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a leader in the private space industry. thank you for being with us today. didn't hear in the voice. so you are aiming to construct in your own private space station by the year 2028 is to say at least it's, i mean it's only for us to go. yes. well, it is realistic. we have the international space station today. it's old. we've had humans out there continuously for over 20 years, so it will come down currently forecasted around 2030. so it's really important for many nations to have the replacement in orbit before the international space station comes down. i do think 2028 is realistic. have you started building, it's already nowhere in the design phase. currently we had a several milestones with nasa recently and we pass those milestones, but we still need to complete our design. and once that's completed then we will start construction. so what would be disciplined issue compared to the i assess

what's up, a couple of things will be different. so for example, the modules on the international space station or 4 meters in diameter. that's large, but not super large because when you put racking another machinery inside the module, it just leaves enough room barely for a human fully out stretch. ours is an 8 meter design module and so much more volume, much more opportunity to, to do research. this is why we call it star lab, much more room for the astronauts to move around. this will also take advantage of modern systems, whether it's carbon scrubbing to take c o 2 out of the environment within uh, within the spacecraft. for solar power or communication protocol from space to earth, it will all be newer systems than what exists on the international space station. that means many more tests possible to, to do in this new style left because that's right. yeah. so microgravity,

which is what you experience when you're and freeform which the space station of course is in continuous freeform is a magic wand. if you will, if you do research in those conditions, you can get perfect crystals, you can get a 3 day national models for protein folding. you can do drug development in ways that you can only do in human models or animal models here on or so. it really is a huge opportunity and we say you go to space to benefit or, and this very much as an example of that. what, what would be the advantages if he can do all these tests? why should we do these tests? you know, because there are a lot of drugs that we, meaning humanity have develop, but we haven't formulated them correctly. formulation is very important for it's advocacy so that it works. formulation is all about modeling. and again, if you do it in microgravity, it is much more effective to do that formulation. and so i think the promise for,

and this is just one example, there are many others. the promise for humanity is that we can develop drugs on the station that we can't develop easily here on earth. and we can have breakthrough drive developments that would save millions of lives theoretically. so can you imagine not just one private space station, several space station and space stations in, in space and i do, i do, i think they'll be specialized. so i think we'll have a station such as ourselves very, very heavily focused on research. i think others will be be very heavily focused on manufacturing. i can imagine a solver nation, maybe one of their own space station as an example. uh so i would imagine by the end of the 20 twenty's, maybe early 20 thirty's, that there should be 2 or 3, maybe 4 of these offerings. why does it have to be privately organized? i mean, would that be most sensible estates, invest, and so on, and you know, it's not private because it's probably for the better books. i understand that argument that the example of the space shuttle in the us is

a good one. so now is to have the space shuttle. unfortunately, there were 2 crashes fatalities without. and it was about a $100000.00 us dollars per half kilo to send and asked or to enter the launch agreement that they wanted to space x and others. now we can re land rocket boosters and the price is now a $1000.00 us dollars per have to around a 100 x reduction. so when you add source, this to the private sector, you get more innovation. presumably it's developed faster and the government benefits because of lower cost, and they can be a customer instead of an owner. and it's a much better model. but you want to make money as well. it of costs. yeah, i mean, money is, is an important part of it, but more important to us as a enterprise. our mission is to excel rates of growth and potential of humanity. so we very much are in it for the power space to transform our civilization in. in our world, i had the pleasure of being in space myself. i've seen the earth from space,

it was a life changing moment for me. and so that's the passion we bring, is we really want to use space as a benefit to all human been involved was said when you went in space and, and put a ton has a bit more please. well, it is a life changing moment and it's been said before, i think there have been about 620 people have in this space universally, whether it's american and russian or, you know, atheist christian, it doesn't matter. male female, everyone has this overview effect is we call it and it's tremendously powerful and you see the, or if it's been said, there is no borders. you realize we all live in the same house, literally and figuratively. there is no other place. there's only here. and outside this miracle ever, if you have a cold hospital, dark and lifeless black space, and so you really learn to treasure what we have here and value what it is that we have to preserve here. do you think it's really easy to get pods, photos,

that's future style and left off in space. yes. because we now have re usable, inexpensive, reliable launch. we're watching rockets, the space. we mean humanity. roughly every 3 and a half days. right now. that's on heard of last year we sent 2400 satellites to space. that's a satellite launched every 3 hours on average. that's amazing. so the elevator, so to speak, has been built. now we need to put the applications in the destination and space, but kind of get a bit crowded in space. i mean, it can. so we do have a space debris issue. and here in davos the aerospace and a group of which on the part in boys years apart is very focused on sustainability of space and space. debris, we've worked on what's called a space sustained a building index, so that we can advise on whether satellites are sustainable or not. but it is an issue and we need to take it very seriously. what does it mean?

sustainable is that it comes back, for example. yes, there's a way to make sure that the satellites or whatever, whatever is in orbit doesn't become junk. and either needs to be de orbited or fixed or repaired one of the above. but it can't just be junk floating around. just give me an idea of a little piece of metal about the size of a screw in orbit is about a 100 pounds. uh 20 and whatever it is. 40 kilos of t and t dynamite. because it's going, it's such an amazing speed, 25000 kilometers per hour. so that force is equivalent to a 100 pounds of t and t. so who are you talking to within a 2 to avoid these kind of problems in the future? well, there are commercial companies and also governments that are analyzing all the debris up there. that's one issue is knowing where it is. the 2nd is to help has the algorithms to know what's likely to collide that's called

a conjunction. and the 3rd is, if you know what the debris is and what's gonna happen, what do i do? do i go up down sideways? so those are the things that are being built out by governments and private industry. so we're getting there. but we still have some work to do. can you describe to us as the different stages of feeding style that because obviously in the future you also need us to know it's for example, yes indeed. so you have a very focused system requirement review. that's where you're going through all the requirements and making sure that what you're designing needs the customer's demands. then you have the design phase where you're actually designing and optimizing that designed to meet the requirements. the 3rd step is you move in to actually making the space station. the module is the largest piece. that's the 8 meter that a designer was telling you about. our partner on that is there a bus that module will likely be manufactured in europe? are about air bus is a very important partner to this project. we're very proud to have them on our team

and they are one of our joint venture partners with starlight corporation. so this is much a european space station as it is an american space station. if you look into the past, then we had to kind of space race between the us and to russia, obviously, could it be from your point of view that in the future the space space between the us and china fort sumter, because of course other nations are trying to be the own space stations, property and so on. we don't know yet what's coming then. i think we're already in a space where his us in china, the way i explain it is there are many countries that gravitate towards the international space station model. and there are other countries that are gravitating towards the chinese model. so think of it as apple, an android. right? they're compatible, they're operating in the same sphere if you will, but they're as their independent platforms. and so i think that's where we are. and

increasingly, that will be the case in countries we'll have to pick uh, didn't want to be part of the android system or the apple system. and how much money do you need to finance this whole project? we're not commenting on the exact numbers, but it's a much, much, much, much less expensive than main or international space station. so orders of magnitude cheaper. and that's because we're taking advantage of new technologies. it's a commercial endeavor. so we can move, you know, a bit more entrepreneur really then perhaps the government can. so it will be expensive, but it won't be nearly as expensive as other stations, the mirror stations that rush it down. the chinese patients space station that they built for the international space station. how can you make sure that that's what it is, stephen often in the future style, it is not dangerous for men time, for example, you know, how do you control this? yeah, it's a very, very important problem that we take very seriously, but that's part of the requirements. that's part of a design phase. you need the ability to maneuver the station. you need the ability,

having forbid, if there's a crew of emergency to get that crew back down to earth safely. so all those things are being designed into your one set that it's necessary to democratize that going up into space. well, people should be able to go up into space, buys, why? so sent messages. it's such a gift. imagine if i could give you a magic so that you take it, it transforms your life, it transforms the way you see the world. it really is face, it really is that magic drug. it doesn't scale very well. right? sending millions of people the spaces is a fantasy right now, but the goal would be imagine building star lab. imagine you having a un security council meeting on star lab or g 20 meeting on star lab. i think if you were, we would have a different outcome if they were meeting up there instead of it here in the house. but at the moment, one has a feeling going up into space. it's like a rich men skate. what do you say to this argument?

i agree with that argument, and that's why i had sounded a nonprofit space for humanity. and we, the mission is to send every day people to space in return for doing something for earth. and we've now sent for people the space all female free of charge, free of charge. but in return they have to do something tied to the un sustainable development goals, benefiting or so they they, it's not for you. but uh, so the 1st mexican born female katya has when her initiatives around stem education . and so she's meeting with the mexican president, regular ways are forming a center for stem education for young women and mexico. so that's an example we set the 1st african born female to space and egyptian national. she's looking to democratize access to space in the air of world. so these, these are the examples. so when you think about space, it's your, do you only look positively at space and things as so many opportunities?

or do you see also publish? i'm an optimist. so i mostly see a positive things. it is an issue in the us as a space for us. now. china has the equivalent of that. so i do worry about the militarization of space, but there's so much hope it's so much potential for space, depending fit lifeline or. and then i'd like to focus on the positive. if you talk about your dream, what would you love to get developed in space on your future stomach? well, i see lower for the as the lily pad for humanity to move deeper into space. so imagine a commercial sector with many star labs, all collaborating, a village, if you will, in low earth orbit. and that enables us perhaps to go to the moon and live and work on the moon. and then that for house enables that enables us to go even further and deeper into space. so that's my vision is that we're taking these baby steps where like the 1st fish who flopped onto the beach and became mammals in a way,

way back when i i see that is kind of where we are and around pollution, right. thank you very much. thank you. the business data, vineyards, africa coming up on the program. the process involved to look for the confidence. that's where the i m f predicts, buddy nights, area for example, prizes of food and i have a basic needs of skyrocket that's making the cost of living for many unbearable and even gonna people. i also feeling that you cannot make pains with some communities trying to stay afloat by reading for use in communal money boxes. plus, we visit survivors of the massive via of the hijacked building and johan is big. yeah, now he makes if cell to which they say is.