minnesota and the government. he said he called him says he wasn't ty lamp, but i'm willing himself on the floor. and he said that we, he said the business was from the bank, would settlements on this, so that kind of emails would lose any hope of staples that on. and then they wouldn't have one else. any options either to leave,

which is that from the glazing auto accept a life of subjugation police. that is, which is all part of died or die, which is, which is genocide. this is the minute the all fine the i'm, what you said wasn't able to get that by the time you know, i, i'm, you could sit down and look for any new position that was expressed. i'd say it's hopeless. i hope in a different way. i see the reason of the people on both sides who could die together to find a way out of the situation. but to accept, i may have a principle which has application of international which day is occupation must end as an entity point to piece between both people. how like somebody is not, how likely is a day of that's very low your, your a low voice and the very big will that this onto stability? well i, i just want, i, you know, i've had this question many times,

but i respond to that by asking the question who, who have never thought that the gentleman is unfinished, even with confidence in such a way. and they will be in union after having so many words. i think we have the promise, daniels, lives, jewish people are very much alike. we could build a field trip together together not have them to continue to fight each other. and each of you, you, you wrote, you wrote in may last year that a great number of palestinians believe the only solution left is a single democratic state on the whole of what you quoted started palestine without occupation, a positive or discrimination. in other words, a one state solution where all citizens have equal rights of equal duties. what are the makes you think that something like that is even remotely possible? because in that situation, like we have to them on the land of historic, by this time we have about 7000000 jewish people about 7000000 postings to people

living on the same land. one site is powerful, the other side is weak. one side these i know to buy or the other side, this will to bite what the solution. one of the reasons, the 1st one is to state solution, which is the problem. the 2nd solution is one of the democratic states literally can live together equally and or exist peacefully. the only option is if mcclintic or 1st thing that's exactly what i know i'm smart, but it's all i have to do. and that's what i have to do in guzman, but that will not work. so that's why we have one or 2 options. i had one of the book about 60, why not? and as one of my best friends, daniel button boom, the literally the waiting on the musician taught me once, sometimes then bust him is easy of the difficult. and that's why i will never stop believing that one democratic states couldn't be both of them. i know it looks now

impossible with all these feelings of revenge and vengeance, et cetera. but my duty as a leader is somebody home to people. and i then be picking up the best very briefly cuz we're running out of time just literally what, what if you can't 5, the don't find the solution that you're looking for is october the 7th, it's going to happen again. and i hope not. i don't think violence is the solution to any other violence. i think that the action items, it isn't of the people on smart have to be but would always look for another type of dispatch. and that's what i would continue to 2nd floor so that i would have people eventually we'd be free. a lot of people would be accepted as equals human beings. and we would have all the lights on top of which should be freedom on different stuff in faculty. thanks very much for being a complex. so thank you. thank you. the,

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